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2017-03-15 12:33:27 PM  
I was under the impression that the last great original movie from Hollywood was in 1994 and lost
Best Picture to Memberberries: the motion picture
 
2017-03-15 12:35:50 PM  
I can't find the source for this, but I'm pretty sure it's Dave Barry.  I'm typing from memory, so hopefully this is pretty close to the original:

Somewhere, in Hollywood, there exists a computer that has been generating TV scripts for decades.  Whenever writers are running thin on new show ideas, they query the computer, and it generates "Four quirky friends who live in apartments and do things", and a decade will go by, and writers need something fresh, query the computer, and get "Three quirky friends who live in an apartment, and do things", and then, another decade passes, the writers re-query the computer, which generates "Four quirky friends who live in apartments, and do things with other friends who also happen to live in other apartments", and so on.   We need to find this computer, and smash it into a million tiny pieces with hammers.
 
2017-03-15 12:53:34 PM  
Can someone tell me why there are so many police shows? If you didn't know better and only watched tv you would think cops are the smartest men in the world.
 
2017-03-15 01:00:02 PM  

Lambskincoat: Can someone tell me why there are so many police shows? If you didn't know better and only watched tv you would think cops are the smartest men in the world.


They are.  We all know this because they will shoot you dead if you disagree.
 
2017-03-15 01:02:00 PM  
I don't mind adaptations.
I don't even mind sequels.
I would happily run over the next reboot that crosses my path, with a steamroller.
And then I'd back up and do it again, just for the irony.
 
2017-03-15 01:05:14 PM  
IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT ORIGINAL MOVIES.

Oh, they SAY they do.  But then they take the family to Baysplosion IV: The Shakycam Reckoning.
 
2017-03-15 01:09:22 PM  
Hollywood is NOT out of original ideas.  It is swimming with original ideas.  The problem is that most studios are skittish about spending money on them.
 
2017-03-15 01:11:58 PM  

CaptainScrewy: Hollywood is NOT out of original ideas.  It is swimming with original ideas.  The problem is that most studios are skittish about spending money on them.


This. And most times you see an original idea, people boo because the idea was horrible and formulas work for a reason. Tropes are not bad, reality is unrealistic, and major deviations are often unsatisfying.
 
2017-03-15 01:12:46 PM  
The last thing out of Hollywood that I liked seeing was Jennifer Lawrence's asshole.

Plus I thought No Country For Old Men was really good.
 
2017-03-15 01:17:21 PM  
The mistake people make is to thing that Hollywood was ever in the business of original ideas.
 
2017-03-15 01:18:32 PM  
"Although 2016 does have one up on 1967. Of the ten, two films can consider themselves to have truly original stories. Both, interestingly enough, were animated hits: Zootropolis and The Secret Life of Pets."

Zootropolis? ZOOTROPOLIS?

"It's been eight years since we've seen an original film in the number one spot, too. We have James Cameron's Avatar to thank for that"

Avatar? Original?

Was this article written to put me into a rage?
 
2017-03-15 01:18:34 PM  

CaptainScrewy: Hollywood is NOT out of original ideas.  It is swimming with original ideas.  The problem is that most studios are skittish about spending money on them.

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2017-03-15 01:21:24 PM  
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2017-03-15 01:23:56 PM  
I have an original idea for a movie.  Picture this:  It's a buddy-cop film with a stodgy no-nonsense veteran who gets partnered up with the young, hip, fun rookie who doesn't play by the rules.  Nah, it'll never work.
 
2017-03-15 01:25:26 PM  

nmrsnr: "Although 2016 does have one up on 1967. Of the ten, two films can consider themselves to have truly original stories. Both, interestingly enough, were animated hits: Zootropolis and The Secret Life of Pets."

Zootropolis? ZOOTROPOLIS?


Okay, I just noticed that the link is a .uk link. Apparently they renamed it over there.

Still, Avatar is only "original" in that it is not an admitted adaptation. Ferngully, Pocahontas, and Dances With Wolves, which ironically would not qualify as originals, laugh at the concept.
 
2017-03-15 01:27:59 PM  

nmrsnr: Zootropolis? ZOOTROPOLIS?


lumiere-a.akamaihd.net
Renamed for overseas market, for whatever reason.
 
