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(Variety)   In DRM Amerika, Roku TV listens to you, which is why this is in the Geek tab and not the Entertainment tab   ( variety.com) divider line
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2944 clicks; posted to Geek » on 14 Apr 2017 at 8:06 AM (40 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2017-04-14 06:50:25 AM  
I like my TVs to be like my waitress at Hooters.
 
2017-04-14 08:08:04 AM  
Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...

Actually sounds like a nice feature.  Like Google can on my phone- at my request- listen to a song or my TV and do stuff with it.  I don't use it, but I think it's cool.
 
2017-04-14 08:30:50 AM  

downstairs: Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...

Actually sounds like a nice feature.  Like Google can on my phone- at my request- listen to a song or my TV and do stuff with it.  I don't use it, but I think it's cool.


yep. right up until a year later when they change their TOS to automatically opt you in (even if you've already opted out) and hide or flat out remove the option to turn off the feature. And bury the changes in fine print 90 pages deep in their 100 page TOS agreement you are forced to agree to in order to use your Roku enabled TV.

I know....no company would EVER stoop to doing something like that, right?
 
2017-04-14 08:33:20 AM  
Ha! Trick's on you, headline! It IS on the Entertainment tab!
 
2017-04-14 08:38:07 AM  
After that app update it's time for 24/7 streaming of Rodeo Clown Midget porn to see what recommendations I get.
 
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2017-04-14 08:39:07 AM  
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2017-04-14 09:35:43 AM  

BumpInTheNight: I like my TVs to be like my waitress at Hooters.


Brown and bitter? Or is that coffee. It is too damn early and I am hearing 'what is love' as the first song on the musak at the doctors office.

/and wife had on dancing with the stars this week, for some reason pandora tries to suggest the song, and I'm getting non stop references to it while we working on a switchboard replacement project for the VA in Rocksbury, MA

FREE coffee at the doctor's office. So I got that going from me, which is nice.

Otherwise I would be in my own personal hell
 
2017-04-14 09:36:26 AM  

BumpInTheNight: I like my TVs to be like my waitress at Hooters.


You like your waitress at Hooters to be flat and wide?
 
2017-04-14 09:37:00 AM  
Oh and doesn't every other streaming service do this to recommend something similar to what you just had on?
 
2017-04-14 09:40:32 AM  

Petey4335: Oh and doesn't every other streaming service do this to recommend something similar to what you just had on?


Streaming services just note what you are streaming through that service.  This system will identify what you're watching on cable / broadcast TV as well, so it's a broader level of monitoring.
 
2017-04-14 09:41:06 AM  
Transparent with and opt-in? That's not a problem.

If it were Big Fruit, the feature would launch on update and be unable to be disabled under the TOS.

/ Don't watch much TV anyway.
 
2017-04-14 09:57:45 AM  

BumpInTheNight: I like my TVs to be like my waitress at Hooters.


With a strange orange tint you cant seem to fix by playing with the knobs?
 
2017-04-14 10:08:35 AM  

Dick Gozinya: downstairs: Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...

Actually sounds like a nice feature.  Like Google can on my phone- at my request- listen to a song or my TV and do stuff with it.  I don't use it, but I think it's cool.

yep. right up until a year later when they change their TOS to automatically opt you in (even if you've already opted out) and hide or flat out remove the option to turn off the feature. And bury the changes in fine print 90 pages deep in their 100 page TOS agreement you are forced to agree to in order to use your Roku enabled TV.

I know....no company would EVER stoop to doing something like that, right?


Sure, companies will do some uncool things, like mess with the ToS and erode privacy protection. But, this is Roku. They exist because customers have selected them over two gorillas: Apple TV and Amazon Fire. If you're the big gorilla, you can screw customers because they selected you for the gorilla size. Roku exists just outside this size, so they are more careful about how they treat customers. They can't afford to lose credibility in the market. Now, if they knock Apple or Amazon out of the space, wait 6 months and take another look for evil practices.
 
2017-04-14 10:08:37 AM  

PlaidJaguar: BumpInTheNight: I like my TVs to be like my waitress at Hooters.

You like your waitress at Hooters to be flat and wide?


Does she got a badonkadonk?
 
2017-04-14 10:43:33 AM  
Maybe you should stop voting for tyrants America.
 
2017-04-14 10:51:13 AM  
2002 called, it wants its "My Tivo thinks I'm gay" meme back

/stupid paywalls
 
2017-04-14 11:13:35 AM  
Are we not men?  We are Tivo!
 
2017-04-14 11:14:48 AM  

BumpInTheNight: I like my TVs to be like my waitress at Hooters.


Terrified but strangely aloof?
 
2017-04-14 11:23:50 AM  

PlaidJaguar: BumpInTheNight: I like my TVs to be like my waitress at Hooters.

You like your waitress at Hooters to be flat and wide?


Off brand w/ Sony guts?
 
2017-04-14 12:37:06 PM  

Dick Gozinya: downstairs: Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...

Actually sounds like a nice feature.  Like Google can on my phone- at my request- listen to a song or my TV and do stuff with it.  I don't use it, but I think it's cool.

yep. right up until a year later when they change their TOS to automatically opt you in (even if you've already opted out) and hide or flat out remove the option to turn off the feature. And bury the changes in fine print 90 pages deep in their 100 page TOS agreement you are forced to agree to in order to use your Roku enabled TV.

I know....no company would EVER stoop to doing something like that, right?


I'm curious if it will also affect the plug-ins?
 
2017-04-14 01:35:14 PM  

downstairs: Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...


I am only two posts in, and I have a feeling your advice will be unheeded.
 
