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2017-04-14 12:02:58 AM  
When faced with negative press, make the most ludicrous counter-accusation you can.

That's the Russian way.
 
2017-04-14 01:17:53 AM  

Banned on the Run: When faced with negative press, make the most ludicrous counter-accusation you can.

That's the Russian way.


Their American agents have learned well.
 
2017-04-14 01:47:32 AM  
Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.
 
2017-04-14 01:52:24 AM  
Worlds?  Try extremely different alternate universe.
 
2017-04-14 01:53:31 AM  
Mossad has done some stranger shiat than the CIA did, but this is too pants-on-head stupid to be true.
 
2017-04-14 01:55:34 AM  
Israel backs Isis conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy

"Backs"? Does that word mean something different to IBT editors?
 
2017-04-14 02:00:05 AM  
In the sense that Israel bombings in Syria usually target Hezbollah convoys or Assad's installations, and ISIS is among one of the many groups that Hezbollah and Assad are fighting, you could make a roundabout case for "Israel backs ISIS".

He's also correct that Israel is treating wounded people coming across the border regardless of which faction they come from so it's quite possible that we treated some from Al Qaeda.
 
2017-04-14 02:01:40 AM  

fusillade762: Israel backs Isis conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy

"Backs"? Does that word mean something different to IBT editors?


"Israel backs Isis" conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy would make it clearer.
 
2017-04-14 02:18:30 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.


Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.
 
2017-04-14 02:23:39 AM  

shpritz: fusillade762: Israel backs Isis conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy

"Backs"? Does that word mean something different to IBT editors?

"Israel backs Isis" conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy would make it clearer.


Ah yes, that does make a lot more sense.
 
2017-04-14 02:25:17 AM  

fusillade762: shpritz: fusillade762: Israel backs Isis conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy

"Backs"? Does that word mean something different to IBT editors?

"Israel backs Isis" conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy would make it clearer.

Ah yes, that does make a lot more sense.


No.  It does not make more sense.  It's just more clearly stated nonsense.
 
2017-04-14 02:31:25 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.


img.fark.net
 
2017-04-14 02:33:56 AM  
Trumpty Dumpty may be stupid enough to believe it!
 
2017-04-14 02:34:06 AM  

TOSViolation: fusillade762: shpritz: fusillade762: Israel backs Isis conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy

"Backs"? Does that word mean something different to IBT editors?

"Israel backs Isis" conspiracy parroted by Syria's UN envoy would make it clearer.

Ah yes, that does make a lot more sense.

No.  It does not make more sense.  It's just more clearly stated nonsense.


In a grammatical sense, before the quotations, the isolated sentence implied Israel agreed that they helped ISIS.
 
2017-04-14 02:38:34 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.


You can have that opinion. But that's irrelevant to the fact that the world does have a problem with it.

I am just saying I can see how it would be in the interest of Israel of the Middle-east is squabling internally, and taking all the intention. I'm not saying Israel is supporting ISIS.

I'm sure ISIS is getting enough support from the Saudis anyway.
 
2017-04-14 03:01:42 AM  
I think the Jews hold short of gassing their foes.

/for some reason
 
2017-04-14 03:03:24 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.

You can have that opinion. But that's irrelevant to the fact that the world does have a problem with it.

I am just saying I can see how it would be in the interest of Israel of the Middle-east is squabling internally, and taking all the intention. I'm not saying Israel is supporting ISIS.

I'm sure ISIS is getting enough support from the Saudis anyway.


It's all the same anti-semitic bullshiat that leads people to deny the Holocaust ever happened. You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.
 
2017-04-14 03:12:39 AM  
MOAB - Mother Of All Bullshiat.
 
2017-04-14 03:13:29 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.

You can have that opinion. But that's irrelevant to the fact that the world does have a problem with it.

I am just saying I can see how it would be in the interest of Israel of the Middle-east is squabling internally, and taking all the intention. I'm not saying Israel is supporting ISIS.

I'm sure ISIS is getting enough support from the Saudis anyway.

It's all the same anti-semitic bullshiat that leads people to deny the Holocaust ever happened. You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.


You sure seem randomly defensive.

What is your deal?
 
2017-04-14 03:18:11 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: You sure seem randomly defensive.

What is your deal?


I'm from The South.  We've had to deal with the KKK.  I know how to recognize antisemitism when I see it.
 
2017-04-14 03:21:34 AM  

TOSViolation: You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.


Current Israeli law disagrees with your "fact".
 
2017-04-14 03:23:00 AM  
It's not uncommon in the Middle East to make wild conspiracy theory regarding Israel. For fark sakes,
the rumor of Israel withholding, "red mercury" from the world is still a thing in the Middle East.

