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(Washington Post)   Okay, so you want a million-dollar wedding with monogrammed napkins, 3500 white roses, and a 7-tier wedding cake. Of course there's a lawsuit involved   ( washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2017-03-18 08:37:28 AM  
Idiots who agree to write a headline for an article don't bother to actually read the article.
 
2017-03-18 09:02:42 AM  
"It is clear to me that we didn't do our homework on Mindy, that her very Hollywood aesthetic was just a really poor match with our objectives and image for this event," Carl says. "And we didn't sense that early enough. That was our mistake."

Question for the Fark lawyer squad: could that statement be used against them in court to effectively derail their case? Does it count as an admission of fault?
 
2017-03-18 09:13:54 AM  
In other news, the rich squabble with each other over money - rich folks hate paying for services, and rich service-providers do their best to milk the rich - and nothing here is relevant to normal life. Film at 11!
 
2017-03-18 09:22:39 AM  
Thank god he has a huge tax break coming when they kick 24 million off the ACA.
 
2017-03-18 09:28:21 AM  
She did the kardashian weddings, guess we should stone her.
 
2017-03-18 09:29:57 AM  
"in her lawsuit filed last month in the U.S. Eastern District of New York, she contends that she worked "feverishly" to plan the wedding and covered more than $267,000 in expenses out of her own pocket - with the Carls' permission, via what she calls a "Vendor Advance Contract."

I see what they are trying to pull.
 
2017-03-18 09:37:44 AM  
Having RTFA I think I hate everyone in it. Or maybe I'm just in a foul mood from spending too much time in the Politics tab. Hard to tell, honestly.
 
2017-03-18 09:40:06 AM  

MiamiChef: Thank god he has a huge tax break coming when they kick 24 million off the ACA.


I'm all for the Trump and GOP hate, but come on.  This is uncalled for.  There's plenty of stupid here to mock, no need to bring that crap here as well.
 
2017-03-18 09:48:58 AM  
If you have enough money that you can spend a million dollars on a wedding, you don't get to claim ignorance.  RTFC next time, or have a lawyer do it for you.
 
2017-03-18 10:03:19 AM  

BMFPitt: If you have enough money that you can spend a million dollars on a wedding, you don't get to claim ignorance.  RTFC next time, or have a lawyer do it for you.


Father of the bride *is* a lawyer.

And an enormous douchebag.

Everyone in the article should be sentenced to living six months in Buffalo on minimum wage.
 
2017-03-18 10:04:08 AM  
*Idiots who agreed to a $1 million dollar wedding are sued when they get into a fight with the wedding planner over the fact that she spent $3 million on it.
 
2017-03-18 10:05:07 AM  

BMFPitt: If you have enough money that you can spend a million dollars on a wedding, you don't get to claim ignorance.  RTFC next time, or have a lawyer do it for you.


I believe the brides father is a lawyer. However as we all know the lawyer who represents themselves has a fool for a client.
 
2017-03-18 10:07:23 AM  

Delta1212: *Idiots who agreed to a $1 million dollar wedding are sued when they get into a fight with the wedding planner over the fact that she spent $3 million on it.


You'd think someone spending that kind of cash that wants low key would avoid a tasteless crass Hollywood type associated with those bastions of good taste the Kardashians.

IMO
 
2017-03-18 10:33:22 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Having RTFA I think I hate everyone in it. Or maybe I'm just in a foul mood from spending too much time in the Politics tab. Hard to tell, honestly.


I haven't even read the article and I know I'll hate everyone involved.
 
2017-03-18 10:38:41 AM  
 At one point, I told Joan I was prepared to write a very big check to the kids as a wedding present, cancel the wedding and sue Mindy. I was done. I was really done."

Yeah, he should have started with that. "here is a million dollar gift to cover your wedding and future".
 
2017-03-18 10:41:42 AM  
FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?
 
2017-03-18 10:43:07 AM  

Gig103: At one point, I told Joan I was prepared to write a very big check to the kids as a wedding present, cancel the wedding and sue Mindy. I was done. I was really done."

Yeah, he should have started with that. "here is a million dollar gift to cover your wedding and future".



He can probably still write a big check for the divorce.
 
2017-03-18 11:06:15 AM  

thornhill: FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?


Embroidered, monogrammed and studded with swarovski crystals.
 
2017-03-18 11:17:58 AM  
"I think that's a really sordid part of life that, if you have the good fortune of having some affluence, you have to live with."  
 
Affluenza strikes again.. Someone get this woman a cash injection STAT!

Good thing we're building that Border Wall, we're going to need something that long to line all these asshats up against when the revolutions comes.
 
2017-03-18 11:18:08 AM  

thornhill: FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?


"Pouch" is a Hampton slang term for a young woman who has not yet had sexual intercourse.  You know.  A Virgin.  There are very few of them known to exist, hence the price.  Econ 101.
 
2017-03-18 11:22:45 AM  
"The brownie station was poorly lit and sparsely attended."

How embarrassing!
 
2017-03-18 11:43:30 AM  
You don't expect the Trumps to pay their bills, why should this be any different?
 
