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(Herald Tribune (SW Florida))   Stephen King on new Dark Tower movie: "Terrific." Stephen King on new IT movie: "Terrific." Stephen King on new Gerald's Game movie: "Terrific." Stephen King on new 1922 movie: "Terrific." Stephen King on no work and no play makes Jack a dull boy   ( heraldtribune.com) divider line
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2017-03-17 12:06:55 PM  
Stephen King on what is generally considered to be the best film adaptation of any of works, Kubrick's "The Shining":  "I think 'The Shining' is a beautiful film and it looks terrific and as I've said before, it's like a big, beautiful Cadillac with no engine inside it. In that sense, when it opened, a lot of the reviews weren't very favorable and I was one of those reviewers. I kept my mouth shut at the time, but I didn't care for it much."
 
2017-03-17 12:20:23 PM  

jake_lex: Stephen King on what is generally considered to be the best film adaptation of any of works, Kubrick's "The Shining": "I think 'The Shining' is a beautiful film and it looks terrific and as I've said before, it's like a big, beautiful Cadillac with no engine inside it. In that sense, when it opened, a lot of the reviews weren't very favorable and I was one of those reviewers. I kept my mouth shut at the time, but I didn't care for it much."


Great film, not a great adaptation.  It's not alone in that category.

And Kubrick, in general, is overrated.
 
2017-03-17 12:26:42 PM  
Gerald's Game?! Tell me they got Salma Hayek...
 
2017-03-17 12:28:00 PM  

bhcompy: jake_lex: Stephen King on what is generally considered to be the best film adaptation of any of works, Kubrick's "The Shining": "I think 'The Shining' is a beautiful film and it looks terrific and as I've said before, it's like a big, beautiful Cadillac with no engine inside it. In that sense, when it opened, a lot of the reviews weren't very favorable and I was one of those reviewers. I kept my mouth shut at the time, but I didn't care for it much."

Great film, not a great adaptation.  It's not alone in that category.

And Kubrick, in general, is overrated.


Yeah, it's a wonderful movie... but it is absolutely awful as an adaptation.
 
2017-03-17 12:31:51 PM  

Streetwise Hercules: Gerald's Game?! Tell me they got Salma Hayek...

Carla Gugino.
 
2017-03-17 12:41:36 PM  
I was excited for the Cell movie, until they turned the meek, white, gay man into a battle hardened Samuel L Jackson.
 
2017-03-17 12:42:21 PM  
Stephen King's IT?

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2017-03-17 12:42:47 PM  
ter·rif·ic
təˈrifik/
adjective
1.
of great size, amount, or intensity.

2.
archaic
causing terror.
 
2017-03-17 12:49:03 PM  
IT may end up being a great adaptation, but their design for Pennywise sucks.  Too much "scary clown", and not enough "normal clown that's just a bit...off".
 
2017-03-17 12:52:47 PM  
The Langoliers was terrific.
 
2017-03-17 12:53:19 PM  

jake_lex: Stephen King on what is generally considered to be the best film adaptation of any of works, Kubrick's "The Shining":  "I think 'The Shining' is a beautiful film and it looks terrific and as I've said before, it's like a big, beautiful Cadillac with no engine inside it. In that sense, when it opened, a lot of the reviews weren't very favorable and I was one of those reviewers. I kept my mouth shut at the time, but I didn't care for it much."



King's own TV adaptation of The Shining was a talky mess filled with clumsy exposition because he doesn't understand visual storytelling.

And the CGI on the topiary maze was...unfortunate. A good director would never had left that in but because it was in the book, it had to be in the miniseries.
 
2017-03-17 12:54:30 PM  
Stephen King is one of the few writers who can introduce a character, and kill off that character in short order and have you feel for them.

He is great at conveying emotions and feelings (which work wonders in the genre he writes in), BUT, the man SUCKS at endings. I have read most of his books and the best are the short stories - novel length and he seems to get bored and just "wraps it up". I expect to see a shout out to Dave Chappelle's skit.
 
