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(Engadget)   Have you been waiting for your chance to get your hands on an NES Classic? Welp, sucks to be you   ( engadget.com) divider line
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2017-04-13 11:27:20 PM  
Meh. Doesn't play actual carts. Doesn't use actual controllers. Might as well just use an emulator box.
 
2017-04-13 11:54:34 PM  
Nintendo: We hate products that sell. Buy our Wii U!
 
2017-04-14 12:07:52 AM  
I have a working 001 and the Robbie Robot. I never even had a Mario cartridge until SM3.
 
2017-04-14 01:54:40 AM  

wildcardjack: I have a working 001 and the Robbie Robot. I never even had a Mario cartridge until SM3.


I want to play Zelda now.
 
2017-04-14 02:36:30 AM  
I guess the NES Classic is outshining the Switch.
 
2017-04-14 02:39:43 AM  
When I couldn't get a NES classic, I got a Retro Pie, seems I made the right call.
 
2017-04-14 02:40:15 AM  
Maybe a newer version is inbound
 
2017-04-14 02:42:07 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Maybe a newer version is inbound


Yeah the SNES Classic.
 
2017-04-14 02:45:41 AM  

Lycan: When I couldn't get a NES classic, I got a Retro Pie, seems I made the right call.


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Retro Pie?
 
2017-04-14 02:51:25 AM  
Just buy a Wii and hack it.

Bonus, you get all the Wii games, WiiWare games, snes, turbo graphics 16, etc games too.

Downside: possibly unethical. Definitely illegal.
 
2017-04-14 02:52:09 AM  
Nintendo: the best legacy IPs from the 80s and 90s, and the uncontested worst at managing those IPs in every way.

They essentially force you to use an emulator rather than giving them actual money for the products they own that people actually like.  And given that they've made all of two actual good games in the last decade or so, you'd think they'd want to cash in on the older stuff a bit more.
 
2017-04-14 02:55:27 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Nintendo: the best legacy IPs from the 80s and 90s, and the uncontested worst at managing those IPs in every way.

They essentially force you to use an emulator rather than giving them actual money for the products they own that people actually like.  And given that they've made all of two actual good games in the last decade or so, you'd think they'd want to cash in on the older stuff a bit more.


Oh look, another person with no knowledge of the Wii or wiiu, much less the portable systems, telling us how terrible Nintendo is.

/Rolleyes.
 
2017-04-14 03:02:46 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Nintendo: the best legacy IPs from the 80s and 90s, and the uncontested worst at managing those IPs in every way.


I keep thinking they must have some insane plan to do HD remakes and mobile ports on like every single one of their good 80s/90s titles (since that's the only thing an emulator can't do) and the tech keeps advancing too fast for them to end up releasing them.  I mean, if they just did a straight up HD and mobile remake of Zelda 1 and 2 they could probably charge $50 a pop and people would buy them like crazy.  I mean, I'm no developer, but how hard would it be to get somebody to that?

/or Metroid
//or SMB 1/2/3
///or frigging anything really
 
2017-04-14 03:09:22 AM  
I have a Xbox modded with a few thousand games. The kid loves it.
 
2017-04-14 03:09:47 AM  
Well, glad my top loader works just fine. Doing a sword less Zelda run with friends tonight, actually.

I give us 70% chance of getting too drunk to complete.
 
2017-04-14 03:14:57 AM  

Smackledorfer: Oh look, another person with no knowledge of the Wii or wiiu, much less the portable systems, telling us how terrible Nintendo is.

/Rolleyes.


Nintendo has had only three games break 15 million units sold since 2007.  One of those was in 2007, making it a bit marginal (the New SMB game), the other two were both Pokemon, and thus essentially the same game.  They've had only one non-nostalgia game break the two million mark in that time, Splatoon.

Similarly, in that time only Splatoon and one of those two Pokemon games has garnered any particular critical success, though you could argue that the newest Zelda might count as well.

