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2017-03-17 05:22:31 AM  
I'd watch more boxing / MMA / etc if the guys were simply professionals who enter the ring and go at it for a bit. Instead, we get all the emotional angles because one fighter really hates another and when they meet up in the ring it will mean so much more than who bested whom in that match. It's like a season of General Hospital that stretches for months before the WWE main event that's rather anticlimactic.

You have to respect hockey fighters. It's not personal, just professional beatings (taken and given) to help get the fans excited and the players pushing a little bit harder to win. Sometimes, maybe it's a little bit of expected payback for a dirty play earlier. It's just business; although, when it does cross the line and get out of control... it can really spiral out of control and it's certainly worth filming. Those days when the Red Wings and Avalanche were true enemies was a delight to watch. Gawd, I love hockey!
 
2017-03-17 06:10:35 AM  
I haven't watched the video but fighting in hockey serves a lot of important purposes.  It's only when players didn't respect the code of conduct that things get out of hand.
 
2017-03-17 06:29:20 AM  

orangehat: I haven't watched the video but fighting in hockey serves a lot of important purposes.  It's only when players didn't respect the code of conduct that things get out of hand.


I have to respectability disagree. That fighting is this safety valve that prevents worse violence is only true because hockey still allows the worse violence.

If you eliminate fighting, and by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.

For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted. Those that did not, were fined and suspended.

/ played in a floor hockey league as a teenager where fighting was only a five minute penalty. It was an interesting league to say the least.
 
2017-03-17 06:33:37 AM  

FreeLawyer: orangehat: I haven't watched the video but fighting in hockey serves a lot of important purposes.  It's only when players didn't respect the code of conduct that things get out of hand.

I have to respectability disagree. That fighting is this safety valve that prevents worse violence is only true because hockey still allows the worse violence.

If you eliminate fighting, and by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.

For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted. Those that did not, were fined and suspended.

/ played in a floor hockey league as a teenager where fighting was only a five minute penalty. It was an interesting league to say the least.


I've never heard of fighting in floor hockey.
 
2017-03-17 06:58:02 AM  

punkwrestler: FreeLawyer: orangehat: I haven't watched the video but fighting in hockey serves a lot of important purposes.  It's only when players didn't respect the code of conduct that things get out of hand.

I have to respectability disagree. That fighting is this safety valve that prevents worse violence is only true because hockey still allows the worse violence.

If you eliminate fighting, and by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.

For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted. Those that did not, were fined and suspended.

/ played in a floor hockey league as a teenager where fighting was only a five minute penalty. It was an interesting league to say the least.

I've never heard of fighting in floor hockey.


Neither had I. I suppose it didn't help that this was right after slaphot came out. The championship game in the  league never finished because the fighting spilled over to the stands. Needless to say it was the first and last year of the league.
 
2017-03-17 07:05:25 AM  

roostercube: Those days when the Red Wings and Avalanche were true enemies was a delight to watch. Gawd, I love hockey!


Almost 20 years ago....

Red Wings vs Avalanche
Youtube 5yXCjBO-2A4
 
2017-03-17 07:17:37 AM  

roostercube: I'd watch more boxing / MMA / etc if the guys were simply professionals who enter the ring and go at it for a bit. Instead, we get all the emotional angles because one fighter really hates another and when they meet up in the ring it will mean so much more than who bested whom in that match.


The horrible, sappy "human interest" coverage is also one of several reasons I loathe the Olympics.

(How the IOC acts are most of the rest of the reasons)
 
2017-03-17 07:18:26 AM  

Kuta: roostercube: Those days when the Red Wings and Avalanche were true enemies was a delight to watch. Gawd, I love hockey!

Almost 20 years ago....

[YouTube video]


The best song about a suicide on live TV ever.
 
2017-03-17 07:25:00 AM  

Kuta: roostercube: Those days when the Red Wings and Avalanche were true enemies was a delight to watch. Gawd, I love hockey!

Almost 20 years ago....

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/5yXCjBO-2A4 - 480x360]


I watched that video yesterday. That was a brutal fight.

/hockey playoffs start soon
//go bolts
 
2017-03-17 07:43:51 AM  

FreeLawyer: If you eliminate fighting,


Cheap shots go up.

FreeLawyer: nd by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.


You don't see cheap shots. That's what makes them cheap. Ever take a blade to the back of the knee?

