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(The Federalist)   The gun industry is now realizing: be careful what you wish for   ( thefederalist.com) divider line
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2017-03-19 05:05:58 PM  
Trump slump.

Farkers, make it so.

Gun industry. Tourism. Golfing will be next as Trump will make it very uncool.
 
2017-03-19 05:51:54 PM  
I'd just as soon we not adopt legislation intended to help a particular industry. That's socialism, after all.

Reap what you sow, assholes, and keep your farking "Man Cards."
 
2017-03-19 06:02:22 PM  
driving prices deep into the red, and forcing some gun dealers out of business

If a gun dealer has gone out of business in this short time then it had nothing to do with Trump, your business was shiat.
 
2017-03-19 06:14:06 PM  

Barfmaker: driving prices deep into the red, and forcing some gun dealers out of business

If a gun dealer has gone out of business in this short time then it had nothing to do with Trump, your business was shiat.


Probably overstocked expecting Hillary to win and Take All The Guns (tm).
 
2017-03-19 06:17:30 PM  
Cry me a farking river.
 
2017-03-19 06:21:45 PM  
As I said in an earlier thread, as a dirty filthy liberal, I'm doing my part to make up for the downturn in conservative firearms purchases as prices drop.
 
2017-03-19 06:35:38 PM  
"We will have so much winning if I get elected, you may get bored with winning!"
 
2017-03-19 06:35:40 PM  
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2017-03-19 06:38:09 PM  
My dad has a nice collection of guns, but they were all bought pre-Obama. Even he knew that the prices were inflated to hell.
 
2017-03-19 06:51:01 PM  
Oh my gosh, that's so sad.

NOT

/That's what the kids are saying these days, right?
 
2017-03-19 06:56:11 PM  
Maybe ammo will get cheaper.
 
2017-03-19 07:09:43 PM  

Farking Clown Shoes: [crooksandliars.com image 640x385]


They're Trumpers, they prefer a similar gun but not a revolver, something with a high capacity clip.
 
2017-03-19 07:24:41 PM  
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2017-03-19 07:38:30 PM  
Surely, there must be a 2nd Amendment solution.
 
2017-03-19 07:39:12 PM  
It's almost like the NRA and its affiliates were full of crap and were just using scare tactics to drives sales.

Nah, couldn't be.
 
2017-03-19 07:39:47 PM  

GardenWeasel: As I said in an earlier thread, as a dirty filthy liberal, I'm doing my part to make up for the downturn in conservative firearms purchases as prices drop.


As a fellow lib, I just had my LTC interview on Saturday. 2017 will be the start of my gun ownership.
 
2017-03-19 07:45:57 PM  
Good. I've been waiting for the panic buying to slow down so I could grab a few pieces for less than batshiat crazy prices.
 
2017-03-19 07:46:29 PM  
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2017-03-19 07:47:14 PM  
And now all the libby-libs are buying guns when they are cheap.  Proving once again the Right is not only Wrong but Stupid.
 
2017-03-19 07:47:39 PM  
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2017-03-19 07:49:19 PM  
What a pity... and now instead of buying guns, all the disposable income will be spent on collectible NASCAR plates.
 
2017-03-19 07:49:35 PM  
FTA: "For the previous eight years, gun rights advocates, gun owners, and the firearms industry had been fighting an all-out war with the Obama administration and its allies in Congress, the media, and the courts to fend off the constant chipping away of the Second Amendment."

I almost forgot the day Obama and his Muslm Brotherhood came to my door to snatch my guns. Thank goodness for the federalist and its constant vigilance in reminding us how close we were to losing all of our guns and gun rights under Obama.
 
2017-03-19 07:52:02 PM  
Until then, though, expect further decline until the industry bottoms out. But in the meantime at least, there's hope among gun enthusiasts that at least for the next four years their rights won't be pried from their "cold dead hands."

I like how the author can't even close this article without peppering in a little fearmongering.
 
