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(ABC News)   Hey, let's give speeding ticket money to folks who obey the speed limit. BRILLIANT   ( abcnews.go.com) divider line
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2017-03-20 05:53:48 PM  
9 votes:
"The idea? Put a speed monitor on a busy highway. But instead of simply ticketing the fastest drivers, the monitor would capture an image of the license plates of the drivers who obey the speed limit, then enter them into a lottery."

So now we are creating a database of the people who are obeying the law?
2017-03-20 12:42:46 PM  
6 votes:
Actually... that is brilliant!
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2017-03-20 02:48:07 PM  
4 votes:
Instead of the jurisdictions that currently mine that cash flow?
Ya shure, you betcha ya dumb ass.
2017-03-20 01:27:42 PM  
4 votes:
Self driving cars will have an unfair advantage.
2017-03-20 05:59:07 PM  
3 votes:

HoratioGates: "The idea? Put a speed monitor on a busy highway. But instead of simply ticketing the fastest drivers, the monitor would capture an image of the license plates of the drivers who obey the speed limit, then enter them into a lottery."

So now we are creating a database of the people who are obeying the law?


They were doing it before.
2017-03-20 03:53:12 PM  
3 votes:
Sure. You have a 1 in a trillion chance of winning money if you follow the speed limit. But my odds of having fun blasting down the highway at triple-digit speeds are much, much greater.
2017-03-21 01:21:36 AM  
2 votes:

Mister Peejay: The only people who obey the speed limit are drunks, people with no license/insurance, people with outstanding warrants, and people with trunks full of drugs.


I can tell you definitively, from first hand knowledge, that this is incorrect.

Drunks THINK they are holding the speed limit but really tend to slow down and speed up a lot while driving. Their speed on a graph would look like a sound wave.

People with licence, insurance or warrant issues tend to only modify their driving when they suspect there's a cop nearby, and they will take extra turns of their route to avoid the attention of that cop. Last-second right turn decisions are actually a key indicator.  So is a male 18-40 driving a vehicle registered to a woman. Sexist, but statistically valid.

A large number of drivers diligently follow speed limits within a very few mph for no other reason than its the law.  There are also those (like me, to be honest) who know that even photo radar won't tag you at 5-7mph (8-10km) over unless it's a school zone. We tend to make good use of that cushion.

Want to know some REAL tricks to avoiding tickets?  Okay.
-Don't be the fastest car in a pack.
-Avoid the left lane...It's the first one looked at by the guy with the laser as to crest the hill.
-Keep your speed within the lowest violation threshold.  In most provinces that's anything less than 10 mph or 16 km over.  The smaller ticket isn't usually worth it.
-Slow down at night.  Especially outside the city, its the statistically most dangerous time to speed, so the tolerance is lower.
-Dont tailgate or lane-hop. Aggression such as filling up the mirrors of the slowpoke in front of you draws attention to you and very quickly evaporates any chance of a warning.
-Use your cruise control. Any time I'm on a freeway or highway, even in the city, I use it to help me avoid fluctuations in my speed.

Finally, theost important piece of advice: NEVER pay a ticket outright. Always plead not guilty, request Discovery and a trial.  Even if you're caught dead to rights you have a fair chance the officer will either be unavailable for court or the prosecution will offer a reduced charge with a smaller fine on the day of the hearing. (Recently I got one reduced from a proper speeding ticket down to a photo radar charge. Less money, no demerits and doesn't impact my insurance. Just by showing up.) If you can spare the time off work, it is almost always going to at least save you SOME money.

Happy driving!
2017-03-20 07:18:04 PM  
2 votes:

HoratioGates: "The idea? Put a speed monitor on a busy highway. But instead of simply ticketing the fastest drivers, the monitor would capture an image of the license plates of the drivers who obey the speed limit, then enter them into a lottery."

So now we are creating a database of the people who are obeying the law?


Yup, only took 6 posts.  Glad to see that Americans are still pants-wettingly scared of the Big Bad Gubmint. Never change, folks, you're too adorable as you are.
2017-03-20 06:41:49 PM  
2 votes:
How about we raise the speed limits to a level that actually represents what a large percentile of the population actually drives, and then crack down on far more dangerous behaviors (tailgating, distracted driving, failing to signal).

