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2017-04-14 08:41:48 PM  
It is an honest trailer...
 
2017-04-14 09:07:27 PM  
I watched Rouge One for the second time last night

/My reaction was the same as the first time
//To summarize; "Seriously?"
///And CGI Leia was just downright creepy
 
2017-04-14 09:33:25 PM  
It was better than Force Awakens, but I never heard anyone comparing it to Empire.  Meh.

//my childhood was slutty.
 
2017-04-15 12:43:00 AM  
I enjoyed watching it. That's about all I care to get out of a movie, usually.
 
2017-04-15 01:54:29 AM  
It wasn't too bad I guess.  Magnificent Seven: Star Wars Edition was definitely better than the prequels.
 
2017-04-15 02:00:26 AM  
Cute video, I chuckled a bit. Didn't make me like Rogue One any less. I'm glad we're at a point in our culture where writers allow us to become attached to characters, and they can die. Sometimes those deaths are heroic, and sometimes they are kind of needless. Just like in the real farking world. It doesn't have to make sense, because life doesn't always make sense.

Feel free to hate on Rogue One, but that's like your opinion, man. Go back 3 decades and the loss of a major hero character was a major break from tradition, unless it was done ala Christ as a selfless act to save the rest of the group. Now we get George R. R. Martin rolling 1d12 to see if a main character will survive his saving throw, so even he appears to not know who will love or die as he writes.
 
2017-04-15 02:00:47 AM  

Relatively Obscure: I enjoyed watching it. That's about all I care to get out of a movie, usually.


Somehow I doubt the movie will top that trailer treatment, like TFA honest trailer beat the movie, but I'll find  It soon enough.
 
2017-04-15 02:51:12 AM  

roostercube: Cute video, I chuckled a bit. Didn't make me like Rogue One any less. I'm glad we're at a point in our culture where writers allow us to become attached to characters, and they can die. Sometimes those deaths are heroic, and sometimes they are kind of needless. Just like in the real farking world. It doesn't have to make sense, because life doesn't always make sense.

Feel free to hate on Rogue One, but that's like your opinion, man. Go back 3 decades and the loss of a major hero character was a major break from tradition, unless it was done ala Christ as a selfless act to save the rest of the group. Now we get George R. R. Martin rolling 1d12 to see if a main character will survive his saving throw, so even he appears to not know who will love or die as he writes.


1d12 for saving throws these days? Or does he handicap the lower level characters that much? (Haven't read the books or watched the TV show, been driving over the road for seven years with no TV or streaming video internet)
 
2017-04-15 03:16:10 AM  
Blue milk!  Cool!
 
2017-04-15 03:27:27 AM  
Yep, I liked the movie, and this trailer was indeed honest and funny.  That being said I liked the film for more than just plot hole fills and back story exposition.  It was pure OG Star Wars with old school SW ships, uniforms and those dark, cold yet somehow comforting Imperial hallways.

Hell, seeing filthy, bored storm troopers on a prisoner transport was almost worth the ticket price.  Pure old school SW eye porn.
 
2017-04-15 03:39:07 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: It was better than Force Awakens, but I never heard anyone comparing it to Empire.  Meh.

//my childhood was slutty.


Most comments like that in the Honest Trailer series are responding to the things people wrote when requesting the video.
 
2017-04-15 04:54:12 AM  
Movie was a complete disappointment.  Where were all the Bothans that were supposed to die to bring them the plans?
 
2017-04-15 04:54:54 AM  
The new films are all good so far but I don't see any of them ever being transformative childhood experiences like the original trilogy was.

In Rogue One KSO-2 was worth the price of the ticket. Alan Tudyk needs to be in more films.
 
2017-04-15 04:56:33 AM  

Mississippi Mud: Movie was a complete disappointment.  Where were all the Bothans that were supposed to die to bring them the plans?


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THAT WAS RETURN OF THE JEDI!!!
 
2017-04-15 05:07:23 AM  
The problem with Star Wars is that the OT is much beloved, and the property is still highly valued. So, at this point, Disney don't want to risk anything with it. They paid billions. They aren't going to get Darren Aronofsky to make a Star Wars movie with handheld cameras. And at the same time, fan expectation is huge. Everyone wants to have the same feels they did the first time they saw the OT. But without being radical with it, that's not going to happen.

Look at the roots of Star Wars. Flash Gordon is basically about Yellow Peril. It tapped into fears about people in China and Japan. Star Wars both descends from that and also clearly taps into a general sense of threats from Nazis and Communists. Death stars and the Emperor exist in Star Wars movies today because they've always existed in Star Wars movies, but its not got any real world parallel.

Best thing that can happen to Star Wars is that a couple of movies tank really hard, so that the value decreases and the producers take some risks.
 
