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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Conservative boycotts over LeFou being gay in Disney's "Beauty and the Beast" prove to be a success as the film is set to bow with a paltry $170M+ opening weekend, one of the top ten of all time   ( hollywoodreporter.com) divider line
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2017-03-18 08:43:29 PM  
I saw it today.  If no one involved with the film had said anything about the character I bet no one would have noticed or even cared.  I was looking for it and barely saw it.

These losers should go back to being outraged at something more important like the color of Starbucks coffee cups at Christmas time.
 
2017-03-18 08:56:17 PM  
And such an absurdly trivial moment: a man dancing with another man in drag. Meh! How heterosexual! What a straight thing to do!

The cowboys in the Old West used to hold annual dances. Some of the cowboys dressed as women, other as men. There was a distinct shortage women, not nearly enough to go around. There would have been fights and killings if real women had attended, even whores.

So? Gay? Straight? Bisexual? All of the above? None of the above?

Nobody loves doing drag more than straight men. I have seen it among fellow students. I have seen it everywhere.

A beauty contest once at a village show:  the contestants were placed behind a curtain with only their legs showing. Legs neatly shaved and wearing high heels. It was my Father, his brothers and some of their cronies. Took a moment to realize what was going on and only when the curtain was raised to reveal the contestants did all members of the audience realize what they were looking at. Oh, how people laughed.

What a silly Fifties thing to do? It it was in the Sixties or very early Seventies at that.

There is no sin in being who you are unless who you are is a nasty, hypocritical, judgemental Pharisee, Scribe or Sadducee. Even psychopaths don't necessarily do very evil things. They obey the laws and customs of their time and place to avoid punishment or judgment. Even pedophiles do not necessarily ever touch a child, let alone harm one. Those who do harm the innocent are evil-doers, but there is no such thing as an evil-be-er. We don't need a word for somebody who is evil simply by existing because there is no such thing in our proper laws or customs.

The title of Trevor Noah's autobiography, Born a Crime is false. He was not born a crime. It was the law that was a crime. You were not born a crime. You were born a victim of a bad law. What you were born was an infant like any other. What we got was a great comedian.
 
2017-03-18 08:57:55 PM  
Huh, two groups of people I hate, conservatives and self righteous pseudo-liberals.

Shocking which character they made gay, too.
 
2017-03-18 09:01:45 PM  

WalkingCarpet: I saw it today.  If no one involved with the film had said anything about the character I bet no one would have noticed or even cared.  I was looking for it and barely saw it.

These losers should go back to being outraged at something more important like the color of Starbucks coffee cups at Christmas time.

Succès de scandale.

Promotional opportunity. Smart promoters exploit public outrage if they are not too choosy.

Advertised scandal always disappoints, like promised sinfulness. Given permission spoils sin.

Beauty and the Beast is a great story, told by several great story tellers, including Charles Perrault, the Father of modern fairytales for the amusement of adults. He saved fairy tales for adults, saved them from nurses and children. I can't blame you for dragging a little adult humour or content into such a story. It was meant to be enjoyed on different levels by adults and children.

I have read Bruno Bettleheim on the Uses of Enchantment. I know that the sex and violence in fairy tales is educational for both adults and children. Wicked stepmothers are meant for the education and enlightement both of wicked stepmothers and their step-children. It is good. It is saved by art and wisdom and truth.

Fairy tales are cruel to be kind.
 
2017-03-18 09:01:56 PM  
I've never seen the cartoon or the new movie, but isn't this the one where that lady farks a buffalo?

Shouldn't that be the boycott? No farking buffalos?
 
2017-03-18 09:02:38 PM  
Just logistics alone. Ow.
 
2017-03-18 09:07:30 PM  
It is not true! It is a lie! And therefore it will tell you things that no one dares to say, that no one dares to know

Like horror stories and science fiction and fantasy and all good or great writing, things in fairy tales and fables are not always what they seem.

The difference between a fairy tale and an urban legend is that an urban legend may never have happened anywhere, but a fairy tale has happened thousands of times, otherwhere. Fairy tales always happen. They are always true. Urban legends escape from stories, jokes or newspaper articles and stalk the Earth like ghosts.

Fairy tales are always true stories. It is the grown-up version, the pious and moral tale, that may never happen. And if you have read as many EC comics as I have, you know that a horror or fantasy story is always a moral tale. It always teaches a moral lesson, although perhaps a false and clichéed one such as the myth that adultery is always punished by death or terror rather than endding in boredom and shallowness.
 
