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(CBS Baltimore)   High school student banned from playing basketball for wearing her hijab. Funny, didn't seem a problem 24 games beforehand   ( baltimore.cbslocal.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, high school, Game, Basketball, 16-year-old Je'Nan Hayes, Dr. Zainab Chaudry, coach Donita Adams, high school team, Play  
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2017-03-19 01:19:50 PM  
Just a bit discriminatory.  "Needed documented evidence of wearing the headscarf for religious reasons."  If it was not a problem for the first 24 games, it should not matter now.  This smells of some Rules lawyer who did not want to play against her.  If this is actually a problem now, why has the team not forfeited every game in which she played?  ASSHOLES!
 
2017-03-19 01:27:03 PM  
Nothing educates a school system quite like a civil rights lawsuit .
 
2017-03-19 01:28:07 PM  
Seeing as the journalistic standards are so low, CAIR stands for Council on American-Islamic Relations

I'm betting it was one bigoted zebra.
 
2017-03-19 01:37:06 PM  

J Noble Daggett: I'm betting it was one bigoted zebra opposing coach.


Something tells me it was based on a complaint to keep her from playing.

We can't tell, because the "news" report i woefully lacking in info.
 
2017-03-19 01:46:24 PM  
"I feel like a rule like this is discriminatory," says Je'Nan.

Oh, there is no feel about it, it is discriminatory, girlfriend.  Like this could be costly kind of discriminatory.
 
2017-03-19 01:54:51 PM  
Sounds like playoffs gamesmanship.
 
2017-03-19 01:55:58 PM  
Documented evidence? If she had recited the shahadah for the refs, would they have even known what that was? Few Jews, Sikhs, or Muslims (or others?) carry around 'membership cards.'
 
2017-03-19 02:04:08 PM  
According to state rules, Je'Nan needed documented evidence to cover her head for religious purposes and still be able to take the court pick.
"I feel like a rule like this is discriminatory," says Je'Nan
.

Would someone need documented evidence if they wished to wear a yarmulke? If not, then yes, it's discriminatory.
 
2017-03-19 02:05:41 PM  

Somacandra: Documented evidence? If she had recited the shahadah for the refs, would they have even known what that was? Few Jews, Sikhs, or Muslims (or others?) carry around 'membership cards.'


I thought the headgear was enough of a proclamation of religious membership, but what do I know.
 
2017-03-19 02:24:41 PM  

Somacandra: Documented evidence? If she had recited the shahadah for the refs, would they have even known what that was? Few Jews, Sikhs, or Muslims (or others?) carry around 'membership cards.'


There's a simple solution for this. We can just have any Muslim wear something to denote that they are, indeed, Muslim. Say an armband. That'd work, right? It's for their own good and all, of course.
 
2017-03-19 02:58:19 PM  

Somacandra: Few Jews, Sikhs, or Muslims (or others?) carry around 'membership cards.'


In Trump's America, not just yet, no.
 
2017-03-19 03:00:24 PM  

timujin: Somacandra: Documented evidence? If she had recited the shahadah for the refs, would they have even known what that was? Few Jews, Sikhs, or Muslims (or others?) carry around 'membership cards.'

There's a simple solution for this. We can just have any Muslim wear something to denote that they are, indeed, Muslim. Say an armband. That'd work, right? It's for their own good and all, of course.


Armband would fall off , how bout a simple crescent moon patch.
 
2017-03-19 03:16:31 PM  

alechemist: timujin: Somacandra: Documented evidence? If she had recited the shahadah for the refs, would they have even known what that was? Few Jews, Sikhs, or Muslims (or others?) carry around 'membership cards.'

There's a simple solution for this. We can just have any Muslim wear something to denote that they are, indeed, Muslim. Say an armband. That'd work, right? It's for their own good and all, of course.

Armband would fall off , how bout a simple crescent moon patch.


Good point, but a you'd have to have a separate patch for each item of clothing, that'd be tedious. It would need to be something more permanent. What about a tattoo? Somewhere easy to see, like the forearm, for instance.

/ferfuxake, people, do they think the girl was wearing the hijab just for the fun of it?
 
