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(Deadspin)   Subby learned two things about Norm MacDonald yesterday: (1) He owns a professional football team, (2) he's a way better announcer than Joe Buck   ( deadspin.com) divider line
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2017-02-17 10:15:29 AM  
Well, a given value of professional.
 
2017-02-17 11:23:37 AM  
Which once again proves my theory: Germans love David Hasselhoff.
 
2017-02-17 11:24:31 AM  
One of these requires some effort to do.

Hint: it isn't the second one.
 
2017-02-17 11:27:31 AM  
It looks like a cross between knockoff, third-rate versions of the XFL and the Arena Football League

The AFL looks like a 3rd rate version of the AFL these days. ALL FOUR REMAINING TEAMS.
 
2017-02-17 11:27:39 AM  
He also coined the term "fake news" when he was on Weekend Update.
 
2017-02-17 11:29:56 AM  
Who else is a better announcer than Joe Buck? You guessed it -- Frank Stallone.
 
2017-02-17 11:40:55 AM  
That's just a swirling vortex of suck.
 
2017-02-17 11:43:14 AM  

cefm: That's just a swirling vortex of suck.


Swirling Vortex of Awesome is the name of my SNL-parody parody troupe
 
2017-02-17 11:50:55 AM  

StopDaddy: It looks like a cross between knockoff, third-rate versions of the XFL and the Arena Football League

The AFL looks like a 3rd rate version of the AFL these days. ALL FOUR REMAINING TEAMS.


Five, they added Baltimore.

Though it's owned by the same guy that owns the Washington team, so there's only four owners.
 
2017-02-17 11:59:50 AM  

Mugato: He also coined the term "fake news" when he was on Weekend Update.


He also created the Celebrity Jeopardy sketches (though he freely admits he was highly inspired by the "Half Wits" sketch on SCTV.)

I mean, that alone makes him OK with me.
 
2017-02-17 12:05:47 PM  

IAmRight: StopDaddy: It looks like a cross between knockoff, third-rate versions of the XFL and the Arena Football League

The AFL looks like a 3rd rate version of the AFL these days. ALL FOUR REMAINING TEAMS.

Five, they added Baltimore.

Though it's owned by the same guy that owns the Washington team, so there's only four owners.


Loved the AFL at their peak. I taunt them now, but I'm sad while doing so. :(
 
2017-02-17 12:06:26 PM  
Every football season we have discussions about whether the best college team would beat the worst NFL team. (Correct answer: no, and stop asking stupid questions.)

Watching a few minutes of this game makes me wonder how badly a middling Division I team would curbstomp either of these two teams, with the proper lineup and rule adjustments.
 
2017-02-17 12:15:02 PM  
To the second point:
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2017-02-17 12:44:10 PM  
he really knows how to throw money away
 
2017-02-17 12:46:06 PM  
people in comas are better announcers than joe buck
 
2017-02-17 12:50:37 PM  
Did subby ever see his Espy's hosting performance? Because that was a thing of magnificence.
 
2017-02-17 12:52:40 PM  

StopDaddy: IAmRight: StopDaddy: It looks like a cross between knockoff, third-rate versions of the XFL and the Arena Football League

The AFL looks like a 3rd rate version of the AFL these days. ALL FOUR REMAINING TEAMS.

Five, they added Baltimore.

Though it's owned by the same guy that owns the Washington team, so there's only four owners.

Loved the AFL at their peak. I taunt them now, but I'm sad while doing so. :(


They're still enjoyable and the players are very talented, but it's not marketed well and the NFL does a great job of attempting to cripple all other football leagues by constantly marketing their league as "football."

No, NFL, "football" is not back when your season starts. There's the AFL, CFL, and indoor leagues. There's college ball, too.

Every other league has better, fairer, more interesting rules, too.

Sigh.

/worked in the league from 2010-11 and 2013-14.
 
2017-02-17 01:43:43 PM  
They should give points if you hit the drone with the ball, two points if you tackle the drone.
 
2017-02-17 01:44:56 PM  

Kuta: They should give points if you hit the drone with the ball, two points if you tackle the drone.


Goodell's involved with this league too?
 
