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(The Atlantic)   New York City gets nuked and the reaction of New Yorkers isn't what you think   ( theatlantic.com) divider line
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2017-03-18 08:24:43 PM  
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"We're just three miles from a primary target. A millisecond of brilliant light and we're vaporized. Much more fortunate than the millions who'll wander sightless through the smouldering aftermath. We'll be spared the horror of survival."
 
2017-03-18 08:27:08 PM  
Meanwhile, a lot of rural America will say that NYC got what was coming for reasons.
 
2017-03-18 09:21:07 PM  
Way to go with quelling the culture of fear, Atlantic. You guys, you're mensch...
 
2017-03-18 09:23:22 PM  
Ozymandias will like this.
 
2017-03-18 09:55:44 PM  
Don't post BS.
 
2017-03-18 10:39:47 PM  
No worries, we're covered.

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2017-03-18 11:48:35 PM  
We're finding those kinds of reports from other disasters as well-except after Hurricane Katrina. There, we have reports that people already didn't trust the government, and then with the isolation resulting from the flooding, they were actually shooting at people trying to help.

Maybe the lack of trust had less to do with the "isolation" and more with the cops killing innocent people who were just trying to get out of the flood zone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings
 
2017-03-19 12:19:27 AM  
They would cry and whine about how horrible it was that their city was attacked, especially those who were never in any real danger.
 
2017-03-19 12:20:16 AM  

themindiswatching: Meanwhile, a lot of rural America will say that NYC got what was coming for reasons.


To be fair, a lot of NYCers are saying rural America is going to get what's coming to them as well.
 
2017-03-19 12:27:34 AM  
What about what happens when the wrong New Yorker gets exposed to radiation...

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2017-03-19 12:31:31 AM  
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2017-03-19 12:32:41 AM  

themindiswatching: Meanwhile, a lot of rural America will say that NYC got what was coming for reasons.


Those filthy rural bastards! No wonder nobody likes them.
 
2017-03-19 12:38:15 AM  
We all know how this turns out.   Charlton Heston screams "You maniacs, you blew it up!" and then later vaporizes the planet.

Fin
 
2017-03-19 12:38:22 AM  
If a 10kT bomb goes off in NYC, the only real thing to do is find which way the wind's blowing, and then leave. Radiation is a MF, and sticking around an environment filled with Fallout is not something one does.
 
2017-03-19 12:41:31 AM  
If someone wanted to do incredible harm to America, they only need to sit back and let Presidente Payaso do the work for them.
 
2017-03-19 12:42:23 AM  

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"We're just three miles from a primary target. A millisecond of brilliant light and we're vaporized. Much more fortunate than the millions who'll wander sightless through the smouldering aftermath. We'll be spared the horror of survival."


One and done.
 
2017-03-19 12:44:36 AM  
1) society collapses as all Bento Boxes melt in seconds
 
2017-03-19 12:58:45 AM  
NYC is in the news too much as it is. I can't imagine the months of woe the networks would subject the world to after something like that. Glad to see their reign of terror is ending.

/Back in the 70s, would anyone in NYC have even noticed if a bomb went off?
 
2017-03-19 01:00:28 AM  
I took a course on mass behavior in college (don't remember exactly what the title was, this was 30 years ago), and the basic takeaway was that movie makers really have no idea how people react to disasters or even unusual events.

I remember when Aum Shinrikio (sp?) attacked a subway in Japan with poisonous gas. People stopped to help the injured and dying. In Syria, people run out after air strikes to dig out and treat survivors and bury the dead.

Turns out that most people aren't assholes when confronted with unimaginable tragedy.
 
2017-03-19 01:01:21 AM  
What New Yorkers?
 
2017-03-19 01:03:00 AM  

cepson: I took a course on mass behavior in college (don't remember exactly what the title was, this was 30 years ago), and the basic takeaway was that movie makers really have no idea how people react to disasters or even unusual events.

I remember when Aum Shinrikio (sp?) attacked a subway in Japan with poisonous gas. People stopped to help the injured and dying. In Syria, people run out after air strikes to dig out and treat survivors and bury the dead.

Turns out that most people aren't assholes when confronted with unimaginable tragedy.


Where did you get your info on Syria?
 
2017-03-19 01:04:19 AM  
Just curious, because you seem to know.
 
2017-03-19 01:05:03 AM  
/Back in the 70s, would anyone in NYC have even noticed if a bomb went off?

If you were in the Bronx or Harlem, no.

Here's the West Side Highway in 1975. Younger people today see the pics from NYC's 1970s and think it looks like Fallout 5. Seeing stuff like this was commonplace back then. Also: Note the Camaro. This car back then was essentially new.

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2017-03-19 01:06:37 AM  

JohnnyBravo: cepson: I took a course on mass behavior in college (don't remember exactly what the title was, this was 30 years ago), and the basic takeaway was that movie makers really have no idea how people react to disasters or even unusual events.

I remember when Aum Shinrikio (sp?) attacked a subway in Japan with poisonous gas. People stopped to help the injured and dying. In Syria, people run out after air strikes to dig out and treat survivors and bury the dead.

Turns out that most people aren't assholes when confronted with unimaginable tragedy.

Where did you get your info on Syria?


http://time.com/syria-white-helmets/
 
2017-03-19 01:07:03 AM  

Koldbern: What about what happens when the wrong New Yorker gets exposed to radiation...