2017-03-19 03:22:26 PM  
Why doesn't the school just buy her one of those new Nike Sport Hijabs?

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Or would that be considered favoritism?
 
2017-03-19 03:27:17 PM  
The article mentions nothing about safety concerns.
/Sooo yeah, it's just plain discrimination.
 
2017-03-19 04:14:56 PM  

Man On A Mission: J Noble Daggett: I'm betting it was one bigoted zebra opposing coach.

Something tells me it was based on a complaint to keep her from playing.

We can't tell, because the "news" report i woefully lacking in info.


If it was a coach, s/he would have had the team's victories with her playing vacated, and the team disqualified.
 
2017-03-19 04:19:06 PM  
They may have a point in this issue, but CAIR is out of their minds if they think the rules for high school sports are nationwide.
 
2017-03-19 04:25:32 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: They may have a point in this issue, but CAIR is out of their minds if they think the rules for high school sports are nationwide.


Ever heard of the National Federation of State High School Associations?

"Since 1920, The National Federation of State High School Associations has led the development of education-based interscholastic sports and activities that help students succeed in their lives. We set directions for the future by building awareness and support, improving the participation experience, establishing consistent standards and rules for competition, and helping those who oversee high school sports and activities.

The NFHS, from its offices in Indianapolis, Indiana, serves its 50 member state high school athletic/activity associations, plus the District of Columbia. The NFHS publishes playing rules in 16 sports for boys and girls competition and administers fine arts programs in speech, theater, debate and music. It provides a variety of program initiatives that reach the 18,500 high schools and over 11 million students involved in athletic and activity programs."

So, yeah... there are national standards.

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2017-03-19 04:26:15 PM  
"OK children, who wants a compulsory lesson on the judicial system? You will learn all the ways in which this is illegal because the athletic association is full of bigoted assholes".
/farkers
//fark you
 
2017-03-19 04:30:26 PM  
You would have thought they would have "extreme vetted" her before the playoffs.
 
2017-03-19 04:30:38 PM  

Redh8t: Why doesn't the school just buy her one of those new Nike Sport Hijabs?

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Or would that be considered favoritism?


If Nike was smart, they'd just give her like 10.
 
2017-03-19 04:31:33 PM  

DubyaHater: "OK children, who wants a compulsory lesson on the judicial system? You will learn all the ways in which this is illegal because the athletic association is full of bigoted assholes".
/farkers
//fark you


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2017-03-19 04:35:27 PM  

saintwrathchild: Redh8t: Why doesn't the school just buy her one of those new Nike Sport Hijabs?

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Or would that be considered favoritism?

If Nike was smart, they'd just give her like 10.


they may not be able to because she's in high school and considered amateur. although i'm sure their legal team probably knows a  way or 5 around high school codes and rules
 
2017-03-19 04:41:58 PM  
She needs documents to prove it's for religious reasons because there are so many kids out there just looking for any reason to wear a hijab for the hell of it.
 
2017-03-19 04:56:59 PM  

SuperSeriousMan: So, yeah... there are national standards.


I'm a certified Track and Field Official in OH  and NY so I'm well aware of the NFSHSA.  I'm also aware that  Utah and several other States conduct regular HS javelin competitions.  OH doesn't and NY specifically outlaws it.  Weight throw, hammer throw, triple jump and several other field events have similar fates.  OH runs 300M hurdles, NY runs 400M.
And the uniform issues are no simpler.  OH allows for stud earrings, NY outlaws all of them.  And the uniform rules change damned near every season.  
So yeah, the more you know.....
 
2017-03-19 04:58:58 PM  
They're just helping Trump MAGA, obviously.

/when the f*ck did we go so completely off the rails?
 
2017-03-19 05:06:19 PM  
If it's what she's wearing in the picture I wouldn't let her on the floor for safety reasons.
 
2017-03-19 05:26:07 PM  

eagles95: saintwrathchild: Redh8t: Why doesn't the school just buy her one of those new Nike Sport Hijabs?

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Or would that be considered favoritism?

If Nike was smart, they'd just give her like 10.

they may not be able to because she's in high school and considered amateur. although i'm sure their legal team probably knows a  way or 5 around high school codes and rules


I'm pretty sure they just supply the team.  The fact that only one girl likely wears it isn't their problem.
 