That way

1. Left lane sitters feel justified sitting in the #1 lane because they're "doing the speed limit".

2. People won't suddenly start driving nervously and unnaturally the second a police vehicle gets on the freeway.

// Here's a snippet from the CALTRANS freeway monitor.
// these are the average speeds across a 5 lane freeway.
// The speed limit on this stretch is 65 mph
// Once people pass the truck scales/checkpoint (read, heavy police presence) ... the average speed jumps up to 70+

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2017-03-20 06:28:48 PM  
2 votes:
My city tried this many years ago. If the police saw you do something 'good' like yield to a pedestrian, drive in a safe manner or whatever, they'd pull up behind you, hit the lights, pull you over and give you a free movie ticket.

It was cancelled because people hated the feeling of fear that raced through you when you saw lights flashing behind you. Not cool. Lasted about a month before the police gave up due to complaints.
2017-03-20 06:21:09 PM  
2 votes:
So they want to track the movements of law abiding citizens without a warrant and without probable cause... in the name of entering them into a lottery?
2017-03-20 06:04:50 PM  
2 votes:
I swear I am the only person who drives the absolute speed limit +/- 1-2 mph at all times without extenuating circumstances. I feel like the square guy from Dragnet.
2017-03-20 06:00:53 PM  
2 votes:
By SARAH NETTER
Dec. 8, 2010

A story so old it's new again.
2017-03-21 07:28:58 PM  
1 vote:

vudukungfu: I'm OK with using the door on crotch rockets splitting lanes.


Not ok. NOT OK.
2017-03-21 08:34:19 AM  
1 vote:

capt.hollister: Highroller48:
-Keep your speed within the lowest violation threshold.  In most provinces that's anything less than 10 mph or 16 km over.  The smaller ticket isn't usually worth it.

That threshold exists mostly because it falls within the error range of most car speedometers. Speedometers are not precision instruments.


Hmm.

That's a bit misleading, because inaccurate speedometers aren't usually an actual defense.  You're required to keep your car in good repair.  That's why there isn't any legal "allowance" for speeding...One of the most common urban myths of them all.

Just like many crimes have degrees, so does speeding in most places, and for the same reasons
2017-03-20 08:05:15 PM  
1 vote:
I came here to suggest the idea implied by JNowe: Rather than use this as an excuse to track people's movements (or what might be perceived that way), just set the recipient pool as the set of people with vehicles registered in the state minus the set of people whose DMV records reflect convictions for speeding (and/or, perhaps, for other moving violations that they want to discourage) with offense dates within the relevant time frame and award it to one or more persons chosen randomly from that set.
2017-03-20 06:32:39 PM  
1 vote:

HoratioGates: "The idea? Put a speed monitor on a busy highway. But instead of simply ticketing the fastest drivers, the monitor would capture an image of the license plates of the drivers who obey the speed limit, then enter them into a lottery."

So now we are creating a database of the people who are obeying the law?


Traffic cameras are already doing this. When you're out and about you have no privacy.
2017-03-20 06:28:32 PM  
1 vote:
No need for lotteries, I get a payback every time I fill up.
 
Since I got my GLK 250 Bluetec diesel three years ago, I've undergone a bit of a transformation. With this ridiculously economical SUV, the real fun challenge is to beat my previous low fuel consumption. My self-imposed rule is that I cannot become a moving traffic chicane, which means doing at least the speed limit, but usually more. So far I've managed to average 5,4L/100KM (45mpg in US gallons/52mpg in real gallons) on a 130km night run from Québec's Eastern Townships. As a bonus, the last time I renewed my driver's license was the first time since I started driving in the 1970s that I had no extra charges because of accumulated demerit points

My Honda Valkyrie motorcycle uses more fuel than my SUV...
2017-03-20 06:10:03 PM  
1 vote:
But if we give ticket money to the citizens, how can we afford our toys?

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2017-03-20 05:59:26 PM  
1 vote:

HoratioGates: So now we are creating a database of the people who are obeying the law?


It sure as hell has to be easier than creating a database of those who aren't.
 
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