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2017-03-20 08:41:53 AM  
That's just an effort to dehumanize them, which leads to other things. It's a go to thing.

see: birth certificates
 
2017-03-20 10:45:37 AM  
So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.
 
2017-03-20 01:28:46 PM  
Wait, what?

Desperate people are more likely to commit desperate acts?

Huh. Who knew?

So Trump's dire warning of crimes committed by immigrants are gonna be a self fulfilling prophecy of doom that he will try to use to justify his unsupportable actions?

Yeah, downwards spirals!
 
2017-03-20 02:28:46 PM  

Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.


 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.
 
2017-03-20 02:31:41 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.


Well, you don't exactly need a huge budget if your view of "counter terrorism" is harassing the brown people at the airport.
 
2017-03-20 02:32:06 PM  

quatchi: Wait, what?

Desperate people are more likely to commit desperate acts?

Huh. Who knew?

So Trump's dire warning of crimes committed by immigrants are gonna be a self fulfilling prophecy of doom that he will try to use to justify his unsupportable actions?

Yeah, downwards spirals!


Post hoc ergo propter hoc is more than just a fallacy to Trump.  It's central to his being.
 
2017-03-20 02:39:40 PM  

quatchi: Desperate people are more likely to commit desperate acts?

Huh. Who knew?


Hell, it's one reason Trump won the Rust Belt...
 
2017-03-20 02:50:10 PM  

Diogenes: quatchi: Wait, what?
Desperate people are more likely to commit desperate acts?
Huh. Who knew?
So Trump's dire warning of crimes committed by immigrants are gonna be a self fulfilling prophecy of doom that he will try to use to justify his unsupportable actions?
Yeah, downwards spirals!

Post hoc ergo propter hoc is more than just a fallacy to Trump.  It's central to his being.


I believe ya.

In fact, I bet if you asked Trump about his Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy he'd tell you himself he has one and it's YUGE!

Paris1127: quatchi: Desperate people are more likely to commit desperate acts?

Huh. Who knew?

Hell, it's one reason Trump won the Rust Belt...


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2017-03-20 03:12:53 PM  
Join Palmach
 
2017-03-20 03:53:38 PM  

Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.


Eh.  I was assured by Top Bros that things would be exactly the same or worse under Hillary.  We got off lucky.  Imagine how farked our country would have been bad if the TPP was forced through the Senate by that Hillary hosebeast?
 
2017-03-20 03:54:26 PM  

Paris1127: quatchi: Desperate people are more likely to commit desperate acts?

Huh. Who knew?

Hell, it's one reason Trump won the Rust Belt...


Yep. It's the strategy used by despots, gangs and terrorists the world over; target the poor, desperate communities, give them an outside 'enemy' to direct their anger at instead of the people actually causing their problems, and you have yourself an army.

Then, while they're fighting that 'enemy', do everything in your power to KEEP those people poor, desperate and angry.
 
2017-03-20 03:55:33 PM  
I thought it said 'desalination' and was worried he was putting muslims in centrifuges to separate out the heavier and lighter elements. So not as bad as I thought.
 
2017-03-20 03:55:42 PM  
Want to radicalize this American? Send DEA tanks into my neighborhood over a plant.

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I'll call IED and 762.
 
2017-03-20 03:55:51 PM  
TOP PEOPLE IN HAWAII TOLD ME OBAMA MAY BE BLACK!!!!
 
2017-03-20 03:57:45 PM  
One of the few things that G W Bush got right was to separate the terrorists from run-of-the-mill Muslims.  This administraton can't even do that.
 
2017-03-20 03:57:50 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Want to radicalize this American? Send DEA tanks into my neighborhood over a plant.

[img.fark.net image 654x434]

I'll call IED and 762.


WHAT?
 
2017-03-20 03:58:24 PM  
They know. They need more terrorist attacks to justify more defense spending.
 
2017-03-20 03:58:39 PM  
Satanic_Hamster:

Seek professional help.
 
2017-03-20 04:01:15 PM  
... then what happens when you make the entire world American citizens?
 
2017-03-20 04:02:38 PM  
Diogenes:

So for those of you keeping score, we have:
1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security yeah but while I am downing a beer in the airport Armadillo Willy's, they tackle ibedots at random and man, it just makes my day, y'know?
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country but it will be tremendously beautiful...for me to poop tag on
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care well, hell, they die and I go up in line. Tell me what's wrong with that?!!!
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies hey it's better than working with the dems, amirite?

Things are just going great.

Sure they are!  Just give him a chance!!!
 
2017-03-20 04:05:15 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: ... then what happens when you make the entire world American citizens?


Don't you want that?
 
2017-03-20 04:07:10 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.


I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.
 
2017-03-20 04:07:11 PM  

fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: Want to radicalize this American? Send DEA tanks into my neighborhood over a plant.