2017-03-19 05:29:42 PM  
Definitely a discriminatory and outdated mindset that has no place in modern society.


Forcing women to dress in a certain way and not having the same requirements of men I mean.
 
2017-03-19 05:49:51 PM  
Come on, America, enough already.
 
2017-03-19 05:52:34 PM  

MugzyBrown: If it's what she's wearing in the picture I wouldn't let her on the floor for safety reasons.


Do you think it might explode? Or are you just scared of everything in general?
 
2017-03-19 05:59:36 PM  

henryhill: MugzyBrown: If it's what she's wearing in the picture I wouldn't let her on the floor for safety reasons.

Do you think it might explode? Or are you just scared of everything in general?


The safety aspect pertains to strangulation issues. If another player were to grab the hijab for any reason ie: attempt to slow a fall or maliciously. It could result in injury to the hijab wearing player.

/Again, there's no mention of such an issue in the article...
 
2017-03-19 06:45:43 PM  

Twigz221: Definitely a discriminatory and outdated mindset that has no place in modern society.


Are all women who choose to wear a headscarf being oppressed?

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2017-03-19 06:58:02 PM  

Curate's Keg: Twigz221: Definitely a discriminatory and outdated mindset that has no place in modern society.

Are all women who choose to wear a headscarf being oppressed?

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You make a reasonable point regarding head coverings in public. (Fashions great!)
Yet you've missed the point of the subject when it comes to regulated sports...
 
2017-03-19 07:11:31 PM  
"We've never been informed of this rule," says Je'Nan's coach Donita Adams.
Her coach had no choice but to leave her on the bench.
"I didn't want to look at her and explain to her why she couldn't play," says Adams. "So I didn't. She just sat on the bench, staring at me with those puppy-dog eyes of hers, mouthing 'put me in, coach... put me in.'  It was pretty awkward, honestly."
 
2017-03-19 07:16:46 PM  
So she's letting her team down because they won't let her do hijab?
 
2017-03-19 07:27:01 PM  

saintwrathchild: Redh8t: Why doesn't the school just buy her one of those new Nike Sport Hijabs?

[img.fark.net image 225x225]

[img.fark.net image 189x267]

Or would that be considered favoritism?

If Nike was smart, they'd just give her like 10.


There's a thought.  Anybody here on Twitter?  Let's see if we can get the swooshs attention.
 
2017-03-19 07:54:11 PM  
Proper accommodation here would be simple - a sports outfitted Hijab, if the one she has been using is not appropriate, with a note or call from a Parent or a Religious instructor. And personally, I can't think of a good reason to not let someone play while getting that approval, so long as there's no safety concern.
 
2017-03-19 08:11:42 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Man On A Mission: J Noble Daggett: I'm betting it was one bigoted zebra opposing coach.

Something tells me it was based on a complaint to keep her from playing.

We can't tell, because the "news" report i woefully lacking in info.

If it was a coach, s/he would have had the team's victories with her playing vacated, and the team disqualified.


I doubt it. The referee of the match would have no such authority and even if he, the coach in question, or the coaches from the prior games did pursue it with the governing body then they would take time before doing and may make a different decision.

And that assumes it would warrant vacating their record (if the rule is in place for safety reasons and not because it gives them an advatage there is no reason to vacate wins) plus plenty of rules need to be challenged at the time and if they get away with it there is no recompense.
 
2017-03-19 08:22:51 PM  
It wasn't a problem before because she's from Montgomery County, where no one cares.  Now that it's March, it's tournament time, and she goes into other counties, there you'll run into people who care.  Though, I'm surprised someone in PG County raised the issue, I would think this would happen in Frederick County, or in Western Maryland, like Washington, Allegheny, or Garret Counties.
 
2017-03-19 08:25:46 PM  

Redh8t: henryhill: MugzyBrown: If it's what she's wearing in the picture I wouldn't let her on the floor for safety reasons.

Do you think it might explode? Or are you just scared of everything in general?

The safety aspect pertains to strangulation issues. If another player were to grab the hijab for any reason ie: attempt to slow a fall or maliciously. It could result in injury to the hijab wearing player.