2017-03-17 12:59:17 PM  
Stephen King is terrific. He begets terror.
 
2017-03-17 01:08:19 PM  
I played deadly towers.  It was horrible.

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2017-03-17 01:12:45 PM  

FuLinHyu: Stephen King is one of the few writers who can introduce a character, and kill off that character in short order and have you feel for them.

He is great at conveying emotions and feelings (which work wonders in the genre he writes in), BUT, the man SUCKS at endings. I have read most of his books and the best are the short stories - novel length and he seems to get bored and just "wraps it up". I expect to see a shout out to Dave Chappelle's skit.


I remember when I was quite young and reading "It."  It completely baffled me why King chose to spend as much time as he did talking about (adult) Stan Uris' familial life and their experiences with anti-Semitism when he knew perfectly damn well that dude was going to end the chapter dead in a bathtub.  I have a better appreciation for it now, as in the back of the reader's mind they know that young Stanley is going to grow up and commit suicide rather than return, but on a first reading it really seems to come out of nowhere.
 
2017-03-17 01:16:33 PM  
"I can't browse as freely as I used to because people come up and say, 'Are you him?'"

I'm not one of those people who get star struck, I've seen a few celebs and had no urge to bother them, but I'd have to go up to SK if I saw him and thank him for his amazing body of work and countless hours of quality entertainment both on and off screen.
 
2017-03-17 01:17:42 PM  

CarbonCarby: Streetwise Hercules: Gerald's Game?! Tell me they got Salma Hayek...
Carla Gugino.


I find that preferable.
 
2017-03-17 01:20:43 PM  
He can shove that "white America" racist nonsense right up his ass. He needs to stick to writing and stay out of politics.  How do morons elect a guy from Maine to represent them in Iowa?
 
2017-03-17 01:35:55 PM  

bhcompy: And Kubrick, in general, is overrated.


okay
 
2017-03-17 01:40:23 PM  
No beer and no TV make Homer...something, something.
 
2017-03-17 01:50:12 PM  

Bondith: No beer and no TV make Homer...something, something.


Go crazy?
 
2017-03-17 01:53:56 PM  

The Department of Inadvisably Applied Magic: Bondith: No beer and no TV make Homer...something, something.

Go crazy?


Don't mind if I do!
 
2017-03-17 01:54:06 PM  

LesserEvil: He can shove that "white America" racist nonsense right up his ass. He needs to stick to writing and stay out of politics.  How do morons elect a guy from Maine to represent them in Iowa?


And have you seen how he writes black characters?  It's awful.  He can't write about other people's babies.
 
2017-03-17 02:08:38 PM  
Some movies are faithful adaptation of the book, but not very good. Others are good movies, but not good adaptations. And others are just bad altogether. "Stand By Me" was one that was both good and a faithful adaptation. Is that the only one?

One problem with adapting horror stories is that the scary stuff is created in your brain. The way the author creates those feelings in your head with words needs to be done differently by the director with images on the screen. The director that tries to be faithful creates clunky images that aren't scary, while the directory that tries to match the scary aspect needs to change the storytelling method.

Also, King is great with making a mundane story about something like buying shoelaces somehow be interesting. The rich backstory and interesting environment is part of the enjoyment of the book. That kind of stuff rarely translates well to the screen.
 
2017-03-17 02:18:09 PM  

Mangoose: The Department of Inadvisably Applied Magic: Bondith: No beer and no TV make Homer...something, something.

Go crazy?

Don't mind if I do!


This is why I keep coming back to Fark (bonus points for the Discworld reference in one of the handles).
 
2017-03-17 02:19:33 PM  

Streetwise Hercules: Gerald's Game?! Tell me they got Salma Hayek...


I can play Joubert
 
2017-03-17 02:57:21 PM  

CarbonCarby: Streetwise Hercules: Gerald's Game?! Tell me they got Salma Hayek...
Carla Gugino.


I'm a fan. She's still got her fastball.
 