[img.fark.net image 654x434]

I'll call IED and 762.

WHAT?


That wasn't unhinged enough? Damn. Not sure I can push it any further without actually crossing a line.

//probably too late.
 
2017-03-20 04:08:11 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: ... then what happens when you make the entire world American citizens?


What the fark does that even mean?
 
2017-03-20 04:08:59 PM  

Arkanaut: Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.


It's gonna be North Korea. First nuclear attack on US soil? You've got to admit the motivation and the drive is there.
 
2017-03-20 04:16:19 PM  

whidbey: Arkanaut: Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.

It's gonna be North Korea. First nuclear attack on US soil? You've got to admit the motivation and the drive is there.


There's something to that but:
1) AFAIK North Korea doesn't have the capacity to attack the US, only Japan and South Korea.
2) Even if they do launch a nuke at us and actually strike a populated target, that doesn't really give the impetus for a crackdown like a second 9/11 would.
 
2017-03-20 04:19:00 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Satanic_Hamster:

Seek professional help.


Why?
 
2017-03-20 04:19:40 PM  

Arkanaut: whidbey: Arkanaut: Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.

It's gonna be North Korea. First nuclear attack on US soil? You've got to admit the motivation and the drive is there.

There's something to that but:
1) AFAIK North Korea doesn't have the capacity to attack the US, only Japan and South Korea.
2) Even if they do launch a nuke at us and actually strike a populated target, that doesn't really give the impetus for a crackdown like a second 9/11 would.


Yeah... at that point the question would be who are we cracking down from?  Because if North Korea detonated a nuke on us or our allies, their country would cease to exist due to the counter attack.
 
2017-03-20 04:20:53 PM  

Arkanaut: Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.


Worked for W

Just keep shopping!!!!
 
2017-03-20 04:21:21 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: Want to radicalize this American? Send DEA tanks into my neighborhood over a plant.

[img.fark.net image 654x434]

I'll call IED and 762.

WHAT?

That wasn't unhinged enough? Damn. Not sure I can push it any further without actually crossing a line.

//probably too late.


Oh. I thought you were calling me.
 
2017-03-20 04:24:24 PM  
There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.
 
2017-03-20 04:27:16 PM  

dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.


Americans want a peaceful nonviolent society?

They sure don't act like it.
 
2017-03-20 04:27:19 PM  

dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.

There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.
We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.
I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.



Holy farking shiat, dude.
 
2017-03-20 04:28:31 PM  

dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.


There is absolutely no data that indicates people leaving violent countries will be violent when the come here.  In many cases, they are leaving becausethe country they are from is violent.  Plus, America's not exactly the least violent country on the planet in the first place.  We are more violent (in terms of violent crime) than most, if not, all, of Europe, plus most, if not all, of Asia.
 
2017-03-20 04:29:28 PM  

Arkanaut: Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.


That makes two of us...
 
2017-03-20 04:30:30 PM  

Arkanaut: Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.


Maybe in their wet dreams, but I don't think they are nearly smart enough to pull something like that off without getting caught.
 
2017-03-20 04:30:49 PM  

BooksontheBrain: Arkanaut: Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.

That makes two of us...


Possibly some sort of cyberhacking.  That way they can shut down our most powerful tool, the one we're posting on right now.
 
2017-03-20 04:33:08 PM  
Great stuff, but get a copy editor.
 
2017-03-20 04:36:05 PM  

fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: Want to radicalize this American? Send DEA tanks into my neighborhood over a plant.

[img.fark.net image 654x434]

I'll call IED and 762.

WHAT?

That wasn't unhinged enough? Damn. Not sure I can push it any further without actually crossing a line.

//probably too late.

Oh. I thought you were calling me.


I'm skeptical that is why 762 is in your handle.
 
2017-03-20 04:39:55 PM  

whidbey: Kangaroo_Ralph: ... then what happens when you make the entire world American citizens?

Don't you want that?


Fuk no!  Then he'd have to, you know, actually compete for his job

/instead of being a dick
//on Fark
///mom!  Meatloaf!!!!
 
2017-03-20 04:42:01 PM  

whidbey: BooksontheBrain: Arkanaut: Voiceofreason01: Diogenes: So for those of you keeping score, we have:

1)  An immigration policy that brings us less security
2)  A wall that is useless against the means by which undocumented persons enter and remain in the country
3)  A health care plan that will result in less people having health care
4)  A diplomatic strategy that cozies up to chief rival and alienates us from our allies

Things are just going great.

 Also Trump wants to cut DHS' counter-terrorism budget and gut the Coast Guard.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that either Trump or Bannon is counting on a terror attack in the US to declare a state of emergency, crack down on political enemies and the press, and cancel elections.

That makes two of us...

Possibly some sort of cyberhacking.  That way they can shut down our most powerful tool, the one we're posting on right now.