2017-03-15 01:29:53 PM  
So an adaptation of a book is an indication that there are no fresh ideas? Gee, let's look at 1939 movies, shall we?

Gone with the Wind-adapted from Margaret Mitchell's 1936 novel Gone with the Wind
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington- based on Lewis R. Foster's unpublished story "The Gentleman from Montana"
Goodbye, Mr. Chips- Based on the 1934 novel Goodbye, Mr. Chips by James Hilton
The Wizard of Oz -based on the 1900 novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum
The Hunchback of Notre Dame - based on Victor Hugo's novel of the same name.
Gunga Din -loosely based on the poem of the same name by Rudyard Kipling combined with elements of his short story collection Soldiers Three


Hollywood has always gotten inspiration from other media.
 
2017-03-15 01:29:54 PM  

CaptainScrewy: Hollywood is NOT out of original ideas.  It is swimming with original ideas.  The problem is that most studios are skittish about spending money on them.


This is because despite what the Oscars would have you believe Hollywood is not a creative endeavor in its pure sense; it is a method of wealth extraction designed to transfer money from the gullible to the Jews and gays. The people who finance films have no desire to lose money so they tend to stick with the safe bet because in the final calamity they can go back to their investors and say, "don't blame us because it worked the last time." Hollywood will--in film--always laud the underdog and the up-and-comer because it peddles hope to the downtrodden but in the boardrooms they fear the type because it is risky and could make them look bad.
 
2017-03-15 01:32:14 PM  
"someday, people will care who's ass it is, and why it's farting!"
 
2017-03-15 01:32:24 PM  

BafflerMeal: [img.fark.net image 594x540]


I have never seen that before on Fark. It is awesome sauce.
 
2017-03-15 01:37:25 PM  

nmrsnr: "Although 2016 does have one up on 1967. Of the ten, two films can consider themselves to have truly original stories. Both, interestingly enough, were animated hits: Zootropolis and The Secret Life of Pets."

Zootropolis? ZOOTROPOLIS?

"It's been eight years since we've seen an original film in the number one spot, too. We have James Cameron's Avatar to thank for that"

Avatar? Original?

Was this article written to put me into a rage?


Is Zootopia an original story? It looked like a paint by numbers affair.
 
2017-03-15 01:40:37 PM  
Remember when videogame players complained that they were getting the same old shiat, and then Kickstarter became a thing, so those players funded ORIGINALDONOTSTEAL projects like Bloodstained, Mighty No. 9, Planetary Annihilation, Shenmue III, Yooka-Laylee, and others?  I sure don't.
 
2017-03-15 01:40:49 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I have an original idea for a movie.  Picture this:  It's a buddy-cop film with a stodgy no-nonsense veteran who gets partnered up with the young, hip, fun rookie who doesn't play by the rules.  Nah, it'll never work.


No, you might be onto something there. Give them both different ethnicities to mix things up a bit.
 
2017-03-15 01:43:40 PM  

Keeve: Sin_City_Superhero: I have an original idea for a movie.  Picture this:  It's a buddy-cop film with a stodgy no-nonsense veteran who gets partnered up with the young, hip, fun rookie who doesn't play by the rules.  Nah, it'll never work.

No, you might be onto something there. Give them both different ethnicities to mix things up a bit.


What if one was an animal of some kind?
 
2017-03-15 01:44:47 PM  
Hollywood has never had ideas. Early movies were a ton of play and book adaptations.
 
2017-03-15 01:45:47 PM  
I have been trying to summit my script for a while but I keep getting into legal tangles.  It is a movie starring Gordon Ramsey as a tv chef who keeps getting a phone call from an anonymous man who wants him to try his recipe.  Gordon acts like a total prick of course do the man starts to terrorize Gordon and his family.  Finally, Gordon gives in after much torture and the death of his wife and the man gets what he wants when Gordon makes the fish and tried it I his show.  The problem is, I cannot get the estate of Dr Suess to allow a horror adaptation of Green Eggs and Ham.
 
2017-03-15 01:45:53 PM  

Fano: Keeve: Sin_City_Superhero: I have an original idea for a movie.  Picture this:  It's a buddy-cop film with a stodgy no-nonsense veteran who gets partnered up with the young, hip, fun rookie who doesn't play by the rules.  Nah, it'll never work.

