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(Wikipedia)   Fourteen years ago today, the US invaded a sovereign nation for the lulz. Still, seems like everything worked out ok   ( en.wikipedia.org) divider line
    More: Followup, Iraq, Saddam Hussein, United States, George W. Bush, Security Council, 2003 invasion of Iraq, Iraq War, Iraq Liberation Act  
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2017-03-20 12:57:53 PM  
Canada?  I thought operation Canadian Bacon occurred 22 years ago.

/Well, sir, we're not going to re-open missile factories just to fight some creeps running around in exploding rental cars, are we, sir?
 
2017-03-20 01:11:34 PM  
They never got a chance to use those WMDs.  Total success.
 
2017-03-20 01:19:09 PM  
Hillary Clinton Iraq War Full Speech 10/10/02 Part 1
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2017-03-20 01:37:34 PM  
Iraq, Grenada, Panama, Hawaii, Nicaragua... I'm sure there's more... every Indian Reservation where we found gold/oil...
 
2017-03-20 01:38:05 PM  
I mean, *I*, personally am not dead. So we have that going for us.
 
2017-03-20 01:40:04 PM  
History will judge...

Remember when Team Bush were reduced to using that as an excuse after pretty much everyone figured out what a truly disastrous idea that war was?

Good times.
 
2017-03-20 01:58:13 PM  
Best wishes, America!

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2017-03-20 02:19:41 PM  
#ArabSpring
 
2017-03-20 02:26:05 PM  
I was 14 at the time, so I'm feeling pretty old.
 
2017-03-20 02:27:43 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: I was 14 at the time, so I'm feeling pretty old.


I've lived through two Iraq adventures.  And the first one was when I was in college.  Imagine how I feel!
 
2017-03-20 02:31:19 PM  

Diogenes: Bith Set Me Up: I was 14 at the time, so I'm feeling pretty old.

I've lived through two Iraq adventures.  And the first one was when I was in college.  Imagine how I feel!


And I'm on my 3rd...
 
2017-03-20 02:33:33 PM  
For who, Halliburton?  Kalashnikov Corporation?
 
2017-03-20 02:34:54 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Diogenes: Bith Set Me Up: I was 14 at the time, so I'm feeling pretty old.

I've lived through two Iraq adventures.  And the first one was when I was in college.  Imagine how I feel!

And I'm on my 3rd...


We've had three?  How old ARE you?  ;-)

Kidding of course.  But seriously, when was the other one?  Or are you maybe talking about personal deployments?

/born in '69
 
2017-03-20 02:36:21 PM  
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2017-03-20 02:40:59 PM  

Diogenes: Ow! That was my feelings!: Diogenes: Bith Set Me Up: I was 14 at the time, so I'm feeling pretty old.

I've lived through two Iraq adventures.  And the first one was when I was in college.  Imagine how I feel!

And I'm on my 3rd...

We've had three?  How old ARE you?  ;-)

Kidding of course.  But seriously, when was the other one?  Or are you maybe talking about personal deployments?

/born in '69


Gulf War, Iraq War, ISIS War.
Guessing you are counting the last two as the same war.
 
2017-03-20 02:41:18 PM  

Shostie: I mean, *I*, personally am not dead. So we have that going for us.


Its only a matter of time
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2017-03-20 02:42:44 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Diogenes: Ow! That was my feelings!: Diogenes: Bith Set Me Up: I was 14 at the time, so I'm feeling pretty old.

I've lived through two Iraq adventures.  And the first one was when I was in college.  Imagine how I feel!

And I'm on my 3rd...

We've had three?  How old ARE you?  ;-)

Kidding of course.  But seriously, when was the other one?  Or are you maybe talking about personal deployments?

/born in '69

Gulf War, Iraq War, ISIS War.
Guessing you are counting the last two as the same war.


More subconsciously than anything I guess.  Three it is.
 
2017-03-20 03:17:29 PM  
I loved those toys when I was a kid.  The GI Joe Mobile Bio Weapons Lab with Chemical Destro was awesome.
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2017-03-20 03:25:04 PM  
I remember this site was launched around the time of the invasion, with stats showing numbers of lives lost (both civilian and military) and weapons of mass destruction found (permanently at zero).  Now, it just details the costs.

http://iraqometer.com/
 
2017-03-20 03:26:44 PM  

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2017-03-20 03:33:53 PM  

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If unadulterated, direct information straight from a primary relevant source is now considered bait, what is the use of any kind of discussion?
 
