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(Onion AV Club)   Netflix to fund final edit and release of the legendary Orson Welles' most famous unfinished project. No, it isn't that one commercial for frozen peas   ( avclub.com) divider line
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2017-03-15 12:13:04 AM  
As long as it gets a disc release eventually, great.

The plot of the movie sounds like it would be a perfect bookend to his career.
 
2017-03-15 12:33:08 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: As long as it gets a disc release eventually, great.

The plot of the movie sounds like it would be a perfect bookend to his career.


Agreed, Wells was a genius. Especially in the acting.

The weird part is his career. Hearst was nearing the end of his power, and Mankiewicz didn't get hurt by the fallout of Citizen Kane. I've reed a few books about him, And I know the fallout from Kane Allowed RKO to wrest away final cuts from him.

But I never understood how he had friends in Hollywood, but yet he struggled with his career.
 
2017-03-15 12:42:25 AM  
I thought his most famous unfinished project was Don Quixote.
 
2017-03-15 12:48:20 AM  
I'm impressed with Netflix, they're not going to get subscription bounce for doing this.  Feels like a passion project for someone.
 
2017-03-15 12:59:05 AM  

EdwardTellerhands: I thought his most famous unfinished project was Don Quixote.


You could also count the Magnificent Ambersons, since it was taken away by RKO and hacked up.
 
2017-03-15 01:13:43 AM  
Obligatory....



Bonus: Pinky And The Brain animation with the original Orson Welles recording session dubbed in. With the classic "Get me a jury and show me how to say 'In July' and I'll go down on you".
 
2017-03-15 01:20:02 AM  
Did he ever finish that Paul Masson commercial?

 
2017-03-15 01:23:09 AM  
They'll still slap "Netflix Original" on it.
 
2017-03-15 01:26:03 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: EdwardTellerhands: I thought his most famous unfinished project was Don Quixote.

You could also count the Magnificent Ambersons, since it was taken away by RKO and hacked up.


Except there was enough footage there to turn into a movie. Unlike, say, Arkadin, which seemed to have a reel or two missing.
 
2017-03-15 01:27:43 AM  
Met Maurice LaMarche. He did the Rosebud Frozen Peas but for me without my asking..

What an awesome dude!
 
2017-03-15 01:42:57 AM  

Cepheus Crater: I'm impressed with Netflix, they're not going to get subscription bounce for doing this.  Feels like a passion project for someone.


No, not a side thing.
Netflix is planning to be the largest movie production company in two years. You think their stock is high now?
They have the freedom to do what others can't due to multi picture contracts, etc etc.
They don't need to get butts to the theater.
 
2017-03-15 02:10:52 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: FirstNationalBastard: As long as it gets a disc release eventually, great.

The plot of the movie sounds like it would be a perfect bookend to his career.

Agreed, Wells was a genius. Especially in the acting.

The weird part is his career. Hearst was nearing the end of his power, and Mankiewicz didn't get hurt by the fallout of Citizen Kane. I've reed a few books about him, And I know the fallout from Kane Allowed RKO to wrest away final cuts from him.

But I never understood how he had friends in Hollywood, but yet he struggled with his career.


I think his massive ego had a lot to do with it.
 
2017-03-15 02:23:50 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: But I never understood how he had friends in Hollywood, but yet he struggled with his career.


Welles was considered difficult to work with, probably because he was a perfectionist and he had very high standards on what he was working on. This was both good and bad. It was good because it was those high standards that made Orson Welles so highly regarded in the film industry. But it was bad because with all the money he made for acting gigs he self-financed most of his films so he could have complete control over everything. This was a problem because he ran out of money on several of his productions and worked on others instead (which is one reason there are so many unfinished Welles films).

Even when he entered his obese drunkard phase after the 1960's, he was still considered difficult to work with. But I guess when you're reduced to hawking cheap wine and frozen peas to make ends meet, you're bound to hold a grudge after you perform Shakespeare and create Citizen Kane.

Cepheus Crater: I'm impressed with Netflix, they're not going to get subscription bounce for doing this.  Feels like a passion project for someone.


When you have stupid amounts of money like Netflix, you can afford to blow ridiculous amounts of money on passion projects. If anything, I think it's more proof that Netflix doesn't just want to make money, they want to give second (and third) chances to projects that died too young, or never took off at all. They're a big name studio who is still interested in independant projects for the love of film. I'm certainly impressed, too.
 
