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2017-03-18 10:40:02 PM  
Russia. That's how NATO works Trump.

You remember Russia, don't you? That country you colluded with to get elected?
 
2017-03-18 10:56:18 PM  
Or much of anything else, for that matter
 
2017-03-19 02:03:20 AM  
Yet, the shiatgibbon in chief wants to spend an additional $54B on defense
 
2017-03-19 03:02:09 AM  
shiat, if I had a nickel for everything that Dumpf doesn't understand..............
 
2017-03-19 03:14:15 AM  

harleyquinnical: Yet, the shiatgibbon in chief wants to spend an additional $54B on defense


It might be easier to list the things that Donnie understands, than trying to enumerate the things he doesn't...
 
2017-03-19 03:15:30 AM  

Bob Falfa: shiat, if I had a nickel for everything that Dumpf doesn't understand..............


You'd be the single wealthiest human that has ever been on this planet...
 
2017-03-19 03:47:04 AM  
Dimwit Donnie doesn't understand how any part of the government works.  President Bannon won't explain it to him.
 
2017-03-19 04:43:02 AM  
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2017-03-19 05:00:25 AM  
Your headline's three words too long, subs.
 
2017-03-19 05:07:27 AM  
Well, he has heard Barron say, "neato," so how different is it from Nato?
 
2017-03-19 05:07:36 AM  
Christ almighty, he thinks the government works like a mob movie.
 
2017-03-19 05:14:14 AM  
Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.
 
2017-03-19 05:14:39 AM  
It's not protection money you orange jackhole.
 
2017-03-19 05:17:04 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.


You hate to defend him, but you seem to do it an awful lot.
 
2017-03-19 05:19:19 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.


The treaty RECOMMENDS it. It is not, and never has been, a REQUIREMENT, for membership.

If the US wanted to spend less, for instance, it would not be wrong for us to do so.
 
2017-03-19 05:21:06 AM  
This shiat with the orange ape needs to drag on for years and years, so the american people will be cured of voter apathy for at least a generation...

/Unless he meets with an unfortunate accident by one of his own handlers first, ofcourse.
 
2017-03-19 05:30:56 AM  
You elected George Sr and Jr, Now you have Donnie and he has Donnie Jr. So I say USA deserves to go down in style: Donald Trump Jr. 2028, because yes, its ALWAYS possible to get more retarded.
 
2017-03-19 05:35:49 AM  
His supports still won't care and will blindly follow him regardless.
 
2017-03-19 05:47:27 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: His supports still won't care and will blindly follow him regardless.


The base doesn't matter. They were never enough to swing the election. Several swing voters, however, seem to finally be getting what most people should have already know.

The teachers I know that voted Trump finally came around after Betsy DeVos, who is in the top 5 running for Most Staggeringly Unqualified Cabinet Member ever.
 
2017-03-19 05:49:07 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue


Only one of the NATO member countries orders tanks its armed forces don't want, spends trillions on next-gen fighters whilst not providing its citizens with healthcare, and operates a Pacific Fleet whilst counting the expenditure against the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.

It's the same country that Article 5 of the NATO treaty was invoked to provide military support for, the only time it has happened in the organisation's history.
 
2017-03-19 06:05:35 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.


By which you mean there's a pledge for countries to get it to 2% by 2024, rather than a stipulation that says it should be at 2% already. #AlternativeTreaties
 
2017-03-19 06:06:37 AM  

F5 F5 Esc: operates a Pacific Fleet whilst counting the expenditure against the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.


So... you don't have any better understanding of what NATO is than Trump does, is what you're saying?

Do you also thing NAFTA doesn't apply to shipments that pass through international waters between the US and Mexico?
 
2017-03-19 06:09:15 AM  
It's hard to tell where the ignorance ends and the lying begins.
 
2017-03-19 06:10:22 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.


The treaty recommends 2% of GDP on defence by 2024.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/02/daily-chart-11
 
2017-03-19 06:13:09 AM  

Creidiki: You elected George Sr and Jr, Now you have Donnie and he has Donnie Jr. So I say USA deserves to go down in style: Donald Trump Jr. 2028, because yes, its ALWAYS possible to get more retarded.


Just wait til Prezdent Eric Trump takes office.
 
2017-03-19 06:28:49 AM  
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2017-03-19 06:33:37 AM  

Fury Pilot: vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.

The treaty recommends 2% of GDP on defence by 2024.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/02/daily-chart-11


Treaties are just like NAFTA or the Constitution - they're just Goddamned pieces of paper you can tear up if you don't like them. Real men like The Donald don't respect mere pieces of paper.
That's how he's making America Great Again - by making us the nation that nobody else on the planet can trust. They will learn to fear us, instead - that's better, in the mind of a thug.
 
