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(Entertainment Weekly)   A recap of "The Other Side," another middling episode of The Walking Dead that nevertheless managed to have a few important character building moments with Maggie, Daryl, Jesus, and even Sasha, though she acted incredibly stupid [WARNING: SPOILERS]   ( ew.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Maggie, The Hilltop, Villain, Sasha, Walk This Way, Aerosmith, Hilltop colony training, Actor Tom Payne  
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2017-03-20 09:51:04 AM  
god, this show is just so farking boooooooring. it feels as if every episode is simply exposition or buildup to some flashy finale, with zero action until the final episode. I mean, can we *please* get at least one major Savior killed to give us some satisfaction for Glenn, Abraham and the kid?
 
2017-03-20 10:23:24 AM  

FlashHarry: god, this show is just so farking boooooooring. it feels as if every episode is simply exposition or buildup to some flashy finale, with zero action until the final episode. I mean, can we *please* get at least one major Savior killed to give us some satisfaction for Glenn, Abraham and the kid?


We got Fat Joey. What more do you want?
 
2017-03-20 02:42:32 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: FlashHarry: god, this show is just so farking boooooooring. it feels as if every episode is simply exposition or buildup to some flashy finale, with zero action until the final episode. I mean, can we *please* get at least one major Savior killed to give us some satisfaction for Glenn, Abraham and the kid?

We got Fat Joey. What more do you want?


Fat Joey was a Saint!
 
2017-03-20 03:25:41 PM  
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2017-03-20 03:41:02 PM  
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I used to love this show. The first few seasons were amazing, but I can't even watch it anymore. It's gotta take some serious effort to make a zombie show so boring.  I wouldn't comment on it -- normally I do refrain from "Stop liking what I don't like" comments, but... is it really necessary to have a daily fark thread about it?
 
2017-03-20 03:53:22 PM  
It's getting to the point where I wish The Kingdom would attack Hilltop instead.  I just hate everybody there.
 
2017-03-20 04:01:18 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: FlashHarry: god, this show is just so farking boooooooring. it feels as if every episode is simply exposition or buildup to some flashy finale, with zero action until the final episode. I mean, can we *please* get at least one major Savior killed to give us some satisfaction for Glenn, Abraham and the kid?

We got Fat Joey. What more do you want?


Jerry splitting walker heads with his axe.
 
2017-03-20 04:08:38 PM  
 
2017-03-20 04:10:27 PM  
A big problem in my opinion has been that the once-fearsome zombies have become an incidental, minor nuisance, like being on the slowest line at Whole Foods checkout or getting a paper cut opening a bonus check envelope. People kill walkers mid-conversation without breaking stride.
 
2017-03-20 04:23:42 PM  
Last night's episode was okay, but nothing special.  That's how it's been for most of the season (except for the season premiere... that was great). Based on the comics, "march to war" was the part I was worried about being interesting enough to not have viewers cry about how "boring" the show is. There's not much you can do with this part of the comic.

The next season has no excuses if it's not stellar though. Season 9 too
 
2017-03-20 04:36:45 PM  

carrion_luggage: A big problem in my opinion has been that the once-fearsome zombies have become an incidental, minor nuisance, like being on the slowest line at Whole Foods checkout or getting a paper cut opening a bonus check envelope. People kill walkers mid-conversation without breaking stride.


That's the point of the whole damn show. At some point the masses of zombies are going to weaken/decay without a food source. The apocalypse is over. Humanity is adjusting to the "new normal". The bigger threat is each other.
 
2017-03-20 04:44:34 PM  
Someone commented recently, the season opener, mid-season finale, mis-season opener, and season finale are good, big episodes.  Everything between is painfully stretched out across far more episodes than should be used to tell the story.

I agree.  The entirety of last night's episode could have been condensed down to 20 minutes in a tighter episode.

I'm no longer able to look past the fake danger and fake drama.  Rosita and Sasha setting a car on fire as a distraction might make sense - in a situation where it wouldn't be easier, faster, and safer to just kill the walkers through the fence.  That sequence last night was lame.

To my eye, the show has gone from characters doing absurdly stupid things to create DRAMA! DANGER! SUSPENSE! to characters doing absurdly stupid things which completely fail to create drama, danger, or suspense, because the characters are obviously going to make it to the next scene.
 
2017-03-20 04:45:05 PM  
Yeah last nights was pretty boring. The whole Sasha and Rosita being eternally angry, angst filled scorned women grew tiresome some time ago. You're mad and you hate the world, we get it.
 