2017-03-18 09:10:02 PM  

Cake Hunter: I've never seen the cartoon or the new movie, but isn't this the one where that lady farks a buffalo?

Shouldn't that be the boycott? No farking buffalos?


Pasiphaë did it*. The story ended badly and violently. As a myth often should.

*To a given degree of the meaning of buffalo. It was actually an old timey bull. Bos, not Bison. Perhaps an Auroch.
 
2017-03-18 10:06:01 PM  

brantgoose: And such an absurdly trivial moment: a man dancing with another man in drag. Meh! How heterosexual! What a straight thing to do!

The cowboys in the Old West used to hold annual dances. Some of the cowboys dressed as women, other as men. There was a distinct shortage women, not nearly enough to go around. There would have been fights and killings if real women had attended, even whores.

So? Gay? Straight? Bisexual? All of the above? None of the above?

Nobody loves doing drag more than straight men. I have seen it among fellow students. I have seen it everywhere.

A beauty contest once at a village show:  the contestants were placed behind a curtain with only their legs showing. Legs neatly shaved and wearing high heels. It was my Father, his brothers and some of their cronies. Took a moment to realize what was going on and only when the curtain was raised to reveal the contestants did all members of the audience realize what they were looking at. Oh, how people laughed.

What a silly Fifties thing to do? It it was in the Sixties or very early Seventies at that.

There is no sin in being who you are unless who you are is a nasty, hypocritical, judgemental Pharisee, Scribe or Sadducee. Even psychopaths don't necessarily do very evil things. They obey the laws and customs of their time and place to avoid punishment or judgment. Even pedophiles do not necessarily ever touch a child, let alone harm one. Those who do harm the innocent are evil-doers, but there is no such thing as an evil-be-er. We don't need a word for somebody who is evil simply by existing because there is no such thing in our proper laws or customs.

The title of Trevor Noah's autobiography, Born a Crime is false. He was not born a crime. It was the law that was a crime. You were not born a crime. You were born a victim of a bad law. What you were born was an infant like any other. What we got was a great comedian.


Thrift stores at Halloween are FULL of straight guys buying women's clothes.
 
2017-03-18 10:54:46 PM  
That's fabulous!
 
2017-03-19 03:55:37 AM  
Conservative boycott?
Be our guest.....
 
2017-03-19 06:26:57 AM  
whew, I can sleep tonight
 
2017-03-19 06:39:13 AM  
i.imgur.com

Partisan boycotts of either side of the political spectrum often fail because most people just can't summon the outrage.
 
2017-03-19 06:39:51 AM  
Next thing you'll tell me Hawaii's tourism industry hasn't collapsed.
 
2017-03-19 07:53:03 AM  
Haven't seen it. I'll wait to next year when they remake it in some other stupid way. This is like the 15th version of this story, right?
 
2017-03-19 08:09:50 AM  
I particularly enjoyed the flashback to the mother's gruesome death of the plague. That's Disney for you, always throwing a parent in a grave.
 
2017-03-19 08:53:35 AM  

brantgoose: And such an absurdly trivial moment: a man dancing with another man in drag. Meh! How heterosexual! What a straight thing to do!

The cowboys in the Old West used to hold annual dances. Some of the cowboys dressed as women, other as men. There was a distinct shortage women, not nearly enough to go around. There would have been fights and killings if real women had attended, even whores.

So? Gay? Straight? Bisexual? All of the above? None of the above?

Nobody loves doing drag more than straight men. I have seen it among fellow students. I have seen it everywhere.

A beauty contest once at a village show:  the contestants were placed behind a curtain with only their legs showing. Legs neatly shaved and wearing high heels. It was my Father, his brothers and some of their cronies. Took a moment to realize what was going on and only when the curtain was raised to reveal the contestants did all members of the audience realize what they were looking at. Oh, how people laughed.

What a silly Fifties thing to do? It it was in the Sixties or very early Seventies at that.

There is no sin in being who you are unless who you are is a nasty, hypocritical, judgemental Pharisee, Scribe or Sadducee. Even psychopaths don't necessarily do very evil things. They obey the laws and customs of their time and place to avoid punishment or judgment. Even pedophiles do not necessarily ever touch a child, let alone harm one. Those who do harm the innocent are evil-doers, but there is no such thing as an evil-be-er. We don't need a word for somebody who is evil simply by existing because there is no such thing in our proper laws or customs.

The title of Trevor Noah's autobiography, Born a Crime is false. He was not born a crime. It was the law that was a crime. You were not born a crime. You were born a victim of a bad law. What you were born was an infant like any other. What we got was a great comedian.


