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(The Daily Beast)   "Writing is the answer that evolution has devised for the problem of human loneliness." Which is why shy people are drawn to it, and are the best writers   ( thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2017-03-14 06:23:31 AM  
I can't cover for Nietzsche or Hemingway because my specialty was Hispanic Literature. But Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz was the first (published) feminist in the Americas through her poetry. And she was subtle about it. It  took white guys a long time to go, "Wait a minute. What the..."

There's a Netflix series about her on my "to watch" list, but I need to be in the right head space. I don't want distractions.
 
2017-03-14 07:56:16 AM  
"      So lonely.
 
2017-03-14 07:58:54 AM  
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2017-03-14 08:10:54 AM  
It makes sense: it's the least performative of the arts, unless you just want to watch someone write something on a piece of paper, curse, cross out what they just wrote, and write something else.  You often do have to isolate yourself to do any serious writing.
 
2017-03-14 08:13:12 AM  
Because it's a quiet, singular activity.

Two people can't write together.

Only someone who wants to make the commitment to being non-social for months can produce a novel.
 
2017-03-14 08:37:38 AM  

Brakebills Alumni Office: Because it's a quiet, singular activity.

Two people can't write together.

Only someone who wants to make the commitment to being non-social for months can produce a novel.


Two people do write together.  Screen writers come to mind.  I'll need more coffee to think of any co-written novel, though.
 
2017-03-14 08:42:55 AM  
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Oh, I dunno. Shy people may be writers, but you also get the real extroverts there, ya know. Now take Henry Miller, there. His books were called pornography, they were banned. Because he led a raunchy life of nonstop debauchery. Was he lonely? Of course not.

Of course, in "Tropic of Cancer," he wrote, "I need to be alone. I need to ponder my shame and despair in seclusion..." But shy? Well... I dunno. Didn't seem like a shy person, ya know.
 
2017-03-14 08:50:45 AM  

pissnmoan: Brakebills Alumni Office: Because it's a quiet, singular activity.

Two people can't write together.

Only someone who wants to make the commitment to being non-social for months can produce a novel.

Two people do write together.  Screen writers come to mind.  I'll need more coffee to think of any co-written novel, though.


C [kbooks are also frequently co-written, can't think of any novels though
 
2017-03-14 08:52:15 AM  
I can understand it. I'm in the design phase for a new piece of software that will end up in the 300,000 SLOC range.

BTW, using words or lines of code or Effective Lines of Code as a metric is rarely useful and usually wrong.
 
2017-03-14 08:53:48 AM  

pissnmoan: Brakebills Alumni Office: Because it's a quiet, singular activity.

Two people can't write together.

Only someone who wants to make the commitment to being non-social for months can produce a novel.

Two people do write together.  Screen writers come to mind.  I'll need more coffee to think of any co-written novel, though.


Oh, they exist. But there's usually a strict division of labor. "You do these scenes, I'll do these."

No one's sitting around a conference table writing a novel in committee.

for example:
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Two guys.

tinfoil hat: the extent to which George R.R. Martin may also be involved, or even be one of the two guys, is a matter of some debate
 
2017-03-14 10:50:25 AM  

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Oh, I dunno. Shy people may be writers, but you also get the real extroverts there, ya know. Now take Henry Miller, there. His books were called pornography, they were banned. Because he led a raunchy life of nonstop debauchery. Was he lonely? Of course not.

Of course, in "Tropic of Cancer," he wrote, "I need to be alone. I need to ponder my shame and despair in seclusion..." But shy? Well... I dunno. Didn't seem like a shy person, ya know.


Henry Miller's extroverted self was a literary fiction. He was the guy who stayed behind to do the dishes while the others went off to the orgy.
 
2017-03-14 11:04:36 AM  

chitownmike: pissnmoan: Brakebills Alumni Office: Because it's a quiet, singular activity.

Two people can't write together.

Only someone who wants to make the commitment to being non-social for months can produce a novel.

Two people do write together.  Screen writers come to mind.  I'll need more coffee to think of any co-written novel, though.

C [kbooks are also frequently co-written, can't think of any novels though


Mysteries are often co-written. "Ellery Queen" is the pseudonym for Frederic Dannay, and Emanuel Benjamin Lepofsky. "Claud Izner" is Liliane Korb and Laurence Lefèvre. Maj Stowall and Per Wahloo wrote several crime novels in the Martin Beck series. Caroline and Charles Todd (mother and son) write together.  Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child write (or wrote) cheesy thrillers together.

The great comic Irish novels of Martin Ross were the production of two women Edith Somerville and Violet Florence Martin,

 I don't know if any of them wrote in the same room together, but co-written novels aren't unheard of.

In the days of the studio dominance in Hollywood, screenwriters were often thrown together to write in the same room like chickens laying eggs.  Song writers often write in the same room together.
 
2017-03-14 11:09:26 AM  

pissnmoan: Brakebills Alumni Office: Because it's a quiet, singular activity.

Two people can't write together.

Only someone who wants to make the commitment to being non-social for months can produce a novel.

Two people do write together.  Screen writers come to mind.  I'll need more coffee to think of any co-written novel, though.


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2017-03-14 11:30:28 AM  
"Every writer is a frustrated actor who recites his lines in the hidden auditorium of his skull." ― Rod Serling

There are just as many extroverts writers as introverts.  Off the top of my head, these authors are nowhere near being shy:  Isaac Asimov, David Weber, Ramsey Campell, Keith R. A. DeCandido, Peter David, Larry Niven, Esther Friesner, Alan Steele, Ryk Spoor, Joel Rosenberg, Darrel Schweitzer, Neil Gaiman, Terry Pratchett, Gardner Dozois, Samuel R. Delaney, Jack Dann, Harlan Ellison, George R.R. Martin, Tim Powers, and many others.

As for writing teams, there's Ellery Queen, Eando Binder (brothers Earl and Otto, though Earl eventually dropped out), Steve Miller and Sharon Lee, Debra Doyle and Jim Macdonald, and Tracy Hickman and Margaret Wise.  This doesn't include one-offs like Harlan Ellison's "Partners in Wonder" series.  I know I personally could never work with a collaborator, but there are plenty of cases where the two authors involved complement each other.
 
2017-03-14 12:05:19 PM  

yakmans_dad: Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child write (or wrote) cheesy thrillers together

I will have you to shut your whore mouth where Preston and Child are concerned. I say "good day" to you, sir, good day!

 
2017-03-14 12:17:09 PM  

tamsnod27: yakmans_dad: Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child write (or wrote) cheesy thrillers together

I will have you to shut your whore mouth where Preston and Child are concerned. I say "good day" to you, sir, good day!


So, we can mark you down as "undecided" then?
 
2017-03-14 01:41:24 PM  
Indeed, as the famous writer Ignatius J. Reilly once said, "I mingle with my peers or no one, and since I have no peers, I mingle with no one."
 
2017-03-14 01:47:17 PM  
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