The most press the company has received in that last decade has been about negative things, e.g. snide comments about how the best-selling Pokemon game of all time wasn't released by nintendo, and quite a lot about its shiatty IP policies, spamming frivolous lawsuits and false DMCA takedown notices and even going after fan sites for some reason.

tl;dr -- Nintendo is kind of a clusterfark of a company right now that seems to view the fact that it's doing fairly well as a problem and is taking great pains to fix it.
 
2017-04-14 03:27:17 AM  
It sucks, but I'm guessing it's got more to do with a catfight over rights. Final Fantasy is on the NES classic. And we all know how insane Square-Enix is about their IP. It's actually amazing it even happened at all.
 
2017-04-14 03:59:45 AM  
A company that decides to stop making and selling a product which is still selling enough to consume the supply. Hmm. It was probaly an MBA on staff that came up with that one.
 
2017-04-14 04:00:39 AM  
*sigh*
For $60 I would have happily gotten for the family. Third party places have taken their prices from about $160 last week to $300 or more now that the news is getting out.
Strike that, I am now seeing prices hit $400 as I type this.
Lovely.
 
2017-04-14 04:39:36 AM  

RuneSaint: *sigh*
For $60 I would have happily gotten for the family. Third party places have taken their prices from about $160 last week to $300 or more now that the news is getting out.
Strike that, I am now seeing prices hit $400 as I type this.
Lovely.


Take some time and learn how to make one of the Raspberry Pi emulators.  Get a Raspberry Pi 3, a good Wi U Pro controller (looks like an XBox controller) a 32 GB mini SD card and some youtube videos on how to install the OS and pair the controller.  Once you do a search for emulators, download to your hearts content.  Cheaper than trying resale sites for a NES mini, IMHO.
 
2017-04-14 04:46:36 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Smackledorfer: Oh look, another person with no knowledge of the Wii or wiiu, much less the portable systems, telling us how terrible Nintendo is.

/Rolleyes.

Nintendo has had only three games break 15 million units sold since 2007.  One of those was in 2007, making it a bit marginal (the New SMB game), the other two were both Pokemon, and thus essentially the same game.  They've had only one non-nostalgia game break the two million mark in that time, Splatoon.

Similarly, in that time only Splatoon and one of those two Pokemon games has garnered any particular critical success, though you could argue that the newest Zelda might count as well.

The most press the company has received in that last decade has been about negative things, e.g. snide comments about how the best-selling Pokemon game of all time wasn't released by nintendo, and quite a lot about its shiatty IP policies, spamming frivolous lawsuits and false DMCA takedown notices and even going after fan sites for some reason.

tl;dr -- Nintendo is kind of a clusterfark of a company right now that seems to view the fact that it's doing fairly well as a problem and is taking great pains to fix it.

4 hours ago
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2017/04/14/nintendo-just-broke-​s​ome-major-us-sales-records-for-zelda-and-switch/#7683a12b5ae5
 
2017-04-14 04:48:01 AM  
The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild. The game sold 460,000 units on the last-gen Wii U and 925,000 for the Nintendo Switch in the US. That's a Switch attach rate of above 100%, which is almost unheard of.
 
2017-04-14 05:03:54 AM  

RuneSaint: *sigh*
For $60 I would have happily gotten for the family.


Which means you wouldn't be spending $300 for a Switch plus $50 each for 8 games.  Yeah, you'll probably spend 0 instead, but there are at least a few potential Switch customers who wouldn't bother if they could get the Classic for much cheaper instead.

Nintendo's decided it's worth sacrificing people like you to go for extra Switch sales.
 
2017-04-14 05:53:22 AM  
I waited in line almost twenty minutes to get one.
 
2017-04-14 06:06:31 AM  
I am not a gamer, but I know some smart ones. One of the biggest hurdles, to release old games, is intellectual property rights. Studios long gone, merged, failed, and purchased have various rights. Some, even have rights with individuals who may be dead and have not had an estate deal with it.

This is why seeing old games may not happen, for many titles. By which I mean, get a Pi and an emulator. You're not getting the games any other way, as I understand it. Some third parties have tracked down legal rights and make independent works.
 