2017-02-17 02:09:05 PM  

StopDaddy: It looks like a cross between knockoff, third-rate versions of the XFL and the Arena Football League

The AFL looks like a 3rd rate version of the AFL these days. ALL FOUR REMAINING TEAMS.


Yeah, even the Arizona Rattlers; one of the most successful teams in that league; has jumped ship for the Indoor Football League. The AFL is effectively a zombie league now: it's dead, but it doesn't know it.
 
2017-02-17 02:15:40 PM  

desertgeek: StopDaddy: It looks like a cross between knockoff, third-rate versions of the XFL and the Arena Football League

The AFL looks like a 3rd rate version of the AFL these days. ALL FOUR REMAINING TEAMS.

Yeah, even the Arizona Rattlers; one of the most successful teams in that league; has jumped ship for the Indoor Football League. The AFL is effectively a zombie league now: it's dead, but it doesn't know it.


I think the Tampa Bay Storm is gone too, I hear? But I think they folded a coupe years ago.

Feeling nostalgic now for late 90's AFL. That was the most entertaining times. Hot tubs, beach balls, goofy fans encouraged to be goofy. LOL, I still remember those TB Storm fans with the hypnotic whirlygig in the front row trying to distract opposing receivers. A league designed to be fun, before NFL owners came in and stripped the entertainment part. Ah well, entropy and all that.
 
2017-02-17 02:49:47 PM  
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2017-02-17 02:51:09 PM  

desertgeek: StopDaddy: It looks like a cross between knockoff, third-rate versions of the XFL and the Arena Football League

The AFL looks like a 3rd rate version of the AFL these days. ALL FOUR REMAINING TEAMS.

Yeah, even the Arizona Rattlers; one of the most successful teams in that league; has jumped ship for the Indoor Football League. The AFL is effectively a zombie league now: it's dead, but it doesn't know it.


Co-founder of ArenaFan.com here, so, let me lay it out for you.....

First off, this team is in the IFL, which most would say is the second highest "league" of Arena/Indoor football after the AFL.  But, it isn't the Arena Football League, and isn't associated with them.

IMO, this game was ridiculous.   Beyond the whole "Fanchise" thing going on where fans are calling the plays in an app.    The dozen or more fans storming the field after the first TD... that has to be the team telling some people in the first row to do that right?   I mean, ok, one drunk guy who decides to jump out there, but, that many people going "I certainly won't be thrown out of this game if I jump out onto the field!", really?   And, yes, Norm owns this team, but, from what I can gather, he was just "given" his share, so, no skin off his nose, take his "fandom" for what it is.

A short primer on the last 15 years of the AFL:
2003-2008:  AFL gets on NBC for 4 years, loses NBC, goes back to ESPN.
2009: After losing NBC, and not getting millions in expansion team revenues, the bottom falls out financially in the league as they are still paying players based on revenues with NBC ratings and not the ESPN2 ratings which are about 1/2-1/3 of NBC's.  The league's owners shut down the league.
2010: One of the old founders of the AFL (Jerry Kurz) buys back up the league with a bunch of other "af2" owners (really minor league, sketchy owners... vs. the NFL-level and other owners they had in the 2000s).
2010-15: Kurz basically drives the league into the ground with bad decisions on expansion teams, bad ownership groups, etc.
2015: Scott Butera (former Casino executive) is brought on to be the league Commissioner, by effectively by the only 2 "real" owners in the league left: Cleveland owned by the Cavs ownership, and Tampa owned by the Lightning ownership.
2017: After excising all the other "lesser" ownership groups, the league is now left with Cleveland, Tampa, Philly (owned by an executive group & Ron Jawarski), and new teams D.C. and Baltimore owned by Wiz/Caps owner Ted Leonsis.

So, yes, the AFL is down to 5 teams, and either one of two things are going to happen.... Leonsis & the Cav's Gilbert will convince a bunch of other NBA owners (and Lightning maybe gets some NHL owners) to buy into the AFL and run teams.   If they can get 4-6 more NBA/NHL/facility owners and get the league back to 10-12 teams, because of their NBA ties they can probably get a TV deal from Turner or ESPN again, and things grow back.    Or, that doesn't pan out, and the league folds for good.
 
2017-02-17 02:58:20 PM  

StopDaddy: I think the Tampa Bay Storm is gone too, I hear? But I think they folded a coupe years ago.