2017-03-19 06:34:58 AM  
I just had an idea, the best, the most luxurious idea in the entire world, the yugest idea anyone has ever had. The USA declares bankruptcy and then all international agreements will be void. Then we reincorporate under a new name, same people and everything, just a new name, something like - oh, I don't know - the United States of America Starring Donald Trump. Plus we can write off all that debt we owe to China, since the USASDT can't be liable for the debts of the USA. USA? Who's that? Never heard of him.

It worked with casinos. And hotels. Ivanka, get my lawyers on the phone. Never mind, I'll just send them a tweet.
 
2017-03-19 06:35:43 AM  

stoli n coke: The teachers I know that voted Trump


Hopefully people that dumb will be kept away from impressionable children...
 
2017-03-19 06:37:18 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: It's hard to tell where the ignorance ends and the lying begins.


I assume a pretty broad overlap; a near-singularity of ignorance and mendacity, if you will.
 
2017-03-19 06:40:30 AM  

crozzo: I just had an idea, the best, the most luxurious idea in the entire world, the yugest idea anyone has ever had. The USA declares bankruptcy and then all international agreements will be void. Then we reincorporate under a new name, same people and everything, just a new name, something like - oh, I don't know - the United States of America Starring Donald Trump. Plus we can write off all that debt we owe to China, since the USASDT can't be liable for the debts of the USA. USA? Who's that? Never heard of him.

It worked with casinos. And hotels. Ivanka, get my lawyers on the phone. Never mind, I'll just send them a tweet.


USA SDT!

Sexual Disease Transmitter?
 
2017-03-19 06:45:18 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.


Er... why not calculate how long it would take for you to be paid (before taxes) that 2% at your current pay grade, whilst comparing it against the just-beneath-the-surface* poverty in your own country?

*By that I mean obvious.
 
2017-03-19 06:48:17 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.


This.  If every NATO member lived up to their commitments, that would result in a much stronger NATO, which hurts Russia.  We've been subsidizing Europe's defense for 72 years now.  It's time they payed their fare share.

This is Trump playing hardball.  It's not diplomacy, it's "We'll walk away from the deal if we think we are getting screwed".  Diplomacy hasn't worked.  Maybe this will.  And if it doesn't, then the Europeans will only have themselves to blame if shiat falls apart.

The more I see of Trump's policies, the more he looks like the most anti-Russian president since Ronald Reagan.  He's screwing them economically with his energy policies by taking actions guaranteed to keep oil and gas prices low, which hurts Russia which gets most of its money from oil and gas exports.  And it hurts Putin personally because his wealth comes from skimming off oil and gas profits.  That, combined with scaring NATO countries that have been spending just half of what they committed to spending on defense into spending into living up to their commitments on defense spending is going to weaken Russia's ability to project power beyond it's borders.

That, combined with increased US defense spending, isn't going to help Russia.  It makes Russia comparatively weaker, especially since they don't have the money to spend much more on their military.

So all the neo-McCarthyites who see Russian boogeymen hiding under the beds at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue might want to re-evaluate their positions.  But they probably won't.  It's become the narrative, a way to explain a lost election loss that to them is so inexplicable that it must be the result of foreign interference.
 
2017-03-19 06:58:24 AM  

dittybopper: The more I see of Trump's policies, the more he looks like the most anti-Russian president since Ronald Reagan.


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Good one, comrade dittybopper!

img.fark.net
Trumpy's not gonna bite the hand that feeds him and his demon spawn.
 
2017-03-19 06:58:42 AM  

Jim_Callahan: So... you don't have any better understanding of what NATO is than Trump does, is what you're saying?


Please list all NATO exercises carried out in the Pacific. Also, feel free to list the NATO high-readiness units in the Pacific.

I served alongside US forces in the Pacific area and we were under the overall control of the UN, not NATO.
 
2017-03-19 07:04:10 AM  

dittybopper: vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.

This.  If every NATO member lived up to their commitments, that would result in a much stronger NATO, which hurts Russia.  We've been subsidizing Europe's defense for 72 years now.  It's time they payed their fare share.

This is Trump playing hardball.  It's not diplomacy, it's "We'll walk away from the deal if we think we are getting screwed".  Diplomacy hasn't worked.  Maybe this will.  And if it doesn't, then the Europeans will only have themselves to blame if shiat falls apart.