2017-04-14 03:00:04 PM  

BumpInTheNight: I like my TVs to be like my waitress at Hooters.


In labia enhancing running shorts and dreaming of someday actually gradutating high school?
 
2017-04-14 10:28:19 PM  

roostercube: Dick Gozinya: downstairs: Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...

Actually sounds like a nice feature.  Like Google can on my phone- at my request- listen to a song or my TV and do stuff with it.  I don't use it, but I think it's cool.

yep. right up until a year later when they change their TOS to automatically opt you in (even if you've already opted out) and hide or flat out remove the option to turn off the feature. And bury the changes in fine print 90 pages deep in their 100 page TOS agreement you are forced to agree to in order to use your Roku enabled TV.

I know....no company would EVER stoop to doing something like that, right?

Sure, companies will do some uncool things, like mess with the ToS and erode privacy protection. But, this is Roku. They exist because customers have selected them over two gorillas: Apple TV and Amazon Fire. If you're the big gorilla, you can screw customers because they selected you for the gorilla size. Roku exists just outside this size, so they are more careful about how they treat customers. They can't afford to lose credibility in the market. Now, if they knock Apple or Amazon out of the space, wait 6 months and take another look for evil practices.


Uh... Roku came way before those.
 
2017-04-14 10:40:57 PM  

Bullseyed: roostercube: Dick Gozinya: downstairs: Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...

Actually sounds like a nice feature.  Like Google can on my phone- at my request- listen to a song or my TV and do stuff with it.  I don't use it, but I think it's cool.

yep. right up until a year later when they change their TOS to automatically opt you in (even if you've already opted out) and hide or flat out remove the option to turn off the feature. And bury the changes in fine print 90 pages deep in their 100 page TOS agreement you are forced to agree to in order to use your Roku enabled TV.

I know....no company would EVER stoop to doing something like that, right?

Sure, companies will do some uncool things, like mess with the ToS and erode privacy protection. But, this is Roku. They exist because customers have selected them over two gorillas: Apple TV and Amazon Fire. If you're the big gorilla, you can screw customers because they selected you for the gorilla size. Roku exists just outside this size, so they are more careful about how they treat customers. They can't afford to lose credibility in the market. Now, if they knock Apple or Amazon out of the space, wait 6 months and take another look for evil practices.

Uh... Roku came way before those.


Excellent observation! But, being first doesn't make you a gorilla in size. Hydrox cookies were first, but Oreo dominates. Apple and Amazon have cash they can throw at any project and could effectively bankrupt even medium-sized competitors. Roku has to error on the side of being seen as protective of customers.
 
2017-04-15 12:54:11 AM  
So i have to get rid of he nowhere porn channel?
 
2017-04-15 03:45:09 AM  

roostercube: Bullseyed: roostercube: Dick Gozinya: downstairs: Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...

Actually sounds like a nice feature.  Like Google can on my phone- at my request- listen to a song or my TV and do stuff with it.  I don't use it, but I think it's cool.

yep. right up until a year later when they change their TOS to automatically opt you in (even if you've already opted out) and hide or flat out remove the option to turn off the feature. And bury the changes in fine print 90 pages deep in their 100 page TOS agreement you are forced to agree to in order to use your Roku enabled TV.

I know....no company would EVER stoop to doing something like that, right?

Sure, companies will do some uncool things, like mess with the ToS and erode privacy protection. But, this is Roku. They exist because customers have selected them over two gorillas: Apple TV and Amazon Fire. If you're the big gorilla, you can screw customers because they selected you for the gorilla size. Roku exists just outside this size, so they are more careful about how they treat customers. They can't afford to lose credibility in the market. Now, if they knock Apple or Amazon out of the space, wait 6 months and take another look for evil practices.

Uh... Roku came way before those.

Excellent observation! But, being first doesn't make you a gorilla in size. Hydrox cookies were first, but Oreo dominates. Apple and Amazon have cash they can throw at any project and could effectively bankrupt even medium-sized competitors. Roku has to error on the side of being seen as protective of customers.


Roku hasn't learned from the mistakes of RealNetworks which came before them.
 
2017-04-15 09:54:57 AM  

PlaidJaguar: Petey4335: Oh and doesn't every other streaming service do this to recommend something similar to what you just had on?

Streaming services just note what you are streaming through that service.  This system will identify what you're watching on cable / broadcast TV as well, so it's a broader level of monitoring.


Except that it will only work with compatible TVs.  I'm pretty sure it won't work with my setup.  I have a dumb TV.  Cable is fed to the TV via coax not HDMI.
 
2017-04-15 03:25:56 PM  

Bullseyed: roostercube: Dick Gozinya: downstairs: Let's not get worked up:

TFA: ...via an opt-in prompt...

Actually sounds like a nice feature.  Like Google can on my phone- at my request- listen to a song or my TV and do stuff with it.  I don't use it, but I think it's cool.

yep. right up until a year later when they change their TOS to automatically opt you in (even if you've already opted out) and hide or flat out remove the option to turn off the feature. And bury the changes in fine print 90 pages deep in their 100 page TOS agreement you are forced to agree to in order to use your Roku enabled TV.

I know....no company would EVER stoop to doing something like that, right?

Sure, companies will do some uncool things, like mess with the ToS and erode privacy protection. But, this is Roku. They exist because customers have selected them over two gorillas: Apple TV and Amazon Fire. If you're the big gorilla, you can screw customers because they selected you for the gorilla size. Roku exists just outside this size, so they are more careful about how they treat customers. They can't afford to lose credibility in the market. Now, if they knock Apple or Amazon out of the space, wait 6 months and take another look for evil practices.

Uh... Roku came way before those.


AppleTV predates Roku by over a year.
 
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