2017-03-20 04:46:17 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: FlashHarry: god, this show is just so farking boooooooring. it feels as if every episode is simply exposition or buildup to some flashy finale, with zero action until the final episode. I mean, can we *please* get at least one major Savior killed to give us some satisfaction for Glenn, Abraham and the kid?

We got Fat Joey. What more do you want?


Hush it! I loved Fat Joey.

Damnit Daryl. >:(

And if a major Savior needs to go, please let it be Simon first. He's annoying just to look at.
 
2017-03-20 04:47:26 PM  

PlaidJaguar: Rosita and Sasha setting a car on fire as a distraction might make sense - in a situation where it wouldn't be easier, faster, and safer to just kill the walkers through the fence. That sequence last night was lame.


It didn't even work. As soon at they went in to get a car, all the walkers turned around and went after them.
Worst distraction ever.
 
2017-03-20 04:50:42 PM  
snowjack I used to love this show. The first few seasons were amazing, but I can't even watch it anymore.

It's excruciating 'thirtysomething with zombies' how one guy put it-we now have a drinking game called TWD ZombieClock-last night's episode took TWENTY-FIVE MINUTES til the 1st Zombie appearance.

Darabont was a genius, they shot themselves in the foothead when they played Palace Politics with him. Supposedly Robert Kirkman's story sense is triggered completely by social media, he demanded Lori Grimes be killed because of all the Internet memes about fans were tired of her character...

then there's Chris Hardwick @ Maximum Fanboy after they shove an Into The Badlands out there. God bless Him
 
2017-03-20 04:51:08 PM  

abhorrent1: PlaidJaguar: Rosita and Sasha setting a car on fire as a distraction might make sense - in a situation where it wouldn't be easier, faster, and safer to just kill the walkers through the fence. That sequence last night was lame.

It didn't even work. As soon at they went in to get a car, all the walkers turned around and went after them.
Worst distraction ever.


Never attack a zombie hoard when menstruating .
 
2017-03-20 04:51:17 PM  

GardenWeasel: That's the point of the whole damn show. At some point the masses of zombies are going to weaken/decay without a food source. The apocalypse is over. Humanity is adjusting to the "new normal". The bigger threat is each other.


And for those paying attention (like you), that's pretty much been the premise of the show since the second season.  Aside from giant herds that are too large to take down, or being trapped by smaller groups of zombies, they're easy to pick off.  Anyone still alive has developed the survival skills necessary to make it in this world, even if those survival skills involve being a gardener in a place like the Kingdom, where you provide food in exchange for protection. Some people are still going to be taken down by a random lone zombie, just as some people in our world are going to die in car wrecks every day, despite the vast majority of us getting to our destinations safely.

This many seasons into the show, I find it odd that this concept still needs to be explained.
 
2017-03-20 04:59:01 PM  

snowjack: [weknowmemes.com image 400x312]

I used to love this show. The first few seasons were amazing, but I can't even watch it anymore. It's gotta take some serious effort to make a zombie show so boring.  I wouldn't comment on it -- normally I do refrain from "Stop liking what I don't like" comments, but... is it really necessary to have a daily fark thread about it?


I must have missed the daily threads. All I saw were the one from last night and the one from today, which they have every week.
 
2017-03-20 04:59:13 PM  
I hope "though she acted incredibly stupid" isn't the spoiler, because every week the episode synopsis on my TiVo reads "Someone does something incredibly stupid."
 
2017-03-20 05:02:32 PM  
I'm very disappointed in Eugene and those two women.
 
2017-03-20 05:10:57 PM  
Every week people post on here how they don't care. This "not caring" is shown by people posting comments, which means popularity in the eyes of modmitters who approve these threads. which means the show they don't care about will continue to get threads because the continue to "not care" about them.

Yeah, I don't care about Sasha and Rosita at this point, so I too did not enjoy this episode.
 
2017-03-20 05:16:27 PM  
Actually, I think I enjoyed last night's Talking Dead more than last night's Walking Dead.

Christian Serratos was looking lovely on the couch, Steven Ogg was cool, and I enjoyed what he had to say, and Josh McDermitt popping up at the end was fun.
 
2017-03-20 05:23:50 PM  

FlyingJ: snowjack I used to love this show. The first few seasons were amazing, but I can't even watch it anymore.

