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2004-05-08 01:21:43 PM  
2004-05-08 11:50:13 AM theflyingdutchman


Can't we call for a writ of "boys will be boys"?

I loathe that saying. I've heard it used by a coach who said it when excusing one of his player from punishment for sexually harassing another student.

Of course, I didn't let the bastard get away with it and gave him a black eye.

/wasn't charged because no one likes to admit that a girl kicked their ass.
2004-05-08 01:24:24 PM  
Of course I did. I've seen too many abuses by them. There are exceptions, but overall I think that most cops get in to compensate for some insecurity, not to serve the community and catch DANGEROUS PEOPLE. Those kids were charged with burglary. They were TRESSPASSING. That is a misdeameanor. The charge statement was signed by a security officer. Another asshat that wasn't even smart enought to be a cop. The administration said that they did not intend to press charges.
2004-05-08 01:26:36 PM  

Bitter much? I had my house TP'd twice in one week by three guys who felt that the way into a girl's heart was by trashing the oustide of my house and dousing my lawn with torn newspaper. All I had to do to get them to stop was point out that I knew where all three of them lived and I saw no problem with ripping their throats out. Problem solved.
2004-05-08 01:27:11 PM  
every year across the nation there are probably about 4,000 school toilet paperings...what ever happened to laughing and letting the kids let off some steam?

our school actually had a big rock, and sometimes the local garage would donate a car that they would tow up onto the school grounds where kids could spray paint it and throw crap at it.

assinine indeed
2004-05-08 01:28:55 PM  

Are you a marine in Iraq?

I'm outta here. I gotta get some airtime before I blow a gasket.
2004-05-08 01:31:26 PM  
This is my immitation of most of you hypocritical bastards:

"but they're WHITE! bah, let them get away with everything. Why ruin their lives with criminal charges over something that can be fixed! Now if they where brown or black kids, I'd say get them while their young and throw them in a cell, better yet, shoot them in the back and in the face while they try to run away! That'll teach them to comply with the LAW."
2004-05-08 01:32:06 PM  
Meh. I'm SOOOO glad I'm not a kid today. Ever since Columbine, kids can't do the things kids do without getting charged with felonies as adults. Keying a car = >$500 damage = felony? Puh-leeze. And it got worse since 9/11, now playing with M-80s = terrorism + possession of WMDs? WTF?

I did stupid shiat when I was a kid. Yes, I realize I was a complete farktard for messing with other people's stuff. I was chased by irate property owners on several occasions. Yes, I deserved to get my ass kicked. And lemme tell ya, when the cops caught up w/ me and knocked on my parents door, it put an end to my shenanigans real damn quick. I did some rather serious things, but no charges. I was scared shiatless, and I swore up and down that I'd never do any of that stupid crap again. And I didn't. I moved on to lesser crimes, like underage drinking and smoking weed. And all was well.

When kids do stupid shiat, they need a parental belt to the ass, not a federal pounding in the ass.
2004-05-08 01:36:58 PM  
Wow, sk0undrel, it's good to know that you think most of us are racist batards. Too bad most of us don't give a shiat if you are white, black, or purple.

2004-05-08 01:40:28 PM  
Well is wasn't charged with a felony, but a bunch of seniors here got suspended and banned from commencement (including the farking valedictorian) for staging a raid on the cafeteria and stealing the apple crisp. Trouble is, now they've maxxed out their punishment, and these guys have a whole batch of other pranks up their sleeves. May should be fun...
2004-05-08 01:44:01 PM  
Pyr0, I'm all for harmless pranks (and I'd say the TP was harmless, as long as you make the perpetrators clean it up). But I don't even drive a nice car and I'd be straight pissed if somebody keyed it. That's not a prank, that's permanent vandalism that's going to cost a significant chunk of money to fix.
2004-05-08 01:44:37 PM  
Need to head over to Spain and grab some old wracks, iron maidens, thumb scres, etc... bring em back here and have them ready for when we decide a felony just isn't enough to punish rediculousness.

