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(Chicago Sun-Times)   After beating up and removing a doctor from a flight, United decides to let his luggage fly comfortably to Kentucky without him   ( chicago.suntimes.com) divider line
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2017-04-14 04:39:19 PM  
I'd wager they searched all through it looking for ANYTHING that could discredit the man.........
 
2017-04-14 04:58:27 PM  
Hell hath no fury like an airline scorned.
 
2017-04-14 05:33:06 PM  
He lives in Kentucky? Okay so I was wrong... Maybe he did need a little sense beaten into him.

/Texas.
//Probably similarly need my own minor beating on next flight.
 
2017-04-14 07:12:03 PM  
That don't sound like good security practice.
 
2017-04-14 07:47:56 PM  
I know he's a doctor so he prob has a fairly comfortable paycheck. But this guy is about to become so stinking rich.
 
2017-04-14 07:48:02 PM  
If he did get off the flight willingly, would his luggage have went off without him anyway? If yes, then that would be incompetence, if no then this is UA's spite against their customer.
 
2017-04-14 07:48:49 PM  
Unlike him, his baggage was compliant.
 
2017-04-14 07:50:53 PM  
Well, the doctor certainly doesn't need his toothbrush anymore.
 
2017-04-14 07:55:03 PM  
"OK, we've offered $800 to anyone willing to disembark right now.  We only need one.  How about $1000?  $1200?  $1500?  $2000?"

I doubt they'd have had to go much higher.  Someone is going to take it.  Problem solved. Also just a hair cheaper than reimbursing every single passenger of the flight.

I guess what it has in capitalism, it lacks in jack-booted thuggery.
 
2017-04-14 07:56:29 PM  

JesterJoker55: I know he's a doctor so he prob has a fairly comfortable paycheck. But this guy is about to become so stinking rich.


Well, I think he's a family practice physician, right?  That's the lowest paid type of doctor.  Granted, he'll still be making six figures, but the first figure is a 1 or a 2.
 
2017-04-14 07:58:02 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: If he did get off the flight willingly, would his luggage have went off without him anyway? If yes, then that would be incompetence, if no then this is UA's spite against their customer.


They are not about to unload all the luggage to look for his bag either way.  If he only had a carry-on bag that is different.
 
2017-04-14 08:01:23 PM  
Good lord, he lost 2 teeth because of this as well?!  We may just see the first person who win his own 737 and crew for life, complete with maintenance, catering, unlimited trips, and paid hotel anywhere in the world for life.
 
2017-04-14 08:02:27 PM  

Cuyose: Good lord, he lost 2 teeth because of this as well?!  We may just see the first person who win his own 737 and crew for life, complete with maintenance, catering, unlimited trips, and paid hotel anywhere in the world for life.


I want to go to law school just to take this case and win it so easily I become an icon as the first lawyer ever to get a client an entire airline.

The. entire. airline.
 
2017-04-14 08:06:22 PM  
Let's just hope the airline can recoup their expenses. United creates a lot more jobs than some Chinese doctor.
 
2017-04-14 08:07:49 PM  

Cuyose: Good lord, he lost 2 teeth because of this as well?!  We may just see the first person who win his own 737 and crew for life, complete with maintenance, catering, unlimited trips, and paid hotel anywhere in the world for life.


But look on the plus side - United opted to waive the customary additional charge for performing in-flight dentistry.
 
2017-04-14 08:08:09 PM  
insult to injury.......
 
2017-04-14 08:10:32 PM  

Moniker o' Shame: DarkSoulNoHope: If he did get off the flight willingly, would his luggage have went off without him anyway? If yes, then that would be incompetence, if no then this is UA's spite against their customer.

They are not about to unload all the luggage to look for his bag either way.  If he only had a carry-on bag that is different.


I guarantee you that they know exactly where his luggage is.

Since the Lockerbie and Air India bombings in the early 80s, they will remove the luggage of a passenger that has checked-in, but didn't board the plane.

If they didn't, in this case it's either out of spite, or gross negligence.
 
2017-04-14 08:10:50 PM  
Doesn't this just prove that he was treated as a normal customer?
 
2017-04-14 08:11:17 PM  
I'm an American dammnit.  I've never met a problem I couldn't shoot in the face.  Did this guy even try to shoot his problems in the face?  Probably not.
 
2017-04-14 08:12:26 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: Cuyose: Good lord, he lost 2 teeth because of this as well?!  We may just see the first person who win his own 737 and crew for life, complete with maintenance, catering, unlimited trips, and paid hotel anywhere in the world for life.

But look on the plus side - United opted to waive the customary additional charge for performing in-flight dentistry.


They were loose to begin with!  I'm actually flying United next week for vacation booked long ago. It will be interesting to see if enough time has gone by to implement the "be so stupid nice it hurts" directive from leadership.