2017-04-14 07:32:55 AM  
I really wanted to get one of these (although not paying above retail), but even checking inventory trackers on a regular basis, I couldn't manage it.  They would sell out in less than 10 minutes from most online retailers.

I still have a fully-stocked emulator on my computer and even a NES-to-USB controller adapter, but from what I've read, the emulation on the NES Classic was the best that's ever been done.  At this point, even if they announce a SNES Classic, I don't know if I can bother getting excited knowing how badly Nintendo handles inventory.
 
2017-04-14 07:51:19 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Smackledorfer: Oh look, another person with no knowledge of the Wii or wiiu, much less the portable systems, telling us how terrible Nintendo is.

/Rolleyes.

Nintendo has had only three games break 15 million units sold since 2007.  One of those was in 2007, making it a bit marginal (the New SMB game), the other two were both Pokemon, and thus essentially the same game.  They've had only one non-nostalgia game break the two million mark in that time, Splatoon.

Similarly, in that time only Splatoon and one of those two Pokemon games has garnered any particular critical success, though you could argue that the newest Zelda might count as well.

The most press the company has received in that last decade has been about negative things, e.g. snide comments about how the best-selling Pokemon game of all time wasn't released by nintendo, and quite a lot about its shiatty IP policies, spamming frivolous lawsuits and false DMCA takedown notices and even going after fan sites for some reason.

tl;dr -- Nintendo is kind of a clusterfark of a company right now that seems to view the fact that it's doing fairly well as a problem and is taking great pains to fix it.


They've always under-produced hardware.  When I was managing for EB/Gameslop, our regional Nintendo rep said their philosophy was, it's better to leave a couple hundred thousand people wanting a system, than to have a million units sitting in a warehouse doing nothing.

/IIRC, the Wii and WiiU were the only consoles in the last 15 years to make a profit per unit sold.
//She also gave me a Mario Party shot glass; it's tough to decide whether that or the Destroy All Humans "One Giant Step on Mankind" poster is my favorite piece of swag.
 
2017-04-14 08:08:41 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-04-14 08:11:48 AM  
Still have my actual NES.
 
2017-04-14 08:15:04 AM  

debug: Still have my actual NES.


I still have 3rd party USB NES controllers and an hdmi out on my computer, with literally every NES game.

I would have gladly shelled out $60 for this thing. I will not shell out a god damned penny above that because of some asshole scalpers.

So screw it, I'll stick to emulators.
 
2017-04-14 08:38:05 AM  
Got a pi3 + Lakka and an 8Bitdo controller for this. Started tinkering  with soldering, combining custom made copper heatsinks with old gpu blower fan. (Overkill perhaps, but point of Pi is learning stuff, right? Need to figure out how to script fan on/off...)
 
2017-04-14 08:44:35 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Smackledorfer: Oh look, another person with no knowledge of the Wii or wiiu, much less the portable systems, telling us how terrible Nintendo is.

/Rolleyes.

Nintendo has had only three games break 15 million units sold since 2007.  One of those was in 2007, making it a bit marginal (the New SMB game), the other two were both Pokemon, and thus essentially the same game.  They've had only one non-nostalgia game break the two million mark in that time, Splatoon.

Similarly, in that time only Splatoon and one of those two Pokemon games has garnered any particular critical success, though you could argue that the newest Zelda might count as well.

The most press the company has received in that last decade has been about negative things, e.g. snide comments about how the best-selling Pokemon game of all time wasn't released by nintendo, and quite a lot about its shiatty IP policies, spamming frivolous lawsuits and false DMCA takedown notices and even going after fan sites for some reason.

tl;dr -- Nintendo is kind of a clusterfark of a company right now that seems to view the fact that it's doing fairly well as a problem and is taking great pains to fix it.


1. I didn't realize a game had to break 15 million units to be good.

2. By any current measure, the switch is on track to do quite well, so your own summary of your point is biased and false.