The NHL is not going to suspend a player for 10 games for a silly cheap shot. Give your head a shake.

FreeLawyer: For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted.


No they didn't. In fact, things have gotten worse:

img.fark.net

Conclusion: You're full of shiat.
 
2017-03-17 08:15:28 AM  
yeah it was a fight but it wasnt a fark you for that slewfoot kind of fight..

bodyblow bodyblow bodyblow

still the chatter was great.

/the staged fights between 2 enforcers have more or less left the game -- now if only theere werent fights just because a clean hit happens
 
2017-03-17 08:26:15 AM  

roostercube: It's like a season of General Hospital that stretches for months before the WWE main event that's rather anticlimactic.


So, you're pissed too that Carly defeated Olivia justlikethat and Rudge couldn't beat someone half his height at close range?

/mancard
 
2017-03-17 08:27:46 AM  

FreeLawyer: I have to respectability disagree. That fighting is this safety valve that prevents worse violence is only true because hockey still allows the worse violence.

If you eliminate fighting, and by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.


College Hockey has game suspensions. Hasn't made it wimpy.
 
2017-03-17 08:36:23 AM  
Saw this the other day. I find it odd that a hockey player would say that about working on cardio.
That's all they do all season just by playing
 
2017-03-17 09:14:05 AM  
Ishkur:
FreeLawyer: For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted.

No they didn't. In fact, things have gotten worse:

[img.fark.net image 666x549]


They probably haven't. Over the same time period, concussion rates in nearly everything have gone up along similar lines. We're just diagnosing concussions more often than we used to.
 
2017-03-17 09:14:15 AM  

Ishkur: FreeLawyer: If you eliminate fighting,

Cheap shots go up.

FreeLawyer: nd by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.

You don't see cheap shots. That's what makes them cheap. Ever take a blade to the back of the knee?

The NHL is not going to suspend a player for 10 games for a silly cheap shot. Give your head a shake.

FreeLawyer: For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted.

No they didn't. In fact, things have gotten worse:

[img.fark.net image 666x549]

Conclusion: You're full of shiat.


Number of concussion reports are up because teams and players used to hide concussions previously you dolt.

There are cheapshots all the time in hockey, there is no need for fighting, it doesn't solve or fix anything. There are tons of really physical sports that do not allow fighting and there isn't any huge problem with cheapshots or injuries.

Hell the big Avs/Det fight hockey fans have been jerking to this week started because of cheapshots.  Nobody was afraid to take a cheap shot because they may have to fight somebody for 20 seconds.
 
2017-03-17 09:26:19 AM  

Kuta: roostercube: Those days when the Red Wings and Avalanche were true enemies was a delight to watch. Gawd, I love hockey!

Almost 20 years ago....

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/5yXCjBO-2A4 - 480x360]

Darren McCarty was the King of Detroit for a good long time after that game. Beat the snot of of Turtle Lemeuix *and* scored the game winner.

The ~5 years where the Wings and Avs were compatible teams was the best. Just about every game was a bloodbath, to the point where the coaches Crawford and Bowman were nose-to-nose.The fights during those games weren't about getting your team fired up and telling the other guy "good job", they literally hated each other and wanted to beat the piss out of the other guy. It really was a fun time to be a hockey fan, that's for sure.
 
2017-03-17 09:27:01 AM  
Ann Arbor is part of Canada now?
 
2017-03-17 09:57:38 AM  
Did a Mountie ride out on a moose and break a bottle of maple syrup over everyone's heads, while Sloan blasted in the background?

If not, it's not the most Canadian hockey fight ever.
 
2017-03-17 10:18:43 AM  

jake_lex: Did a Mountie ride out on a moose and break a bottle of maple syrup over everyone's heads, while Sloan blasted in the background?

If not, it's not the most Canadian hockey fight ever.


The judges would have also accepted Tragically Hip.

/Sloan > Tragically Hip
 
2017-03-17 10:21:57 AM  
North Stars/Bruins Brawl; Wensink Challenges Minnesota Bench
Youtube jUucv6tRh88


It's a far cry from the 70's Bruins, that's for sure.
 
2017-03-17 10:22:28 AM  
Boston Bruins Go Into The Stands In 1979
Youtube fpbD6W7YT5A


...or this mess.
 
2017-03-17 10:48:23 AM  
Putting on the foil, coach.
 