2017-04-15 07:09:48 AM  

roostercube: Cute video, I chuckled a bit. Didn't make me like Rogue One any less. I'm glad we're at a point in our culture where writers allow us to become attached to characters, and they can die. Sometimes those deaths are heroic, and sometimes they are kind of needless. Just like in the real farking world. It doesn't have to make sense, because life doesn't always make sense.

Feel free to hate on Rogue One, but that's like your opinion, man. Go back 3 decades and the loss of a major hero character was a major break from tradition, unless it was done ala Christ as a selfless act to save the rest of the group. Now we get George R. R. Martin rolling 1d12 to see if a main character will survive his saving throw, so even he appears to not know who will love or die as he writes.


All this.
 
2017-04-15 08:19:32 AM  
I saw Rouge One on New Years Eve while on magic-type Mushrooms.

I left the theater thinking it was the best Star Wars movie I had ever seen.
I'm kindof afraid to watch it again since my impression of it was so amazing and may have been enhanced by the fungus.
Wife loved it just as much though, and she was the sober driver.
 
2017-04-15 09:01:31 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I watched Rouge One for the second time last night

/My reaction was the same as the first time
//To summarize; "Seriously?"
///And CGI Leia was just downright creepy


Like what you like of course.

I really don't get this sentiment. The CGI for both her and tarkin looked great to me. Is this an "uncanny valley" thing? I've never looked at cgi as creepy...
 
2017-04-15 09:02:30 AM  
Oh and the dude from Bloodline was ROCKIN that cape.
 
2017-04-15 09:11:30 AM  
Al right, I'll watch the movie.. one of these days, soon.
 
2017-04-15 09:18:08 AM  
Meh, I saw it in the theaters and actually liked it more than I thought I would.
 
2017-04-15 09:21:27 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: It was better than Force Awakens, but I never heard anyone comparing it to Empire.  Meh.

//my childhood was slutty.


The last time I loved a Star Wars movie as much as I loved Rogue One, it was 1977.
 
2017-04-15 09:33:43 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I watched Rouge One for the second time last night

/My reaction was the same as the first time
//To summarize; "Seriously?"
///And CGI Leia was just downright creepy

Like what you like of course.

I really don't get this sentiment. The CGI for both her and tarkin looked great to me. Is this an "uncanny valley" thing? I've never looked at cgi as creepy...


Yeah, those never bothered me. Vader's voice though...
 
2017-04-15 09:37:03 AM  
I didn't really like Rogue One. Outside of K2S-O, the rest of the characters were uninteresting and forgettable. Forrest Whittaker's weird, raspy whisper affectation was off putting and how the actual fark do you waste Mads Mikkelsen?

I grew up with Star Wars. Had the toys, bed sheets, and all those books that came with accompanying audio cassettes. I should have been in the prime demographic to absolutely love this movie. Sadly, no.

/"I am one with the Force, the Force is with me"? Seriously? fark you, not-BD-Wong.
//"Shooty McShooterGuy"
///Where the fark were all the Bothans?
 
2017-04-15 09:42:16 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I watched Rouge One for the second time last night

/My reaction was the same as the first time
//To summarize; "Seriously?"
///And CGI Leia was just downright creepy


What exactly do you mean by "seriously"?

That could be literally anything.
 
2017-04-15 10:25:06 AM  

roostercube: Cute video, I chuckled a bit. Didn't make me like Rogue One any less. I'm glad we're at a point in our culture where writers allow us to become attached to characters, and they can die. Sometimes those deaths are heroic, and sometimes they are kind of needless. Just like in the real farking world. It doesn't have to make sense, because life doesn't always make sense.

Feel free to hate on Rogue One, but that's like your opinion, man. Go back 3 decades and the loss of a major hero character was a major break from tradition, unless it was done ala Christ as a selfless act to save the rest of the group. Now we get George R. R. Martin rolling 1d12 to see if a main character will survive his saving throw, so even he appears to not know who will love or die as he writes.


RIP, Kid Dinosaur.

/Hopefully not obscure...
 
2017-04-15 10:25:52 AM  

Caelistis: ///Where the fark were all the Bothans?


That's the Second Death Star.
 
2017-04-15 10:50:56 AM  

Caelistis: Where the fark were all the Bothans?


You may have grown up with Star Wars toys, but apparently you never bothered to watch the movies.
 
2017-04-15 11:14:01 AM  

Snapper Carr: Mississippi Mud: Movie was a complete disappointment.  Where were all the Bothans that were supposed to die to bring them the plans?

[i.imgur.com image 640x480]

THAT WAS RETURN OF THE JEDI!!!


You Trekkies take this stuff too seriously.
 
