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(SanDiego UnionTribune)   Study shows that San Diego is the second worst market for renters. Who's on first?   ( sandiegouniontribune.com) divider line
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2017-03-14 04:17:45 PM  
Manhattan's $3,497 rent

That's more that 4 times my mortgage payment, and I've got a 3-bedroom, 2-bath house with a garage and a decent-sized backyard in a not-bad area of Las Vegas. But you New Yawkers keep telling me how awesome NYC is. Greatest city on Earth, indeed. LOL
 
2017-03-14 04:55:37 PM  
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2017-03-14 04:57:10 PM  
The problem with renting in Florida is air b&b.  All the housing that was zoned for working class people are now full of farking tourist.  Even the farking trailer parks are full of farking tourist now.  Meanwhile the hotels sit empty, and everyone is being forced onto part time, and our farking city councils will not farking do anything about it, because it is the free market, and the 11th commandment is apearently, thou shall not prevent the free market from screwing over people.
 
2017-03-14 05:03:12 PM  
The rent is too damn high!
 
2017-03-14 05:20:40 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Manhattan's $3,497 rent

That's more that 4 times my mortgage payment, and I've got a 3-bedroom, 2-bath house with a garage and a decent-sized backyard in a not-bad area of Las Vegas. But you New Yawkers keep telling me how awesome NYC is. Greatest city on Earth, indeed. LOL


Likewise, but I've got a 4 bedroom, 3.5 bath house on 4.5 acres on a lake in north-central oklahoma where we can grow things besides cacti.
 
2017-03-14 05:22:17 PM  
[begin creepy narrator voice]

And next come the "I wouldn't want to live there" comments'
 
2017-03-14 05:23:20 PM  

SansNeural: Sin_City_Superhero: Manhattan's $3,497 rent

That's more that 4 times my mortgage payment, and I've got a 3-bedroom, 2-bath house with a garage and a decent-sized backyard in a not-bad area of Las Vegas. But you New Yawkers keep telling me how awesome NYC is. Greatest city on Earth, indeed. LOL

Likewise, but I've got a 4 bedroom, 3.5 bath house on 4.5 acres on a lake in north-central oklahoma where we can grow things besides cacti.


Are you guys one-upping each other with increasingly worse places to live? Yikes.
 
2017-03-14 05:24:01 PM  

SansNeural: [begin creepy narrator voice]

And next come the "I wouldn't want to live there" comments'


Dammit, guilty as charged. LOL.

But yeah, it's Oklahoma, and I'm not white.
 
2017-03-14 05:25:22 PM  
FTA: "people want to live in San Diego and are finding jobs, but the housing supply simply isn't keeping up. "As a result, rents are rising faster than in other markets," Chang said."

Damned supply and demand.
 
2017-03-14 05:27:57 PM  
I was under the impression they did way too much building in Miami in the last 10 years, and if anything, it would be difficult to fill those units up.

I had a studio apt on South Beach, 3 blocks from the ocean in the late 90's, for $500 a month.  I can't imagine that same unit would be less than $1500 today.
 
2017-03-14 05:39:46 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: That's more that 4 times my mortgage payment, and I've got a 3-bedroom, 2-bath house with a garage and a decent-sized backyard in a not-bad area of Las Vegas. But you New Yawkers keep telling me how awesome NYC is. Greatest city on Earth, indeed. LOL


Manhattan is to NYC as the strip is to Las Vegas.

IE, city centers tend to be the worst cost per SQFT within a county. Prices dropping rapidly outside of that.

// EX. 15 years ago, 1000 square foot condos in downtown San Diego were going for $600+ ... but 5-10 miles from downtown, you could get a condo in a nice enough area for $150k (and 5-10 miles from downtown in a different direction, you could get a condo in the ghetto for $70k.

// can you even BUY a house on the strip?
 
2017-03-14 05:48:26 PM  

winedrinkingman: The problem with renting in Florida is air b&b.  All the housing that was zoned for working class people are now full of farking tourist.  Even the farking trailer parks are full of farking tourist now.  Meanwhile the hotels sit empty, and everyone is being forced onto part time, and our farking city councils will not farking do anything about it, because it is the free market, and the 11th commandment is apearently, thou shall not prevent the free market from screwing over people.


