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(The Hill)   Alternative Facts v2.0 is live. I'm pissed because there are no new features, just word-play tweaks and balancing. Definitely not buying the expansion when it comes out   ( thehill.com) divider line
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2017-03-18 11:02:24 PM  
FTA:  "2+2=4 and 3+1=4... see alternative facts!"

No, different facts with the same result.
 
2017-03-19 01:47:10 AM  
A polished turd is still a turd
 
2017-03-19 03:03:05 AM  

atibus: FTA:  "2+2=4 and 3+1=4... see alternative facts!"

No, different facts with the same result.


She's a statistician at heart, and her language is always up for interepretation. The real skill is not in collating the answers, but how you phrase the questions. Answers are thus fluid. That's how she's seen the world, for years, and now that she's rejoined us in the fact based community, it's hard to abandon that mentality. In fact, she's pretty gifted at deflection and I'm not afraid to give her credit for that. She's earning that paycheck still. In the worst way possible, for terrible people, but she's good on the targeted spin. She doesn't have to fool the media or the general population, just keep the fan base pumped...
 
2017-03-19 03:12:22 AM  
Wouldnt it be more constructive to just call "alternative facts" as "fiction" and be done with it?
 
2017-03-19 03:40:35 AM  
Trump and Conway are making nihilism fashionable.
 
2017-03-19 03:42:51 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: A polished turd is still a turd


That explains Trump's spray tan
 
2017-03-19 03:52:35 AM  
True Lies v Alternative Facts?
 
2017-03-19 04:38:53 AM  

Bucky Katt: Trump and Conway are making nihilism fashionable.


That sounds exhausting.
 
2017-03-19 04:54:05 AM  

holdmybones: Bucky Katt: Trump and Conway are making nihilism fashionable.

That sounds exhausting.


I know I'm exhausted. It must be from all the winning.
 
2017-03-19 05:14:52 AM  
She's desperately trying to stay on the payroll after the microwave fiasco.
 
2017-03-19 05:16:26 AM  

stoli n coke: She's desperately trying to stay on the payroll after the microwave fiasco.


Littongate?

/I know, dated references of defunct brands
 
2017-03-19 05:16:42 AM  
But 500,000 people is still more than 30,000, Kells.
 
2017-03-19 05:16:51 AM  

Bucky Katt: Trump and Conway are making nihilism fashionable.


Nihilism
Denialism
 
2017-03-19 05:18:35 AM  
Poor gal's still shaken up over all the lives lost at Bowling Green.
 
2017-03-19 05:26:09 AM  
I think she waited too long. If she had put forward this explanation later that day or the day after, it might have worked, but after waiting so long it's pretty firmly become a euphemism for lying.
 
2017-03-19 05:26:12 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2017-03-19 05:38:20 AM  

RINO: I think she waited too long. If she had put forward this explanation later that day or the day after, it might have worked, but after waiting so long it's pretty firmly become a euphemism for lying.


No, if she'd said it later that day it wouldn't have made any goddamned sense, because she was trying to explain what the hell Sean Spicer was doing by telling a series of easily disprovable lies about the Prince of Orange's inaugural attendance figures. Back then, "alternative facts" literally meant that -- the media said some "facts," Spicer gave an alternative set of "facts," and who's to say whose "facts" are correct?

It's now been long enough that most people have forgotten everything but the phrase "alternative facts," so she can retcon it as meaning "additional true information," and some people will nod along and say, yeah, I guess that's what that phrase could mean.

But "additional true information" makes no sense in the original context for "alternative facts," which was explaining how Sean Spicer could stand up in front of the media and say things that every single person knew was factually untrue, and which could be proven untrue with no more than 30 seconds of Googling.
 
2017-03-19 05:39:46 AM  

hubiestubert: She's a statistician at heart,


I think you are confusing statistician with political hack.
 
2017-03-19 05:47:11 AM  
Arrived broken and nonsensical.  Would not buy again.
 
2017-03-19 05:48:09 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2017-03-19 05:51:18 AM  
Did she not have the farking brains to say 'Okay it was a very unfortunate turn of phrase that has been used to make us look bad and I regret saying it. I meant to imply different information about the same subject and the wording did not convey that well'
 
2017-03-19 05:51:40 AM  
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2017-03-19 05:55:48 AM  
 
2017-03-19 06:12:03 AM  

gaspode: Did she not have the farking brains to say 'Okay it was a very unfortunate turn of phrase that has been used to make us look bad and I regret saying it. I meant to imply different information about the same subject and the wording did not convey that well'


Donnie doesn't like people who apologize. Never admit that you were wrong, always double down.
 
2017-03-19 06:20:01 AM  

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Your jib.  I likes the code of it.

May I inquire, good sir or madam, as to the pertinent particulars necessitized for subscribing to your most mellifluous dispatches on the doubleplusungood issues of the day?
 