2017-03-19 07:57:53 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: My dad has a nice collection of guns, but they were all bought pre-Obama. Even he knew that the prices were inflated to hell.


Seriously, I've had to rely on off-brand models like these for years

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2017-03-19 07:58:13 PM  
The gun industry would never do this, because theyre sucking the Republicans' dick, but they could always spin gun ownership as a social justice issue to entice liberals/Democrats into purchasing weapons.

I don't think liberals are as anti gun as they portend to be, I just think they're mostly revulsed by the people pimping gun ownership more than anything else.
 
2017-03-19 07:58:31 PM  
I've never been in the immediate presence of a fired gun, so I'm intrigued by the noise suppression devices. That is, I like the idea -- at least if I were to ever have to fire one (not a gun owner).

So, dumb question: How loud is a gun, anyway? Do hunters routinely wear hearing protection? How long ago did that start? Or even in frontier days did they plug their ears with cloth? Is deafness a common claim in VA hospitals from battle-line veterans?
 
2017-03-19 07:58:56 PM  
For the previous eight years, gun rights advocates, gun owners, and the firearms industry had been fighting an all-out war with the Obama administration and its allies in Congress, the media, and the courts to fend off the constant chipping away of the Second Amendment.

Now granted, under Obama they allowed conceal carry in national parks, and allowed checked firearms on trains and they got rid of the CLEO certification requirement.So I mean in terms of what they actually did, they kinda expanded gun rights.  But what you libs will forget is us gun huggers had to live in constant fear for 8 years he'd show up at our door and personally revoke all of our weapons.  So I mean, that was terrible and Obama was kinda a dick for making us so scared.
 
2017-03-19 07:59:32 PM  
1) Fark the author for even typing that there was any restriction in gun rights during the Obama era.
2) sounds like the firearm industry relies heavily on the federal government, directly and indirectly. Perhaps they should work with the government instead of sending their little goblins to say "no" to every safety measure.
 
2017-03-19 07:59:43 PM  
Interdasting.
If I, as a Centrist/Progressive were buying guns, I would probably hang out at places that sold guns. The place I might hang out in perusal of such guns, tells me that sales have Increased since 45's election. Seems folks what had never considered owning guns are buying guns faster than they can restock.
All those POC, Liberals, LGBT types, are somewhat afraid for their safety and well being.
Wonder why that might be?
 
2017-03-19 08:01:00 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I've never been in the immediate presence of a fired gun, so I'm intrigued by the noise suppression devices. That is, I like the idea -- at least if I were to ever have to fire one (not a gun owner).

So, dumb question: How loud is a gun, anyway? Do hunters routinely wear hearing protection? How long ago did that start? Or even in frontier days did they plug their ears with cloth? Is deafness a common claim in VA hospitals from battle-line veterans?


Even quiet guns are pretty loud, but it depends on the cartridge, how that cartridge is loaded, and what kind of gun is firing it.
 
2017-03-19 08:01:11 PM  
"deep state"

DIAF!
 
2017-03-19 08:02:11 PM  
My gun nut neighbor is thrilled now that prices are dropping. He just picked up 4 lower receivers for $45 each and found boxes of 9mm ammo for $13 in a local mom and pop shop (they used to be @$40/box).  Asked him if he thinks the gun industry had been taking advantage of him for the last 8 years. Naturally the derp began to herp.
 
2017-03-19 08:02:46 PM  

enry: Barfmaker: driving prices deep into the red, and forcing some gun dealers out of business

If a gun dealer has gone out of business in this short time then it had nothing to do with Trump, your business was shiat.

Probably overstocked expecting Hillary to win and Take All The Guns (tm).


I've lost about $4k on firearms stocks because I expected just that.  I'm debating on what to do now.   Eat the loss or hold on and pray for more gun grabbin' hysteria.
 
2017-03-19 08:03:24 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: GardenWeasel: As I said in an earlier thread, as a dirty filthy liberal, I'm doing my part to make up for the downturn in conservative firearms purchases as prices drop.

