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2017-03-19 04:53:29 PM  
in the community of Lower Hutt

What a lower Hutt may look like:

img.fark.net
 
2017-03-19 05:07:16 PM  
We're just winning hearts and minds all over the world.
 
2017-03-19 05:15:02 PM  
For a guy doing the crime, he sounds like he got beat up
 
2017-03-19 05:36:00 PM  
Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.


I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.
 
2017-03-19 06:23:00 PM  

NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.


Just showing Malaysia returned their guy to stand trial but we won't.
 
2017-03-19 06:25:35 PM  
www.weirdir.com
 
2017-03-19 07:04:52 PM  

BalugaJoe: [www.weirdir.com image 468x199]


i.imgur.com
 
2017-03-19 08:00:46 PM  
Attache in US embassy in Wellington is wanted for questioning over incident in which he suffered a broken nose

So you could say they have a beef with him?
 
2017-03-19 08:00:47 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: We're just winning hearts and minds all over the world.


Maybe even Russia will start to regret it soon.
 
2017-03-19 08:00:53 PM  

BalugaJoe: [www.weirdir.com image 468x199]


And we're done here.

Can't believe it took that long.
 
2017-03-19 08:03:12 PM  
So nobody will give any side of what occurred.
 
2017-03-19 08:03:56 PM  
He's being expelled because some local gave him a black eye and broke his nose, got it.
 
2017-03-19 08:11:49 PM  

SwiftFox: He's being expelled because some local gave him a black eye and broke his nose, got it.


Or, perhaps, for the reason he gave for the local to kick his ass.
 
2017-03-19 08:17:30 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: We're just winning hearts and minds all over the world.


Don't take it personally. Diplomats from many countries are apparently dicks all over the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/sep/23/fine-diplomats-not-pay​i​ng-parking-tickets
 
2017-03-19 08:17:31 PM  

NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.


I read that as "here is the most recent widely-known case in which this process was invoked." I think you're reading too much into it.
 
2017-03-19 08:22:15 PM  

wejash: NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.

Just showing Malaysia returned their guy to stand trial but we won't.


Ain't that some shiat?
 
2017-03-19 08:25:12 PM  
New Zealand is the bug out plan for many of America's moneyed elite.  Donny and his clownshow are well on their way towards ruining that for everyone(rich).
 
2017-03-19 08:30:48 PM  

SwiftFox: He's being expelled because some local gave him a black eye and broke his nose, got it.


Personally, I don't like the idea of sending diplomats who get into fist fights. BUT, seeing as these things are unavoidable, I'd at least like to see diplomats who WIN them.
 
2017-03-19 08:36:32 PM  

NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.


You don't see any pertinence to the article's subject so you have to imagine all kinds  of shiat not in evidence. You're not very bright, are you?
 
2017-03-19 08:38:09 PM  
technical attache works alongside new zealands intel services?

CIA spook roughed up a suspect and the kiwis had to pull him off and roughed him up while doing it.
 
2017-03-19 08:46:55 PM  
Shouldn't have been so withering to Murray.

 
2017-03-19 08:48:16 PM  
Dammit, this is better than my headline.
 
2017-03-19 08:51:15 PM  

wellreadneck: wejash: NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.

Just showing Malaysia returned their guy to stand trial but we won't.

Ain't that some shiat?


I doubt shiatting on a girl's front porch is halal.
 
2017-03-19 08:52:41 PM  

Giltric: technical attache works alongside new zealands intel services?

CIA spook roughed up a suspect and the kiwis had to pull him off and roughed him up while doing it.


I agree that he is no doubt CIA under State Department cover.  Every US embassy has at least one CIA agent. There  is little reason for him to otherwise be working with a NZ spy agency.  Who knows what the apparent altercation was over though?
 
2017-03-19 08:56:48 PM  
Thanks a lot, Trump, you piece of schitt loser.
 
2017-03-19 08:59:12 PM  
"The Hutt" is a very Polynesian neighbourhood.

He probably offended someone. Maybe he yawned and someone thought it was a pukana.
 
2017-03-19 09:02:50 PM  

Bonzo_1116: wellreadneck: wejash: NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.

