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2017-03-17 01:52:10 PM  
I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.
 
2017-03-17 02:34:30 PM  
So... same as Wendy's?
 
2017-03-17 02:37:22 PM  

Candygram4Mongo: So... same as Wendy's?


Or Five Guys.
 
2017-03-17 03:31:25 PM  
img.fark.net

Vat de faack?
 
2017-03-17 03:57:43 PM  
Mmmm. This is a tasty burger!
 
2017-03-17 03:58:43 PM  

EvilEgg: Candygram4Mongo: So... same as Wendy's?

Or Five Guys.


img.fark.net
Or In-N-Out.
 
2017-03-17 04:09:45 PM  
I used to work in an office on an industrial estate in the U.K. (not in Slough, but similar). Next door was a commercial bakery - all they did was bake buns for McDonalds. They may look and taste like shiate but the sure smelled good while baking.
 
2017-03-17 04:12:54 PM  

siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.


So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.
 
2017-03-17 04:17:37 PM  

Cheron: siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.

So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.


I was in Nice for nearly a month, and ate at McDonald's exactly once, not for every meal. Part of the decision may have been motivated by homesickness, but the bigger part was due to the fact the Pulp Fiction had come out less than a year before, and I wanted to do the Royale with cheese thing. But the burger was definitely much higher quality than what we get stateside.
 
2017-03-17 04:28:36 PM  
I've been wanting to get that Mac Jr. simply because the worst part of the Big Mac is that stupid middle bun.  I can't think of any sandwich I've ever eaten that made me think "What this baby needs is more bread!""
 
2017-03-17 04:39:49 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I've been wanting to get that Mac Jr. simply because the worst part of the Big Mac is that stupid middle bun.  I can't think of any sandwich I've ever eaten that made me think "What this baby needs is more bread!""


Think of it as a support structure.  "I love how this load-bearing wall accentuates the natural lighting in the kitchen!"
 
2017-03-17 04:47:01 PM  

Cheron: siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.

So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.


The Burger King is far superior in Nice.
 
2017-03-17 04:49:26 PM  
The burger joint market is so crowded, I don't think there is anything they can do to meaningfully increase their market share.  In fact, I think it is going to be chipped away at as their bulwark is breakfast, and as more and more places are offering breakfast, McDonalds is going to lose customers as their food doesn't taste particularly great.  Burger King breakfast easliy beats McDs in the taste department.
 
2017-03-17 04:53:34 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Mmmm. This is a tasty burger!


Check out the big brain on Sin_City_Superhero....
 
2017-03-17 04:53:59 PM  
I read this via Fark last year; 6-12 months ago. So still a maybe?
 
2017-03-17 05:19:35 PM  

siyuntz: Cheron: siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.

So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.

I was in Nice for nearly a month, and ate at McDonald's exactly once, not for every meal. Part of the decision may have been motivated by homesickness, but the bigger part was due to the fact the Pulp Fiction had come out less than a year before, and I wanted to do the Royale with cheese thing. But the burger was definitely much higher quality than what we get stateside.


Did you ever have the pizza des quatre saisons at Restaurant du Gesu? Om nom nom...
 
2017-03-17 05:27:06 PM  
This, like with everyone who touts the "never frozen beef" thing, is missing the point. Almost all of the ground beef I eat (and most of the roasts and steaks) have been frozen. And all of it is far superior to any fast food joint beef, frozen or not. I raise my own cattle, and when keeping a half of a steer to eat throughout the year, you kinda don't have a choice but to freeze it. But the beef that goes in to the freezer is from a usda choice, pasture raised, balanced diet fed, humanely treated purebred angus steer. The burger is custom ground 90/10, after a 10 day whole carcass dry age. Now obviously that's an extreme cases, but still, meat freezes quite well. You want to sell better burgers, stop buying prison-quality beef to make them with.
 
2017-03-17 05:35:31 PM  

siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.


So you're saying the hamburger was...pleasant.
 
2017-03-17 05:46:04 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I've been wanting to get that Mac Jr. simply because the worst part of the Big Mac is that stupid middle bun.  I can't think of any sandwich I've ever eaten that made me think "What this baby needs is more bread!""


Protip: Order a McDouble without ketchup and mustard, add lettuce and mac sauce.
 
2017-03-17 07:00:18 PM  

Cheron: siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.

So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.


I will eat at McDonalds most places I go. Just to see what it is like.

