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(Alaska Dispatch News)   You think you're having a bad day? At least an engine didn't fall off your fighter jet while you were racing over the Bering Sea   ( adn.com) divider line
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2017-04-14 12:35:16 AM  

"Looks like I'm going swimming..."

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"...Simple."

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"C'mon, let's go, man's got a plane to catch!"

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"Boy, is this a machine."

 
2017-04-14 01:43:59 AM  
When a plane loses an engine it doesn't actually fall off, subby
 
2017-04-14 02:03:47 AM  
That's why some people say it's better to lose an engine than to lose the engine.
 
2017-04-14 02:06:40 AM  

whither_apophis: When a plane loses an engine it doesn't actually fall off, subby


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2017-04-14 02:17:59 AM  
They're Marines

/They could swim home carrying that gas-guzzler
//Nice work, Ms. Earp
///Glad you're safe, gentlemen
 
2017-04-14 02:57:36 AM  

Ivo Shandor: whither_apophis: When a plane loses an engine it doesn't actually fall off, subby

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They didn't lose an engine. They knew right where it was back on the tarmac
 
2017-04-14 04:55:22 AM  
Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?
 
2017-04-14 04:59:09 AM  

whither_apophis: When a plane loses an engine it doesn't actually fall off, subby


Came to say this.

If an engine were to fall off an F/A-18 in flight...I don't think there'd be much of an airplane left afterward.
 
2017-04-14 05:03:27 AM  

whither_apophis: When a plane loses an engine it doesn't actually fall off, subby


Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2017-04-14 05:23:38 AM  
Who knew jet parts had expiration dates?  Blitzer won't need his Viagra tonight.
 
2017-04-14 05:29:51 AM  
Engine didn't fall off this jet either
 
2017-04-14 05:30:13 AM  

griz13: whither_apophis: When a plane loses an engine it doesn't actually fall off, subby

Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.


O'Rly?

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2017-04-14 06:15:15 AM  
Subby and reading comprehension aren't the best of friends.
 
2017-04-14 06:23:11 AM  
So basically she did what she was trained to do, is that right?
 
2017-04-14 06:36:24 AM  
Good thing pilot didn't lost his berings
 
2017-04-14 06:47:55 AM  
 
2017-04-14 07:17:53 AM  

orbister: Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?


Yes. And that button is on the radio. Pilots are not omniscient, computers have a finite capacity for information, and where they hell would you put a map drawer on an F-18?
 
2017-04-14 07:24:22 AM  
Ron White Flying With Engine Problems
Youtube HRJpRu2RsSs


Came for this.  Now can leave undissapointed.
 
2017-04-14 07:28:47 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: whither_apophis: When a plane loses an engine it doesn't actually fall off, subby

Came to say this.

If an engine were to fall off an F/A-18 in flight...I don't think there'd be much of an airplane left afterward.


That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.
 
2017-04-14 07:32:38 AM  
FTA: 'planes lose about an engine a month over the Straight.'
That's crazy.


And I'm with subby. They should say 'had an engine failure'.
 
2017-04-14 07:36:46 AM  

Evil Twin Skippy: orbister: Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?

Yes. And that button is on the radio. Pilots are not omniscient, computers have a finite capacity for information, and where they hell would you put a map drawer on an F-18?


Actually, I'd expect modern fighters to have fancy onboard GPS systems, where that info WOULD be just a button away...god knows they cost enough.

/civilian VFR guy, though, so, just a guess
 
2017-04-14 07:37:10 AM  

Warmachine999: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/HRJpRu2RsSs - 480x360]

Came for this.  Now can leave undissapointed.


Wow. That is one unfunny comedian.
 
2017-04-14 07:42:48 AM  
About one aircraft a month reports losing an engine in flight to Earp's control facility

Someone may want to look into that, no?
 
2017-04-14 07:48:51 AM  

PunGent: Evil Twin Skippy: orbister: Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?

Yes. And that button is on the radio. Pilots are not omniscient, computers have a finite capacity for information, and where they hell would you put a map drawer on an F-18?

Actually, I'd expect modern fighters to have fancy onboard GPS systems, where that info WOULD be just a button away...god knows they cost enough.

/civilian VFR guy, though, so, just a guess


GPS just tells you where you are. And you had to preload maps for where you expected to be for your navigation software.