Just showing Malaysia returned their guy to stand trial but we won't.

Ain't that some shiat?

I doubt shiatting on a girl's front porch is halal.


I don't know but it sure as hell ain't kosher.
 
2017-03-19 09:05:25 PM  

Mock26: Thanks a lot, Trump, you piece of schitt loser.


...
 
2017-03-19 09:06:43 PM  

Curate's Keg: ecmoRandomNumbers: We're just winning hearts and minds all over the world.

Don't take it personally. Diplomats from many countries are apparently dicks all over the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/sep/23/fine-diplomats-not-payi​ng-parking-tickets


Whereas the Russians just get drunk and plow through pedestrians.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/russian-diplomat-avoids-prosecution-in-​f​atal-ottawa-accident-1.255057
 
2017-03-19 09:07:19 PM  

BalugaJoe: [www.weirdir.com image 468x199]


Makes sense, Mel Gibson is from those parts.
 
2017-03-19 09:13:25 PM  

secondpsych: Mock26: Thanks a lot, Trump, you piece of schitt loser.

...


Hope you did not strain your brain coming up with that response.

:-D
 
2017-03-19 09:23:25 PM  
Probably looking to rent sheep by the hour, then haggled over the price.
 
2017-03-19 09:25:07 PM  
It's been awhile, but there was this Nigerian prince with diplomatic immunity who was a serial rapist in Southern California (I think). The police couldn't arrest him, and he even boasted about it. Then someone's husband came home while he was committing another rape and blew his head off. Then the Nigerians tried to extradite the couple to their country so they could try them for murder. The couple then had to go into witness protection.

If you're a fan of cop shows, that's where the writers got that old chestnut.
 
2017-03-19 09:26:26 PM  
Well at least he didn't pull a Ryan Lochte.

www.kappit.com
 
2017-03-19 09:36:16 PM  

Moniker o' Shame: Giltric: technical attache works alongside new zealands intel services?

CIA spook roughed up a suspect and the kiwis had to pull him off and roughed him up while doing it.

I agree that he is no doubt CIA under State Department cover.  Every US embassy has at least one CIA agent. There  is little reason for him to otherwise be working with a NZ spy agency.  Who knows what the apparent altercation was over though?


The GCSB is the NZ pinkie on the Anglo fist of GCHQ and the NSA - along with Canada's CSE and the Australian Signals Directorate. There's quite a bit of formal collaboration with staff seconded between partner agencies. I used to have a flatmate who worked for the GCSB and there was a point he was thinking about applying for a secondment to Ft Meade - but as far as I understand he wouldn't have been an embassy staffer.
 
2017-03-19 09:40:19 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.

You don't see any pertinence to the article's subject so you have to imagine all kinds  of shiat not in evidence. You're not very bright, are you?


The article's subject is a U.S. diplomat who is being expelled from New Zealand for a crime committed on New Zealand soil for reasons that nobody wants to discuss in detail. The article than crowbars in a completely non-relevant final paragraph about a Malaysian diplomat who committed an indecent assault on a woman in Wellington. Do try to keep up.
 
2017-03-19 10:01:05 PM  

SwiftFox: He's being expelled because some local gave him a black eye and broke his nose, got it.


Leaving the scene without talking to the cops gives a pretty strong hint that he might not be blameless.
 
2017-03-19 10:02:06 PM  

NutWrench: BarkingUnicorn: NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.

You don't see any pertinence to the article's subject so you have to imagine all kinds  of shiat not in evidence. You're not very bright, are you?

The article's subject is a U.S. diplomat who is being expelled from New Zealand for a crime committed on New Zealand soil for reasons that nobody wants to discuss in detail. The article than crowbars in a completely non-relevant final paragraph about a Malaysian diplomat who committed an indecent assault on a woman in Wellington. Do try to keep up.


In context the writer is obviously discussing our refusal to waive immunity while even Malaysia did, for a more serious thing than a bar fight.

You're reading more into it than the farking point.  The other diplomat-gone-bad incident is about immunity...which is what half the article is about...unless you have trouble with comprehension.

We have a techie spy who got into his cups too deep, probably said something about the All-Blacks and proceeded to get his a$$ handed to him.