Saudi Arabia
In April 2009 it was reported from Saudi Arabia that rumors that Singer sewing machines contained "red mercury" had caused the prices of such machines to massively increase in the Kingdom, with some paying up to SR 200,000 for a single machine which could previously have been bought for SR 200.[23] Believers in the rumor claimed that the presence of red mercury in the sewing machines' needles could be detected using a mobile telephone; if the line cut off when the telephone was placed near to the needle, this supposedly proved that the substance was present.
In Medina there was a busy trade in the sewing machines, with buyers seen using mobile phones to check the machines for red mercury content, while it was reported that others had resorted to theft, with two tailors' shops in Dhulum broken into and their sewing machines stolen. At other locales, there were rumors that a Kuwait-based multinational had been buying up the Singer machines, while in Al-Jouf, the residents were led to believe that a local museum was buying up any such machines that it could find, and numerous women appeared at the museum offering to sell their Singer machines.[citation needed]
There was little agreement among believers in the story as to the exact nature or even color of the red mercury, while the supposed uses for it ranged from it being an essential component of nuclear power, to having the ability to summon jinn, extract gold, or locate buried treasure and perform other forms of magic. The official spokesman for the Riyadh police said that the rumors had been started by gangs attempting to swindle people out of their money, and denied the existence of red mercury in sewing machines.[24]
 
2017-04-14 03:24:05 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: You sure seem randomly defensive.

What is your deal?

I'm from The South.  We've had to deal with the KKK.  I know how to recognize antisemitism when I see it.


Are you calling me or Assad an antisemite?
 
2017-04-14 03:26:26 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.


Israel could make that happen, but they'd need a big hammer with a label on it that says "In case of oil shortage, break glass".
 
2017-04-14 03:26:35 AM  

shpritz: TOSViolation: You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.

Current Israeli law disagrees with your "fact".


Current Native American law says they only have a limited sovereignty over their tiny reservations, but that doesn't mean this entire continent isn't still rightfully theirs.

I get it.  You hate Jews.  I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.
 
2017-04-14 03:31:24 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: It's not uncommon in the Middle East to make wild conspiracy theory regarding Israel. For fark sakes,
the rumor of Israel withholding, "red mercury" from the world is still a thing in the Middle East.

Saudi Arabia
In April 2009 it was reported from Saudi Arabia that rumors that Singer sewing machines contained "red mercury" had caused the prices of such machines to massively increase in the Kingdom, with some paying up to SR 200,000 for a single machine which could previously have been bought for SR 200.[23] Believers in the rumor claimed that the presence of red mercury in the sewing machines' needles could be detected using a mobile telephone; if the line cut off when the telephone was placed near to the needle, this supposedly proved that the substance was present.
In Medina there was a busy trade in the sewing machines, with buyers seen using mobile phones to check the machines for red mercury content, while it was reported that others had resorted to theft, with two tailors' shops in Dhulum broken into and their sewing machines stolen. At other locales, there were rumors that a Kuwait-based multinational had been buying up the Singer machines, while in Al-Jouf, the residents were led to believe that a local museum was buying up any such machines that it could find, and numerous women appeared at the museum offering to sell their Singer machines.[citation needed]
There was little agreement among believers in the story as to the exact nature or even color of the red mercury, while the supposed uses for it ranged from it being an essential component of nuclear power, to having the ability to summon jinn, extract gold, or locate buried treasure and perform other forms of magic. The official spokesman for the Riyadh police said that the rumors had been started by gangs attempting to swindle people out of their money, and denied the existence of red mercury in sewing machines.[24]


That's quite a lot of dumbassery.
 
2017-04-14 03:35:54 AM  

Smoking GNU: Mr. Shabooboo: It's not uncommon in the Middle East to make wild conspiracy theory regarding Israel. For fark sakes,
the rumor of Israel withholding, "red mercury" from the world is still a thing in the Middle East.

Saudi Arabia
In April 2009 it was reported from Saudi Arabia that rumors that Singer sewing machines contained "red mercury" had caused the prices of such machines to massively increase in the Kingdom, with some paying up to SR 200,000 for a single machine which could previously have been bought for SR 200.[23] Believers in the rumor claimed that the presence of red mercury in the sewing machines' needles could be detected using a mobile telephone; if the line cut off when the telephone was placed near to the needle, this supposedly proved that the substance was present.
In Medina there was a busy trade in the sewing machines, with buyers seen using mobile phones to check the machines for red mercury content, while it was reported that others had resorted to theft, with two tailors' shops in Dhulum broken into and their sewing machines stolen. At other locales, there were rumors that a Kuwait-based multinational had been buying up the Singer machines, while in Al-Jouf, the residents were led to believe that a local museum was buying up any such machines that it could find, and numerous women appeared at the museum offering to sell their Singer machines.[citation needed]
There was little agreement among believers in the story as to the exact nature or even color of the red mercury, while the supposed uses for it ranged from it being an essential component of nuclear power, to having the ability to summon jinn, extract gold, or locate buried treasure and perform other forms of magic. The official spokesman for the Riyadh police said that the rumors had been started by gangs attempting to swindle people out of their money, and denied the existence of red mercury in sewing machines.[24]

That's quite a lot of dumbassery.