The more I see of Trump's policies, the more he looks like the most anti-Russian president since Ronald Reagan.  He's screwing them economically with his energy policies by taking actions guaranteed to keep oil and gas prices low, which hurts Russia which gets most of its money from oil and gas exports.  And it hurts Putin personally because his wealth comes from skimming off oil and gas profits.  That, combined with scaring NATO countries that have been spending just half of what they committed to spending on defense into spending into living up to their commitments on defense spending is going to weaken Russia's ability to project power beyond it's borders.

That, combined with increased US defense spending, isn't going to help Russia.  It makes Russia comparatively weaker, especially since they don't have the money to spend much more on their military.

So all the neo-McCarthyites who see Russian boogeymen hiding under the beds at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue might want to re-evaluate their positions.  But they probably won't.  It's become the narrative, a way to explain a lost election loss that to them is so inexplicable that it must be the result of foreign interference.


How much money do you make writing pro-Trump stuff on internet forums? I honestly think I could be good at it and would love to apply.
 
2017-03-19 07:46:10 AM  
Trump doesn't understand how this works, Trump doesn't understand how any of this works.

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2017-03-19 07:47:07 AM  
I found it interesting what the author of The Art of the Deal had to say about Trump. He said Donald never reads anything and makes no effort to learn anything, he operates on what he "knows" which really equates to what he feels. He also is completely opposed to listening to opposing points of view.
 
2017-03-19 07:48:34 AM  
The US is like that guy who offered to carpool his colleagues to work every day without asking for anything in return. Despite the fact that they could quite comfortably pay for transportation themselves, the US insisted on paying for them. Because the US wanted to look good in the eyes of management. And the US got many perks and promotions as a result of doing so.

Then, after 70 years of doing this, the US suddenly starts asking his colleagues to pay for gas. Without understanding that it was his generosity that gave him his privilege and position in the first place.

It's typical of Trump to not understand the bedrock of geopolitics that his forebears laid down in the generations before he was born, so he comes into the situation as a neophyte not understanding certain agreements and policies and he thinks he can rip them apart and start anew without disrupting any of the established institutions that previous generations worked so hard to maintain.

In short, he is a farking moron. This is the kind of nearsighted shiat that starts world wars.
 
2017-03-19 07:51:26 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.


Is this just for the lulz? 'Cause that mistake has already been corrected numerous times in the last two threads.
 
2017-03-19 07:52:53 AM  

dittybopper: vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.

This.  If every NATO member lived up to their commitments, that would result in a much stronger NATO, which hurts Russia.  We've been subsidizing Europe's defense for 72 years now.  It's time they payed their fare share.

This is Trump playing hardball.  It's not diplomacy, it's "We'll walk away from the deal if we think we are getting screwed".  Diplomacy hasn't worked.  Maybe this will.  And if it doesn't, then the Europeans will only have themselves to blame if shiat falls apart.

The more I see of Trump's policies, the more he looks like the most anti-Russian president since Ronald Reagan.  He's screwing them economically with his energy policies by taking actions guaranteed to keep oil and gas prices low, which hurts Russia which gets most of its money from oil and gas exports.  And it hurts Putin personally because his wealth comes from skimming off oil and gas profits.  That, combined with scaring NATO countries that have been spending just half of what they committed to spending on defense into spending into living up to their commitments on defense spending is going to weaken Russia's ability to project power beyond it's borders.

That, combined with increased US defense spending, isn't going to help Russia.  It makes Russia comparatively weaker, especially since they don't have the money to spend much more on their military.

So all the neo-McCarthyites who see Russian boogeymen hiding under the beds at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue might want to re-evaluate their positions.  But they probably won't.  It's become the narrative, a way to explain a lost election loss that to them is so inexplicable that it must be the result of foreign interference.


Dude, Donnie's not going to sleep with you if you lie for him on the Intetwebz...

I mean, he might let you pee on him a little, but chances are the water play is going to the other direction even if you are invited down to Mar-a-lago...
 
2017-03-19 07:53:44 AM  

Ishkur: The US is like that guy who offered to carpool his colleagues to work every day without asking for anything in return. Despite the fact that they could quite comfortably pay for transportation themselves, the US insisted on paying for them. Because the US wanted to look good in the eyes of management. And the US got many perks and promotions as a result of doing so.

Then, after 70 years of doing this, the US suddenly starts asking his colleagues to pay for gas. Without understanding that it was his generosity that gave him his privilege and position in the first place.

It's typical of Trump to not understand the bedrock of geopolitics that his forebears laid down in the generations before he was born, so he comes into the situation as a neophyte not understanding certain agreements and policies and he thinks he can rip them apart and start anew without disrupting any of the established institutions that previous generations worked so hard to maintain.

