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2017-03-20 07:08:22 AM  
You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.
 
2017-03-20 07:32:50 AM  

cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.


That actually doesn't sound half bad.
 
2017-03-20 07:35:59 AM  

chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.


A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.
 
2017-03-20 07:46:20 AM  

Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.


Gamebro? Are you mixing up EA or Activision with Bethesda?
 
2017-03-20 07:51:10 AM  

cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.


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The Banner Saga already exists.
 
2017-03-20 08:14:58 AM  

chozo13: Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.

Gamebro? Are you mixing up EA or Activision with Bethesda?


I assume he meant "Gamebryo." It's the engine Bethesda uses for Elder Scrolls\Fallout.
 
2017-03-20 08:18:26 AM  
Check out Organ Trail, which is a zombie apocalypse version done in the Apple II style:

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It's available on pretty much everything for $5
 
2017-03-20 08:26:53 AM  

Last Man on Earth: chozo13: Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.

Gamebro? Are you mixing up EA or Activision with Bethesda?

I assume he meant "Gamebryo." It's the engine Bethesda uses for Elder Scrolls\Fallout.


That makes more sense.

ThatBillmanGuy: Check out Organ Trail, which is a zombie apocalypse version done in the Apple II style:

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It's available on pretty much everything for $5


I have been playing that off and on for a while now. It is a very well done adaptation of the original concept.

Does anyone remember the first version of Oregon Trail where you weren't able to move around while hunting? You had to time your ridiculously slow moving shots when the animals were running across the screen.
 
2017-03-20 08:30:41 AM  
Also:

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/oblig
 
2017-03-20 08:37:02 AM  

chozo13: Also:

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/oblig


Was just about to GIS this. Obliged.
 
2017-03-20 09:00:34 AM  

chozo13: Last Man on Earth: chozo13: Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.

Gamebro? Are you mixing up EA or Activision with Bethesda?

I assume he meant "Gamebryo." It's the engine Bethesda uses for Elder Scrolls\Fallout.

That makes more sense.

ThatBillmanGuy: Check out Organ Trail, which is a zombie apocalypse version done in the Apple II style:

[img.fark.net image 300x168]
[img.fark.net image 271x186]
[img.fark.net image 425x290]

It's available on pretty much everything for $5

I have been playing that off and on for a while now. It is a very well done adaptation of the original concept.

Does anyone remember the first version of Oregon Trail where you weren't able to move around while hunting? You had to time your ridiculously slow moving shots when the animals were running across the screen.


Yes, played that version on an Apple.  It was green screen iirc.  I dont think i ever played the color version.
 
2017-03-20 09:06:54 AM  
I once actually made it to Oregon.

Once.
 
2017-03-20 09:08:13 AM  

Igor Jakovsky: chozo13: Last Man on Earth: chozo13: Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.

Gamebro? Are you mixing up EA or Activision with Bethesda?

I assume he meant "Gamebryo." It's the engine Bethesda uses for Elder Scrolls\Fallout.

That makes more sense.

ThatBillmanGuy: Check out Organ Trail, which is a zombie apocalypse version done in the Apple II style:

[img.fark.net image 300x168]
[img.fark.net image 271x186]
[img.fark.net image 425x290]

It's available on pretty much everything for $5

I have been playing that off and on for a while now. It is a very well done adaptation of the original concept.

Does anyone remember the first version of Oregon Trail where you weren't able to move around while hunting? You had to time your ridiculously slow moving shots when the animals were running across the screen.

Yes, played that version on an Apple.  It was green screen iirc.  I dont think i ever played the color version.


I remember spinning the character around in circles with the mouse because he couldn't walk. And the damn moose would always be behind a tree when my shot did line up.
 
2017-03-20 09:13:27 AM  
I've got dysentery, so I'm getting a kick...

/ Actually it's just a normal morning poop.
 
2017-03-20 09:39:55 AM  

chozo13: Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.

Gamebro? Are you mixing up EA or Activision with Bethesda?


Give it to From soft.
 
2017-03-20 09:48:03 AM  

RedVentrue: chozo13: Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.

Gamebro? Are you mixing up EA or Activision with Bethesda?

Give it to From soft.


You were killed by a squirrel.
 
2017-03-20 10:04:22 AM  
Perfect for microtransactions and DLC with its online MMO
 
2017-03-20 10:09:31 AM  

Flappyhead: RedVentrue: chozo13: Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.

Gamebro? Are you mixing up EA or Activision with Bethesda?