Seems there is a growing backlash against AirBnB with cities passing laws forbidding homes in residential areas being used as hotels/motels/hostels.

Not surprisingly the anti-AirBnB campaign is being sponsored by the hotel industry. They've been running things on Facebook talking about how AirBnB is destroying neighborhoods and raising the cost of living.
 
2017-03-14 05:52:24 PM  
The weather in San Diego is terrific.
Residents can wear shorts and t-shirts year round.

/ If you want.
// And it's far enough from LA to not be associated with it.
 
2017-03-14 06:04:23 PM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: The weather in San Diego is terrific.
Residents can wear shorts and t-shirts year round.

/ If you want.
// And it's far enough from LA to not be associated with it.


"Los Angeles is like San Diego's older, uglier sister that has herpes."
Justin Halpern, Sh*t My Dad Says
 
2017-03-14 06:06:04 PM  

JulieAzel626: winedrinkingman: The problem with renting in Florida is air b&b.  All the housing that was zoned for working class people are now full of farking tourist.  Even the farking trailer parks are full of farking tourist now.  Meanwhile the hotels sit empty, and everyone is being forced onto part time, and our farking city councils will not farking do anything about it, because it is the free market, and the 11th commandment is apearently, thou shall not prevent the free market from screwing over people.

Seems there is a growing backlash against AirBnB with cities passing laws forbidding homes in residential areas being used as hotels/motels/hostels.

Not surprisingly the anti-AirBnB campaign is being sponsored by the hotel industry. They've been running things on Facebook talking about how AirBnB is destroying neighborhoods and raising the cost of living.


As a homeowner I'm cool with laws against turning the house next door into an AirBnB.  The house two doors down that rents by the freaking room is bad enough.
 
2017-03-14 06:09:24 PM  
So I search AirBnB and there are 3 joints within a 5 minutes walk of my house.  Greaaaat.
 
2017-03-14 06:12:09 PM  

Arbitrator: SansNeural: [begin creepy narrator voice]

And next come the "I wouldn't want to live there" comments'

Dammit, guilty as charged. LOL.

But yeah, it's Oklahoma, and I'm not white.


Nah, it's OK.  Some of my best friends are Native American!

/geese
//swans
///ducks
 
2017-03-14 06:13:36 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: As a homeowner I'm cool with laws against turning the house next door into an AirBnB. The house two doors down that rents by the freaking room is bad enough.


My old hood had a problem with mini-dorms.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sd-me-mini-dorm-201​6​1115-story.html

// homeowners would pave over their front lawns to make more parking. Then rent the house to college kids (usually ended up being two people per room, so a 3BR house would have six ~adults~ living in it, with a requisite number of vehicles.).
 
2017-03-14 06:18:43 PM  

lordargent: Sin_City_Superhero: That's more that 4 times my mortgage payment, and I've got a 3-bedroom, 2-bath house with a garage and a decent-sized backyard in a not-bad area of Las Vegas. But you New Yawkers keep telling me how awesome NYC is. Greatest city on Earth, indeed. LOL

Manhattan is to NYC as the strip is to Las Vegas.

IE, city centers tend to be the worst cost per SQFT within a county. Prices dropping rapidly outside of that.

// EX. 15 years ago, 1000 square foot condos in downtown San Diego were going for $600+ ... but 5-10 miles from downtown, you could get a condo in a nice enough area for $150k (and 5-10 miles from downtown in a different direction, you could get a condo in the ghetto for $70k.

// can you even BUY a house on the strip?


Condos, but not a houae.
 
2017-03-14 06:19:29 PM  

VogonPoet: SloppyFrenchKisser: The weather in San Diego is terrific.
Residents can wear shorts and t-shirts year round.

/ If you want.
// And it's far enough from LA to not be associated with it.