An F-18 is travelling over mostly water and it's main "runway" scoots around at 30+ knots. Plus I don't think your plane has to lug around weapons systems, tactical radar, bombs, and an 20mm cannon.

And I know for damn sure you aren't going to get a mobile signal in the Bearing Sea for weather.
 
2017-04-14 08:01:04 AM  
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2017-04-14 08:11:02 AM  
This is one reason I have an irrational dread of the Navy and Marines moving to the F-35. A twin engine can limp home if one shuts down, but the F-35 in the same situation is going in the drink.
 
2017-04-14 08:23:55 AM  

Evil Twin Skippy: PunGent: Evil Twin Skippy: orbister: Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?

Yes. And that button is on the radio. Pilots are not omniscient, computers have a finite capacity for information, and where they hell would you put a map drawer on an F-18?

Actually, I'd expect modern fighters to have fancy onboard GPS systems, where that info WOULD be just a button away...god knows they cost enough.

/civilian VFR guy, though, so, just a guess

GPS just tells you where you are. And you had to preload maps for where you expected to be for your navigation software.

An F-18 is travelling over mostly water and it's main "runway" scoots around at 30+ knots. Plus I don't think your plane has to lug around weapons systems, tactical radar, bombs, and an 20mm cannon.

And I know for damn sure you aren't going to get a mobile signal in the Bearing Sea for weather.


On the plus side GPS doesn't need a mobile signal and will work pretty much anywhere. (Over the North and South poles are about the only weak spots). On the down side these fighters are built for a serious war, and in a serious war GPS could either be turned off or destroyed by the enemy, so it's best to have your pilots trained in navigating using systems that do not rely on an outside signal.

And you can get systems that can have all airports in the American, Canadian and Europe and stored in them for $1500. I would certainly expect the USAF to be able to make its own maps for the rest of the world.
 
2017-04-14 08:35:04 AM  

Evil Twin Skippy: orbister: Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?

Yes. And that button is on the radio. Pilots are not omniscient, computers have a finite capacity for information, and where they hell would you put a map drawer on an F-18?


Used to be, pilots had map case on the top of  their left leg so they could look down and see it. Part of the flight suit.
That was a long time ago .
 
2017-04-14 08:35:14 AM  
Older military aircraft don't have the cool computer with all that info.  Newer aircraft do, but the computer only displays data it's programmed to display.  To cut down on screen clutter it's possible not all airports in the world are loaded into that aircraft's computer.  Just a guess.
 
2017-04-14 08:36:35 AM  

phrawgh: griz13: whither_apophis: When a plane loses an engine it doesn't actually fall off, subby

Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.

O'Rly?

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2017-04-14 08:37:57 AM  
Lost an engine is not synonymous with falling off.
 
2017-04-14 08:42:00 AM  

Evil Twin Skippy: orbister: Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?

Yes. And that button is on the radio. Pilots are not omniscient, computers have a finite capacity for information, and where they hell would you put a map drawer on an F-18?


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Something like this I imagine. Will Velcro hold at 9Gs?
 
2017-04-14 08:47:53 AM  
You don't know that.

Maybe that happens to me every day.
 
2017-04-14 08:57:12 AM  

RINO: This is one reason I have an irrational dread of the Navy and Marines moving to the F-35. A twin engine can limp home if one shuts down, but the F-35 in the same situation is going in the drink.


Honestly, I thought this story was going to be about the F-35. but then I remembered, they are almost always grounded anyway.
 
2017-04-14 09:24:54 AM  
A B-52 "temporarily misplaced" an engine over North Dakota back in January.  Had to make the dreaded 7 engine approach, but yeah "lost" engines rarely fall off.  I can't recall and engine ever falling off/out of a fuselage mounted fighter engine- just under slung turbofans.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/engine-drops-out-of-b-52-during-t​r​aining-at-minot-air-force-base
 
2017-04-14 09:31:02 AM  

RINO: This is one reason I have an irrational dread of the Navy and Marines moving to the F-35. A twin engine can limp home if one shuts down, but the F-35 in the same situation is going in the drink.


The modern thinking is as follows:
- modern engines are very reliable
- 2 engines = twice the chance that there will be a failure of one of them
- when the engines are side-by-side, as they are in many fighter jets like the f-18, any kind of violent failure in one tends to take out the other.