Give it to From soft.

You were killed by a squirrel.


That would be the Rim world version.
 
2017-03-20 10:21:59 AM  
Always felt cheated when I actually hit a bison but could only take a paltry share of the meat back, so still starving.
 
2017-03-20 10:26:23 AM  

eltejon: Always felt cheated when I actually hit a bison but could only take a paltry share of the meat back, so still starving.


That mechanic is really annoying for a design standpoint. Having to hunt multiple times at the same place to get enough food is silly, but the fact that the hunt goes on a timer and cannot be skipped after shooting over 100lbs of food makes it painful.  Either the hunt should end as soon as you have more meat than you can carry or you should be able to carry more meat.
 
2017-03-20 10:29:29 AM  
I got this for secret Santa at the office last Christmas. Haven't played yet, but looks promising.
 
2017-03-20 10:42:32 AM  
Could always give it to Telltale.  "Jed will remember that"?  Not after I drown his ass trying to ford the river!
 
2017-03-20 10:57:15 AM  

Uewebawo: I got this for secret Santa at the office last Christmas. Haven't played yet, but looks promising.


I may have to check my local game shop for availability. Thanks for posting that!
 
2017-03-20 10:59:47 AM  
Dysentery? I know the cure to that!:

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2017-03-20 11:11:36 AM  

Summercat: chozo13: cretinbob: You know, Bethesda should buy the rights to it and make a new one.

That actually doesn't sound half bad.

A gamebro Oregon trail?

Pass.


But think of all the fun things that can happen like all the shiat in your wagon collapsing into a heap after you pick up like, an apple, or your freshly shot deer carcass suddenly begins levitating while the body spasms and jiggles, turning into some kind of deadly vortex of limbs and antlers that instantly kills you if you get to close? Or you could arrive at a settlement only to find the shopkeep dead for no explicable reason or fault of your own and no way to resupply or advance without cheating?

/Then again, I could listen to Wes Johnson and Michael Mack read the phonebook all day
 
2017-03-20 11:37:40 AM  
I know about Oregon Trail but never played it, I did not get to use a computer before college. Was it a Rogue type game where death is final? i.e. no or only one save file and that get destroy when you die.
 
2017-03-20 11:38:26 AM  
And... I thought this was going to be an article about 'Wasteland".
 
2017-03-20 11:50:46 AM  

talkertopc: I know about Oregon Trail but never played it, I did not get to use a computer before college. Was it a Rogue type game where death is final? i.e. no or only one save file and that get destroy when you die.


I don't even think it had a save file (memory is hazy). I think you finished it in one or go or you didn't.
 
2017-03-20 11:53:47 AM  

Egoy3k: eltejon: Always felt cheated when I actually hit a bison but could only take a paltry share of the meat back, so still starving.

That mechanic is really annoying for a design standpoint. Having to hunt multiple times at the same place to get enough food is silly, but the fact that the hunt goes on a timer and cannot be skipped after shooting over 100lbs of food makes it painful.  Either the hunt should end as soon as you have more meat than you can carry or you should be able to carry more meat.


I guess they wanted to drop an anvil about how the settlers killed everything in sight and wasted it by letting you sit there with 10 dead bison laying around you and that hundred pounds of meat getting you about 3 days before doing it again
 
2017-03-20 11:55:54 AM  

chozo13: talkertopc: I know about Oregon Trail but never played it, I did not get to use a computer before college. Was it a Rogue type game where death is final? i.e. no or only one save file and that get destroy when you die.

I don't even think it had a save file (memory is hazy). I think you finished it in one or go or you didn't.


That's how we rolled in elementary school and I think why everyone thinks it was unbeatable. It was just unbeatable from start to finish for 8 year olds on a firm 15 minute time limit where someone else would restart unless you could bargain for more time.
 
2017-03-20 12:11:17 PM  
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2017-03-20 12:16:31 PM  

Fano: Egoy3k: eltejon: Always felt cheated when I actually hit a bison but could only take a paltry share of the meat back, so still starving.

That mechanic is really annoying for a design standpoint. Having to hunt multiple times at the same place to get enough food is silly, but the fact that the hunt goes on a timer and cannot be skipped after shooting over 100lbs of food makes it painful.  Either the hunt should end as soon as you have more meat than you can carry or you should be able to carry more meat.