If you are somewhere for several weeks having a nice familiar, comforting food is handy.

When I was in India I at KFC regularly for that reason (I would have went to McDonalds more but I wasn't brace enough to cross the road on my own). It was the one thing that tasted quite similar to Canada.
 
2017-03-17 07:05:25 PM  
They're putting kale on the Big Mac?
 
2017-03-17 08:11:51 PM  

Big 900: This, like with everyone who touts the "never frozen beef" thing, is missing the point. Almost all of the ground beef I eat (and most of the roasts and steaks) have been frozen. And all of it is far superior to any fast food joint beef, frozen or not. I raise my own cattle, and when keeping a half of a steer to eat throughout the year, you kinda don't have a choice but to freeze it. But the beef that goes in to the freezer is from a usda choice, pasture raised, balanced diet fed, humanely treated purebred angus steer. The burger is custom ground 90/10, after a 10 day whole carcass dry age. Now obviously that's an extreme cases, but still, meat freezes quite well. You want to sell better burgers, stop buying prison-quality beef to make them with.


100% this. Cheap, crappy fresh beef is still cheap, crappy beef.

While frozen good, high quality beef is good, high quality beef.

Sure you loose a bit of quality freezing it, but not as much as the various production and processing methods use by a chain like McDonalds.
 
2017-03-17 08:27:52 PM  
Vee vill haf to deal vis it.
 
2017-03-17 08:31:50 PM  

Big 900: This, like with everyone who touts the "never frozen beef" thing, is missing the point. Almost all of the ground beef I eat (and most of the roasts and steaks) have been frozen. And all of it is far superior to any fast food joint beef, frozen or not. I raise my own cattle, and when keeping a half of a steer to eat throughout the year, you kinda don't have a choice but to freeze it. But the beef that goes in to the freezer is from a usda choice, pasture raised, balanced diet fed, humanely treated purebred angus steer. The burger is custom ground 90/10, after a 10 day whole carcass dry age. Now obviously that's an extreme case, but still, meat freezes quite well. You want to sell better burgers, stop buying prison-quality beef to make them with.


I read that in his voice:

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2017-03-17 08:36:27 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: The burger joint market is so crowded, I don't think there is anything they can do to meaningfully increase their market share.  In fact, I think it is going to be chipped away at as their bulwark is breakfast, and as more and more places are offering breakfast, McDonalds is going to lose customers as their food doesn't taste particularly great.  Burger King breakfast easliy beats McDs in the taste department.


On that note, I gotta say that BK's croissant-wiches slide into me nearly as easily as they slide out a few hours later.
 
2017-03-17 09:07:58 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: [img.fark.net image 850x504]

Vat de faack?


Came here to post this.

/pre-made burgers sealed in plastic?
//is that really a thing in Finland?
 
2017-03-17 10:50:18 PM  

dywed88: Cheron: siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.

So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.

I will eat at McDonalds most places I go. Just to see what it is like.

If you are somewhere for several weeks having a nice familiar, comforting food is handy.

When I was in India I at KFC regularly for that reason (I would have went to McDonalds more but I wasn't brace enough to cross the road on my own). It was the one thing that tasted quite similar to Canada.


There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who want to eat the same things they eat at home no matter where they are, and those who appreciate the fact that you can get different kinds of food in different parts of the world and are curious enough to try them.

I will say that I absolutely do not understand or relate to the first type.
 
2017-03-17 11:15:20 PM  

pdieten: dywed88: Cheron: siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.

So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.

I will eat at McDonalds most places I go. Just to see what it is like.

If you are somewhere for several weeks having a nice familiar, comforting food is handy.

When I was in India I at KFC regularly for that reason (I would have went to McDonalds more but I wasn't brace enough to cross the road on my own). It was the one thing that tasted quite similar to Canada.

There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who want to eat the same things they eat at home no matter where they are, and those who appreciate the fact that you can get different kinds of food in different parts of the world and are curious enough to try them.

I will say that I absolutely do not understand or relate to the first type.


I go away for three weeks or a month. That is roughly 60-90 meals. A few of them will be things similar to home. Sometimes for comfort. Sometimes to find out what the local variation is. There is tones of time to try all kinds of local things.

If I am somewhere for two days, then it is a different story.
 
2017-03-17 11:54:45 PM  
Last time I had a McDonalds burger, one of the value menu ones, the meat had no texture.  It didn't disintegrate into meat particles in my mouth, it dissolved into a vaguely meat flavored paste.  All I could think of was that it was formed out of pink slime.