2017-03-20 03:35:32 PM  
This article may be too long to read


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2017-03-20 03:37:33 PM  

GanjSmokr: This article may be too long to readI have the attention span of a gnat.


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2017-03-20 03:38:16 PM  

HedlessChickn: FlashHarry: HedlessChickn: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/4wyCBF5CsCA - 480x360]

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If unadulterated, direct information straight from a primary relevant source is now considered bait, what is the use of any kind of discussion?


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2017-03-20 03:41:12 PM  

HedlessChickn: GanjSmokr: This article may be too long to readI have the attention span of a gnat.


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Maybe a little more attention span than tha... SQUIRREL!!!
 
2017-03-20 03:59:43 PM  
the gulf war never ended.  fighter squadrons have been on bombing sorties in the middle east since 1990.
 
2017-03-20 04:09:01 PM  

craigzy: the gulf war never ended.  fighter squadrons have been on bombing sorties in the middle east since 1990.


We will get that Osama guy eventually, have faith.

And that Saddam guy, he's next on our list, dontcha worry, boyo.

/sigh
 
2017-03-20 04:16:07 PM  
And after this FAIL the same mouth breathing dumbasses who have now given us Trump went out in force to reelect GWB instead of a competent person because reasons. Then they got all excited about Palin (though we thankfully side stepped that). But they totes voted for Trump to punish libs for being condensending towards them, not because they are a bunch of inferior morons who get excited about electing idiots.
 
2017-03-20 04:35:37 PM  
Ow! That was my feelings!:

Gulf War, Iraq War, ISIS War.
Guessing you are counting the last two as the same war.


I consider it the same war if it is being fought under the same authorization.  I have no idea what legal basis deployments are under for ISIS killing, though.  If it is the Iraqi AUMF, then I'd call it the same war.  If it is some other authorization (NATO, etc..) then I'd call it a different war.
 
2017-03-20 04:41:11 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Diogenes: Ow! That was my feelings!: Diogenes: Bith Set Me Up: I was 14 at the time, so I'm feeling pretty old.

I've lived through two Iraq adventures.  And the first one was when I was in college.  Imagine how I feel!

And I'm on my 3rd...

We've had three?  How old ARE you?  ;-)

Kidding of course.  But seriously, when was the other one?  Or are you maybe talking about personal deployments?

/born in '69

Gulf War, Iraq War, ISIS War.
Guessing you are counting the last two as the same war.


You could count the first two as the same, since all we had was a cease fire from the first war and Iraq was repeatedly violating it.

I don't agree with invading it again, mind you, but let's not lie to make shrub look worse. He looks bad enough on his own.
 
2017-03-20 04:44:35 PM  

kbronsito: And after this FAIL the same mouth breathing dumbasses who have now given us Trump went out in force to reelect GWB instead of a competent person because reasons. Then they got all excited about Palin (though we thankfully side stepped that). But they totes voted for Trump to punish libs for being condensending towards them, not because they are a bunch of inferior morons who get excited about electing idiots.


Your problem is that the way that you talk about them is why they are motivated to outvote the candidates you like.  See the reaction to the "deplorables" statement.  Go ahead and keep providing bulletin board material for them, it only feeds them further.

That doesn't mean that they choose the election, either.  The candidates matter the most.  Kerry and Romney were about as boring and milquetoast as you get and there was no way they could challenge a reelection campaign against an incumbent who was popular with their base that elected them the first time.
 
2017-03-20 04:45:15 PM  
The biggest issue I have with the Iraq war, the reasons for such notwithstanding and lies thereof, is the fact that we are now at war with an "idea." It's all so non-descript now. ISIS/ISIL/Al Qaeda/Taliban/Radical Islamic Terrorists, etc. The terms are now just as malleable as calling it a war on Drugs/Crime/Poverty, whatever. It is whatever the PTB decide they need it to be at any point in time. When you can't properly define a thing, it is impossible to fight that, and even moreso to know when it has been defeated.