"Los Angeles is like San Diego's older, uglier sister that has herpes."
― Justin Halpern, Sh*t My Dad Says


Regarding Angelenos:
"Secretly, a lot of us dream about getting married, having kids and moving to San Diego. But we would rather sell our future children on the black market than move to Orange County."
-Zaron Burnett
 
2017-03-14 06:43:38 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: So I search AirBnB and there are 3 joints within a 5 minutes walk of my house.  Greaaaat.


If you really want to know why rents in certain places are insane, this is your culprit.
 
2017-03-14 06:50:54 PM  
I own a house in San Diego that I'm getting ready to rent out so I'm getting a kick.
 
2017-03-14 06:53:32 PM  

sirrerun: NotThatGuyAgain: So I search AirBnB and there are 3 joints within a 5 minutes walk of my house.  Greaaaat.

If you really want to know why rents in certain places are insane, this is your culprit.


NotThatGuyAgain: So I search AirBnB and there are 3 joints within a 5 minutes walk of my house.  Greaaaat.


The number of units going to AirBnB is an extremely small section of the market.  If rents are high it means there isn't enough units in the area.  And San Diego is openly hostile to anyone building anything.  Which not only drives up rental costs but also housing costs.

/not that I'm complaining
 
2017-03-14 06:56:51 PM  

Herbie555: VogonPoet: SloppyFrenchKisser: The weather in San Diego is terrific.
Residents can wear shorts and t-shirts year round.

/ If you want.
// And it's far enough from LA to not be associated with it.

"Los Angeles is like San Diego's older, uglier sister that has herpes."
― Justin Halpern, Sh*t My Dad Says

Regarding Angelenos:
"Secretly, a lot of us dream about getting married, having kids and moving to San Diego. But we would rather sell our future children on the black market than move to Orange County."
-Zaron Burnett


I read that wrong the first time, then realized there were two distinct thoughts there.
 
2017-03-14 07:12:07 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Condos, but not a houae.


I was trying to show that there is a wide variety of prices from one hood to another. Because people tend to look at the most expensive zip codes in a county and say 'why would anyone live in (county) with those prices'.

Houses tend to follow the same progression (near the ocean or near downtown == more money). If you want house prices, basically double the condo prices, or go back 15 more years :D

Here's what rental prices look like (everything from $400/room per month to $3000/room per month) ... note that the expensive stuff is all near the coast.

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Vs home sale prices, everything from 75k out in the boonies up to 1.2 million (and way more) near the coast.

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Or price per SQFT

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// and the entire data set/map if you want to play around.
 
2017-03-14 07:34:13 PM  
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2017-03-14 07:42:25 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Manhattan's $3,497 rent

That's more that 4 times my mortgage payment, and I've got a 3-bedroom, 2-bath house with a garage and a decent-sized backyard in a not-bad area of Las Vegas. But you New Yawkers keep telling me how awesome NYC is. Greatest city on Earth, indeed. LOL


Insanely high real estate values would seem to support the claim that it's a great place to be, not dismiss it.
 
2017-03-14 08:46:07 PM  
Central Orange County, Ca
1 bed, 1 bath
$1,945/month
 
2017-03-14 09:08:57 PM  

Arbitrator: SansNeural: [begin creepy narrator voice]

And next come the "I wouldn't want to live there" comments'

Dammit, guilty as charged. LOL.

But yeah, it's Oklahoma, and I'm not white.


RUN
 
2017-03-14 09:34:51 PM  
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I don't know....
//Third Base...
 
2017-03-14 10:20:31 PM  
It's a terrible place to rent anything but a great place to buy something.
 
2017-03-14 11:42:09 PM  
I'm in the mountains three hours north of san diego, and this being a resort community, airbnb and vrbo do a lot of business up here- if you cant be at your place, shouldn't it be your right to rent it out?  Main issues are loud parties and overstuffing the houses. The city stepped in and instead of banning them, they pretty strictly regulate those types of rentals. There was a lot of opposition to the idea of regulation until it was gotten across that this is for the protection of the owners and neighbors, not the renters. By careful selection of guests and doing an in-person checkin, we avoid 99.5 percent of neighbor type problems. Main complaints this winter were" it's snowing, whadda we do?!" And "the power's out- can you come turn it in for us?"- when power is out all over. And "service dogs" that bark at all hours...
 