/Again, there's no mention of such an issue in the article...


Yes or another players fingers caught. Not really commenting on the article, but there are much more form fitting head covers she could wear.. And no I don't mean the nike ones.
 
2017-03-19 08:41:51 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: It wasn't a problem before because she's from Montgomery County, where no one cares.  Now that it's March, it's tournament time, and she goes into other counties, there you'll run into people who care.  Though, I'm surprised someone in PG County raised the issue, I would think this would happen in Frederick County, or in Western Maryland, like Washington, Allegheny, or Garret Counties.


There are racist assholes everywhere.
 
2017-03-19 08:44:53 PM  
In the rec league I played in, you couldn't wear anything on your head or lose fitting clothes because fingers can get caught in them and ripped off
 
2017-03-19 09:17:23 PM  

MugzyBrown: Redh8t: henryhill: MugzyBrown: If it's what she's wearing in the picture I wouldn't let her on the floor for safety reasons.

Do you think it might explode? Or are you just scared of everything in general?

The safety aspect pertains to strangulation issues. If another player were to grab the hijab for any reason ie: attempt to slow a fall or maliciously. It could result in injury to the hijab wearing player.

/Again, there's no mention of such an issue in the article...

Yes or another players fingers caught. Not really commenting on the article, but there are much more form fitting head covers she could wear.. And no I don't mean the nike ones.


Quite right!
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This is much better!
 
2017-03-19 10:05:48 PM  
Hers is way to loose. This one for $5 would be much better
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2017-03-19 10:39:01 PM  

Redh8t: henryhill: MugzyBrown: If it's what she's wearing in the picture I wouldn't let her on the floor for safety reasons.

Do you think it might explode? Or are you just scared of everything in general?

The safety aspect pertains to strangulation issues. If another player were to grab the hijab for any reason ie: attempt to slow a fall or maliciously. It could result in injury to the hijab wearing player.

/Again, there's no mention of such an issue in the article...


There's also the fact that fingers can get caught in loose clothing, especially in a sport like basketball. In the rec league I played in, you could not wear any clothing on your head (including head bands or bandannas) and clothing could not be "loose" at all. I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and say that is the reason why (liability).

But then again, I don't automatically get outraged at everything which is why I am so unpopular on here.
 
2017-03-19 11:06:44 PM  
If they REALLY want to get on her case about the looseness, then there ARE options...

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But the stated reason is that she hasn't been documented as having a good reason to cover her head. Which should be easy to clear up with a statement from her Imam or parents.

Give them a form to fill out that says, "She's a faithful Muslim and back the f*ck off" and be done with it. Playing Sneaky Pete with rules like this with enforcement being kind of lackadaisical after so many games makes folks look bad. It could just be a snafu, it could be a rival school just being dicks, it could be some Screaming Mimi on the School Board wailing, but it's an easy fix. And the school should have cleared that up BEFORE the game. And in all honesty, why it wasn't cleared up by a second is beyond me.

My daughter is Buddhist. She's not killing critters in biology, that's not something that she's comfortable with, and beyond just the "ick" factor. School wants her to kill critters for a class, then they'd best let her sit this one out, because she sticks to her guns about having compassion. And considering that she lost a friend this weekend because she called 911 when she tried to kill herself, because she wasn't going to sit by and LET someone die, her beliefs and commitment are damn strong, and I'm proud as Hells of her. Her friend isn't well pleased with her, but she did the right thing, and she saved her life. Knowing that it was going to cost them their friendship. It's easy for teens to sometimes lose sight of application of their beliefs. Supporting our kids when they DO have convictions, that's important.

All said and done, get her a tighter sports hijab, and make it part of the school uniform, and move the f*ck on people. It's the second most numerous faith in the world. We can adapt to that--the same as we adapted to living with Jews and Hindus.
 
2017-03-19 11:47:28 PM  

JerseyTim: She needs documents to prove it's for religious reasons because there are so many kids out there just looking for any reason to wear a hijab for the hell of it.


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2017-03-19 11:50:15 PM  

HighOnCraic: encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com


Heh. Cute.
 
2017-03-20 05:44:16 AM  
#MAGA
 
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