No, you might be onto something there. Give them both different ethnicities to mix things up a bit.

What if one was an animal of some kind?


Spoiler: the dog was the villain all along.
 
2017-03-15 01:48:21 PM  
And it's a multi-billion dollar industry. So apparently everyone is fine with the unoriginality.
 
2017-03-15 01:49:34 PM  

CaptainScrewy: Hollywood is NOT out of original ideas.  It is swimming with original ideas.  The problem is that most studios are skittish about spending money on them.


You forgot to add, "They take the money and spend it on reboots, which in turn lose money anyway."
 
2017-03-15 01:52:57 PM  

Jake Havechek: Jennifer Lawrence's asshole


You can't be sure that is really her asshole. It's quite possible the hackers just threw in a pic of a porn star's asshole and said it came from her phone (like the lookalike facial pics). None of her other pics were explicit porn-like closeups.
 
2017-03-15 01:56:28 PM  

Arab Lover: Jake Havechek: Jennifer Lawrence's asshole

You can't be sure that is really her asshole. It's quite possible the hackers just threw in a pic of a porn star's asshole and said it came from her phone (like the lookalike facial pics). None of her other pics were explicit porn-like closeups.


Great, now I'm picturing that "I WANT TO BELIEVE" poster but with J-Laws asshole photoshopped over the UFO.

Thanks, Internet.
 
2017-03-15 01:59:55 PM  

Arab Lover: Jake Havechek: Jennifer Lawrence's asshole

You can't be sure that is really her asshole. It's quite possible the hackers just threw in a pic of a porn star's asshole and said it came from her phone (like the lookalike facial pics). None of her other pics were explicit porn-like closeups.


Could you tell by the pixels?
 
2017-03-15 02:01:11 PM  

nmrsnr: "Although 2016 does have one up on 1967. Of the ten, two films can consider themselves to have truly original stories. Both, interestingly enough, were animated hits: Zootropolis and The Secret Life of Pets."

Zootropolis? ZOOTROPOLIS?

"It's been eight years since we've seen an original film in the number one spot, too. We have James Cameron's Avatar to thank for that"

Avatar? Original?

Was this article written to put me into a rage?


"Original", meaning not based on a previous movie, play, or book.  Zootropolis and Avatar are not based on a previous movie, play, or book.
 
2017-03-15 02:06:50 PM  
Here's the remake the world needs.

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2017-03-15 02:10:37 PM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: Here's the remake the world needs.

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2017-03-15 02:14:07 PM  

skyotter: nmrsnr: Zootropolis? ZOOTROPOLIS?

[lumiere-a.akamaihd.net image 300x300]
Renamed for overseas market, for whatever reason.


There's apparently a zoo over there named Zootopia and Disney didn't want to fark with the copyright issues.
 
2017-03-15 02:36:43 PM  
Maltese Falcon was remade 2x within a 10 year period.  Remakes and sequels are nothing new
 
2017-03-15 03:03:27 PM  

worlddan: CaptainScrewy: Hollywood is NOT out of original ideas.  It is swimming with original ideas.  The problem is that most studios are skittish about spending money on them.

This is because despite what the Oscars would have you believe Hollywood is not a creative endeavor in its pure sense; it is a method of wealth extraction designed to transfer money from the gullible to the Jews and gays. The people who finance films have no desire to lose money so they tend to stick with the safe bet because in the final calamity they can go back to their investors and say, "don't blame us because it worked the last time." Hollywood will--in film--always laud the underdog and the up-and-comer because it peddles hope to the downtrodden but in the boardrooms they fear the type because it is risky and could make them look bad.


Milo? Is that you?
 
2017-03-15 03:17:30 PM  

Susan'sLittleAdamsApple: I have been trying to summit my script for a while but I keep getting into legal tangles.  It is a movie starring Gordon Ramsey as a tv chef who keeps getting a phone call from an anonymous man who wants him to try his recipe.  Gordon acts like a total prick of course do the man starts to terrorize Gordon and his family.  Finally, Gordon gives in after much torture and the death of his wife and the man gets what he wants when Gordon makes the fish and tried it I his show.  The problem is, I cannot get the estate of Dr Suess to allow a horror adaptation of Green Eggs and Ham.