2017-03-17 03:11:06 PM  

bhcompy: jake_lex: 

And Kubrick, in general, is overrated.


Gotta disagree with that. Not that I'm a Kubrick fan, but pretty much everyone says he's overrated now. Which means he's not really overrated.
 
2017-03-17 03:20:16 PM  

warrenn: Some movies are faithful adaptation of the book, but not very good. Others are good movies, but not good adaptations. And others are just bad altogether. "Stand By Me" was one that was both good and a faithful adaptation. Is that the only one?


The Green Mile was a good book and faithful adaptation. Shawshank Redemption was a good book and adaptation. The Mist was a good book and the movie adaptation was faithful right up until Frank Darabont made the ending even better. Misery? Great book, pretty faithful adaptation.

Christine was a pretty faithful adaptation, but the book was kinda meh.
 
2017-03-17 03:28:46 PM  

Lsherm: warrenn: Some movies are faithful adaptation of the book, but not very good. Others are good movies, but not good adaptations. And others are just bad altogether. "Stand By Me" was one that was both good and a faithful adaptation. Is that the only one?

The Green Mile was a good book and faithful adaptation. Shawshank Redemption was a good book and adaptation. The Mist was a good book and the movie adaptation was faithful right up until Frank Darabont made the ending even better. Misery? Great book, pretty faithful adaptation.

Christine was a pretty faithful adaptation, but the book was kinda meh.


Shawshank was a short story, but it was a pretty decent adaptation given what they had to work with. Same goes for Stand By Me and King's short story "The Body". I still haven't gotten around to watching Green Mile, which is a shame because I heard it was a decent movie and adaptation of the book.

I'm still pretty apprehensive about the Dark Tower flick. It may end up being a decent movie, but I'm still disappointed that it doesn't appear to have Eddie and Susannah, yet keeps Jake.
 
2017-03-17 03:31:02 PM  

warrenn: Some movies are faithful adaptation of the book, but not very good. Others are good movies, but not good adaptations. And others are just bad altogether. "Stand By Me" was one that was both good and a faithful adaptation. Is that the only one?

One problem with adapting horror stories is that the scary stuff is created in your brain. The way the author creates those feelings in your head with words needs to be done differently by the director with images on the screen. The director that tries to be faithful creates clunky images that aren't scary, while the directory that tries to match the scary aspect needs to change the storytelling method.

Also, King is great with making a mundane story about something like buying shoelaces somehow be interesting. The rich backstory and interesting environment is part of the enjoyment of the book. That kind of stuff rarely translates well to the screen.


I've really been making an effort in recent years to not be disappointed by a visual adaptation of a book or comic just because it deviates from the source material in tone or plot. I try and take the Douglass Adams view, where each different medium is it's own telling of a story.

The adaptation still has to be GOOD for me to like it, I just try to consciously ignore fixating on the changes themselves when I'm watching it. It is an attitude which helps me to easier enjoy those stories in their new formats.

For instance, I loved the Expanse books, and I'm loving the TV series. A friend of mine isn't so satisfied with it because of changes and because it's not quite what he imagined when he read it. I am just enjoying it for what it is, and even if there are a few changes they got the gist right for absolutely sure.

Of course on the other end of the spectrum, the LOTR movies. I read the whole trilogy probably at least 20 times, and damned if that Balrog on screen wasn't EXACTLY what I'd been imagining the whole time. Plenty of other stuff too.
 
2017-03-17 03:40:36 PM  
TO be fair, Shawshank, The Body, Apt Pupil were actually novellas, not shorts. And Eddie and Susannah didn't appear in the first book if I recall correctly. I personally think Christine is a great book about friendship, family and being a teenager. As much as I love John Carpenter I thought the movie skipped on all three and had the oldest teen cast this side of Grease.
Would still,like to have seen a in his prime Christian Slater in 'Rage'- would have been a none more black version of Heathers.
The Mist is great to watch in its black and white version,
Still hoping for a talisman one day, and of more recent stuff Joyland
 
2017-03-17 04:14:58 PM  

Slappy Longballs: bhcompy: jake_lex: 

And Kubrick, in general, is overrated.