/watching a torture documentary on history channel
2004-05-08 01:47:08 PM  
sk0undrel: I'm curious, what thread are you reading?
2004-05-08 01:56:26 PM  

I agree totally. You just don't mess with a man's car. :)
But the reasoning that $500 = felony vandalism: keying a car is easily $500, especially if they bear down hard enough to crease the metal. Do they deserve to be charged with a felony and have their life irreparably ruined?

I'm not saying they should get off scot-free. But charging them the same as you'd charge a man for murder, rape, armed robbery, assault, etc. is fscking asinine.
2004-05-08 01:57:34 PM  
2004-05-08 12:14:24 PM SolidChaos


In my high school one of the guys who ran for President was named Orefice. Campaign motto: "There's a little Orefice in all of us."

That's clever. I didn't really pay attention to my student council presidential campaigns, I always ended up just voted for the cute girls. *shrug*
2004-05-08 01:59:17 PM  
WHAT? FIFTEEN police cars show up for a toilet paper prank? I don't see how those poor police in Hillsboro will get much respect from the citizens after this. I mean, how seriously will anyone take them for having so many show up to such silly pranks and pretending it's something important? That does not reflect well on the police.
2004-05-08 02:00:08 PM  
Pyr0, good point. Charge 'em with a misdemeanor and have them pay to get it fixed, and I'll be happy.

Thinking about this has made me realize I've never TPed a house or egged anybody or keyed a car. What kind of youth did I lead?! *sobs*
2004-05-08 02:01:07 PM  
So if I kill someone, I can get out of killing people? Cool!

/not serious

Cue "Alice's Restaurant"
2004-05-08 02:07:43 PM  
Uhhh...don't assault me for askin' Assh, but have you ever thought of getting some counseling or your testosterone levels checked? Punching people in the face and throat-ripping fantasies may indicate a serious emotional problem.
2004-05-08 02:11:37 PM  
Hillsboro High School is just down the street from me. I should drive and check it out.
2004-05-08 02:15:32 PM  
To all those who critized me: it has nothing to do with not liking kids, or not understanding a little high school fun.

This isn't just a little high school pranking. If you think it's all fun and games, maybe I should come over to your house, TP it, throw eggs on it, and write "DeathZero is t3h R0xoR!!!" on your garage door with shaving cream. Let me tell you, it is not fun trying to clean up eggs, shaving cream, and TP strung around the branches of trees and on the roof of your house.

The problem with kids today is that they think these pranks are all fun and games without thinking of how the guy on the receiving end feels. It's not too fun for the guy who has to spend 4 hours on November 1 coming home at 5 PM from a long day of work. So personally, I wish I really COULD get all Dirty Harry on these punks. You can't TP somebody's house with a .44 in your shoulder.
2004-05-08 02:24:19 PM  

Here's something that most people don't seem to realize.

The job description of the police, in most counties/cities, doesn't include the enforcement of laws.

If you take any upper level police administration class, you'll find out that the laws are nothing but tools to allow the police to carry out their three main duties: maintain order, protect life, and protect property.

It is totally up to the cops as to whether they want to arrest a person or not. In this case, I think the cops jumped the gun a bit. In a small town like this, where everyone knows that this is an annual prank, they should've handed the kids over to their parents and let the school deal with them.
2004-05-08 02:25:01 PM  
all i can say is thank god i grew up in the earlier version of america.

i'm really glad my parents had me when they did.

(pouring fertilizer on the football field, so in 3 months the numbers of the class year would constantly grow faster and show taller for the walks. it was cool. now kids would probably get charged with terrorstic somethingorother, covered by the patriot act, if caught with big bags of fertilizer on a school property)

additionally: you can do over 500 dollars worth of damage by kicking a stone, having it bounce off a tree, striking a window. 500 dollars now is nothing compared to what it was when the law was passed.
2004-05-08 02:29:27 PM  

However, while excessive, they were not improperly charged. An authorized employee of the school signed the charge paperwork, and the acts themselves fulfill the elements of the crimes they were charged with.