It's excruciating 'thirtysomething with zombies' how one guy put it-we now have a drinking game called TWD ZombieClock-last night's episode took TWENTY-FIVE MINUTES til the 1st Zombie appearance.

Darabont was a genius, they shot themselves in the foothead when they played Palace Politics with him. Supposedly Robert Kirkman's story sense is triggered completely by social media, he demanded Lori Grimes be killed because of all the Internet memes about fans were tired of her character...

then there's Chris Hardwick @ Maximum Fanboy after they shove an Into The Badlands out there. God bless Him


Weird that show Lori died at the same time and place comic Lori died.
 
2017-03-20 05:25:16 PM  
I love how all of you still watch a show you claim to hate just so you can complain about it on the Internet.

 
2017-03-20 05:28:32 PM  

Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: I love how all of you still watch a show you claim to hate just so you can complain about it on the Internet.

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Point of order, I have never claimed to hate the show.

I am beginning to enjoy it less, but if that continues, I'll simply stop watching (and stop participating in Fark threads).

Hate takes energy.  Anybody who hates a TV show is wasting energy.  I save my hate for things that matter.
 
2017-03-20 05:37:22 PM  

PlaidJaguar: Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: I love how all of you still watch a show you claim to hate just so you can complain about it on the Internet.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/l_xu8f43QUk - 480x360]

Point of order, I have never claimed to hate the show.

I am beginning to enjoy it less, but if that continues, I'll simply stop watching (and stop participating in Fark threads).

Hate takes energy.  Anybody who hates a TV show is wasting energy.  I save my hate for things that matter.


Actually the last couple of show threads have been surprisingly free of the "OMG THIS SHOW SUCKS!" people. There's usually always one though.

I still enjoy the show. Last nights episode was pretty lame though. I just wish it would move a little faster. Really didn't need an hour of Sasha and Rosita talking about their feelings. Unless of course it ended in a sex scene.
 
2017-03-20 05:51:09 PM  
As much interest as people are losing, in 2 weeks the finale will be great and leave us  counting the days until October.
 
2017-03-20 06:03:02 PM  

natural316: As much interest as people are losing, in 2 weeks the finale will be great and leave us  counting the days until October.


You forgetting "Fear The Walking Dead".
 
2017-03-20 06:10:53 PM  

mcreadyblue: natural316: As much interest as people are losing, in 2 weeks the finale will be great and leave us  counting the days until October.

You forgetting "Fear The Walking Dead".


No I'm not
 
2017-03-20 06:16:08 PM  

natural316: mcreadyblue: natural316: As much interest as people are losing, in 2 weeks the finale will be great and leave us  counting the days until October.

You forgetting "Fear The Walking Dead".

No I'm not


I think the next season takes place entirely inside that tunnel.
 
2017-03-20 06:40:31 PM  

mcreadyblue: natural316: mcreadyblue: natural316: As much interest as people are losing, in 2 weeks the finale will be great and leave us  counting the days until October.

You forgetting "Fear The Walking Dead".

No I'm not

I think the next season takes place entirely inside that tunnel.


Lemmiwinks? That oughta be interesting.
 
2017-03-20 06:41:38 PM  
I have this episode on DVR. Do I need to bother?
 
2017-03-20 06:46:58 PM  
Old Man WinterWeird that show Lori died at the same time and place comic Lori died.

meh-I'll concede your point when Rick loses his right hand...
 
2017-03-20 06:54:45 PM  

mcreadyblue: natural316: As much interest as people are losing, in 2 weeks the finale will be great and leave us  counting the days until October.

You forgetting "Fear The Walking Dead".


I tried to like it. Couldn't.
 
2017-03-20 06:58:46 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I have this episode on DVR. Do I need to bother?


Yes. There are important plot points that will come up later.
 
2017-03-20 07:02:38 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: I have this episode on DVR. Do I need to bother?


Meh. Throw it on while you're cooking supper or something perhaps?
 
2017-03-20 07:20:35 PM  

FlyingJ: Old Man WinterWeird that show Lori died at the same time and place comic Lori died.

meh-I'll concede your point when Rick loses his right hand...


http://comicbook.com/2015/10/07/andrew-lincoln-campaigned-for-rick-gr​i​mes-to-lose-his-hand/
 
2017-03-20 08:29:58 PM  

abhorrent1: I still enjoy the show. Last nights episode was pretty lame though. I just wish it would move a little faster. Really didn't need an hour of Sasha and Rosita talking about their feelings. Unless of course it ended in a sex scene.