Canada has always had the requirement of 2 engines in their fighter RFPs because our pilots have to cover a lot of remote, cold territory. But, in recent years, they have relaxed that requirement.
 
2017-04-14 09:32:22 AM  

PunGent: Actually, I'd expect modern fighters to have fancy onboard GPS systems, where that info WOULD be just a button away...god knows they cost enough.


Generally they do, but when you've just had an engine failure and are trying to do all the necessary piloting stuff to keep the plane going right, it's a lot easier for someone else that knows the region better to start feeding you landing options instead of waste time flipping pages on your GPS
 
2017-04-14 09:51:14 AM  
Has anyone mentioned that jet engines do indeed sometimes fall off?
 
2017-04-14 10:13:33 AM  

Sliding Carp: That's why some people say it's better to lose an engine than to lose the engine.


F-18: emergency divert.
F-35: freeze to death in arctic waters.

'Nuff said.
 
2017-04-14 10:15:12 AM  

Beeblebrox: Has anyone mentioned that jet engines do indeed sometimes fall off?


Rarely on fighters. Engines on pylons on your 737 are designed to break off in extreme G situations. Fighter jets are meant to do extreme G situations.....
 
2017-04-14 10:16:46 AM  
Thanks goodness Seven of Nine was there to help out.

* can't believe no one got this yet
 
2017-04-14 10:30:21 AM  

Beeblebrox: Has anyone mentioned that jet engines do indeed sometimes fall off?


Well, yes... but those are podded engines which in some cases are even designed to fall off, where as the F-18s engines are built inside the aircraft.  If an engine were to fall off an F-18, it would be shortly followed by the rest of the aircraft.
 
2017-04-14 10:51:23 AM  

Click Click D'oh: Beeblebrox: Has anyone mentioned that jet engines do indeed sometimes fall off?

Well, yes... but those are podded engines which in some cases are even designed to fall off, where as the F-18s engines are built inside the aircraft.  If an engine were to fall off an F-18, it would be shortly followed by the rest of the aircraft.


That was sarcasm, by the way.  I don't think anyone ever believed that internally mounted engines were flying off of fighters.
 
2017-04-14 11:02:50 AM  
Looks like the magnets that hold the engine onto the plane failed. Was it raining?
 
2017-04-14 11:07:24 AM  

Beeblebrox: That was sarcasm, by the way.


Sorry.  I think my sarcasm detector broke after the election... I just can't tell what is serious and what is a joke anymore... or... is it all a joke?
 
2017-04-14 11:35:13 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Paul_Island_(Alaska)


Anyone who watches Deadliest Catch is familiar with it, it's one of the major ports where they unload their cargo.
 
2017-04-14 11:42:56 AM  

Gleeman: Evil Twin Skippy: orbister: Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?

Yes. And that button is on the radio. Pilots are not omniscient, computers have a finite capacity for information, and where they hell would you put a map drawer on an F-18?

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Something like this I imagine. Will Velcro hold at 9Gs?


Sure, a tablet weighs at most a couple pounds (so say 18lbs under 9g), a 2" wide strip of velcro can hold a 4x8 wall panel weighing like 50 pounds up (in fact Wikipedia says "Some touch fasteners are strong enough that a two-inch square (5 × 5 cm) piece is enough to support a 175-pound (80 kg) load ")
 
2017-04-14 12:20:25 PM  

Gleeman: Evil Twin Skippy: orbister: Shouldn't possible diversionary airports be a press of a button away?

Yes. And that button is on the radio. Pilots are not omniscient, computers have a finite capacity for information, and where they hell would you put a map drawer on an F-18?

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Something like this I imagine. Will Velcro hold at 9Gs?


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2017-04-14 12:21:47 PM  
Evil Twin Skippy:
And I know for damn sure you aren't going to get a mobile signal in the Bearing Sea for weather.

We've got these cool things called "satellites" now. You should check them out.
 
2017-04-14 12:22:39 PM  

Highroller48: Sliding Carp: That's why some people say it's better to lose an engine than to lose the engine.

F-18: emergency divert.
F-35: freeze to death in arctic waters.

'Nuff said.


The nickname for the F-16 is the lawn dart. And that reputation was earned.
 
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