In short, he is a farking moron. This is the kind of nearsighted shiat that starts world wars.


I am the Walrus?
 
2017-03-19 08:00:48 AM  

vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.


Yes but that's okay because the US wants to have a presence in the other 28 countries because it establishes US control and dominance.

Do you understand that? In exchange for other member nations to not have much of a military, the US will put their military in other countries. That is a far more influential trade off than asking the other counties to pony up.

The alternative is asking the other countries to pony up, then they have a much more robust military and therefore a stronger presence and position and privilege in negotiations which means less influence for the US, and America will probably remove their military presence or reduce it in other countries, which means less control over other countries and less power and position in negotiations. That means America is a non-entity in geopolitics, simply one of many pawns instead of the most important chess piece. Do you really want that?

That's what Trump wants. He's arguing like it's still 1946. It's not 1946 anymore. In the 70s and 80s, America outsourced its economic might to the rest of the world. Trump is now arguing that it should outsource its military to the rest of the world as well. And that is usually the last throes of a civilization: Relying on foreign militaries for control. The same shiat that happened with the Greeks, the Romans, the Spanish, the British and the Soviets.
 
2017-03-19 08:03:28 AM  

jso2897: Fury Pilot: vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.

The treaty recommends 2% of GDP on defence by 2024.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/02/daily-chart-11

Treaties are just like NAFTA or the Constitution - they're just Goddamned pieces of paper you can tear up if you don't like them. Real men like The Donald don't respect mere pieces of paper.
That's how he's making America Great Again - by making us the nation that nobody else on the planet can trust. They will learn to fear us, instead - that's better, in the mind of a thug.


Unless that piece of paper makes him think you owe him money (even if it doesn't), then he will see you in court!
 
2017-03-19 08:17:21 AM  

harleyquinnical: Yet, the shiatgibbon in chief wants to spend an additional $54B on defense a military buildup.


Big difference.
 
2017-03-19 08:25:42 AM  

Alucard1191: I am the Walrus?


coo coo cachoo
 
2017-03-19 08:30:31 AM  

dittybopper: vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.

This.  If every NATO member lived up to their commitments, that would result in a much stronger NATO, which hurts Russia.  We've been subsidizing Europe's defense for 72 years now.  It's time they payed their fare share.

This is Trump playing hardball.  It's not diplomacy, it's "We'll walk away from the deal if we think we are getting screwed".  Diplomacy hasn't worked.  Maybe this will.  And if it doesn't, then the Europeans will only have themselves to blame if shiat falls apart.

The more I see of Trump's policies, the more he looks like the most anti-Russian president since Ronald Reagan.  He's screwing them economically with his energy policies by taking actions guaranteed to keep oil and gas prices low, which hurts Russia which gets most of its money from oil and gas exports.  And it hurts Putin personally because his wealth comes from skimming off oil and gas profits.  That, combined with scaring NATO countries that have been spending just half of what they committed to spending on defense into spending into living up to their commitments on defense spending is going to weaken Russia's ability to project power beyond it's borders.

That, combined with increased US defense spending, isn't going to help Russia.  It makes Russia comparatively weaker, especially since they don't have the money to spend much more on their military.

So all the neo-McCarthyites who see Russian boogeymen hiding under the beds at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue might want to re-evaluate their positions.  But they probably won't.  It's become the narrative, a way to explain a lost election loss that to them is so inexplicable that it must be the result of foreign interference.


Except Russia hasn't been our primary MILITARY opponent in over 30 years. We broke them that way in the 80s.

This b/s chrome&hardware buildup Trump has such a hardon for is absolutely useless in today's world of soft and asymmetric warfare, and only marginally effective for minor players like Best Korea which is better fought by getting China on board with sanctions.

Spending lots of money on expensive military junk unneeded for battles we won't be fighting is, need I remind you, how we broke the Evil Empire in the first place...and Putin was right there, a KGB officer, taking notes. So saying "my god! We need to rebuild our armed forces in a show of Strength! We need to show Russia What We're Made Of!" is exactly what Putin would love to see.

You want to scare him? Put some money into an independent Kurdistan. Kick Erdogan's ass to the curb. Stop acting like a two-bit thug and start acting like a leader. Make it clear to all involved that IF Putin decides to send in the tanks, America WILL respond, or else America WILL NOT intervene at all if Europe decides to unite and drive the Russkies back to Siberia.

But none of this "maybe we will, maybe we wont" crap.
 
2017-03-19 08:50:55 AM  

Gyrfalcon: dittybopper: vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.