As I pointed out above, Tampa is one of the teams still there.   Orlando Predators folded this offseason though, and Arizona went to the IFL (they 20 years ago were owned by the Suns, but, now are owned by a "minor" league level owner).  San Jose, another long time team, folded 2 years ago, because their ownership was effectively paying players under the table... that is a big thing the NBA/NHL owners wanted out of the league.
 
2017-02-17 03:15:14 PM  
Damn, no teams in the Northeast.
 
2017-02-17 05:40:09 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: he really knows how to throw money away


My favorite joke was when he said he didn't have a lot of money, so he figured he'd try to buy a sports team. Then he admits if it wasn't for sports he'd probably have a lot of money.
 
2017-02-17 10:22:07 PM  

dletter: A short primer on the last 15 years of the AFL:
2003-2008:  AFL gets on NBC for 4 years, loses NBC, goes back to ESPN.
2009: After losing NBC, and not getting millions in expansion team revenues, the bottom falls out financially in the league as they are still paying players based on revenues with NBC ratings and not the ESPN2 ratings which are about 1/2-1/3 of NBC's.  The league's owners shut down the league.
2010: One of the old founders of the AFL (Jerry Kurz) buys back up the league with a bunch of other "af2" owners (really minor league, sketchy owners... vs. the NFL-level and other owners they had in the 2000s).
2010-15: Kurz basically drives the league into the ground with bad decisions on expansion teams, bad ownership groups, etc.
2015: Scott Butera (former Casino executive) is brought on to be the league Commissioner, by effectively by the only 2 "real" owners in the league left: Cleveland owned by the Cavs ownership, and Tampa owned by the Lightning ownership.
2017: After excising all the other "lesser" ownership groups, the league is now left with Cleveland, Tampa, Philly (owned by an executive group & Ron Jawarski), and new teams D.C. and Baltimore owned by Wiz/Caps owner Ted Leonsis.


I'm going to tell you why I think the AFL has been dying for a long time and it goes back to that NBC deal. IIRC, the NBC deal required the AFL to move from a summer league to a late winter and spring league. So instead of being a place to go for people who wanted a football fix in the summer, it became a league that played when people were kinda tired of football and I think that hurt them in the short and long run.

When it was announced that the Rattlers were switching leagues, that was one of the things that was brought up locally. They used to be cheap summer entertainment, which is always welcome when it's 110 outside. Now; they compete with baseball spring training and then the start of the season, the NBA and NHL and they play when it's nice outside. There's just too much going on to compete with.
 
2017-02-17 11:26:41 PM  

desertgeek: dletter: A short primer on the last 15 years of the AFL:
2003-2008:  AFL gets on NBC for 4 years, loses NBC, goes back to ESPN.
2009: After losing NBC, and not getting millions in expansion team revenues, the bottom falls out financially in the league as they are still paying players based on revenues with NBC ratings and not the ESPN2 ratings which are about 1/2-1/3 of NBC's.  The league's owners shut down the league.
2010: One of the old founders of the AFL (Jerry Kurz) buys back up the league with a bunch of other "af2" owners (really minor league, sketchy owners... vs. the NFL-level and other owners they had in the 2000s).
2010-15: Kurz basically drives the league into the ground with bad decisions on expansion teams, bad ownership groups, etc.
2015: Scott Butera (former Casino executive) is brought on to be the league Commissioner, by effectively by the only 2 "real" owners in the league left: Cleveland owned by the Cavs ownership, and Tampa owned by the Lightning ownership.
2017: After excising all the other "lesser" ownership groups, the league is now left with Cleveland, Tampa, Philly (owned by an executive group & Ron Jawarski), and new teams D.C. and Baltimore owned by Wiz/Caps owner Ted Leonsis.

I'm going to tell you why I think the AFL has been dying for a long time and it goes back to that NBC deal. IIRC, the NBC deal required the AFL to move from a summer league to a late winter and spring league. So instead of being a place to go for people who wanted a football fix in the summer, it became a league that played when people were kinda tired of football and I think that hurt them in the short and long run.


You might be right, but their thought was probably to satiate that withdrawal from football. Also it's indoors which can be played during the winter.
 
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