2017-03-17 10:49:02 AM  

Ishkur: FreeLawyer: If you eliminate fighting,

Cheap shots go up.

FreeLawyer: nd by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.

You don't see cheap shots. That's what makes them cheap. Ever take a blade to the back of the knee?

The NHL is not going to suspend a player for 10 games for a silly cheap shot. Give your head a shake.

FreeLawyer: For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted.

No they didn't. In fact, things have gotten worse:

[img.fark.net image 666x549]

Conclusion: You're full of shiat.


if the NHL started giving ten game suspensions for serious cheap shots there would be less serious cheap shots.
As to the NFL, sorry hits to the head of receivers are down, way down. The fact that concussions in the NFL haven't gone down is based on a number of factors.  The most relevant to this discussion being hits to the head of defenseless receivers represent a relatively small percentage of concussions received by NFL players.
While I am full of shiat, it's not for the reasons you listed.
 
2017-03-17 10:51:57 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: FreeLawyer: I have to respectability disagree. That fighting is this safety valve that prevents worse violence is only true because hockey still allows the worse violence.

If you eliminate fighting, and by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.

College Hockey has game suspensions. Hasn't made it wimpy.


My point exactly. To take it one step further, there is no body checking in women's hockey, but a USA Canada game is pretty entertaining.
/I'm not advocating the elimination of body checking in men's hockey.
 
2017-03-17 10:53:17 AM  
More like roughing really.
 
2017-03-17 10:57:52 AM  

Ishkur: The NHL is not going to suspend a player for 10 games for a silly cheap shot. Give your head a shake.


Obviously you have never heard of Raffi Torres.
 
2017-03-17 11:14:43 AM  

abhorrent1: Saw this the other day. I find it odd that a hockey player would say that about working on cardio.
That's all they do all season just by playing


pfffft. there's no exercise in hockey. It's just taking advantage of momentum on a near frictionless surface. And they only play like 2 minutes at a time before swapping out and chillin' on the bench. And there's one guy on the team just stands in one place the whole game. And it's nice and cool, so you don't even sweat.

It's not a REAL sport like golf.
 
2017-03-17 11:19:01 AM  

FreeLawyer: My point exactly. To take it one step further, there is no body checking in women's hockey, but a USA Canada game is pretty entertaining.
/I'm not advocating the elimination of body checking in men's hockey.


It's amazing people enjoy Olympic hockey and yet somehow the same exact players are able to stop themselves from cheapshots without fighting. There's still checking too!
 
2017-03-17 11:30:41 AM  

Tax Boy: abhorrent1: Saw this the other day. I find it odd that a hockey player would say that about working on cardio.
That's all they do all season just by playing

pfffft. there's no exercise in hockey. It's just taking advantage of momentum on a near frictionless surface. And they only play like 2 minutes at a time before swapping out and chillin' on the bench. And there's one guy on the team just stands in one place the whole game. And it's nice and cool, so you don't even sweat.

It's not a REAL sport like golf.


img.fark.net
 
2017-03-17 12:43:44 PM  

FreeLawyer: Ishkur: FreeLawyer: If you eliminate fighting,

Cheap shots go up.

FreeLawyer: nd by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.

You don't see cheap shots. That's what makes them cheap. Ever take a blade to the back of the knee?

The NHL is not going to suspend a player for 10 games for a silly cheap shot. Give your head a shake.

FreeLawyer: For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted.

No they didn't. In fact, things have gotten worse:

[img.fark.net image 666x549]

Conclusion: You're full of shiat.

if the NHL started giving ten game suspensions for serious cheap shots there would be less serious cheap shots.
As to the NFL, sorry hits to the head of receivers are down, way down. The fact that concussions in the NFL haven't gone down is based on a number of factors.  The most relevant to this discussion being hits to the head of defenseless receivers represent a relatively small percentage of concussions received by NFL players.
While I am full of shiat, it's not for the reasons you listed.


10 game suspensions for "cheap shots"?  Are you farking nuts?  The league can't even consistently call routine minors in a single game, much less what a "cheap shot" is.   There's too much inconsistency with ref calls across games to even touch this fairly.   Carey Price beat a guy laying on the ice with his blocker and didn't even get a text message from the dept of player safety.   Malkin jumped off his skates to throw an elbow last month and nothing.  Yet 4th line guys on non original 6 teams get suspensions for much less.   Sorry, you take enforcers and fighting completely out with your idea and the game is ruined.
 