2017-04-15 11:41:44 AM  

Caelistis: I didn't really like Rogue One. Outside of K2S-O, the rest of the characters were uninteresting and forgettable. Forrest Whittaker's weird, raspy whisper affectation was off putting and how the actual fark do you waste Mads Mikkelsen?

I grew up with Star Wars. Had the toys, bed sheets, and all those books that came with accompanying audio cassettes. I should have been in the prime demographic to absolutely love this movie. Sadly, no.

/"I am one with the Force, the Force is with me"? Seriously? fark you, not-BD-Wong.
//"Shooty McShooterGuy"
///Where the fark were all the Bothans?


Bothans?

Tell us again about how you are a "fan."
 
2017-04-15 11:56:37 AM  
Everyone asking or complaining about Bothans is joking.

Hope that helps.
 
2017-04-15 12:00:21 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I watched Rouge One for the second time last night

/My reaction was the same as the first time
//To summarize; "Seriously?"
///And CGI Leia was just downright creepy

Like what you like of course.

I really don't get this sentiment. The CGI for both her and tarkin looked great to me. Is this an "uncanny valley" thing? I've never looked at cgi as creepy...


I thought the CGI for Tarkin was ok but Leia looked creepy as hell. They can never get the eyes or the mouth right.
 
2017-04-15 12:11:45 PM  
The only thing I would change about Rogue One is that stupid joke that Darth Vader delivers.  That was dumb and should never have been there.  But the rest of the movie was awesome.  A touch too heavy on the comedy at times, but it was nice to see that there was a dark side to fighting for the Rebellion, and to see that people were dying to stand against the Empire as well.

And yeah, the Darth Vader scene at the end was a great way to show why the Rebels were afraid of him at the beginning of Episode 4.

/I enjoyed the movie
//it actually makes me give Episode 8 a meh for caring because I know it won't have that kind of storyline
 
2017-04-15 12:14:16 PM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: The only thing I would change about Rogue One is that stupid joke that Darth Vader delivers.


It was a forced joke.

/runs
 
2017-04-15 12:17:55 PM  

skyotter: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: The only thing I would change about Rogue One is that stupid joke that Darth Vader delivers.

It was a forced joke.

/runs


It was a forced dad joke.
 
2017-04-15 12:25:32 PM  

roostercube: Go back 3 decades and the loss of a major hero character was a major break from tradition, unless it was done ala Christ as a selfless act to save the rest of the group.


Um... Rogue One is a riff on The Dirty Dozen (which was released in 1967) as was Suicide Squad.  People have been remaking that film over and over ever since, which I have no objection to because it's a farking awesome movie, to the point that it's essentially its own little subgenre by now.  Everyone (or almost everyone) dying by the end is one of the defining elements of the formula.

Frankly, I think you're also massively over-estimating how bloodless 80s - 90s cinema was, probably because you were young enough to either not be exposed to the more violent films or to overlook some of the nastier bits.  Braveheart and Saving Private Ryan basically kill off the heroes of the film because the antagonists feel like it, for instance (1990s) and the 80s had Platoon and Full Metal Jacket, both much more cynical about it than Rogue One is.

Essentially, characters in self-contained films have always been allowed to die, and in war movies they've always been more or less expected to die.  Rogue One didn't invent this and neither did Game of Thrones, the only characters with contractual immortality are ones with a franchise.  There's not really a "reaching the point of" here, the only thing that's changed is what kinds of movies you watch.
 
2017-04-15 01:09:20 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I watched Rouge One for the second time last night

/My reaction was the same as the first time
//To summarize; "Seriously?"
///And CGI Leia was just downright creepy



Rogue, god dammit.

/her nose is too long
 
2017-04-15 01:20:15 PM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: The only thing I would change about Rogue One is that stupid joke that Darth Vader delivers.  That was dumb and should never have been there.


So you... also hated the original trilogy?

Apology Accepted
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Also:
"So you think you're being treated... unfairly?"
"All too easy."
"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

Dropping stupid/sarcastic one-liners while everyone around him had to take him seriously due to the threat of murder was like 50% of why the character was terrifying.  The actor in the suit reinforced this with the body language, Darth Vader is the only villain to ever look like he's boredly half-assing an office job while lifting a prisoner by the throat (without the Force).

This is a lot of what caused the audience to sit up and take notice when something actually caused him to be serious enough to shut up (the first duel with Luke, when he's losing the plans and realizing that this is a real threat and not a waste of his time in Rogue One) or try to be sincere instead of hammy (the encounter with Luke on the second Death Star).  It's probably the best acting ever done in cinema history with the handicap of the face not being visible, dude's wrapped up like the farking Michelin Man and yet his emotional state is almost always pretty clear.

The first duel with Luke probably derives the most impact from this-- when the guy who couldn't shut up and take killing his former master in a duel to the death seriously goes silent and simply pulls his lightsaber, the audience knows shiat is going down even before it becomes clear that he's not so much wielding a lightsaber as the entire farking set this time.
 