Ah, so you're falling back to the old "If you have the ability to do something, then you should do it."

Just because you can do something doesn't make it right or proper.

I can go up to a cancer patient and laugh at them and tell them that they're going to die in slow agony.

Am I legally allowed to do it? You bet.

Is it improper? Of course it is.
2004-05-08 02:34:09 PM  

Improper charging implies that the charges filed against them did not fit the act that they committed. For an extreme example, filing rape charges in a murder case. Being as the acts they committed did fit the elements of the crimes they were charged with, the charging is proper. *I* wouldn't have done it, but I'm sure that I have more important things to be worried about than TP.


I have never said that I think that it was right. My full intest was to smack down on an original commenter who said the charging was improper (false charges). As I said, I think it's excessive and I wouldn't do it, but the charges are correct if someone wanted to pursue the matter, which I also thing would be retarded.

Aight, off to work

2004-05-08 02:48:10 PM  
I can understand permanent damage or completely destroying property...but toiletpaper? Give me a break.

And no, I wouldn't go apeshiat if someone TPed my lawn. It's not the end of the world powerwashing for an hour. Hell I'd get a laugh out of it. Maybe if they keyed my car or threw eggs at my house, but TP? Pfff...get a life Hillsboro...
2004-05-08 03:47:49 PM  
DeathZero, you are the grump who yells at kids!
That's why you got nailed.

Ok, everyone. Tonight we TP DeathZero.
Tomorrow we listen to the crying.

It's karma man. For anything shiatty you did as a kid, you get it back now that you are an adult. It's the cycle.

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2004-05-08 03:48:51 PM  
What is so important and funny about TPing someone's property? Would the world really be that boring if people gave up their INANE, POINTLESS pranks? Perhaps I missed the class on how doing something utterly LAME, UNORIGINAL, and MEANINGLESS enriches everyone's lives... Aren't there enough mysteries in life to keep people busy without resorting to some kind of entirely feckless activity?

Seriously, someone explain any sort of meaningful rationale for TPing someone's property, without going all ad hominem. Suggesting "revenge" will betray your complete cluelessness.

That said, I think the punishment was a bit severe. The kids need to be taught a lesson, but interfering with their future employment will probably only do society a disservice.

The people involved in laying the charges are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "letter of the law vs. spirit of the law".
2004-05-08 03:55:02 PM  
They should have watched this:

T.P. Spells Trouble
2004-05-08 03:57:40 PM  
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2004-05-08 04:08:10 PM  

They should have watched this:

T.P. Spells Trouble

HAHAHAHA. That was damn funny.
2004-05-08 04:12:02 PM  

That was hilarious.
/watching Drag Racing Disaster now
2004-05-08 04:41:01 PM  
Nice stymie ! And I thought I was the only one to see Welcome to the Dollhouse.
2004-05-08 05:00:42 PM  
DeathZero gets an 'A+' for trolling. Good job!!
2004-05-08 05:04:35 PM  
Damned punk kids should be executed.
...Or at least lightly tasered.

2004-05-08 05:20:45 PM  
Whoever whote this cheated on their journalism final
2004-05-08 05:21:25 PM  

As did I.
2004-05-08 05:22:06 PM  
I remember an old neighbor lady who cancelled her newspaper, and then the following night the newspaper boy and a few friends TPed her house. Doesn't sound like much, huh?

Well, the reason she cancelled her newspaper was because she used a walker and the newspaper boy threw her newspapers everywhere except the porch where she needed help to get off of.

She refused any help to clean up her property, even calling the cops,and for the rest of the month, the TP stayed up until her son drove out to help her.
2004-05-08 05:22:23 PM  
This isn't just a little high school pranking. If you think it's all fun and games, maybe I should come over to your house, TP it, throw eggs on it, and write "DeathZero is t3h R0xoR!!!" on your garage door with shaving cream. Let me tell you, it is not fun trying to clean up eggs, shaving cream, and TP strung around the branches of trees and on the roof of your house.