2017-03-17 12:52:46 PM  

MugzyBrown: FreeLawyer: My point exactly. To take it one step further, there is no body checking in women's hockey, but a USA Canada game is pretty entertaining.
/I'm not advocating the elimination of body checking in men's hockey.

It's amazing people enjoy Olympic hockey and yet somehow the same exact players are able to stop themselves from cheapshots without fighting. There's still checking too!


The only people interested in removing fighting from hockey are usually the ones that also want to see 20 goals a game.

Basically, they want basketball on ice.

There are 3 reasons why no one fights in the Olympics:

1. Very condensed schedule. Get tossed from 2 or more games and you are pretty much done, possibly banned for life.

2. Most teams ice their most offensively talented players (unless you are the US). For the most part those players don't fight.

3. Olympic ice surface is bigger which favors speed over hits/defense. I would be all in favor of making the NHL ice as big but the owners aren't going to remove seats to make that happen.

What I don't agree with is the new basketball/ice hockey people wanting to remove fighting, hitting and are in favor of increasing the net size to soccer specs. I'm not sure why those people even watch the sport.
 
2017-03-17 01:02:52 PM  
I'm not your buddy, guy!
 
2017-03-17 01:07:22 PM  

abhorrent1: Saw this the other day. I find it odd that a hockey player would say that about working on cardio.
That's all they do all season just by playing


You would be surprised how exhausting one of those fights are.  During play, you can always coast and breath between involved play.  Even a short fight feels like you just finished a 5 minute shift.  I was surprised when I got in one, and it was just a horsing around fight like they had, just for laughs.  We both barely skated off, and the other guy coaches hockey.

I've watched a pro practice.  It's much harder skating than the game.
 
2017-03-17 01:18:56 PM  

Kuta: roostercube: Those days when the Red Wings and Avalanche were true enemies was a delight to watch. Gawd, I love hockey!

Almost 20 years ago....

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/5yXCjBO-2A4 - 480x360]


This is my favorite hockey fight ever.

rjakobi: Ishkur: The NHL is not going to suspend a player for 10 games for a silly cheap shot. Give your head a shake.

Obviously you have never heard of Raffi Torres.


I still hate that guy so much. I'll never forget seeing Hossa's too-still body on the ice and then taken out on a stretcher.
 
2017-03-17 01:31:48 PM  
img.fark.net
Hi Ogie. Buy you a soda after the game?
 
2017-03-17 01:40:52 PM  

hogans: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/jUucv6tRh88 - 480x360]

It's a far cry from the 70's Bruins, that's for sure.


Those were some of the most fun teams ever.  Didn't have any stars really but just about every forward would chip in 20 goals and the whole lineup could tango at the drop of a hat.  Those teams had two problems though.  1) Montreal was really really good and a hair better every year. 2) Don Cherry never learned to count.
 
2017-03-17 02:36:41 PM  

theurge14: FreeLawyer: Ishkur: FreeLawyer: If you eliminate fighting,

Cheap shots go up.

FreeLawyer: nd by eliminate I mean make it a ten game suspension instead of five minutes in the sin bin, stick swinging and other cheap shots to the head will not increase if the NHL finally decides to take serious, consistent action in penalties, fines and suspensions against players who target the head.

You don't see cheap shots. That's what makes them cheap. Ever take a blade to the back of the knee?

The NHL is not going to suspend a player for 10 games for a silly cheap shot. Give your head a shake.

FreeLawyer: For all the well deserved criticism of the NFL's concussion policies, a few years ago the league changed the rules about head shots to a defenseless receiver in mid season. With a few weeks, the vast majority of players adapted.

No they didn't. In fact, things have gotten worse:

[img.fark.net image 666x549]

Conclusion: You're full of shiat.

if the NHL started giving ten game suspensions for serious cheap shots there would be less serious cheap shots.
As to the NFL, sorry hits to the head of receivers are down, way down. The fact that concussions in the NFL haven't gone down is based on a number of factors.  The most relevant to this discussion being hits to the head of defenseless receivers represent a relatively small percentage of concussions received by NFL players.
While I am full of shiat, it's not for the reasons you listed.