I guess they wanted to drop an anvil about how the settlers killed everything in sight and wasted it by letting you sit there with 10 dead bison laying around you and that hundred pounds of meat getting you about 3 days before doing it again


I always assumed it was a protection against  integer overflow, but they could have just set an upper limit to how much meat the wagon can carry.
 
2017-03-20 01:03:34 PM  

Fano: Egoy3k: eltejon: Always felt cheated when I actually hit a bison but could only take a paltry share of the meat back, so still starving.

That mechanic is really annoying for a design standpoint. Having to hunt multiple times at the same place to get enough food is silly, but the fact that the hunt goes on a timer and cannot be skipped after shooting over 100lbs of food makes it painful.  Either the hunt should end as soon as you have more meat than you can carry or you should be able to carry more meat.

I guess they wanted to drop an anvil about how the settlers killed everything in sight and wasted it by letting you sit there with 10 dead bison laying around you and that hundred pounds of meat getting you about 3 days before doing it again


That's what I've always assumed.  At least in some versions, it was 100 when you had wagonmates and 50 if you were a sole survivor (or possibly 200/100, I forget), so that seems a lot more likely than integer issues.
 
2017-03-20 01:56:40 PM  
I beat this game so many times back in the 80s on my Dad's Apple IIe.  Still a great game today and I have a java version running on my PC now.

My 8th grade teacher actually had the whole class play a role-playing version of Oregon trail for a week which was awesome because only a few of us actually realized we were playing an RPG.  Even the "popular" kids thought it was awesome.

/The only party to make it.
//Even my cow "Skippy" made it
 
2017-03-20 03:01:01 PM  
QWOP?

/The guy runs like he's got the trots
 
2017-03-20 03:52:47 PM  
two girls and a funnel?
 
2017-03-20 05:20:34 PM  
Still holding out for an Oregon Trail/Carmen San Diego mashup.
 
2017-03-20 07:42:21 PM  
Sorry subby, but X-Com will always be the greatest game ever made
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2017-03-20 07:44:18 PM  
Actually this is what the Oregon trail originally looked like on the Apple II. No color. No fancy graphics. No fancy animations. And distributed for free as part of a public domain software collection.

I show a playthrough (I died along the way), though it's a bit boring. But this is where it began on the Apple II.

Apple II: The REAL original Oregon Trail
Youtube PySqTm4Qu2A
 
2017-03-20 11:17:12 PM  

DMahalko: Actually this is what the Oregon trail originally looked like on the Apple II. No color. No fancy graphics. No fancy animations. And distributed for free as part of a public domain software collection.

I show a playthrough (I died along the way), though it's a bit boring. But this is where it began on the Apple II.

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Man, that's quite the loaded IIgs there!  Is that a hard drive I see below the box of floppies?  And *3* floppy drives?  What luxury!
 
2017-03-21 01:36:24 AM  
(Sorry, waaaaaay off topic.)

This was originally a proprietary "Mastery Development" Apple IIgs classroom file server, for about 32 other Apple II computers. I have the MD Teacher network card and the original MD server drive, but not any of the network cabling or the MD Student network cards.

ROM 03 IIgs, wih 2 meg RAM, Apple high speed SCSI card, retrofitted with 9 gig SCSI drive, GS/OS 6.0.1. There is a PC next to it with a serial connection, for ADTPro (Apple Disk Transfer) upload/download for emulators/archiving. Also have additional 3.5" drives, but having hard drives makes more than one 3.5" drive unnecessary.

I made a video recently on how to retrofit antique computers with more modern hot-plug server SCSI drives:
Antique computers: Solution to finding working SCSI drives
Youtube oMvLgmseWqA


Since doing this video I've learned GS/OS can use the old style Mac HFS partitions (not HFS+), so the next plan is to try to set it up with a 300 gig hot-plug server SCSI drive from 2004, the largest size available before servers moved to SAS.

But HFS is weird, it can only have a max of 65535 files per partition, max 2 gig per file. Also, it's very unclear how practical any of this is on a IIgs (max 1 meg/sec SCSI transfer rate... 85 hrs to stream-read an entire 300gig drive)... or what to even use 300 gigs of storage for, as apparently only the 16-bit GS/OS can access HFS, not the old 8-bit ProDOS, and I have very little 16-bit IIgs software.

At this point this is just a silly experiment with no purpose other than seeing if it can be done.
 
2017-03-21 02:37:21 PM  
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2017-03-21 09:59:37 PM  
Played it in 72-73?  You had to call in on a phone and then insert into a cradle.  I think the printers were called teletype
 
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