This seems to be one of those cases where he might actually want to settle.  A jury is going to award such stupid high damages, the judge for sure will have to step in and set aside some of it. I would think its a toss up over what amount in the end would be higher with less BS procedure.
 
2017-04-14 08:12:26 PM  
Well, duh! Part of the problem was that he knew his luggage was going to be sent to his destination without him. He's not a moron. He's not a United employee. He's not a cop who thinks it's okay to beat the shiat out of somebody for no good reason.

Any sky waitress or cop involved in this situation should be fired, and banned for life from any job that gives them ANY power over anybody else.
 
2017-04-14 08:14:56 PM  
He bought his ticket, he got beat-up, i say let him lose his luggage
 
2017-04-14 08:15:18 PM  
They didn't just "bloody" him, they knocked him unconscious, gave him a moderate concussion, broke his nose, and knocked out his front teeth. He will require several rounds of reconstructive surgery. And they lost his luggage, which to be fair, they do for everyone.
 
2017-04-14 08:16:31 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: JesterJoker55: I know he's a doctor so he prob has a fairly comfortable paycheck. But this guy is about to become so stinking rich.

Well, I think he's a family practice physician, right?  That's the lowest paid type of doctor.  Granted, he'll still be making six figures, but the first figure is a 1 or a 2.


His wife is also a doctor along with 4 of his kids. United picked the wrong victim.
 
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2017-04-14 08:18:10 PM  
Please tell me he didn't check a guitar.
 
2017-04-14 08:30:55 PM  

Flab: Moniker o' Shame: DarkSoulNoHope: If he did get off the flight willingly, would his luggage have went off without him anyway? If yes, then that would be incompetence, if no then this is UA's spite against their customer.

They are not about to unload all the luggage to look for his bag either way.  If he only had a carry-on bag that is different.

I guarantee you that they know exactly where his luggage is.

Since the Lockerbie and Air India bombings in the early 80s, they will remove the luggage of a passenger that has checked-in, but didn't board the plane.

If they didn't, in this case it's either out of spite, or gross negligence.


Only for international flights, and not always.
 
2017-04-14 08:31:39 PM  
United let his luggage fly comfortably to Kentucky without him, only to be smashed to pieces and the remains left on the carousel for the airport's indigenous.
 
2017-04-14 08:32:08 PM  

KarmicDisaster: They didn't just "bloody" him, they knocked him unconscious, gave him a moderate concussion, broke his nose, and knocked out his front teeth. He will require several rounds of reconstructive surgery. And they lost his luggage, which to be fair, they do for everyone.



This is Chicago, so he is lucky they didn't take him to a safe house and torture him for a few days until he confessed.
 
2017-04-14 08:37:11 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: KarmicDisaster: They didn't just "bloody" him, they knocked him unconscious, gave him a moderate concussion, broke his nose, and knocked out his front teeth. He will require several rounds of reconstructive surgery. And they lost his luggage, which to be fair, they do for everyone.


This is Chicago, so he is lucky they didn't take him to a safe house and torture him for a few days until he confessed.


Fark really needs a "Sad but True" button.
 
2017-04-14 08:38:28 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: KarmicDisaster: They didn't just "bloody" him, they knocked him unconscious, gave him a moderate concussion, broke his nose, and knocked out his front teeth. He will require several rounds of reconstructive surgery. And they lost his luggage, which to be fair, they do for everyone.


This is Chicago, so he is lucky they didn't take him to a safe house and torture him for a few days until he confessed.


And livecast it on Facebook.
 
2017-04-14 08:41:42 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: JesterJoker55: I know he's a doctor so he prob has a fairly comfortable paycheck. But this guy is about to become so stinking rich.

Well, I think he's a family practice physician, right?  That's the lowest paid type of doctor.  Granted, he'll still be making six figures, but the first figure is a 1 or a 2.


He is a pulmonary specialist, most certainly not the lowest paid type of doctors.
 
2017-04-14 08:57:41 PM  
Airlines are notorious for *losing* luggage all the time.

/nothing to see here
//no excuses, though
///hope it turns out in better condition than him.
 
2017-04-14 08:58:50 PM  

kingflower: In situations like this, heads need to roll.  The CEO gets paid to protect the brand, maximize shareholder value, and answer to the Board of Directors.  Seems like the CEO should fall on his sword and prepare to jump out of the airplane with his custom fitted golden parachute.


Why? What would that do for anyone?
The CEO is meaningless. They're useless, just there as decoration. They do nothing, they're worth even less.

Fire the entire board, and every VP of every division. That will get some attention, and cause some change.
Doing less than that is the same as doing nothing at all.
 