So yeah, it is about the quality of the beef, not about whether or not it has ever been frozen.
 
2017-03-18 12:38:04 AM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Last time I had a McDonalds burger, one of the value menu ones, the meat had no texture.  It didn't disintegrate into meat particles in my mouth, it dissolved into a vaguely meat flavored paste.  All I could think of was that it was formed out of pink slime.

So yeah, it is about the quality of the beef, not about whether or not it has ever been frozen.


Yup, again McDonald's tries a new gimmick to avoid actually improving the quality of its food. Maybe these 'fresh' patties are different, but I'm not betting on it.
 
2017-03-18 04:00:19 AM  

pdieten: dywed88: Cheron: siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.

So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.

I will eat at McDonalds most places I go. Just to see what it is like.

If you are somewhere for several weeks having a nice familiar, comforting food is handy.

When I was in India I at KFC regularly for that reason (I would have went to McDonalds more but I wasn't brace enough to cross the road on my own). It was the one thing that tasted quite similar to Canada.

There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who want to eat the same things they eat at home no matter where they are, and those who appreciate the fact that you can get different kinds of food in different parts of the world and are curious enough to try them.

I will say that I absolutely do not understand or relate to the first type.


I can't stand unfamiliar tastes or textures. If it's a more complex taste than, say, Steak N Shake, I'll try a bite and then go hungry until I get something familiar.

Even something like peanut sauce just tastes wrong to me. Or most of what goes on bagels these days-- anything more than plain cream cheese seems to trigger a gag reflex based on just the taste combinations.

It seems to be just a part of how I am wired. Since I hit puberty everything just became too much flavor wise. Pickles, onions, buffalo sauce, most sauces, most spices, foods with more than 4-5 ingredients all pretty much are turnoffs for me. It's all overpowering and often physically painful like my tongue is being stabbed with little needles due to something in a sauce.
 
2017-03-18 07:00:03 AM  

BolloxReader: pdieten: dywed88: Cheron: siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.

So you were in Nice and given all the options you went with McD.

I will eat at McDonalds most places I go. Just to see what it is like.

If you are somewhere for several weeks having a nice familiar, comforting food is handy.

When I was in India I at KFC regularly for that reason (I would have went to McDonalds more but I wasn't brace enough to cross the road on my own). It was the one thing that tasted quite similar to Canada.

There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who want to eat the same things they eat at home no matter where they are, and those who appreciate the fact that you can get different kinds of food in different parts of the world and are curious enough to try them.

I will say that I absolutely do not understand or relate to the first type.

I can't stand unfamiliar tastes or textures. If it's a more complex taste than, say, Steak N Shake, I'll try a bite and then go hungry until I get something familiar.

Even something like peanut sauce just tastes wrong to me. Or most of what goes on bagels these days-- anything more than plain cream cheese seems to trigger a gag reflex based on just the taste combinations.

It seems to be just a part of how I am wired. Since I hit puberty everything just became too much flavor wise. Pickles, onions, buffalo sauce, most sauces, most spices, foods with more than 4-5 ingredients all pretty much are turnoffs for me. It's all overpowering and often physically painful like my tongue is being stabbed with little needles due to something in a sauce.


This isn't that unusual. People with Aspergers Syndrome experience this a lot. They tend to subsist on things like breakfast cereal.

It is an issue when senses become overwhelmed. Bright sunlight, loud noises, intense aromas, strong flavors, uncomfortable tactile sensations. Things like that.
 
2017-03-18 02:54:33 PM  
Amazing Keto meal is a double quarter no bun or ketchup, add round McMuffin egg and two strips bacon. Have it served on a big breakfast platter. It is really good.
 
2017-03-18 03:04:45 PM  
Forget the beef, drop the pre-cooked sausage crap for real sausage and i'll eat mcmuffins all day ling
 
2017-03-18 11:04:07 PM  

siyuntz: I had a Royale with cheese (of course) at a McDonald's in Nice, France, many years ago, and damn if it wasn't a terrific burger, with a nice juicy patty, fresh toppings, toasted bun, etc. Not the sad, grey burgers we get here in the States. It really rather pissed me off when I thought about how they had been foisting these shiatty burgers off on dumb Americans for so many years.


I bet the bun on the French burger is denser & tastier* than what passes for bread at McDonald's here in the U.S...

/ * more like a baguette, I'm guessing.
 
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