Again, we have yet another person who doesn't know wtf they are talking about repeating tired and trollish bullshiat in a gaming thread. Here is an idea: if you stopped liking Nintendo IPs around the nes, you simply don't like Nintendo IPs (and there is nothing wrong with that). Nothing Nintendo could produce would satisfy you, because nostalgia is the only thing you enjoy about Mario, Zelda, etc.
 
2017-04-14 09:45:29 AM  

debug: Still have my actual NES.


As do I.  I put a new contactor in it and it made a world of difference in getting games to actually play.
 
2017-04-14 09:53:54 AM  
I'd rather just rebuy the games on vc picking the ones I want and spending less than $60. NES classic looks cool but the value proposition is weak.
 
2017-04-14 10:08:13 AM  

NeoCortex42: At this point, even if they announce a SNES Classic, I don't know if I can bother getting excited knowing how badly Nintendo handles inventory.


I've been in that boat for about a decade now, after the original frenzy around the Wii. They took alllll the wrong lessons from that. Whenever I see things like the mini NES I just shrug my shoulders and move on, big ole meh. Their insistence on forced scarcity is baffling and offputting.
 
2017-04-14 11:19:56 AM  

Outlawtsar: I keep thinking they must have some insane plan to do HD remakes and mobile ports on like every single one of their good 80s/90s titles (since that's the only thing an emulator can't do) and the tech keeps advancing too fast for them to end up releasing them.  I mean, if they just did a straight up HD and mobile remake of Zelda 1 and 2 they could probably charge $50 a pop and people would buy them like crazy.  I mean, I'm no developer, but how hard would it be to get somebody to that?

/or Metroid
//or SMB 1/2/3
///or frigging anything really


Nah, I wouldn't go over $20.

/unless the price tag was clearly marked $50
//but yes, they should do this
///maybe a collection for 50, Zelda 1, 2 and LttP for $50 sounds good
 
2017-04-14 11:22:19 AM  

Outlawtsar: Jim_Callahan: Nintendo: the best legacy IPs from the 80s and 90s, and the uncontested worst at managing those IPs in every way.

I keep thinking they must have some insane plan to do HD remakes and mobile ports on like every single one of their good 80s/90s titles (since that's the only thing an emulator can't do) and the tech keeps advancing too fast for them to end up releasing them.  I mean, if they just did a straight up HD and mobile remake of Zelda 1 and 2 they could probably charge $50 a pop and people would buy them like crazy.  I mean, I'm no developer, but how hard would it be to get somebody to that?

/or Metroid
//or SMB 1/2/3
///or frigging anything really


You realize they have re-released Zelda 1 & 2 for multiple systems over the years and all have sold gangbusters, right?
 
2017-04-14 12:03:34 PM  
Smackledorfer: ...if you stopped liking Nintendo IPs around the nes, you simply don't like Nintendo IPs (and there is nothing wrong with that). Nothing Nintendo could produce would satisfy you, because nostalgia is the only thing you enjoy about Mario, Zelda, etc.

I think that's about where I'm at.
 
2017-04-14 12:23:02 PM  

Smackledorfer: Just buy a Wii and hack it.

Bonus, you get all the Wii games, WiiWare games, snes, turbo graphics 16, etc games too.

Downside: possibly unethical. Definitely illegal.


Alternatively, get a Wii U and hack the Wii mode in it, as it is just as exploitable.

I am moving to Wii U based emulators, though. I started a game of Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link using the Wii U port of RetroArch with the fceumm core.
 
2017-04-14 01:25:12 PM  
Nintendo can go fark itself.

I wish I had the time to figure out how to set up an emulator.
Screw it, maybe I'll do that this weekend...

I already have a Wii... Does that make it easier or should I just go the Raspberry Pi route?

/seriously, links are appreciated
//it's for the children, I swear
 
2017-04-14 01:53:55 PM  

cjoshuav: Smackledorfer: ...if you stopped liking Nintendo IPs around the nes, you simply don't like Nintendo IPs (and there is nothing wrong with that). Nothing Nintendo could produce would satisfy you, because nostalgia is the only thing you enjoy about Mario, Zelda, etc.