Same here. I really enjoyed the Eugene episode (i thought it was great, actually), wasn't in love with the Rick/Michonne getting it on all over episode, but... yeah.  Last night, we had a hard time with the nothing happening of the whole thing.  People are all JESUS IS GAY?  Well, guess you never read the comics.  Yes, yes he is.  It's almost like even if the world mostly ended, gay people would still exist.  The biggest part of last night was (a) Eugene is absolutely in Negan's camp and (b) Maggie is apparently, according to people who know about this shiat, very pregnant and doesn't look it.

The timeline is confusing though, so who knows? We could have have watched five weeks over the whole past season, since they split everyone up instead of skipping between stories like other how-long shows like "Dexter", "True Blood", "Homeland,", "Oz", "The Wire," "Preacher", "Breaking Bad," "Sons of Anarcy", "American Horror Story", etc etc etc.  It could be less than five weeks since the Saviors made multiple visits to Hlltop (noting sooner than usual) and went to the Kingdom twice to get the missing melon.
 
2017-03-20 08:52:24 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Every week people post on here how they don't care. This "not caring" is shown by people posting comments, which means popularity in the eyes of modmitters who approve these threads. which means the show they don't care about will continue to get threads because the continue to "not care" about them.

Yeah, I don't care about Sasha and Rosita at this point, so I too did not enjoy this episode.


I didn't even watch it, that's how little I care.  Thought I'd let everyone know.
 
2017-03-20 09:15:07 PM  

Mind of the North Star: Last night's episode was okay, but nothing special.  That's how it's been for most of the season (except for the season premiere... that was great). Based on the comics, "march to war" was the part I was worried about being interesting enough to not have viewers cry about how "boring" the show is. There's not much you can do with this part of the comic.

The next season has no excuses if it's not stellar though. Season 9 too


Yeah I was concerned too as that part of the comic is by far the worst in its run so far.

People are going to be pissed though when it all shakes down.
 
2017-03-20 09:19:14 PM  
So did everyone have exactly the same reaction to the Jesus reveal?  "Good. Now kill off Eric and pair Jesus up with Aaron.  Or don't, as long as you just kill Eric."
 
2017-03-20 09:34:56 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: So did everyone have exactly the same reaction to the Jesus reveal?  "Good. Now kill off Eric and pair Jesus up with Aaron.  Or don't, as long as you just kill Eric."


I never read the comics so I didn't know he was gay.  Doesn't matter though cause he's still a bad-ass ninja dude. I agree that Eric is kind of annoying though.
 
2017-03-20 09:38:03 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: So did everyone have exactly the same reaction to the Jesus reveal?  "Good. Now kill off Eric and pair Jesus up with Aaron.  Or don't, as long as you just kill Eric."


I had the same reaction that I have whenever I find out someone is gay. Don't care. Hope you find happiness.
 
2017-03-20 09:43:29 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Every week people post on here how they don't care. This "not caring" is shown by people posting comments, which means popularity in the eyes of modmitters who approve these threads. which means the show they don't care about will continue to get threads because the continue to "not care" about them.

Yeah, I don't care about Sasha and Rosita at this point, so I too did not enjoy this episode.


And the irony is Lost on many people...
 
2017-03-21 12:55:19 AM  
I think what's making this season seem so slow is that they've fallen back to "On The Farm" storytelling, where they focus on a character or single event each episode, and then the following week they roll back time and show another character or single event that was occurring at the same time as the last episode. What this means is that the story is staying in the same place for weeks at a time, not moving forward because they keep rewinding to tell a different point of view during the same time period.

Sometimes, in the middle of this, they'll advance a little bit. Just a little. Just enough to not rewind 100%, but maybe only 80% the next week. Sometimes they'll even go forward naturally, just for a break, but most of this season has been groups of several episodes taking place nearly-simultaneously, and that has just dragged the pace down.

The related problem is that they do have all these simultaneous story lines going on, but unlike Game of Thrones, they can't get the pacing right and jump between different stories in ONE episode. They feel this need to focus on ONE story line per episode, maybe two, and again this drags it down and makes people watching the show wondering when they'll get to see the characters they like again. Will it be this week? Next week? Three weeks from now? Will I ever see that character again?

The showrunners are, quite simply, farking up. From a story-telling perspective they're doing it in the slowest, most boring, ass-dragging way possible. I still like the show, but they're killing my enthusiasm with this pacing.
 