As a fellow lib, I just had my LTC interview on Saturday. 2017 will be the start of my gun ownership.


It's weird to keep seeing commercials for gun classes on MSNBC.
 
2017-03-19 08:04:18 PM  
If there's an industry/lobby that needs to take it on the chin for once it's them.

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2017-03-19 08:05:15 PM  

DubyaHater: 1) Fark the author for even typing that there was any restriction in gun rights during the Obama era.


At the federal level, no.  The states are a different story.

2) sounds like the firearm industry relies heavily on the federal government, directly and indirectly. Perhaps they should work with the government instead of sending their little goblins to say "no" to every safety measure.

The gun-buying public makes up a bigger chunk of sales than the federal government, by a significant margin.  There are people who to this day won't buy Ruger or Smith & Wesson, that's how lowly collaborators (perceived or otherwise) are viewed among many gun owners.
 
2017-03-19 08:05:51 PM  

real_headhoncho: And now all the libby-libs are buying guns when they are cheap.  Proving once again the Right is not only Wrong but Stupid.


Could you imagine if manufacturers tried to dump their excess inventory through Sam's? You could pick up a blister pack with 4 guns and accessories.
 
2017-03-19 08:06:12 PM  

lennavan: For the previous eight years, gun rights advocates, gun owners, and the firearms industry had been fighting an all-out war with the Obama administration and its allies in Congress, the media, and the courts to fend off the constant chipping away of the Second Amendment.

Now granted, under Obama they allowed conceal carry in national parks, and allowed checked firearms on trains and they got rid of the CLEO certification requirement.So I mean in terms of what they actually did, they kinda expanded gun rights.  But what you libs will forget is us gun huggers had to live in constant fear for 8 years he'd show up at our door and personally revoke all of our weapons.  So I mean, that was terrible and Obama was kinda a dick for making us so scared.


Thank cheesus our long national nightmare is over. Scary eight years my friend. I wonder how much money the libs wasted running those false flag ops like at Sandy Hook?
 
2017-03-19 08:06:38 PM  

vrax: "deep state"

DIAF!


Whoa, missed that one.  I really need to update my derper decoder chart.
 
2017-03-19 08:07:19 PM  

Barfmaker: driving prices deep into the red, and forcing some gun dealers out of business

If a gun dealer has gone out of business in this short time then it had nothing to do with Trump, your business was shiat.


Clearly it was the fault of some burdensome regulations. No way there business could have gone under for any other reason. Thanks Obama!
 
2017-03-19 08:08:23 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: GardenWeasel: As I said in an earlier thread, as a dirty filthy liberal, I'm doing my part to make up for the downturn in conservative firearms purchases as prices drop.

As a fellow lib, I just had my LTC interview on Saturday. 2017 will be the start of my gun ownership.


My wife and I went to a range a few weekends ago.  First time I'd ever held a gun.  My wife's dad owned one, but never taught her to shoot. We're still trying to figure out what gun(s) we want, precisely.  We tried five different pistols; the first one was good, the second was decent, the third terrible (too heavy/hard to reload), the fourth was acceptable, the fifth was decent.

We're looking for three guns:  Tge first, personal defense for when I travel.  The second, home defense.  The third, a rifle.

/A friend of ours chewed us out for going to that range.
//He loathes the owner.
 
2017-03-19 08:08:30 PM  
1.  Start fake news stories about the U.N. banning guns worldwide.
2.  ???
3.  Profit
 
2017-03-19 08:09:35 PM  
It is a bit of double-edged sword. In general, and obviously, gun companies have done much better under Dem presidencies. The real or unreal fear of anti-gun legislation has been a boon to the gun makers.

On the other hand, we'll eventually get to real anti-gun legislation. My reasoning is: a) we tend to follow the other westernized countries, b) our current tendency to shiat all over our own constitution, and c) our quality of life, and hence freedom, in this country on a definite decline.