2017-03-19 06:21:37 AM  
You know, she might be kinda cute and funny if she hadnt sold her soul for an orange dick up her ass
 
2017-03-19 06:22:32 AM  

OooShiny: Surool: times 17.3.84 bb speech malreported africa rectify
times 19.12.83 forecasts 3 yp 4th quarter 83 misprints verify current issue
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Your jib.  I likes the code of it.

May I inquire, good sir or madam, as to the pertinent particulars necessitized for subscribing to your most mellifluous dispatches on the doubleplusungood issues of the day?


OooShiny's doubleplusfancy wording unbellyfeels Newspeak.
 
2017-03-19 06:24:14 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: A polished turd is still a turd


I can alter my reply on facebook. A website that came *after* this one. just sayin
 
2017-03-19 06:50:36 AM  

RINO: I think she waited too long. If she had put forward this explanation later that day or the day after, it might have worked, but after waiting so long it's pretty firmly become a euphemism for lying.


It took her that long to work out the 3 + 1 bit.
 
2017-03-19 07:16:04 AM  

hubiestubert: atibus: FTA:  "2+2=4 and 3+1=4... see alternative facts!"

No, different facts with the same result.

She's a statistician at heart, and her language is always up for interepretation. The real skill is not in collating the answers, but how you phrase the questions. Answers are thus fluid. That's how she's seen the world, for years, and now that she's rejoined us in the fact based community, it's hard to abandon that mentality. In fact, she's pretty gifted at deflection and I'm not afraid to give her credit for that. She's earning that paycheck still. In the worst way possible, for terrible people, but she's good on the targeted spin. She doesn't have to fool the media or the general population, just keep the fan base pumped...


One of her teachers said she never really grasped the material, and instead used her energy to battle him on every single point, despite not really grasping the material. Her mind is weak, she just found a career where you don't have to win an argument, you just need to waste everyone's farking time.
 
2017-03-19 07:32:50 AM  
It rained during Trump's golf game because of a complex interplay of atmospheric pressure, temperature, and moisture in the air. It rained during Trump's golf game because members of Obama's shadow government in NOAA decided to seed the clouds. Potato, tomato. Same difference.
 
2017-03-19 07:34:39 AM  
She originally used the phrase to defend Spicey's characterization of Trump's inauguration crowd size.

When this bunch stonewalls with bullsh*t over TRIVIAL MATTERS we can safely assume they'll lie about ANYTHING.
 
2017-03-19 07:43:45 AM  
By the way, every Farker should be familiar with the phrase, "incidental collection."

Forewarned is forearmed.
 
2017-03-19 07:58:12 AM  

kliq: hubiestubert: atibus: FTA:  "2+2=4 and 3+1=4... see alternative facts!"

No, different facts with the same result.

She's a statistician at heart, and her language is always up for interepretation. The real skill is not in collating the answers, but how you phrase the questions. Answers are thus fluid. That's how she's seen the world, for years, and now that she's rejoined us in the fact based community, it's hard to abandon that mentality. In fact, she's pretty gifted at deflection and I'm not afraid to give her credit for that. She's earning that paycheck still. In the worst way possible, for terrible people, but she's good on the targeted spin. She doesn't have to fool the media or the general population, just keep the fan base pumped...

One of her teachers said she never really grasped the material, and instead used her energy to battle him on every single point, despite not really grasping the material. Her mind is weak, she just found a career where you don't have to win an argument, you just need to waste everyone's farking time.


Her company's entire purpose has never been to deliver actual numbers, but numbers that could be directed and used. The key is always to never drink the sweet stuff yourself. She does fine, because she doesn't care. Truth? Lies? Pay me is the only real language she speaks, and the moment that Donnie drops, she'll be back to her own company, and will disappear into the background again. Undeterred.
 
2017-03-19 08:12:01 AM  

Surool: times 17.3.84 bb speech malreported africa rectify

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is this some kind of shorthand for something?
 
2017-03-19 08:13:36 AM  
Kelly... let me illustrate alternative facts for you:

Fact:  Trump is a twat.
Alternative Fact:  Trump is the best president ever.
Damn Dirty Lie:  see alternative fact above.
 
2017-03-19 08:20:27 AM  
scrutify.net
 
2017-03-19 08:36:45 AM  

WeedBong420: You know, she might be kinda cute and funny if she hadnt sold her soul for an orange dick up her ass


And if she didn't get smashed in the face with a shovel at a very young age.
 
2017-03-19 08:42:51 AM  
Will someone stick a dick in her mouth and shut her up, please
 
2017-03-19 08:49:41 AM  
Some of the new facts are co-op only. Why won't think think of the offline deplorables?
 
2017-03-19 08:49:45 AM  

kliq: hubiestubert: atibus: FTA:  "2+2=4 and 3+1=4... see alternative facts!"

No, different facts with the same result.