2017-03-15 02:25:59 AM  
Rosebud Country Peas. Full of country goodness and green peaness.
 
2017-03-15 02:26:46 AM  

Weatherkiss: Darth_Lukecash: But I never understood how he had friends in Hollywood, but yet he struggled with his career.

Welles was considered difficult to work with, probably because he was a perfectionist and he had very high standards on what he was working on. This was both good and bad. It was good because it was those high standards that made Orson Welles so highly regarded in the film industry. But it was bad because with all the money he made for acting gigs he self-financed most of his films so he could have complete control over everything. This was a problem because he ran out of money on several of his productions and worked on others instead (which is one reason there are so many unfinished Welles films).

Even when he entered his obese drunkard phase after the 1960's, he was still considered difficult to work with. But I guess when you're reduced to hawking cheap wine and frozen peas to make ends meet, you're bound to hold a grudge after you perform Shakespeare and create Citizen Kane.

Cepheus Crater: I'm impressed with Netflix, they're not going to get subscription bounce for doing this.  Feels like a passion project for someone.

When you have stupid amounts of money like Netflix, you can afford to blow ridiculous amounts of money on passion projects. If anything, I think it's more proof that Netflix doesn't just want to make money, they want to give second (and third) chances to projects that died too young, or never took off at all. They're a big name studio who is still interested in independant projects for the love of film. I'm certainly impressed, too.


Well, Netflix had to get into the content creating game, because once they became successful, the studios became impossible to deal with.

So it's make their own stuff or have the same 10 PD films.
 
2017-03-15 02:39:04 AM  

stonelotus: Did he ever finish that Paul Masson commercial?

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nvxwf1jxdaM - 480x360]


MAHAAAAAAAA the french champagne.....[hic]!
 
2017-03-15 02:55:12 AM  
I want to see Orson Welles' Batman. I know it's a hoax but I still want someone to make it.
 
2017-03-15 03:18:48 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-03-15 03:18:50 AM  

mekkab: stonelotus: Did he ever finish that Paul Masson commercial?

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nvxwf1jxdaM - 480x360]

MAHAAAAAAAA the french champagne.....[hic]!


Sensibly priced at a dollar a jug!
 
2017-03-15 03:25:48 AM  
Mmm, green peaness.
 
2017-03-15 03:27:54 AM  

Pinner: Cepheus Crater: I'm impressed with Netflix, they're not going to get subscription bounce for doing this.  Feels like a passion project for someone.

No, not a side thing.
Netflix is planning to be the largest movie production company in two years. You think their stock is high now?
They have the freedom to do what others can't due to multi picture contracts, etc etc.
They don't need to get butts to the theater.


I figured they're trying to get into studio territory when they bought the rights to The Irishman. People have been waiting to see Al Pacino in a Martin Scorsese movie for decades.
 
mhd
2017-03-15 03:53:09 AM  
So there's a sequel to Manowar's Defender?
 
2017-03-15 04:28:54 AM  
It's Awesome Welles, subby.
 
2017-03-15 06:10:45 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: EdwardTellerhands: I thought his most famous unfinished project was Don Quixote.

You could also count the Magnificent Ambersons, since it was taken away by RKO and hacked up.


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2017-03-15 07:10:41 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Obligatory....

[YouTube video]

Bonus: Pinky And The Brain animation with the original Orson Welles recording session dubbed in. With the classic "Get me a jury and show me how to say 'In July' and I'll go down on you".


That whole episode was a classic. And all they did was take Maurice Lemarche's warmup and turned him loose.
 
2017-03-15 07:36:38 AM  
Ah, what luck!  There's a French-fry in my beard!
 
2017-03-15 08:06:01 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Obligatory....

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/QkYoBUlSE0I - 480x270]

Bonus: Pinky And The Brain animation with the original Orson Welles recording session dubbed in. With the classic "Get me a jury and show me how to say 'In July' and I'll go down on you".


Might as well also go with the original audio track. This show was so great.

 
2017-03-15 08:17:03 AM  
If they can do this, then they could get rights to Day the Crown Cried after Jerry Lewis dies.
 
2017-03-15 08:20:36 AM  
The bad news is that Adam Sandler will be editing it, as it was part of his deal with Netflix.
 