It's all so intentionally confusing. Not for those of us who understand these things, to be sure, but to those who can't think their way out of a paper bag. (Which this past election proves is a whole HELL of a lot of people.)

It's the perfect excuse for unending perpetual overseas war.

I may be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure Ike warned us about this type of this happening if we let our guard down.
 
2017-03-20 04:49:06 PM  

Rent Party: Ow! That was my feelings!:

Gulf War, Iraq War, ISIS War.
Guessing you are counting the last two as the same war.

I consider it the same war if it is being fought under the same authorization.  I have no idea what legal basis deployments are under for ISIS killing, though.  If it is the Iraqi AUMF, then I'd call it the same war.  If it is some other authorization (NATO, etc..) then I'd call it a different war.


Fair enough. I personally consider them 3 different conflicts for obvious reasons. But ultimately, all 3 are just different versions of the same stupid war.
 
2017-03-20 05:10:16 PM  
Once we declared our independence in 1776 we had a bigly successful, unfettered, perfect democracy in place with zero issues for more than 200 years. Why can't middle eastern countries get their shiat together?
 
2017-03-20 05:32:38 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Rent Party: Ow! That was my feelings!:

Gulf War, Iraq War, ISIS War.
Guessing you are counting the last two as the same war.

I consider it the same war if it is being fought under the same authorization.  I have no idea what legal basis deployments are under for ISIS killing, though.  If it is the Iraqi AUMF, then I'd call it the same war.  If it is some other authorization (NATO, etc..) then I'd call it a different war.

Fair enough. I personally consider them 3 different conflicts for obvious reasons. But ultimately, all 3 are just different versions of the same stupid war.


From a practical standpoint, yeah.  No one cares what law authorized that bullet that just flew by their heads.  From a legal standpoint, it's different.  Gulf 1 was fought under a UN Resolution.  Gulf II was fought under a US Congressional resolution (which is why "It's the same war!" arguments are dumb, and fail) and NATO finally took over Afghanistan.

I'm gonna go look up and see what authorizations has us in Syria.  My guess is it's some "Advisors" bullshiat claimed by "commander in chief" and war powers acts.
 
2017-03-20 09:22:10 PM  

farkstorm: Once we declared our independence in 1776 we had a bigly successful, unfettered, perfect democracy in place with zero issues for more than 200 years. Why can't middle eastern countries get their shiat together?


Religion/ Power...
 
2017-03-20 09:30:57 PM  

farkstorm: Once we declared our independence in 1776 we had a bigly successful, unfettered, perfect democracy in place with zero issues for more than 200 years. Why can't middle eastern countries get their shiat together?


Iran had a democratic government, but thanks to Operation Ajax, we helped overthrow its leader who wouldn't whore out his homeland and installed a tinpot dictator who would. And Iranians hated him so much that they brought back their long-banished fundies to help force him out. Thus, leading to the Iranian theocracy that exists today.

And because Iran hated us, we supported Saddam Hussein in his war with them, and, well, you know how his story ended.

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2017-03-20 09:38:48 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: farkstorm: Once we declared our independence in 1776 we had a bigly successful, unfettered, perfect democracy in place with zero issues for more than 200 years. Why can't middle eastern countries get their shiat together?

Iran had a democratic government, but thanks to Operation Ajax, we helped overthrow its leader who wouldn't whore out his homeland and installed a tinpot dictator who would. And Iranians hated him so much that they brought back their long-banished fundies to help force him out. Thus, leading to the Iranian theocracy that exists today.

And because Iran hated us, we supported Saddam Hussein in his war with them, and, well, you know how his story ended.


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2017-03-21 07:25:56 AM  
Fourteen years ago today, the US invaded a sovereign nation

Sovereignty - the tyrant's magical get-away-with-genocide card. Use whatever other reasoning you want to have opposed the war, but "it's okay long as he's only doing it to his own people" is odious.

Saddam long ago forfeited any sovereignty defense. He bought his button many times over (with and without our bipartisan help, going all the way back to JFK). He earned his trip to the end of a rope, which is more than what usually happens to those who pillage their nations and commit genocide.
 
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