She's a statistician at heart, and her language is always up for interepretation. The real skill is not in collating the answers, but how you phrase the questions. Answers are thus fluid. That's how she's seen the world, for years, and now that she's rejoined us in the fact based community, it's hard to abandon that mentality. In fact, she's pretty gifted at deflection and I'm not afraid to give her credit for that. She's earning that paycheck still. In the worst way possible, for terrible people, but she's good on the targeted spin. She doesn't have to fool the media or the general population, just keep the fan base pumped...

One of her teachers said she never really grasped the material, and instead used her energy to battle him on every single point, despite not really grasping the material. Her mind is weak, she just found a career where you don't have to win an argument, you just need to waste everyone's farking time.


I had a classmate in law school like that.
 
2017-03-19 08:51:37 AM  

HighOnCraic: [scrutify.net image 500x500]


Why does everyone Trump-related have such a dreadful underbite?
 
2017-03-19 08:58:25 AM  

Gyrfalcon: kliq: hubiestubert: atibus: FTA:  "2+2=4 and 3+1=4... see alternative facts!"

No, different facts with the same result.

She's a statistician at heart, and her language is always up for interepretation. The real skill is not in collating the answers, but how you phrase the questions. Answers are thus fluid. That's how she's seen the world, for years, and now that she's rejoined us in the fact based community, it's hard to abandon that mentality. In fact, she's pretty gifted at deflection and I'm not afraid to give her credit for that. She's earning that paycheck still. In the worst way possible, for terrible people, but she's good on the targeted spin. She doesn't have to fool the media or the general population, just keep the fan base pumped...

One of her teachers said she never really grasped the material, and instead used her energy to battle him on every single point, despite not really grasping the material. Her mind is weak, she just found a career where you don't have to win an argument, you just need to waste everyone's farking time.

I had a classmate in law school like that.


img.fark.net
 
2017-03-19 09:00:22 AM  
For the longest time I couldn't figure out why these shows keep inviting these nimrods back. But I got it now, I got it.

They're waiting for the idiot to trot out something infinitely quotable, and then it blows up on the internet and is a viral video.
 
2017-03-19 09:06:18 AM  
"Two plus two is four. Three plus one is four. Partly cloudy, partly sunny. Glass half full, glass half empty. Those are alternative facts," she said.

Alternative:
(of one or more things) available as another possibility.ex: "the various alternative methods for resolving disputes"
Fact:
a thing that is indisputably the case.

If something is a fact, there is no alternative.  It is.  There may be alternative ways to describe something, but the facts themselves remain the same.  But then again, liars are gonna lie, so there's no surprise there.
 
2017-03-19 09:39:36 AM  

his name is my name too: Surool: times 17.3.84 bb speech malreported africa rectify

times 19.12.83 forecasts 3 yp 4th quarter 83 misprints verify current issue

times 14.2.84 miniplenty malquoted chocolate rectify

times 3.12.83 reporting bb dayorder doubleplusungood refs unpersons rewrite fullwise upsub antefiling

is this some kind of shorthand for something?


Wait, really?

In case you're serious, and for any folks playing along at home who might be confused, go read _1984_. You're overdue, if you haven't, yet are into politics enough to read/post in the Poltab.
 
2017-03-19 10:09:56 AM  

cman: Wouldnt it be more constructive to just call "alternative facts" as "fiction" and be done with it?


How about "lies".
 
2017-03-19 10:23:30 AM  

alienated: MaudlinMutantMollusk: A polished turd is still a turd

I can alter my reply on facebook. A website that came *after* this one. just sayin


It's not a "technology" thing, it's making you have to own up to your statements, rather than saying something asinine, then going back to alter those statements when getting called out for bullshiat.

Not accusing you of this, mind you, just pointing out why they might not want to let people edit posts. There are total trolls here who would start a flame war, go back and edit their posts, and then make it look like everyone was attacking them for no reason, I can guarantee you...
 
2017-03-19 10:37:49 AM  

SpaceyCat: "Two plus two is four. Three plus one is four. Partly cloudy, partly sunny. Glass half full, glass half empty. Those are alternative facts," she said.

Alternative:
(of one or more things) available as another possibility.ex: "the various alternative methods for resolving disputes"
Fact:
a thing that is indisputably the case.

If something is a fact, there is no alternative.  It is.  There may be alternative ways to describe something, but the facts themselves remain the same.  But then again, liars are gonna lie, so there's no surprise there.


I think that she should've said "additional facts."  But in this administration you're only allowed to clarify; not acknowledge any mistakes or even learn from them.
 
2017-03-19 11:28:52 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: It rained during Trump's golf game because of a complex interplay of atmospheric pressure, temperature, and moisture in the air. It rained during Trump's golf game because members of Obama's shadow government in NOAA decided to seed the clouds until the moment he stepped up to the tee, at which point the sun began to shine, and he then hit a hole in one. Potato, tomato. Same difference.


FTFY
 
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