A few more points that no one seems to understand about what happened (RTFA, stupid):
-This is an annual tradition (for some people who can't read something that large, it means it happens once a year and has been happening for a long time, and, mostly, tolerated)
-The students were disciplined with either cleaning up or paying for the clean-up
-No eggs were involved (that one is especially for you DeathZero)
2004-05-08 05:36:32 PM  
The video was funny, the comments were frigging priceless!
2004-05-08 05:41:52 PM  
Why has only one person given props to the school administration for bucking recent trends and NOT charging the kids? Of course, very few people probably RTFA, so that explains it.

Also, I don't know a ton about police procedures, but could it be the security guard's fault they got charged? Once he signed the paper pressing charges then the cops had to file the charges, correct? I may be wrong on this, though, so I'm asking.

But again, I doubt many people RTFA article, and instead said "omg look an opportunity to bash pigs*"

*that word is so 1970s
2004-05-08 06:46:49 PM  
It happened here in Nashville. Local channels say the charges were dropped.
2004-05-08 06:54:50 PM  
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Job I did on my neighbors house across the cul-de-sac. Total ~2-gross rolls of TP, backyard not pictured.
2004-05-08 06:58:04 PM  
We had the tree in our front yard TPed one year...guess what? We didn't give a shiat. In fact, we couldn't get a little bit out of the top branches, it rained the next day, the TP pretty much became a permanent part of the tree until the weather eventually took care of matters. If something bothered me all that much or if I was a repeat target, I'd just set up a hidden video surveillance system and think of some creative way to scare them into not returning. In any case...egg throwing, TPing and shaving cream are messy, but not damaging unless you allow the stuff to bake in the sun a few days. I have less important things to be annoyed at...
2004-05-08 07:40:42 PM  
gay gay gay
2004-05-08 09:28:37 PM  
I don't remember this as a tradition when I graduated from H.H.S., but that was twenty years ago and we usually just focused on the homes of certain asshat teachers and administrators. The vice-principal (read: primary biatch in charge of busting people) was named Lydia Cox- the spraypaint types had a field day with her name, believe me.

As far as the overabundance of cops goes it's not much of a suprise; the police here are a pack of uneducated room-temperature IQ types who routinely hang out in the safe upper-middle class white neighborhoods like the one in which H.H.S. is located so that they won't have to bother with actually enforcing the law in the projects. When I was a kid and still living at the parents' house I had a metro cop tell me that there was a cat leash law in Nashville, and that on our two acres of land the cats had to be leashed or I could be charged with a violation, arrested and left in intake over the weekend. Needless to say he was lying through his teeth; when I contacted his superior officer about the encounter the officer in question denied ever speaking to me. They're a bunch of lazy pu$$ies.
2004-05-08 11:06:37 PM  
guess they forgot their TP scrolls at home, otherwise they would have TPed back home and not get caught.
2004-05-08 11:46:26 PM  
That's a nice tp job, metal. Keep up the good work!
2004-05-09 01:54:00 AM  
Now for someone to post a Cox and Forkrum comic loosely related to the topic...
2004-05-09 01:20:21 PM  
Teh felony was from them BREAKING IN to the school.

2004-05-09 02:49:30 PM  
I see nothing wrong with giving these little punks a felony. Hasn't anybody had their house TP'd or egged on Halloween? Granted, this was a school, but the principle is the same. It is a biatch and a half to clean, and since the punks rarely get caught, they think it is alright and keep doing it.

Felonies should be reserved for extremely malicious and wanton acts. A prank, while slightly malicious doesn't fit the bill. It's funny how half the stuff in American Graffiti would land you in jail now and mess up the rest of your life.

Being convicted of a felony has a HUGE impact on your future with pretty much every white collar position these days involving a criminal background check. You shouldn't be penalized for life for basically just being a dumb kid. What kind of lesson are you teaching? Fear the Gestapo?

Sounds like you got picked on too much in high school.
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