Do you want Brokeback Mountain? Because that's how you get Brokeback mountain.

Besides, we survived Dolores Umbridge getting the stupid farked out of her by the centaurs in Harry Potter; we'll survive LeFou wanting to give Gaston's manly balls a tongue-bath.
 
2017-03-19 09:18:06 AM  

brantgoose: And such an absurdly trivial moment: a man dancing with another man in drag. Meh! How heterosexual! What a straight thing to do!

The cowboys in the Old West used to hold annual dances. Some of the cowboys dressed as women, other as men. There was a distinct shortage women, not nearly enough to go around. There would have been fights and killings if real women had attended, even whores.

So? Gay? Straight? Bisexual? All of the above? None of the above?

Nobody loves doing drag more than straight men. I have seen it among fellow students. I have seen it everywhere.

A beauty contest once at a village show:  the contestants were placed behind a curtain with only their legs showing. Legs neatly shaved and wearing high heels. It was my Father, his brothers and some of their cronies. Took a moment to realize what was going on and only when the curtain was raised to reveal the contestants did all members of the audience realize what they were looking at. Oh, how people laughed.

What a silly Fifties thing to do? It it was in the Sixties or very early Seventies at that.

There is no sin in being who you are unless who you are is a nasty, hypocritical, judgemental Pharisee, Scribe or Sadducee. Even psychopaths don't necessarily do very evil things. They obey the laws and customs of their time and place to avoid punishment or judgment. Even pedophiles do not necessarily ever touch a child, let alone harm one. Those who do harm the innocent are evil-doers, but there is no such thing as an evil-be-er. We don't need a word for somebody who is evil simply by existing because there is no such thing in our proper laws or customs.

The title of Trevor Noah's autobiography, Born a Crime is false. He was not born a crime. It was the law that was a crime. You were not born a crime. You were born a victim of a bad law. What you were born was an infant like any other. What we got was a great comedian.


That was insightful right up to the point where you called Trevor Noah a great comedian.
 
2017-03-19 09:22:06 AM  

brantgoose: WalkingCarpet: I saw it today.  If no one involved with the film had said anything about the character I bet no one would have noticed or even cared.  I was looking for it and barely saw it.

These losers should go back to being outraged at something more important like the color of Starbucks coffee cups at Christmas time.

Succès de scandale. Promotional opportunity. Smart promoters exploit public outrage if they are not too choosy.

Advertised scandal always disappoints, like promised sinfulness. Given permission spoils sin.

Beauty and the Beast is a great story, told by several great story tellers, including Charles Perrault, the Father of modern fairytales for the amusement of adults. He saved fairy tales for adults, saved them from nurses and children. I can't blame you for dragging a little adult humour or content into such a story. It was meant to be enjoyed on different levels by adults and children.

I have read Bruno Bettleheim on the Uses of Enchantment. I know that the sex and violence in fairy tales is educational for both adults and children. Wicked stepmothers are meant for the education and enlightement both of wicked stepmothers and their step-children. It is good. It is saved by art and wisdom and truth.

Fairy tales are cruel to be kind.


I prefer the version in the first Witcher book. Turns out the Beast doesn't want the curse lifted, because becoming a beast gave him certain "endowments" that makes him popular with the ladies.
 
2017-03-19 09:23:49 AM  
A lot of straight guys like to watch their buddies fark. I know I do.
 
2017-03-19 09:25:23 AM  

Infobahn: I particularly enjoyed the flashback to the mother's gruesome death of the plague. That's Disney for you, always throwing a parent in a grave.


Holy shiat this. When she pulled out the rose rattle to show her dad, my reaction was that her mom was holding it and kissing it after they left and it definitely has plague all over it. Then I remembered that plague doesn't work that way, but that is how everyone in 18th century France thought plague worked, which is why the apartment was abandoned for 17+ years.
 
2017-03-19 09:35:24 AM  
Saw it, nice movie, good CGI, even my cynicism about a lot of Disney things was overridden. Even the fact that Dan Stevens is a lot older than Hermione. although if you're going to be the young bride of a formerly cursed prince with animalistic tendencies, Stevens is as good as anybody, I suppose.

Just go and forget about reality for a couple hours.
 
2017-03-19 09:49:11 AM  

Egalitarian: Saw it, nice movie, good CGI, even my cynicism about a lot of Disney things was overridden. Even the fact that Dan Stevens is a lot older than Hermione. although if you're going to be the young bride of a formerly cursed prince with animalistic tendencies, Stevens is as good as anybody, I suppose.