2017-03-15 08:37:58 AM  
Bogdonovitch has been trying to get this released for years. It's about time, it was feeling like it would have the same fate as Last Dangerous Visions.
 
2017-03-15 09:43:15 AM  

stonelotus: Did he ever finish that Paul Masson commercial?

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nvxwf1jxdaM - 480x360]


I could watch this over and over.
 
2017-03-15 09:49:55 AM  
Yes, OH YES! They're even better when your DEAD!
 
2017-03-15 10:19:47 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Ah, what luck!  There's a French-fry in my beard!

Damnit, damnit, damnit, came here to say this.
All right, roll the next clip....
 
2017-03-15 10:47:42 AM  

mhd: So there's a sequel to Manowar's Defender?
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/-AMi-vCfAWw - 480x360]


Defender was a sequel

 
2017-03-15 11:42:57 AM  

verbaltoxin: If they can do this, then they could get rights to Day the Crown Cried after Jerry Lewis dies.


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2017-03-15 01:52:46 PM  
Excellent reference to the Critic!  Full of country goodness and green pea-ness.  I'm not reading this.
 
2017-03-15 01:59:50 PM  

verbaltoxin: If they can do this, then they could get rights to Day the Crown Cried after Jerry Lewis dies.


Someone, probably Lewis, donated a copy of the film to the Library of Congress and said that it can be screened starting in 2025, presumably after Lewis has died.

/I have no idea if that means just anyone can see it, or if you have to be at a screening at the LoC in person, or what
 
2017-03-15 02:13:03 PM  

fluffy_pope: FirstNationalBastard: EdwardTellerhands: I thought his most famous unfinished project was Don Quixote.

You could also count the Magnificent Ambersons, since it was taken away by RKO and hacked up.

Except there was enough footage there to turn into a movie. Unlike, say, Arkadin, which seemed to have a reel or two missing.


The deal with Magnificent Ambersons is that he had a cut of it done, then the studio stepped in and changed it to a happy ending (see post-Kane studio meddling stuff upthread), and cut out about 45 additional minutes. The resulting movie is pretty well liked, but Wells himself said that the original version was even better than Kane. All the cut scenes have been tossed, but there was an uncut copy flown down to Brazil that could conceivably still exist. I did a Cracked article on lost stuff a few years ago that got into this.

/I claim no responsibility for the Mexican war movie and Chinese philosopher bits
 
2017-03-15 02:20:17 PM  

Fireproof: fluffy_pope: FirstNationalBastard: EdwardTellerhands: I thought his most famous unfinished project was Don Quixote.

You could also count the Magnificent Ambersons, since it was taken away by RKO and hacked up.

Except there was enough footage there to turn into a movie. Unlike, say, Arkadin, which seemed to have a reel or two missing.

The deal with Magnificent Ambersons is that he had a cut of it done, then the studio stepped in and changed it to a happy ending (see post-Kane studio meddling stuff upthread), and cut out about 45 additional minutes. The resulting movie is pretty well liked, but Wells himself said that the original version was even better than Kane. All the cut scenes have been tossed, but there was an uncut copy flown down to Brazil that could conceivably still exist. I did a Cracked article on lost stuff a few years ago that got into this.

/I claim no responsibility for the Mexican war movie and Chinese philosopher bits


I'd wager the film wound up in the hands of a collector who masturbated nightly about the fact that he was the only one who had an uncut copy of Ambersons, never let it escape back into the world, then he died and it was burned in a huge fire because his family or inheritors didn't give two shiats about some musty old can of film.

Collector/hoarders should be shot.
 
2017-03-15 03:02:08 PM  
Fireproof: FirstNationalBastard:
 A bit off-topic, but have you two seen The Power and the Glory? I'm not sure the Preston Sturges script is all that similar to Kane's, but Welles allegedly was prickly about the supposed parallels.
 
2017-03-15 03:46:37 PM  
I am pretty sure that Nostradamus predicted this.
 
2017-03-15 05:19:49 PM  

stonelotus: Did he ever finish that Paul Masson commercial?

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nvxwf1jxdaM - 480x360]

Holy Crap
 
2017-03-15 05:33:21 PM  

stonelotus: Did he ever finish that Paul Masson commercial?

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nvxwf1jxdaM - 480x360]


Just to show that they were able to get a commercial out of it eventually:

 
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