I think that's about where I'm at.


And as I said, there is nothing wrong with it. There just isn't much that can be made for someone who wants more smb3/world but complains Mario maker, new Smb, galaxy, etc are crap.

Meanwhile I would rather play those all day long than any fps that sells huge numbers for the Xbox.
 
2017-04-14 01:57:04 PM  

orezona: Nintendo can go fark itself.

I wish I had the time to figure out how to set up an emulator.
Screw it, maybe I'll do that this weekend...

I already have a Wii... Does that make it easier or should I just go the Raspberry Pi route?

/seriously, links are appreciated
//it's for the children, I swear


https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-install-the-wii-homebrew-channel-2498​5​13
 
2017-04-14 01:58:07 PM  

orezona: Nintendo can go fark itself.

I wish I had the time to figure out how to set up an emulator.
Screw it, maybe I'll do that this weekend...

I already have a Wii... Does that make it easier or should I just go the Raspberry Pi route?

/seriously, links are appreciated
//it's for the children, I swear


Softmodding a Wii (or the Wii mode of the Wii U) is trivially easy so long as you have the right game (Super Smash Bros is a common choice) and a compatible SD card. I can give a link to instructions if you want, once I am at my computer.
 
2017-04-14 03:14:25 PM  
When they announced it, they said it was for a limited time.
 
2017-04-14 03:30:17 PM  

Smackledorfer: Meanwhile I would rather play those all day long than any fps that sells huge numbers for the Xbox.


I'm a PC turn-based (Western) RPG and strategy gamer, so my only real interest in Nintendo has always been the arcade and platform titles of my youth. I do wish I could get my hands on an NES Classic, but I can't see ever owning a WII or a Switch.
 
2017-04-14 04:25:33 PM  

cjoshuav: Smackledorfer: Meanwhile I would rather play those all day long than any fps that sells huge numbers for the Xbox.

I'm a PC turn-based (Western) RPG and strategy gamer, so my only real interest in Nintendo has always been the arcade and platform titles of my youth. I do wish I could get my hands on an NES Classic, but I can't see ever owning a WII or a Switch.


Sounds about right. I'm hoping the switch gets more rpg than the wiis, being easier to code for supposedly.
 
2017-04-14 05:03:38 PM  

kevinatilusa: RuneSaint: *sigh*
For $60 I would have happily gotten for the family.

Which means you wouldn't be spending $300 for a Switch plus $50 each for 8 games.  Yeah, you'll probably spend 0 instead, but there are at least a few potential Switch customers who wouldn't bother if they could get the Classic for much cheaper instead.

Nintendo's decided it's worth sacrificing people like you to go for extra Switch sales.


I did not know that the NES Classic and the Switch are the same product!
 
2017-04-14 05:16:51 PM  
Not the same product, but they are competitors, and Nintendo's worried the Classic will cannibalize the more lucrative Switch's sales.
 
2017-04-14 05:26:46 PM  

Smackledorfer: Just buy a Wii and hack it.

Bonus, you get all the Wii games, WiiWare games, snes, turbo graphics 16, etc games too.

Downside: possibly unethical. Definitely illegal.


Or do what I did (and many others): mod your PSP and have games on the go. Works wonders for those games they don't sell on the freaking storefront (read: an awful lot of them) that were classics of their own right.
 
2017-04-14 06:34:53 PM  
I bought a "Retro" (I think that's the brand, that's what it says on it) combo NES/SNES console for $40 or $50 a year ago... It takes both cartridges, the controllers are junk but It's supposed to work with original controllers, if I ever get around to buying some... There is a retro toy store in my local mall that has a good selection of games, they buy and sell used ones so the selection changes a lot. Picked up a few games, Legend of Zelda and Super Mario Bros. 1, 2, and 3 are still fun, so is Punch-Out!. But I really don't play it very often, been about 3 or 4 months since I've even turned it on. It's nice to have though, for the nostalgia factor!
 
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