2017-03-21 04:56:05 AM  

WilderKWight: I think what's making this season seem so slow is that they've fallen back to "On The Farm" storytelling, where they focus on a character or single event each episode, and then the following week they roll back time and show another character or single event that was occurring at the same time as the last episode. What this means is that the story is staying in the same place for weeks at a time, not moving forward because they keep rewinding to tell a different point of view during the same time period.

Sometimes, in the middle of this, they'll advance a little bit. Just a little. Just enough to not rewind 100%, but maybe only 80% the next week. Sometimes they'll even go forward naturally, just for a break, but most of this season has been groups of several episodes taking place nearly-simultaneously, and that has just dragged the pace down.

The related problem is that they do have all these simultaneous story lines going on, but unlike Game of Thrones, they can't get the pacing right and jump between different stories in ONE episode. They feel this need to focus on ONE story line per episode, maybe two, and again this drags it down and makes people watching the show wondering when they'll get to see the characters they like again. Will it be this week? Next week? Three weeks from now? Will I ever see that character again?

The showrunners are, quite simply, farking up. From a story-telling perspective they're doing it in the slowest, most boring, ass-dragging way possible. I still like the show, but they're killing my enthusiasm with this pacing.


Has is dawned on anybody that these people might not be particularly good or imaginative writers?  What I can't fathom is the blind defense of openly derivative schlock.
 
2017-03-21 07:21:39 AM  

WilderKWight: I think what's making this season seem so slow is that they've fallen back to "On The Farm" storytelling, where they focus on a character or single event each episode, and then the following week they roll back time and show another character or single event that was occurring at the same time as the last episode. What this means is that the story is staying in the same place for weeks at a time, not moving forward because they keep rewinding to tell a different point of view during the same time period.

Sometimes, in the middle of this, they'll advance a little bit. Just a little. Just enough to not rewind 100%, but maybe only 80% the next week. Sometimes they'll even go forward naturally, just for a break, but most of this season has been groups of several episodes taking place nearly-simultaneously, and that has just dragged the pace down.

The related problem is that they do have all these simultaneous story lines going on, but unlike Game of Thrones, they can't get the pacing right and jump between different stories in ONE episode. They feel this need to focus on ONE story line per episode, maybe two, and again this drags it down and makes people watching the show wondering when they'll get to see the characters they like again. Will it be this week? Next week? Three weeks from now? Will I ever see that character again?

The showrunners are, quite simply, farking up. From a story-telling perspective they're doing it in the slowest, most boring, ass-dragging way possible. I still like the show, but they're killing my enthusiasm with this pacing.


The funny thing is that this is exactly what happened in 4th and 5th book. Tyrion was nowhere in the 4th one.
/spoiler alert?
//Where do whores go? More like where do bores go amirite?
///everyone knows its whore island.
 
2017-03-21 07:45:07 AM  

hoodiowithtudio: The funny thing is that this is exactly what happened in 4th and 5th book.


And where did it get Fatass McDoesn't Publish? Hated by all of his readers.


These walking dead people have a decent cast, a decent source material, and a decent budget. And I'll be honest, it can even crank out occasional decent scenes. But they SUCK at storytelling almost as bad as Rick & Co (-Glenn) suck at ... everything.

A much better way to advance the story with multiple character is to ADVANCE THE STORY and only hop viewpoints to get vignettes of how everyone is going on. Terry Pratchett's "The Last Hero" does this marvelously. You really get a sense of the clock is ticking part of the story, and there's very little to no filler. You bounce between the several main characters for the interesting bits, but you never take a big ol' timeskip backwards.

Admittedly a novel is the same as a TV show, but plenty of TV shows have better pacing. I said many years ago and stand by it even now: hour for hour My Little Pony FiM is a better TV show than The Walking Dead. You'd think the pastel G rated children's cartoon would have more fluff and filler. You'd be wrong.

I get that AMC doesn't have unlimted money for action scenes, sure. But they could easily cut some of the idle banter and do a more suspense and horror type stuff with the same budget. There's a difference between between a slow burn and a failure to ignite.
 
2017-03-21 10:38:51 AM  

hoodiowithtudio: The funny thing is that this is exactly what happened in 4th and 5th book. Tyrion was nowhere in the 4th one.


And fans were rightfully not pleased with that.

The show doesn't make the same mistake as GRR made in the books.
 
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