10 game suspensions for "cheap shots"?  Are you farking nuts?  The league can't even consistently call routine minors in a single game, much less what a "cheap shot" is.   There's too much inconsistency with ref calls across games to even touch this fairly.   Carey Price beat a guy laying on the ice with his blocker and didn't even get a text message from the dept of player safety.   Malkin jumped off his skates to throw an elbow last month and nothing.  Yet 4th line guys on non original 6 teams get suspensions for much less.   Sorry, you take enforcers and fighting completely out with your idea and the game is ruined.


A couple of things. One. I said serious cheap shots. Not the run of the mill cheap shot that is part of practically every sport.

Two. Guys like you should just admit you like fighting in hockey. Come clean and be honest about it and quit hiding behind this myth that a fight between the two guys whose job it is to fight prevents serious cheap shots from the other guys.  It's not like you're alone in liking fighting. I'm the one who is in the minority here
 
2017-03-17 03:06:29 PM  

Ishkur: No they didn't. In fact, things have gotten worse:


Point of order: An increase on the number of players on injury report due to concussion does not mean there were more concussions. It means more actually got reported.
 
2017-03-17 03:34:56 PM  

themunsterfullback: hogans: [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/jUucv6tRh88 - 480x360]

It's a far cry from the 70's Bruins, that's for sure.

Those were some of the most fun teams ever.  Didn't have any stars really but just about every forward would chip in 20 goals and the whole lineup could tango at the drop of a hat.  Those teams had two problems though.  1) Montreal was really really good and a hair better every year. 2) Don Cherry never learned to count.


img.fark.net
THERE ARE FIVE PLAYERS
 
2017-03-17 03:50:15 PM  
MugzyBrown:
There are cheapshots all the time in hockey, there is no need for fighting, it doesn't solve or fix anything. There are tons of really physical sports that do not allow fighting and there isn't any huge problem with cheapshots or injuries.

img.fark.net
 
2017-03-17 04:37:29 PM  

roostercube: I'd watch more boxing / MMA / etc if the guys were simply professionals who enter the ring and go at it for a bit. Instead, we get all the emotional angles because one fighter really hates another and when they meet up in the ring it will mean so much more than who bested whom in that match.


Good thing you're not a fight promoter.
 
2017-03-17 04:39:35 PM  

headshot1485: MugzyBrown:
There are cheapshots all the time in hockey, there is no need for fighting, it doesn't solve or fix anything. There are tons of really physical sports that do not allow fighting and there isn't any huge problem with cheapshots or injuries.

[img.fark.net image 200x150]


I wish I could funny this more than once!
 
2017-03-17 05:35:23 PM  

MugzyBrown: Number of concussion reports are up because teams and players used to hide concussions previously you dolt.


They actually hide them more now. Especially the NFL.
 
2017-03-17 05:37:21 PM  

FreeLawyer: if the NHL started giving ten game suspensions for serious cheap shots there would be less serious cheap shots.


Serious cheap shots don't actually happen that often.
 
2017-03-17 05:38:28 PM  

rjakobi: Obviously you have never heard of Raffi Torres.


As a Canucks fan, I am more than well aware that Raffi Torres is not a cheap shot artist.

He is an injury machine.
 
2017-03-17 05:41:31 PM  

MugzyBrown: It's amazing people enjoy Olympic hockey and yet somehow the same exact players are able to stop themselves from cheapshots without fighting. There's still checking too!


Why are you comparing a 2 week 8 team 7 game tournament to an 8 month 100 game 30 team league?
 
2017-03-17 05:44:58 PM  

Ishkur: MugzyBrown: It's amazing people enjoy Olympic hockey and yet somehow the same exact players are able to stop themselves from cheapshots without fighting. There's still checking too!

Why are you comparing a 2 week 8 team 7 game tournament to an 8 month 100 game 30 team league?


Because he's an attention whore.
 
2017-03-17 05:47:46 PM  

FreeLawyer: I said serious cheap shots.


Define "serious cheap shots".

Maybe the NHL can learn from your insight and appoint you Director of Player Safety for your Fark post that has solved a problem in 5 minutes what the greatest hockey minds in the world have not been able to solve in 50 years.

FreeLawyer: Guys like you should just admit you like fighting in hockey


Of course we do. There's nothing wrong with it.

Whenever someone clucks about wanting to remove fighting in hockey, its usually someone who doesn't like hockey and watches precious little of it.
 
2017-03-17 05:50:50 PM  
TIL: the NHL Wheel of Justice has its own Facebook page.

https://m.facebook.com/nhlwheelofjustice/
 
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