2017-04-15 02:52:32 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I watched Rouge One for the second time last night

/My reaction was the same as the first time
//To summarize; "Seriously?"
///And CGI Leia was just downright creepy

Like what you like of course.

I really don't get this sentiment. The CGI for both her and tarkin looked great to me. Is this an "uncanny valley" thing? I've never looked at cgi as creepy...


I thought Tarkin was much better than Leia, myself. And after Avatar I guess I was expecting some sort of advancement in the process, So yeah, the uv thing may be a part of it, but her face looked very CG to me

/I don't hate the movie by any stretch
//It has a definite non-Lucas feel to it, and I'd noticed many of the details pointed out in this video that seemed a little incongruous, but that's not all that surprising when you're trying to backfill a storyline
///I'll certainly be adding it to my collection,
 
2017-04-15 03:43:56 PM  
When episode 8 comes out, you guys will turn on Rogue One too. Happens with every Star Wars movie.  It was marginally better than TFA,    which was somewhat better than the prequels.
 
2017-04-15 03:48:44 PM  

Omis: When episode 8 comes out, you guys will turn on Rogue One too. Happens with every Star Wars movie.  It was marginally better than TFA,    which was somewhat better than the prequels.


Well at least they're going in the right direction.
 
2017-04-15 04:52:26 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: It was better than Force Awakens, but I never heard anyone comparing it to Empire.  Meh.

//my childhood was slutty.


I'll be that guy:  Rogue One was the best Star Wars movie I've seen since Empire.
 
2017-04-15 04:55:08 PM  

skyotter: Everyone asking or complaining about Bothans is joking.

Hope that helps.


I screwed up the Bothans thing for a while in my own memory.

Then everyone laughed about how I wasn't a real fan of Star Wars, I got fired from my job, evicted, and I was forced to live inside of a crack in an old drive-in theater and fight cats for my food.
 
2017-04-15 05:11:53 PM  

mooseyfate: Ow! That was my feelings!: It was better than Force Awakens, but I never heard anyone comparing it to Empire.  Meh.

//my childhood was slutty.

I'll be that guy:  Rogue One was the best Star Wars movie I've seen since Empire.


Well, saying it was the best since Empire is not the same as comparing it favorably or equating it to Empire. Which is how I took it.
 
2017-04-15 05:52:28 PM  

HighOnCraic: RIP, Kid Dinosaur.

/Hopefully not obscure...


Not to me. I read a couple more of those books, but that was the beginning of the end. Too much Grimdark.
 
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2017-04-15 08:38:23 PM  
Just watched it again tonight. Saw it twice in a theater.  I agree with it is in top 3.  For me, I saw Star Wars first when I was around 7.  It came out in May, but the little theater in town didn't get it until late fall/early winter.   It had a huge impression on me and will likely always be my favorite.  Empire came out when I was 9, and the ending blew away my young mind. It wasn't until I was an adult that I really felt it was the better movie, but nostalgia for A New Hope wins out keeping it at the top for me. Rogue One easily pushed RotJ and TFA down a spot on the list.
 
2017-04-15 08:39:50 PM  

Relatively Obscure: skyotter: Everyone asking or complaining about Bothans is joking.

Hope that helps.

I screwed up the Bothans thing for a while in my own memory.

Then everyone laughed about how I wasn't a real fan of Star Wars, I got fired from my job, evicted, and I was forced to live inside of a crack in an old drive-in theater and fight cats for my food.


You lived in a crack? Luxury! After I wrongly stated that Boba Fett first appeared in Empire, and forgot that it was actually in the Holiday Special, I was cast out into the desert. I survived on the water from a cactus, and boy did that make me sick. I was then enslaved by nomads and only bought my freedom by rigging the 2016 election.
 
2017-04-15 09:21:28 PM  

JammerJim: HighOnCraic: RIP, Kid Dinosaur.

/Hopefully not obscure...

Not to me. I read a couple more of those books, but that was the beginning of the end. Too much Grimdark.


Still, I'd love to see HBO do a Wildcards TV series.

/Or Cinemax...
//Giggity!
 
2017-04-16 05:48:48 AM  
I haven't seen Rogue One yet, seen some hints of this Vader scene.

I had the original novelization of Star Wars, and it included a number of scenes that were cut from the original movie, though several were added back in for the Special Edition.

It mentioned that when Princess Leia was arrested, she spit on Vader, and the spit sizzled on Vader's still-hot battle armor.  So even back then, it was implied that Vader had just seen some heavy action.
 
2017-04-16 06:37:36 AM  
If you didn't enjoy the battle of Scariff then you have no capacity for childlike glee.
 
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