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But she's a robot and as we know from Fukashima radiation doesn't make robots bigger it kills them.
 
2017-03-19 01:07:36 AM  
Ahhh.  Time magazine.  I'll read up on it.
 
2017-03-19 01:09:04 AM  
Thanks, just curious.
 
2017-03-19 01:10:15 AM  
well, why bother with the simulation? we have 2 real example in history of how people react.
 
2017-03-19 01:12:53 AM  

Karma Chameleon: themindiswatching: Meanwhile, a lot of rural America will say that NYC got what was coming for reasons.

To be fair, a lot of NYCers are saying rural America is going to get what's coming to them as well.


The part of NYC that's important got smart and decentralized after 2001.  All that's left are secondary banks and "people in media" from Omaha.
 
2017-03-19 01:13:56 AM  

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2017-03-19 01:17:59 AM  

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: well, why bother with the simulation? we have 2 real example in history of how people react.


Because those incidents are over.  They need to examine this to find out how money is to be made and who is to make it from any future such incidents.  Health care is always a winner but perhaps there are some additional industries that can make a buck off people's misery.
 
2017-03-19 01:27:31 AM  
Future buying opportunity.

/buy hot
//sell not
 
2017-03-19 01:28:35 AM  

JohnnyBravo: cepson: I took a course on mass behavior in college (don't remember exactly what the title was, this was 30 years ago), and the basic takeaway was that movie makers really have no idea how people react to disasters or even unusual events.

I remember when Aum Shinrikio (sp?) attacked a subway in Japan with poisonous gas. People stopped to help the injured and dying. In Syria, people run out after air strikes to dig out and treat survivors and bury the dead.

Turns out that most people aren't assholes when confronted with unimaginable tragedy.

Where did you get your info on Syria?


NPR. Google "white hats syria"
 
2017-03-19 01:29:45 AM  

JohnnyBravo: Ahhh.  Time magazine.  I'll read up on it.


Welcome to snark?
 
2017-03-19 01:32:38 AM  
Ok.  Sounds good.  I have no problems with that.  Confirms my thinking too.
 
2017-03-19 01:34:23 AM  

Amphipath: JohnnyBravo: Ahhh.  Time magazine.  I'll read up on it.

Welcome to snark?


Yes sir.  I know.
 
2017-03-19 01:34:37 AM  

feanorn: /Back in the 70s, would anyone in NYC have even noticed if a bomb went off?


They would have commented on the improvements.
 
2017-03-19 01:35:27 AM  

Znuh: /Back in the 70s, would anyone in NYC have even noticed if a bomb went off?

If you were in the Bronx or Harlem, no.

Here's the West Side Highway in 1975. Younger people today see the pics from NYC's 1970s and think it looks like Fallout 5. Seeing stuff like this was commonplace back then. Also: Note the Camaro. This car back then was essentially new.

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For clarity, the West Side Elevated Highway had been closed to all traffic for over a year when this picture was taken, which may actually reinforce your point.
 
2017-03-19 01:36:04 AM  

Archie Goodwin: feanorn: /Back in the 70s, would anyone in NYC have even noticed if a bomb went off?

They would have commented on the improvements.


You would have to conduct a survey of the rats.
 
2017-03-19 01:37:04 AM  

Karma Chameleon: themindiswatching: Meanwhile, a lot of rural America will say that NYC got what was coming for reasons.

To be fair, a lot of NYCers are saying rural America is going to get what's coming to them as well.


Rural America feeds them. They need to keep their smug at bay.
 
2017-03-19 01:45:12 AM  

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Who?
 
2017-03-19 01:50:47 AM  
We've already trained our citizens to have the "if everyone doesn't carry on like life is normal the enemy has won" complex.  We'll get along fine.
 
2017-03-19 01:52:27 AM  
Huh!
 
2017-03-19 01:54:22 AM  

trappedspirit: We've already trained our citizens to have the "if everyone doesn't carry on like life is normal the enemy has won" complex.  We'll get along fine.


Could you be more vague?
 
2017-03-19 01:55:49 AM  
You really have no idea.
 
2017-03-19 01:56:56 AM  

Znuh: If a 10kT bomb goes off in NYC, the only real thing to do is find which way the wind's blowing, and then leave. Radiation is a MF, and sticking around an environment filled with Fallout is not something one does.


Not to mention there won't be anything left standing, eliminating any reason to stay.
 
2017-03-19 01:57:11 AM  
You are just spouting verbal diarrhea you heard from another Mensa member.
 
2017-03-19 02:00:13 AM  

trappedspirit: We've already trained our citizens to have the "if everyone doesn't carry on like life is normal the enemy has won" complex.  We'll get along fine.


And explain this...
 
2017-03-19 02:03:10 AM  
I have no idea...it may possibly the dumbest thing ever uttered here.  You might deserve a trophy.
 
2017-03-19 02:03:40 AM  

themindiswatching: Meanwhile, a lot of rural America will say that NYC got what was coming for reasons.


I strongly disagree.

After 9/11 rural America stuck with New York. I'm sure there were people who whispered that New York got what they deserved, but they were a tiny minority.

New York is the brother that rural Americans love to hate. You might rag on your brother, you might argue with him, you might even come to blows. But if someone else jumps him, you've got his back.
 
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