Just go and forget about reality for a couple hours.


"Be My Guest" will be a new go to for people tripping balls and looking for something cool to watch.
 
2017-03-19 09:50:18 AM  
As a gay man myself, had I not known about the "controversy" it would have nominally crossed my mind during a scene or two, which I would've thought was coming more from me reading into it than directorial intent. Until the brief flash of him dancing with a man at the end of course. Still a really solid movie.
 
2017-03-19 10:02:46 AM  
WalkingCarpet: "Be My Guest" will be a new go to for people tripping balls and looking for something cool to watch.

How about "Be Our Guest".

/need coffee
 
2017-03-19 10:08:52 AM  
I suspect theater goers are generally of a liberal bent.

We saw Cabaret in St Louis this past week and when the missus went to the restroom at intermission, she saw a number of folks leaving already. They were biatching about how raunchy it was. So, a spur of the moment boycott if you will.

Cabaret opened 51 years ago and yet there are older peopel who have no idea what's about. You have to really try to remain ignorant of the world to pull that off.
 
2017-03-19 12:23:31 PM  
Is there a conservative boycott? I thought it was like one theater in Alabama.
 
2017-03-19 12:39:24 PM  
Just wait until someone points out to the conservatives that in the new  Beauty and the Beast video,
 Ariana Grande  appears to have what we old queens from back in the day used to call drag lockjaw.
 
2017-03-19 12:41:04 PM  

edmo: I suspect theater goers are generally of a liberal bent.

We saw Cabaret in St Louis this past week and when the missus went to the restroom at intermission, she saw a number of folks leaving already. They were biatching about how raunchy it was. So, a spur of the moment boycott if you will.

Cabaret opened 51 years ago and yet there are older peopel who have no idea what's about. You have to really try to remain ignorant of the world to pull that off.


Seriously? How do you go to a show like Cabaret of all things and not know what you're getting?

I mean, I should know, we have had a handful of people leave our shows because they see "a tribute to the Trans-Siberian Orchestra" and expect an actual orchestra instead of a rock band. But still....
 
2017-03-19 12:44:24 PM  
No Jerry Orbach, no deal!!
 
2017-03-19 12:48:06 PM  

FriarReb98: edmo: I suspect theater goers are generally of a liberal bent.

We saw Cabaret in St Louis this past week and when the missus went to the restroom at intermission, she saw a number of folks leaving already. They were biatching about how raunchy it was. So, a spur of the moment boycott if you will.

Cabaret opened 51 years ago and yet there are older peopel who have no idea what's about. You have to really try to remain ignorant of the world to pull that off.

Seriously? How do you go to a show like Cabaret of all things and not know what you're getting?

I mean, I should know, we have had a handful of people leave our shows because they see "a tribute to the Trans-Siberian Orchestra" and expect an actual orchestra instead of a rock band. But still....


I remember a gym that advertised they had a great free weight room, and some people being mad when they found out it wasn't free.
 
2017-03-19 12:49:47 PM  
Saw it last night with the kids.

It was good, but some of the camerawork seemed a little off to me in the first half of the movie. That and I didn't care for Lumiere's design. Other than that I liked it.
 
2017-03-19 01:03:12 PM  
Subby, obviously the outrage of Good Christian People kept it from having a $150M opening weekend.  Cheerwine, liberados
 
2017-03-19 01:04:37 PM  
LeFou? With a name like that he stood little chance of being straight.
 
2017-03-19 04:45:47 PM  
I have no problem with Lefou being gay.  I do have a problem with him being Gad.
 
2017-03-19 07:17:45 PM  

teto85: I have no problem with Lefou being gay.  I do have a problem with him being Gad.


I think Gad was perfect for the part.
 
2017-03-19 07:43:19 PM  

FriarReb98: Seriously? How do you go to a show like Cabaret of all things and not know what you're getting?

I mean, I should know, we have had a handful of people leave our shows because they see "a tribute to the Trans-Siberian Orchestra" and expect an actual orchestra instead of a rock band. But still....


... you have my interest. Tribute to TSO?
 
2017-03-19 08:03:09 PM  

saintstryfe: ... you have my interest. Tribute to TSO?


Yup. We play all over the Northeast. Full production (albeit a bit scaled down), full show with narration and everything.
 
2017-03-20 01:27:30 AM  

FriarReb98: saintstryfe: ... you have my interest. Tribute to TSO?

Yup. We play all over the Northeast. Full production (albeit a bit scaled down), full show with narration and everything.


Well give with the links man!
 
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