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(Jalopnik)   In the bizarre world of auto parts prices, car batteries have become more expensive due to warmer winters   ( jalopnik.com) divider line
    More: Facepalm, Rechargeable battery, car batteries, Car battery, Recyclable materials, recycled lead-acid batteries, lithium-ion batteries, lighter lithium-ion batteries, old batteries  
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1246 clicks; posted to Business » on 16 Mar 2017 at 7:10 PM (30 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2017-03-16 03:17:39 PM  
That's some bullshiat there. You don't need to make new batteries because demand is lower. The only way there is a shortage is due to overproduction which is a management driven issue, not supply or weather.
 
2017-03-16 03:32:04 PM  

edmo: That's some bullshiat there. You don't need to make new batteries because demand is lower. The only way there is a shortage is due to overproduction which is a management driven issue, not supply or weather.


So there will be a glut shortly and battery prices will fall sharply.
 
2017-03-16 06:37:33 PM  
Interestingly, this is all happening as the price of lithium-ion batteries, a much more energy-dense battery chemistry, drops. The biggest advantage of old-school car batteries has been that they're still cheaper than lithium-ion batteries. Well, that, and they're less likely to explode.

I'm still not sure I'd trust a lithium-ion battery without the car being explicitly designed for it. There's too much temperature variation in a regular engine bay. Plus old Jablooey at the local garage might accidentally puncture one and start the next great fire.
 
2017-03-16 07:49:59 PM  

Lsherm: I'm still not sure I'd trust a lithium-ion battery without the car being explicitly designed for it. There's too much temperature variation in a regular engine bay. Plus old Jablooey at the local garage might accidentally puncture one and start the next great fire.


Lithium iron phosphate batteries are quite close to lead-acid voltages (4 cells = nominal 12.8V, charging around 14.6) and are less explodey than other varieties. However I don't know how they compare at extreme temperatures.
 
2017-03-16 08:21:30 PM  
I looked at the comments... and was not disappointed.

Of course, now I'm less inspired to make the same car battery puns here, and it leaves me feeling shafted and cranky.
 
2017-03-16 09:09:24 PM  
I heard they can get lotsa lead from the old pipes in Flint, MI.
 
2017-03-16 09:13:16 PM  
Buy an Optima and forget about it for 5+ years.
 
2017-03-16 09:33:45 PM  
I paid the same price for a Group 49 battery three months ago as I did back in 2010.

Lithium batteries have higher energy densities, but their power density is lacking. The 100 kWh battery in a Tesla P100D weighs 1300 lbs and is rated at 1500 amps. Trying to pull 800 amps out of a 60 lb Lithium would destroy it, but my van's battery does it every time I start the engine.
 
2017-03-17 12:11:09 AM  
Batteries have jumped in price. For an average 'group 35' battery, they used to be $60-$75 for a midrange battery (Duralast, Diehard, Everstart, etc.)..now most stores want well over $100. They are somehow still a hair under $75 at Costco (as a comparison, Sam's Club wants $102).
 
2017-03-17 12:53:51 AM  

majestic: Buy an Optima and forget about it for 5+ years.


My yellow top is going on 9 years now.  Which is great as they are now about $100 more than they were then.  I keep expecting it to fail but so far it's holding up.
 
2017-03-17 05:42:37 AM  
Thanks to recent winters being the warmest on record, less car batteries are dying from the cold.

Fewer.  Argh!
 
2017-03-17 08:23:14 AM  
Hot weather actually is worse for batteries. (family owned auto parts store 50+ yrs)
Weather and batteries
 
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