The only way I see out of the decline is a move to left in our country's politics (which I agree with). If that comes to pass, stricter gun laws will most certainly follow.

The alternative to this is a much more stark future: either anarchy due to desperation or (much more likely) a progression of the fascism/oligarchy we currently have. The latter will result in a faster erosion of gun rights than even a move to the left.

/ YMMV
 
2017-03-19 08:10:08 PM  

BadReligion: Huck And Molly Ziegler: I've never been in the immediate presence of a fired gun, so I'm intrigued by the noise suppression devices. That is, I like the idea -- at least if I were to ever have to fire one (not a gun owner).

So, dumb question: How loud is a gun, anyway? Do hunters routinely wear hearing protection? How long ago did that start? Or even in frontier days did they plug their ears with cloth? Is deafness a common claim in VA hospitals from battle-line veterans?

Even quiet guns are pretty loud, but it depends on the cartridge, how that cartridge is loaded, and what kind of gun is firing it.


Some of the larger calibers also have a high-pitched "yeeee-hawww" sound associated with them.
 
2017-03-19 08:10:18 PM  

Exception Collection: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: GardenWeasel: As I said in an earlier thread, as a dirty filthy liberal, I'm doing my part to make up for the downturn in conservative firearms purchases as prices drop.

As a fellow lib, I just had my LTC interview on Saturday. 2017 will be the start of my gun ownership.

My wife and I went to a range a few weekends ago.  First time I'd ever held a gun.  My wife's dad owned one, but never taught her to shoot. We're still trying to figure out what gun(s) we want, precisely.  We tried five different pistols; the first one was good, the second was decent, the third terrible (too heavy/hard to reload), the fourth was acceptable, the fifth was decent.

We're looking for three guns:  Tge first, personal defense for when I travel.  The second, home defense.  The third, a rifle.

/A friend of ours chewed us out for going to that range.
//He loathes the owner.


I personally like Sig Sauer and Smith & Wesson pistols and revolvers. But everyone is different when it comes to guns.
 
2017-03-19 08:11:21 PM  

Rent Party: enry: Barfmaker: driving prices deep into the red, and forcing some gun dealers out of business

If a gun dealer has gone out of business in this short time then it had nothing to do with Trump, your business was shiat.

Probably overstocked expecting Hillary to win and Take All The Guns (tm).

I've lost about $4k on firearms stocks because I expected just that.  I'm debating on what to do now.   Eat the loss or hold on and pray for more gun grabbin' hysteria.


2020 is just around the corner. The prices will go up, methinks.
 
2017-03-19 08:13:22 PM  

BadReligion: But everyone is different when it comes to guns.


This.
 
2017-03-19 08:14:02 PM  

FleshMonkey: Gun industry. Tourism. Golfing will be next as Trump will make it very uncool.


Golf was never cool to anyone but the aristocracy and those who lick their boots.
 
2017-03-19 08:14:16 PM  
Exception Collection:

We're looking for three guns:  Tge first, personal defense for when I travel.  The second, home defense.  The third, a rifle.

Hammerless wheelgun for your pocket, in .38, or .357 loaded with .38 if you enjoy the occasional hand cannon outing.
 
2017-03-19 08:14:58 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I've never been in the immediate presence of a fired gun, so I'm intrigued by the noise suppression devices. That is, I like the idea -- at least if I were to ever have to fire one (not a gun owner).

So, dumb question: How loud is a gun, anyway?


Between 130-170 dB SPL, depending on the type of ammo and gun. On average, they're around 150 dB SPL, which is like standing next to a jet engine.
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Do hunters routinely wear hearing protection?

Not the deaf ones.

How long ago did that start? Or even in frontier days did they plug their ears with cloth? Is deafness a common claim in VA hospitals from battle-line veterans?

Yep.

As for your unasked question - a suppressor lowers the volume by about 30 dB SPL. Even at best, that's at the "loud enough to cause immediate permanent damage". But a suppressor and ear muffs or earplugs, and you're in the range of "okay for a couple hours".
 
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