2017-03-15 12:31:32 AM  

xooxox: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I don't know....
//Third Base...


Go Wolves!
 
2017-03-15 01:01:53 AM  

sirrerun: NotThatGuyAgain: So I search AirBnB and there are 3 joints within a 5 minutes walk of my house.  Greaaaat.

If you really want to know why rents in certain places are insane, this is your culprit.


Not in Miami. The problem is that the housing, like the economy, has no middle class. You have very expensive condos (Biscayne, the Grove, South Beach) and you have houses/apartments in very poor neighborhoods like Overtown or Little Haiti. Nothing in between.
 
2017-03-15 01:45:05 AM  
Pretty much anywhere in the DC metro area.

I pay a little over $1720 a month for an 850 square foot 1br/1ba--in southern Fairfax County, Virginia. 15 miles south of DC. Large-ish apartment, but in a development and "residential" area that has 30-year-old infrastructure (the area, including our grocery store, gas station, and strip mall, were largely built in the late 1980s and not updated since) and no nightlife.

In DC proper it's even more insane. Despite what WalletHub and Zillow might say, buying a decent property in this area is pretty much out of reach for almost everybody calling themselves "middle class" (I make almost six figures with COLA and probably won't be able to save enough money for a down payment before I'm 40).
 
2017-03-15 04:39:59 AM  

Arbitrator: SansNeural: Sin_City_Superhero: Manhattan's $3,497 rent

That's more that 4 times my mortgage payment, and I've got a 3-bedroom, 2-bath house with a garage and a decent-sized backyard in a not-bad area of Las Vegas. But you New Yawkers keep telling me how awesome NYC is. Greatest city on Earth, indeed. LOL

Likewise, but I've got a 4 bedroom, 3.5 bath house on 4.5 acres on a lake in north-central oklahoma where we can grow things besides cacti.

Are you guys one-upping each other with increasingly worse places to live? Yikes.


No shiat. Vegas is a hellhole with water problems and not a place you want to spend more than a week and Oklahoma is tornado alley and vast fields of nothingness.
 
2017-03-15 07:24:20 AM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: Arbitrator: SansNeural: Sin_City_Superhero: Manhattan's $3,497 rent

That's more that 4 times my mortgage payment, and I've got a 3-bedroom, 2-bath house with a garage and a decent-sized backyard in a not-bad area of Las Vegas. But you New Yawkers keep telling me how awesome NYC is. Greatest city on Earth, indeed. LOL

Likewise, but I've got a 4 bedroom, 3.5 bath house on 4.5 acres on a lake in north-central oklahoma where we can grow things besides cacti.

Are you guys one-upping each other with increasingly worse places to live? Yikes.

No shiat. Vegas is a hellhole with water problems and not a place you want to spend more than a week and Oklahoma is tornado alley and vast fields of nothingness.


Counterpoint:  Las Vegas is a beautiful city full of wonderful people,  and there's no place on Earth I'd rather live.
 
2017-03-15 07:44:06 AM  
Empirical evidence shows that the bar to get a Florida story greenlit has fallen to new lows and is more compulsive obsessive than funny anymore.
 
2017-03-15 08:36:54 AM  

macdaddy357: The rent is too damn high!


it's all that "Free market competition" propaganda.
 
2017-03-15 03:02:21 PM  
FTFA: Lloyd Rochambeau, of San Marcos, in a recent letter to the editor protesting rising rents. "Of course, rent control could solve the problem and very well may be the only solution short of a revolution."

Except for Costa-Hawkins, you bloody idiot. If you insist on speaking out on a subject, at least farking know something about it. New rent control is now illegal in California, thanks to the stupid shiats you voted into office.

Revolution? You are a moron. If you can't be bothered to keep a check on the taints you send to the statehouse what use would you be in a revolution?
 
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