Yeah.  The dumbest part is that red mercury is actually blue to the naked eye.
 
2017-04-14 03:37:43 AM  

TOSViolation: I get it. You hate Jews. I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.


LOL. It's been a while since I've Tatsuma clones here.
 
2017-04-14 04:05:11 AM  

TOSViolation: shpritz: TOSViolation: You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.

Current Israeli law disagrees with your "fact".

Current Native American law says they only have a limited sovereignty over their tiny reservations, but that doesn't mean this entire continent isn't still rightfully theirs.

I get it.  You hate Jews.  I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.


Wait back up a moment. Does Israel have a claim over, say, Kashmir? In my rough experience flipping through atlases, the Middle East kind of ends where the Hindu empires began. But I don't recall any Israeli claim on Kashmir. And the Middle East is a Christian colonial concept, anyways...
 
2017-04-14 04:09:06 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Wait back up a moment. Does Israel have a claim over, say, Kashmir? In my rough experience flipping through atlases, the Middle East kind of ends where the Hindu empires began. But I don't recall any Israeli claim on Kashmir. And the Middle East is a Christian colonial concept, anyways...


Ask Moses.
 
2017-04-14 04:11:19 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.


Given back? When did Israels' borders ever extend over the entire Middle East?
 
2017-04-14 04:14:11 AM  
It's not like Israel couldn't be all over these guys. If, they really wanted to ...
 
2017-04-14 04:15:12 AM  

TOSViolation: shpritz: TOSViolation: You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.

Current Israeli law disagrees with your "fact".

Current Native American law says they only have a limited sovereignty over their tiny reservations, but that doesn't mean this entire continent isn't still rightfully theirs.

I get it.  You hate Jews.  I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.


I'm half-Jewish. I haven't seen any anti-Semetic comments in this thread.
 
2017-04-14 04:15:40 AM  

TOSViolation: Yeah.  The dumbest part is that red mercury is actually blue to the naked eye.

an urban legend.
 
2017-04-14 04:23:24 AM  

The Soupman Cumeth: TOSViolation: shpritz: TOSViolation: You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.

Current Israeli law disagrees with your "fact".

Current Native American law says they only have a limited sovereignty over their tiny reservations, but that doesn't mean this entire continent isn't still rightfully theirs.

I get it.  You hate Jews.  I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.

I'm half-Jewish. I haven't seen any anti-Semetic comments in this thread.


Maybe your eyes aren't on the half that's Jewish.
 
2017-04-14 04:24:34 AM  
With this, the conspiracy theories have completed the mobius reacharound.
 
2017-04-14 04:26:48 AM  

TOSViolation: shpritz: TOSViolation: You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.

Current Israeli law disagrees with your "fact".

Current Native American law says they only have a limited sovereignty over their tiny reservations, but that doesn't mean this entire continent isn't still rightfully theirs.

I get it.  You hate Jews.  I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.


Wait, was he the one you were refering to all the time?

As to your interactions with the KKK, how old are you?
 
2017-04-14 04:29:30 AM  

shpritz: TOSViolation: I get it. You hate Jews. I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.

LOL. It's been a while since I've Tatsuma clones here.


Tatsuma was quite elequent, and coherent. You could follow his argument, and disagree with it or not. Perhaps not have an honest discussion, but regardless.

I have no clue what us going on with TOS. Maybe he's a Syrian plant to make Zionists look like morons? ;)
 
2017-04-14 04:33:05 AM  
Ketchuponsteak:
Tatsuma was quite elequent, and coherent. You could follow his argument, and disagree with it or not. Perhaps not have an honest discussion, but regardless.

He also loved to bring up Native Americans in Israel/Palestine discussions. I think that's what reminded me of him.
 
2017-04-14 04:33:11 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: TOSViolation: shpritz: TOSViolation: You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.

Current Israeli law disagrees with your "fact".

Current Native American law says they only have a limited sovereignty over their tiny reservations, but that doesn't mean this entire continent isn't still rightfully theirs.

I get it.  You hate Jews.  I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.

Wait, was he the one you were refering to all the time?

As to your interactions with the KKK, how old are you?


I'm referring to the people who stand against Israel.  As to my age, a lady doesn't tell, but I'm old enough to recognize blind hatred of Jews and other non-Aryan people.
 