2017-03-18 11:49:45 AM  

Bslim: "in her lawsuit filed last month in the U.S. Eastern District of New York, she contends that she worked "feverishly" to plan the wedding and covered more than $267,000 in expenses out of her own pocket - with the Carls' permission, via what she calls a "Vendor Advance Contract."

I see what they are trying to pull.


Better yet, if you keep reading, you will find out she didn't get that in writing, and the reporter implies that Weiss kind of assumed it.

I am surprised she is still fighting it. Guess her payments to her lawyer aren't bouncing....
 
2017-03-18 11:51:31 AM  

Delta1212: *Idiots who agreed to a $1 million dollar wedding  never stated a budget or agreed on a price  until 6 weeks before the ceremony, after having the contractor work for 10 monthsare sued when they get into a fight with the wedding planner over the fact that she spent $3 million on it.


I think this captures it better.
 
2017-03-18 12:10:35 PM  
So, they didn't have a written estimate or a contract prior to anything happening and didn't discuss a budget.  The planner says the "Advanced Vendor Contract" was verbal or implied - aka nothing in writing.  Both parties in this fight are stupid beyond belief.
 
2017-03-18 12:21:21 PM  
"Washington A-listers"

Stopped reading there.jpg
 
2017-03-18 12:22:16 PM  
Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.
 
2017-03-18 12:46:31 PM  
No sympathy from me.  No farks to give.
 
2017-03-18 01:08:22 PM  
"The bride and groom's dogs, which were in the wedding procession, were left out of the wedding photos."

You go to hell. Each and every one of you. Straight. To Hell.

EABOD and DIAF.
 
2017-03-18 01:12:45 PM  

Tempted: thornhill: FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?

"Pouch" is a Hampton slang term for a young woman who has not yet had sexual intercourse.  You know.  A Virgin.  There are very few of them known to exist, hence the price.  Econ 101.


I thought it ment foreskin?
 
2017-03-18 01:17:58 PM  
This wedding needs more violins.

img.fark.net
 
2017-03-18 01:54:29 PM  
This can't be that difficult to figure out. When spending a million dollars either you have a signed contract or not. You don't go spending that kind of money as an event planner without something to fall back on.
 
2017-03-18 02:01:36 PM  
I'm not sure why they're being called idiots. If you have all the money you otherwise need and can afford to blow a million or two, why not? Think about it like this - if you have $20 million, spending a million on a wedding is like someone with $100k spending $5,000. Or someone with $20k spending a grand. Neither of those scenarios would be considered extravagant or stupid. Why the different take here? Remember, money only existed in it's context.
 
2017-03-18 02:03:34 PM  

thornhill: FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?


$1000 for Tylenol is a steal.  Go to a hospital without insurance and see what they charge.
 
2017-03-18 02:39:06 PM  
For all you ladies who had smaller weddings: nobody loves you and your marriage doesn't count.
 
2017-03-18 02:42:09 PM  

whither_apophis: thornhill: FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?

$1000 for Tylenol is a steal.  Go to a hospital without insurance and see what they charge.


'Hangover Tylenol' is wealthy person code for RU-486. Get with it, poors.
 
2017-03-18 03:08:06 PM  
The lawyer father should be disbarred for not getting a statement of work up front.
 
2017-03-18 03:34:52 PM  

Lusiphur: I'm not sure why they're being called idiots. If you have all the money you otherwise need and can afford to blow a million or two, why not? Think about it like this - if you have $20 million, spending a million on a wedding is like someone with $100k spending $5,000. Or someone with $20k spending a grand. Neither of those scenarios would be considered extravagant or stupid. Why the different take here? Remember, money only existed in it's context.


spending 5k or 1k on a wedding is stupid too.
 
2017-03-18 03:36:38 PM  

SpaceyCat: So, they didn't have a written estimate or a contract prior to anything happening and didn't discuss a budget.  The planner says the "Advanced Vendor Contract" was verbal or implied - aka nothing in writing.  Both parties in this fight are stupid beyond belief.


Oral contracts are enforceable, it's just harder to prove that one existed. Also, pet peeve, please don't use "verbal" when you mean "oral" - they don't mean the same.
 
2017-03-18 03:40:36 PM  

ukexpat: SpaceyCat: So, they didn't have a written estimate or a contract prior to anything happening and didn't discuss a budget.  The planner says the "Advanced Vendor Contract" was verbal or implied - aka nothing in writing.  Both parties in this fight are stupid beyond belief.

Oral contracts are enforceable, it's just harder to prove that one existed. Also, pet peeve, please don't use "verbal" when you mean "oral" - they don't mean the same.


Phfft... tell me about it.
 
2017-03-18 03:56:58 PM  
Wait, you can have midnight donuts at your wedding?
 
2017-03-18 04:05:20 PM  

thornhill: FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?


If they ordered enough for all 250 guests instead of just the wedding party, it comes out to $4 each. A stupid expense, yes, but not like $80 for a dinky little bag with some store-brand pills.
 