He should stand trial there.  The NZ legal system is fundamentally fair and unbiased.  His conduct would likely be a crime here and he is not being charged for a political reason of some sort as far as we can tell.

So there is no national interest served in not srnding him back to stand trial like any drunk tourist who abused Kiwi hospitality.
 
2017-03-19 10:17:36 PM  
Meh; given our greed & our historical lack of morality, we'd probably ally with Mordor anyways....
 
2017-03-19 10:20:42 PM  

Bonzo_1116: wellreadneck: wejash: NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.

Just showing Malaysia returned their guy to stand trial but we won't.

Ain't that some shiat?

I doubt shiatting on a girl's front porch is halal.


It was a beef..
 
2017-03-19 10:44:26 PM  
This is what happens when you let Jenny McCarthy handle immunity.
 
TWX
2017-03-19 11:10:38 PM  

Krieghund:
Leaving the scene without talking to the cops gives a pretty strong hint that he might not be blameless.


wejash: So there is no national interest served in not srnding him back to stand trial like any drunk tourist who abused Kiwi hospitality.


I wouldn't be surprised if it's general State Department policy that Embassy staff are encouraged to leave the scene prior to the arrival of police if possible. If the staffer is immune then they don't have to talk to the police anyway, and if they're not immune then they still may be able to be protected from questioning even if they have to leave.

From the State Department's point of view it makes sense they wouldn't want staff to ever be questioned under any circumstances, as there's no reason to risk that staff member inadvertently saying something that they shouldn't divulge.
 
2017-03-19 11:18:36 PM  

LordOfThePings: This is what happens when you let Jenny McCarthy handle immunity.


He was evaccinated?
 
2017-03-19 11:19:26 PM  

fusillade762: Attache in US embassy in Wellington is wanted for questioning over incident in which he suffered a broken nose

So you could say they have a beef with him?


Going to give him the boot?
 
2017-03-19 11:50:49 PM  

Bonzo_1116: wellreadneck: wejash: NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.

Just showing Malaysia returned their guy to stand trial but we won't.

Ain't that some shiat?

I doubt shiatting on a girl's front porch is halal.


Nor is indecently assaulting a woman.
 
2017-03-20 12:06:15 AM  

fusillade762: Attache in US embassy in Wellington is wanted for questioning over incident in which he suffered a broken nose

So you could say they have a beef with him?


You may leave, chef.
 
2017-03-20 12:20:21 AM  

NutWrench: I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.


I figured the charges involve taking an unsolicited dump on someone, for which he received a black eye and broken nose,
 
2017-03-20 01:09:57 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: Giltric: technical attache works alongside new zealands intel services?

CIA spook roughed up a suspect and the kiwis had to pull him off and roughed him up while doing it.

I agree that he is no doubt CIA under State Department cover.  Every US embassy has at least one CIA agent. There  is little reason for him to otherwise be working with a NZ spy agency.  Who knows what the apparent altercation was over though?


NZ is one of The Five Eyes.

fusillade762: Attache in US embassy in Wellington is wanted for questioning over incident in which he suffered a broken nose

So you could say they have a beef with him?


Snerk!
 
2017-03-20 01:25:00 AM  

Giltric: technical attache works alongside new zealands intel services?

CIA spook roughed up a suspect and the kiwis had to pull him off and roughed him up while doing it.


In other news, New Zealand has a spy agency.
 
2017-03-20 01:30:08 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Bonzo_1116: wellreadneck: wejash: NutWrench: Kind of a mysterious article until you get to the last paragraph, where it insinuates what he may be being charged with without directly accusing him:

In a high-profile case in 2014, Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman bin Ismail was forced to return to New Zealand to face criminal charges after he was accused of indecently assaulting a young woman in Wellington and defecating outside her front door.
Ismail was convicted of indecent assault last year and sentenced to nine months home detention, which he served in New Zealand.

I'm assuming the charges involve some kind of sexual assault, otherwise that's a completely random and non-sequitur paragraph to include in the article.

Just showing Malaysia returned their guy to stand trial but we won't.

Ain't that some shiat?

I doubt shiatting on a girl's front porch is halal.

It was a beef..


Wellington or heeled?
 
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