2017-04-14 04:38:16 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: TOSViolation: shpritz: TOSViolation: You can try to rewrite history any way you like, but that does not change the fact that those lands are Israel's lands.

Current Israeli law disagrees with your "fact".

Current Native American law says they only have a limited sovereignty over their tiny reservations, but that doesn't mean this entire continent isn't still rightfully theirs.

I get it.  You hate Jews.  I suppose that's your right, but just warn me if you get some inclination to start herding them into boxcars.

Wait, was he the one you were refering to all the time?

As to your interactions with the KKK, how old are you?

I'm referring to the people who stand against Israel.  As to my age, a lady doesn't tell, but I'm old enough to recognize blind hatred of Jews and other non-Aryan people.


Are you old enough to be senile?
 
2017-04-14 04:41:52 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Are you old enough to be senile?


Not particularly, though there are some rare cases of early onset with things like Huntington's (which I don't have).

There is one group of people I don't hate on, and that's the Jews because they are God's chosen people.  Everyone else is fair game.
 
2017-04-14 04:43:00 AM  

The Soupman Cumeth: TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.

Given back? When did Israels' borders ever extend over the entire Middle East?


More importantly, why should any of it belong to them? The Israelites took their land from the Canaanites. The Romans took it from them. The muslims took it from the Roman successor states. Then the Crusaders. And the Ottomans. And the British. That chunk of land gets passed around so much it should have herpes.
 
2017-04-14 04:50:56 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: The Soupman Cumeth: TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.

Given back? When did Israels' borders ever extend over the entire Middle East?

More importantly, why should any of it belong to them? The Israelites took their land from the Canaanites. The Romans took it from them. The muslims took it from the Roman successor states. Then the Crusaders. And the Ottomans. And the British. That chunk of land gets passed around so much it should have herpes.


You could argue that all of those people already had their own native country to live in (except perhaps the Canaanites, never heard of them, I suspect they didn't). Where as Israel is kinda the only country the Jews have to call their own.
 
2017-04-14 04:59:01 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: The Soupman Cumeth: TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.

Given back? When did Israels' borders ever extend over the entire Middle East?

More importantly, why should any of it belong to them? The Israelites took their land from the Canaanites. The Romans took it from them. The muslims took it from the Roman successor states. Then the Crusaders. And the Ottomans. And the British. That chunk of land gets passed around so much it should have herpes.


Well it does look like healing any time soon...
 
2017-04-14 05:03:19 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Are you old enough to be senile?

Not particularly, though there are some rare cases of early onset with things like Huntington's (which I don't have).

There is one group of people I don't hate on, and that's the Jews because they are God's chosen people.  Everyone else is fair game.


I was wondering if there was any group fo people you didn't hate. Nice to know there IS one.
 
2017-04-14 05:04:58 AM  

TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Are you old enough to be senile?

Not particularly, though there are some rare cases of early onset with things like Huntington's (which I don't have).

There is one group of people I don't hate on, and that's the Jews because they are God's chosen people.  Everyone else is fair game.


I hate that we live in a world where it's impossible to know if someone like this is sincere and crazy, or just being funny on the internet.
 
2017-04-14 05:08:36 AM  
Wednesday morning I see YouTube videos about fidyet toys, by dinner time I see one in the wild. Owner tells ne they've sold a million units. Falling through a reality window would explain both the fidgets and diabolical bruisisng to my arm.
 
2017-04-14 05:10:00 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: The Soupman Cumeth: TOSViolation: Ketchuponsteak: Because Israel really hates when the middle-east has internal problems, thus not having the resources to hassle Israel. And they also hate how it takes the worlds eyes away from them expanding on the West-bank.

Why should anyone care about Israel building up their lands on the west bank?  In a just world, Israel would be given back the entire middle east.

Given back? When did Israels' borders ever extend over the entire Middle East?

More importantly, why should any of it belong to them? The Israelites took their land from the Canaanites. The Romans took it from them. The muslims took it from the Roman successor states. Then the Crusaders. And the Ottomans. And the British. That chunk of land gets passed around so much it should have herpes.

You could argue that all of those people already had their own native country to live in (except perhaps the Canaanites, never heard of them, I suspect they didn't). Where as Israel is kinda the only country the Jews have to call their own.


Well, yes, you could argue that. But the contemporary Jewish people (insofar as a single Jewish people existed in the late 1940s) were pretty far removed from the inhabitants of ancient Judea. A Jewish state could've been established in the Falkland Islands for all it mattered.

And the world might be a bit more peaceful if it had, aside from the occasional hilarity of Argentina getting its ass kicked.

/trying to rewrite millennia-old history using the tools of modern-day statecraft is a bad idea
 
2017-04-14 05:12:18 AM  
I love fark Israel threads. Always good for the entertains.
 
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