2017-03-18 04:07:24 PM  
I'm going to go out on a limb, but based on the wedding description and those parents I'm willing to bet someone is soon going to realize he's miserable and his bride has unrealistic expectations.
 
2017-03-18 04:07:47 PM  

Driedsponge: MiamiChef: Thank god he has a huge tax break coming when they kick 24 million off the ACA.

I'm all for the Trump and GOP hate, but come on.  This is uncalled for.  There's plenty of stupid here to mock, no need to bring that crap here as well.


Aw, did that offend you? Are you personal friends with these assholes? Are you related to them?
 
2017-03-18 05:08:44 PM  

tennesseemike: Lusiphur: I'm not sure why they're being called idiots. If you have all the money you otherwise need and can afford to blow a million or two, why not? Think about it like this - if you have $20 million, spending a million on a wedding is like someone with $100k spending $5,000. Or someone with $20k spending a grand. Neither of those scenarios would be considered extravagant or stupid. Why the different take here? Remember, money only existed in it's context.

spending 5k or 1k on a wedding is stupid too.


You can spend 5k on a well provisioned party for 30 people, no matter what you call it. Perhaps you should stop being so 'edgy' and more realistically comment on 5 figure weddings?

I spent 2k on my wedding, and the only thing that we had 'custom' was a string quartet. Even the venue was just at my grandmother's farm.
 
2017-03-18 05:12:59 PM  

tennesseemike: Lusiphur: I'm not sure why they're being called idiots. If you have all the money you otherwise need and can afford to blow a million or two, why not? Think about it like this - if you have $20 million, spending a million on a wedding is like someone with $100k spending $5,000. Or someone with $20k spending a grand. Neither of those scenarios would be considered extravagant or stupid. Why the different take here? Remember, money only existed in it's context.

spending 5k or 1k on a wedding is stupid too.


I just spent about 15k on mine.  And it was a good investment.  Disposable income.  We made sure we bought a house before the wedding so that we wouldn't burn cash we absolutely needed.  My first wedding, the dress was the most expensive item($600).  And that was a great wedding too.  In the end, both weddings were based off what me and my fiancee at the time could afford using disposable income.  No family help either time.

Now, for my kids, when they get married, if I have money to offer I will, but there is a stipulation attached to it that they could use that money on a house of their own rather than on a wedding.  They don't get both.  We're not rich.  Then again, if I was rich, I'd probably say the same thing.  A kid's gotta learn some financial discipline.

psychosis_inducing: If they ordered enough for all 250 guests instead of just the wedding party, it comes out to $4 each. A stupid expense, yes, but not like $80 for a dinky little bag with some store-brand pills.


A 50 pack of single serving Advil(2 per serving pouch) is $10.  We provided that and single serving Pepto, sanitizer wipes, tissue, etc to our guests in a little bag.  We spent less than $100 on gift bags for 75 people with a bunch of little things like that. $4 each for the Tylenol itself is steep for 250 people.  Unless, if course, you're paying someone to make the bags for you, which I'm sure these people did.
 
2017-03-18 05:16:50 PM  
"I think there are people who prey on people's love for their children, they prey on their vanity, they try to take advantage of it," Bernard Carl says. "I think that's a really sordid part of life that, if you have the good fortune of having some affluence, you have to live with. But it doesn't make it pleasant."
...
"It is clear to me that we didn't do our homework on Mindy, that her very Hollywood aesthetic was just a really poor match with our objectives and image for this event," Carl says. "And we didn't sense that early enough. That was our mistake."



I don't know what exactly was agreed upon and what exactly is enforceable, but the dad isn't doing himself any favors with these statements.  They make it sound like his own judgment was cloudy due to factors not the planner's fault.  He should stick to "we agreed to X for $A (which is documented), she implemented X + Y which cost $A + $B."
 
2017-03-18 05:26:45 PM  

Smoked: Driedsponge: MiamiChef: Thank god he has a huge tax break coming when they kick 24 million off the ACA.

I'm all for the Trump and GOP hate, but come on.  This is uncalled for.  There's plenty of stupid here to mock, no need to bring that crap here as well.

Aw, did that offend you? Are you personal friends with these assholes? Are you related to them?


Aw, Smoked... do you get paid by the sh:tty word? Did your Mommy tell you you're too special? She sure said that sh:t to me...
 
2017-03-18 06:04:21 PM  

thornhill: FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?


250 people so 4 bucks each.
 
2017-03-18 06:57:31 PM  

thornhill: FTFA:

The expenses Weiss says she paid for upfront include more than $45,000 for her staff to work the wedding, $48,000 in travel expenses, $38,000 for lighting, $10,000 for the videographer, and more. All those little wedding favors add up, too: $4,300 for totes, $5,000 for T-shirts, $1,000 for hangover Tylenol pouches.

Cute idea, but were these pouches made out of satin?


Probably. For 250 guests, that would mean they're about $4 each. I'm guessing they had Tylenol, some herbal shiat, a few other OTC meds...$4 sounds reasonable for putting it all together in a high-end pouch.
 
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