Gotta disagree with that. Not that I'm a Kubrick fan, but pretty much everyone says he's overrated now. Which means he's not really overrated.


I dunno, he's pretty bad. His characters never explain everything verbally and most of movies need popups so that the viewer can understand what's going on.
 
2017-03-17 04:15:06 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Shawshank was a short story, but it was a pretty decent adaptation given what they had to work with. Same goes for Stand By Me and King's short story "The Body". I still haven't gotten around to watching Green Mile, which is a shame because I heard it was a decent movie and adaptation of the book.


"Different Seasons" adapted amazing well on screen.  Shawshank, Apt Pupil, and The Body were fantastic on screen.

If I remember correctly, wasn't Green Mile written with intention to be adapted to screen?  Not as a screenplay in itself, but with an eye that it was definitely going to end up as a movie.  I thought I read that somewhere.  I could be wrong.  Either way, both forms were solid.
 
2017-03-17 04:16:02 PM  

Keller:  I personally think Christine is a great book about friendship, family and being a teenager. As much as I love John Carpenter I thought the movie skipped on all three and had the oldest teen cast this side of Grease.


Christine actually has my vote for one his BEST adaptions for the very reason that it cut out a lot of stuff that i felt was fluff.   That book was the least enjoyable to have slogged through, for me, for anything that he's ever written.  its like 800 pages, and chock full of flashbacks, flash forwards, back-histories of unimportant characters... just too much).    One of the rare cases in film history that i think the adaption is better than the source material.
 
2017-03-17 04:18:49 PM  

Shazam999: Slappy Longballs: bhcompy: jake_lex: 

And Kubrick, in general, is overrated.

Gotta disagree with that. Not that I'm a Kubrick fan, but pretty much everyone says he's overrated now. Which means he's not really overrated.

I dunno, he's pretty bad. His characters never explain everything verbally and most of movies need popups so that the viewer can understand what's going on.


His characters never explain anything?  So when you go to a museum, do want to listen to some headphones explaining WHY what you're looking at is compelling.  Kubrick WANTS the viewer to internalize these things.   He's purposefully not having character spoon-feed your takeaway.
 
2017-03-17 04:19:56 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: I'm still disappointed that it doesn't appear to have Eddie and Susannah, yet keeps Jake.


Eddie and Susannah weren't in the first book, were they?
 
2017-03-17 04:23:03 PM  

T.rex: Shazam999: Slappy Longballs: bhcompy: jake_lex: 

And Kubrick, in general, is overrated.

Gotta disagree with that. Not that I'm a Kubrick fan, but pretty much everyone says he's overrated now. Which means he's not really overrated.

I dunno, he's pretty bad. His characters never explain everything verbally and most of movies need popups so that the viewer can understand what's going on.

His characters never explain anything?  So when you go to a museum, do want to listen to some headphones explaining WHY what you're looking at is compelling.  Kubrick WANTS the viewer to internalize these things.   He's purposefully not having character spoon-feed your takeaway.


Is everybody on Fark on stoopid mode today?
 
2017-03-17 04:27:47 PM  

Khellendros: If I remember correctly, wasn't Green Mile written with intention to be adapted to screen?


I don't know about that, but when he originally wrote the book it was published as a serial, so you had to buy six books to complete the story.
 
2017-03-17 04:29:09 PM  
King is almost 70.  Jesus, has it been that long?
 
2017-03-17 04:29:54 PM  

Lsherm: Dingleberry Dickwad: I'm still disappointed that it doesn't appear to have Eddie and Susannah, yet keeps Jake.

Eddie and Susannah weren't in the first book, were they?


I thought it was taking place after all the books.
 
2017-03-17 04:33:15 PM  

Smirkles37: Lsherm: Dingleberry Dickwad: I'm still disappointed that it doesn't appear to have Eddie and Susannah, yet keeps Jake.