This.  If every NATO member lived up to their commitments, that would result in a much stronger NATO, which hurts Russia.  We've been subsidizing Europe's defense for 72 years now.  It's time they payed their fare share.

This is Trump playing hardball.  It's not diplomacy, it's "We'll walk away from the deal if we think we are getting screwed".  Diplomacy hasn't worked.  Maybe this will.  And if it doesn't, then the Europeans will only have themselves to blame if shiat falls apart.

The more I see of Trump's policies, the more he looks like the most anti-Russian president since Ronald Reagan.  He's screwing them economically with his energy policies by taking actions guaranteed to keep oil and gas prices low, which hurts Russia which gets most of its money from oil and gas exports.  And it hurts Putin personally because his wealth comes from skimming off oil and gas profits.  That, combined with scaring NATO countries that have been spending just half of what they committed to spending on defense into spending into living up to their commitments on defense spending is going to weaken Russia's ability to project power beyond it's borders.

That, combined with increased US defense spending, isn't going to help Russia.  It makes Russia comparatively weaker, especially since they don't have the money to spend much more on their military.

So all the neo-McCarthyites who see Russian boogeymen hiding under the beds at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue might want to re-evaluate their positions.  But they probably won't.  It's become the narrative, a way to explain a lost election loss that to them is so inexplicable that it must be the result of foreign interference.

Except Russia hasn't been our primary MILITARY opponent in over 30 years. We broke them that way in the 80s ...


I also enjoyed the preposterous absurdity of the argument that Trump is somehow "keeping oil prices low", and that that is "hurting Russian producers". Even if Trump possessed or was exercising the power to do that (he does not) it would be , and IS, hurting American producers a lot worse than the Russians.
Low oil prices mean the Russians make less money - they are shutting American producers down.
U.S. production is only now starting to rebound a little bit, now that OPEC production cuts have nudged prices upward again. None of it has anything to do with anything the Orange Shiatgibbon did or didn't do - he's a helpless, flailing infant, actually.
It's all hogwash, cut 'n pasted from Breitbart or some such hole.
 
2017-03-19 08:53:41 AM  

stoli n coke: Christ almighty, he thinks the government works like a mob movie.


img.fark.net
 
2017-03-19 08:56:34 AM  

jso2897: Gyrfalcon: dittybopper: vernonFL: Trump is a moron and I hate to defend him, BUT

Only 5 of the 28 NATO member countries spend 2% of their budgets on defense as the treaty stipulates. That is not okay and can't continue.

This.  If every NATO member lived up to their commitments, that would result in a much stronger NATO, which hurts Russia.  We've been subsidizing Europe's defense for 72 years now.  It's time they payed their fare share.

This is Trump playing hardball.  It's not diplomacy, it's "We'll walk away from the deal if we think we are getting screwed".  Diplomacy hasn't worked.  Maybe this will.  And if it doesn't, then the Europeans will only have themselves to blame if shiat falls apart.

The more I see of Trump's policies, the more he looks like the most anti-Russian president since Ronald Reagan.  He's screwing them economically with his energy policies by taking actions guaranteed to keep oil and gas prices low, which hurts Russia which gets most of its money from oil and gas exports.  And it hurts Putin personally because his wealth comes from skimming off oil and gas profits.  That, combined with scaring NATO countries that have been spending just half of what they committed to spending on defense into spending into living up to their commitments on defense spending is going to weaken Russia's ability to project power beyond it's borders.

That, combined with increased US defense spending, isn't going to help Russia.  It makes Russia comparatively weaker, especially since they don't have the money to spend much more on their military.

So all the neo-McCarthyites who see Russian boogeymen hiding under the beds at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue might want to re-evaluate their positions.  But they probably won't.  It's become the narrative, a way to explain a lost election loss that to them is so inexplicable that it must be the result of foreign interference.

Except Russia hasn't been our primary MILITARY opponent in over 30 years. We broke them that way in the 80s ...

I also enjoyed the preposterous absurdity of the argument that Trump is somehow "keeping oil prices low", and that that is "hurting Russian producers". Even if Trump possessed or was exercising the power to do that (he does not) it would be , and IS, hurting American producers a lot worse than the Russians.
Low oil prices mean the Russians make less money - they are shutting American producers down.
U.S. production is only now starting to rebound a little bit, now that OPEC production cuts have nudged prices upward again. None of it has anything to do with anything the Orange Shiatgibbon did or didn't do - he's a helpless, flailing infant, actually.
It's all hogwash, cut 'n pasted from Breitbart or some such hole.


Yeah, I'm not sure where that came from. OPEC sets oil prices, not Trump.
 
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