I would totes watch the shiat out of that.
 
2017-03-15 03:40:32 PM  
There are no truly original ideas. Everything is derivative of something. That has been true since the second cave drawing.
 
2017-03-15 04:00:43 PM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: Here's the remake the world needs.

[img3.rnkr-static.com image 417x613]


Saw the pr0n, better acting.
 
2017-03-15 04:06:58 PM  
Hollywood has Humans have been devoid of fresh ideas for at least 5000 years

FTFY, subby

/We've been telling the same stories over and over again since shortly after we started telling stories
//And we've been fine with that up until relatively recently, historically speaking.
///The third slashie is a dark, gritty reboot with no real heroes, just varying shades of villainy.
 
2017-03-15 04:44:38 PM  
Is that when Disney started farking with the copyright laws?
 
2017-03-15 04:58:27 PM  
Adapting book into movies isn't the same as rehashing the same movies over and over again.
 
2017-03-15 05:09:03 PM  
There are only 7 plots. We just keep changing the scenery.
 
2017-03-15 05:17:58 PM  

Basily Gourt: There are only 7 plots. We just keep changing the scenery.


John Gardner said there are really only two plots: 1) a person goes on a journey, and 2) a stranger comes to town.

But one of those is really just a retelling of the other, from a different character's POV.
 
2017-03-15 05:25:27 PM  

skyotter: IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT ORIGINAL MOVIES.

Oh, they SAY they do.  But then they take the family to Baysplosion IV: The Shakycam Reckoning.


The Lobster was original, and disturbing.  Your average American wants to watch a hero to be introduced, followed by a crisis, and resolution.  Avatar was very formulaic, hardly original except for the stunning special effects.  I didn't even understand the second Pirates of the Caribbean movie, it made no sense yet made something like $1 billion between box office and DVD sales.  The thing about people who have a lot of money is they like investments that are certain to make money.  Like government contracts to build stuff, or a franchise with a good ROI history, or real estate in high income areas.  So don't expect My Dinner with Andre 2 starring unknown Chilean actors.
 
2017-03-15 05:27:15 PM  

Northern: skyotter: IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT ORIGINAL MOVIES.

Oh, they SAY they do.  But then they take the family to Baysplosion IV: The Shakycam Reckoning.

The Lobster was original, and disturbing.  Your average American wants to watch a hero to be introduced, followed by a crisis, and resolution.  Avatar was very formulaic, hardly original except for the stunning special effects.  I didn't even understand the second Pirates of the Caribbean movie, it made no sense yet made something like $1 billion between box office and DVD sales.  The thing about people who have a lot of money is they like investments that are certain to make money.  Like government contracts to build stuff, or a franchise with a good ROI history, or real estate in high income areas.  So don't expect My Dinner with Andre 2 starring unknown Chilean actors.


The Lobster was a terrible, horrible film and a pox on your family for reminding people it existed.
 
2017-03-15 05:38:15 PM  

BafflerMeal: Northern: skyotter: IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT ORIGINAL MOVIES.

Oh, they SAY they do.  But then they take the family to Baysplosion IV: The Shakycam Reckoning.

The Lobster was original, and disturbing.  Your average American wants to watch a hero to be introduced, followed by a crisis, and resolution.  Avatar was very formulaic, hardly original except for the stunning special effects.  I didn't even understand the second Pirates of the Caribbean movie, it made no sense yet made something like $1 billion between box office and DVD sales.  The thing about people who have a lot of money is they like investments that are certain to make money.  Like government contracts to build stuff, or a franchise with a good ROI history, or real estate in high income areas.  So don't expect My Dinner with Andre 2 starring unknown Chilean actors.

The Lobster was a terrible, horrible film and a pox on your family for reminding people it existed.


Sperglords don't like a look at the world they are creating.
 
2017-03-15 06:22:35 PM  

CaptainScrewy: Hollywood is NOT out of original ideas.  It is swimming with original ideas.  The problem is that most studios are skittish about spending money on them.


Sad. Cinema is art, and in art you have to take chances. A studio could go with a mix of high and low risk films every year to keep the cash revenue flowing. They need to take more chances to find more Cohen Brothers, too.
 
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