Ya know, they are trying to end Net Neutrality...
 
2017-03-20 04:44:09 PM  

Geotpf: dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.

There is absolutely no data that indicates people leaving violent countries will be violent when the come here.  In many cases, they are leaving becausethe country they are from is violent.  Plus, America's not exactly the least violent country on the planet in the first place.  We are more violent (in terms of violent crime) than most, if not, all, of Europe, plus most, if not all, of Asia.


Then why would we take on more until we solve our home grown problem first?
 
2017-03-20 04:49:59 PM  

dwrash: Geotpf: dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.

There is absolutely no data that indicates people leaving violent countries will be violent when the come here.  In many cases, they are leaving becausethe country they are from is violent.  Plus, America's not exactly the least violent country on the planet in the first place.  We are more violent (in terms of violent crime) than most, if not, all, of Europe, plus most, if not all, of Asia.

Then why would we take on more until we solve our home grown problem first?


Because we don't have the political will or the patience.
 
2017-03-20 04:53:39 PM  

Arkanaut: dwrash: Geotpf: dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.

There is absolutely no data that indicates people leaving violent countries will be violent when the come here.  In many cases, they are leaving becausethe country they are from is violent.  Plus, America's not exactly the least violent country on the planet in the first place.  We are more violent (in terms of violent crime) than most, if not, all, of Europe, plus most, if not all, of Asia.

Then why would we take on more until we solve our home grown problem first?

Because we don't have the political will or the patience.


Yup... we are all about instant gratification instead of long term gains.
 
2017-03-20 05:08:10 PM  
It was not September 11 that made conservatives receptive to Gaffney's theories. It was America's failed post-9/11 wars.

No, September 11 definitely made them receptive.

Islamophobia and anti-Middle Eastern xenophobia always existed. September 11 became an excuse to go on with it.

It's how the "Secret Muslim" theories against then-Senator Obama in the 2008 election season started.
 
2017-03-20 05:22:30 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: Want to radicalize this American? Send DEA tanks into my neighborhood over a plant.

[img.fark.net image 654x434]

I'll call IED and 762.

WHAT?

That wasn't unhinged enough? Damn. Not sure I can push it any further without actually crossing a line.

//probably too late.

Oh. I thought you were calling me.

I'm skeptical that is why 762 is in your handle.


Well then you'd be wrong. It's based on the caliber. 556 was taken, believe it or not.
 
2017-03-20 05:48:32 PM  

fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: Want to radicalize this American? Send DEA tanks into my neighborhood over a plant.

[img.fark.net image 654x434]

I'll call IED and 762.

WHAT?

That wasn't unhinged enough? Damn. Not sure I can push it any further without actually crossing a line.

//probably too late.

Oh. I thought you were calling me.

I'm skeptical that is why 762 is in your handle.

Well then you'd be wrong. It's based on the caliber. 556 was taken, believe it or not.


That was the Military Police unit I was helping out in, we only had SADM's and MADM's.
 
2017-03-20 05:50:37 PM  

dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.


I'm starting to feel these attacks against my Savior, the Prophet Hitler, is starting to radicalize me. I just want to live peaceably and evangelize but insulting my prophet is a form of religious bigotry that makes me feel unwelcome and prone to radicalization.
 
2017-03-20 05:51:41 PM  

Geotpf: dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.

There is absolutely no data that indicates people leaving violent countries will be violent when the come here.  In many cases, they are leaving becausethe country they are from is violent.  Plus, America's not exactly the least violent country on the planet in the first place.  We are more violent (in terms of violent crime) than most, if not, all, of Europe, plus most, if not all, of Asia.


We're not even more violent than half of Europe. We're easily less violent than 75% of the world.
 
2017-03-20 05:51:51 PM  

dwrash: Geotpf: dwrash: There are other ways to deal with this and religion should not be a litmus test.  My concern is violence in their country of origin.  Personally, I would ban a LOT more countries from immigration until we can figure out a way to re-educate them when they enter our borders... and yes, Christian nations would be part of the ban.

We want a peaceful, non-violent society and a promise of non-violence of all types must be part of their condition of entry.   When you come from a country where stonings, beatings, be-headings, amputations, honor killings, etc. are every day occurrences, you become desensitized to it.

I also fee the same way with our military, there should be a lot more non-violence training when they are discharged.

There is absolutely no data that indicates people leaving violent countries will be violent when the come here.  In many cases, they are leaving becausethe country they are from is violent.  Plus, America's not exactly the least violent country on the planet in the first place.  We are more violent (in terms of violent crime) than most, if not, all, of Europe, plus most, if not all, of Asia.

Then why would we take on more until we solve our home grown problem first?


My counter would be is that they are probably actually less violent than native borns, so by taking them in, we are, in effect, helping to solve said problem.
 
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