Eddie and Susannah weren't in the first book, were they?

I thought it was taking place after all the books.


Yes, and to answer that question further would be a huge spoiler for the books.
 
2017-03-17 04:38:55 PM  

warrenn: Some movies are faithful adaptation of the book, but not very good. Others are good movies, but not good adaptations. And others are just bad altogether. "Stand By Me" was one that was both good and a faithful adaptation. Is that the only one?

Misery

was pretty faithful. And pretty damn creepy, as I recall.

Except for The Hobbling. Rob Reiner pussied out on The Hobbling.
 
2017-03-17 04:40:41 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Lsherm: warrenn: Some movies are faithful adaptation of the book, but not very good. Others are good movies, but not good adaptations. And others are just bad altogether. "Stand By Me" was one that was both good and a faithful adaptation. Is that the only one?

The Green Mile was a good book and faithful adaptation. Shawshank Redemption was a good book and adaptation. The Mist was a good book and the movie adaptation was faithful right up until Frank Darabont made the ending even better. Misery? Great book, pretty faithful adaptation.

Christine was a pretty faithful adaptation, but the book was kinda meh.

Shawshank was a short story, but it was a pretty decent adaptation given what they had to work with. Same goes for Stand By Me and King's short story "The Body". I still haven't gotten around to watching Green Mile, which is a shame because I heard it was a decent movie and adaptation of the book.

I'm still pretty apprehensive about the Dark Tower flick. It may end up being a decent movie, but I'm still disappointed that it doesn't appear to have Eddie and Susannah, yet keeps Jake.


Eddie and Susannah don't show up until the Drawing of the Three, and I am guessing this movie just covers the first book, and we will see Eddie and Susannah if it does well in the theater..  One thing about the movie that is going to take adjusting for me - I read the books over several years, and all that time, I envisioned Roland as someone that resembled Clint Eastwood from his western days.  Idris Elba does not resemble Clint Eastwood.

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2017-03-17 04:42:21 PM  

Shazam999: I dunno, he's pretty bad. His characters never explain everything verbally and most of movies need popups so that the viewer can understand what's going on.


I'll admit, I haven't seen a ton of his films.  But what I have seen didn't need any explanation.  Full Metal Jacket, The Shining, 2001, Eyes Wide Shut, and Dr. Strangelove - these movies were all pretty digestible.

Are the lesser known ones that strange?
 
2017-03-17 04:45:56 PM  
T.Rex- fair enough: for me it' the relationships etc I get the. Most from from King, but within film I can appreciate your view.
In other news of to watch episode one series two of Hap and Leonard, by my other favourite character writer- Joe r lansdale.
 
2017-03-17 04:45:58 PM  

FuLinHyu: Stephen King is one of the few writers who can introduce a character, and kill off that character in short order and have you feel for them.

He is great at conveying emotions and feelings (which work wonders in the genre he writes in), BUT, the man SUCKS at endings. I have read most of his books and the best are the short stories - novel length and he seems to get bored and just "wraps it up". I expect to see a shout out to Dave Chappelle's skit.


Absolutely. And the ending to the gunslinger series was the worst.
 
2017-03-17 04:50:48 PM  
A Screaming man- very interesting to read William Goldman's comments on writing the screenplay around that scene- as much as I love Mr Goldman, I'd love to hear his comments on the 'Dreamcatcher' screenplay !
 
2017-03-17 04:52:09 PM  

Keller: A Screaming man- very interesting to read William Goldman's comments on writing the screenplay around that scene- as much as I love Mr Goldman, I'd love to hear his comments on the 'Dreamcatcher' screenplay !


Ha--me too, bro!
 
2017-03-17 04:53:16 PM  
The writer with the worst endings is Neal Stephenson. All of his books essentially end with a sentence that might as well say, 'And then they all went home.' 

Snowcrash ended like an exotic, electrified Spinner from Blade Runner hitting a brick wall at max speed.
 
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