2017-04-14 08:59:41 PM  

KarmicDisaster: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: KarmicDisaster: They didn't just "bloody" him, they knocked him unconscious, gave him a moderate concussion, broke his nose, and knocked out his front teeth. He will require several rounds of reconstructive surgery. And they lost his luggage, which to be fair, they do for everyone.


This is Chicago, so he is lucky they didn't take him to a safe house and torture him for a few days until he confessed.

And livecast it on Facebook.


Well that was fine upstanding citizens.... Twice.

But what the original poster was talking about was actually a police "black site" where they would interrogate suspects without having them on file anywhere so family or even lawyers cannot find them.
 
2017-04-14 09:03:56 PM  

phrawgh: Let's just hope the airline can recoup their expenses. United creates a lot more jobs than some Chinese doctor.


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2017-04-14 09:08:10 PM  
 
2017-04-14 09:11:50 PM  
On an international flight if you don't show up they have to take your checked bags off the plane.  On a domestic flight they don't have to.  If you get kicked off the flight they don't have to take your bags off because you intended to fly.
I doubt the doctor knew his bags would stay on the plane because people commenting here don't know the rule either.  He just didn't want to get off the plane.  I understand that, but evidently the doctor didn't realize his getting off the plane was not up to him- he had the option of walking off or getting dragged off and he chose getting dragged.  I feel sorry for his injuries but I don't feel sorry for him.
/ He will likely get a large settlement but if I was on the jury I'd only award him medical expenses.
 
2017-04-14 09:13:39 PM  

Albert911emt: Well, the doctor certainly doesn't need his toothbrush anymore.


Perhaps he would have fared better if he had a companion.
 
2017-04-14 09:25:12 PM  

phrawgh: Albert911emt: Well, the doctor certainly doesn't need his toothbrush anymore.

Perhaps he would have fared better if he had a companion.


"The Lodger"  His companion was stuck in the TARDIS and he went to investigate what was going on upstairs with Craig's toothbrush.
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2017-04-14 09:31:15 PM  
Still waiting for him to be charged with Interfering with a Flight Crew.
 
2017-04-14 09:35:59 PM  
I thought it was the policy of all airlines that luggage does not go without the traveler?
 
2017-04-14 09:39:19 PM  

Literally Addicted: I thought it was the policy of all airlines that luggage does not go without the traveler?


That is probably their goal, but I think you did not intend to write what your wrote.
 
2017-04-14 09:40:16 PM  
 
2017-04-14 09:52:50 PM  

kingflower: In situations like this, heads need to roll.  The CEO gets paid to protect the brand, maximize shareholder value, and answer to the Board of Directors.  Seems like the CEO should fall on his sword and prepare to jump out of the airplane with his custom fitted golden parachute.


If they did that with a real golden parachute I would be satisfied.
 
2017-04-14 09:54:02 PM  

Moniker o' Shame: Literally Addicted: I thought it was the policy of all airlines that luggage does not go without the traveler?

That is probably their goal, but I think you did not intend to write what your wrote.


?  Your sentence syntax doesn't make sense to me.
 
2017-04-14 10:00:25 PM  

Literally Addicted: Moniker o' Shame: Literally Addicted: I thought it was the policy of all airlines that luggage does not go without the traveler?

That is probably their goal, but I think you did not intend to write what your wrote.

?  Your sentence syntax doesn't make sense to me.


I thought that you were trying to be funny saying that it was the policy that airlines luggage does not go with the passenger.  Instead of "with" you wrote "without."  Sorry to confuse you.
 
2017-04-14 10:01:30 PM  
I have had my luggage go on planes that I was bumped from, planes hours or even days after, and on planes to completely different states (fortunately not countries yet) and no one cares or has ever cared.  It has been X-rayed, tested for explosives and drugs, and even sometimes pawed through by a security and what difference does it make which plane it is on?
 
2017-04-14 10:08:53 PM  
Rhod Gilbert - Luggage Problems
Youtube KGAD1uTR1SY
 
2017-04-14 10:12:48 PM  

mama2tnt: Cuyose: Good lord, he lost 2 teeth because of this as well?!  We may just see the first person who win his own 737 and crew for life, complete with maintenance, catering, unlimited trips, and paid hotel anywhere in the world for life.

I want to go to law school just to take this case and win it so easily I become an icon as the first lawyer ever to get a client an entire airline.

The. entire. airline.


Yeah this, I'd go for a YEAR of united's annual revenue minimum. If they had to write off 40 billion they might actually notice and change.
 
2017-04-14 10:21:09 PM  
I seem to be in a small minority that thinks this guy took this way too far and has some mental shiat going on that exacerbated it. His background is not that of the normal airline passenger. I've flown hundreds of times and I realize that if the captain tells me they've decided to not carry me to where I had planned to go and they refund my money I have no argument. It's their plane. They can carry me or not. I'd be pissed but I'm not getting drug down the aisle as a huge attention whore.
 
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