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(D101)   One of the best Web comics is ending because of lack of readers. Help save it..   ( divider line
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2002-01-08 01:55:04 AM  
Uhhhhhh no!
2002-01-08 01:55:07 AM  
I've never heard od it so I won't comment
2002-01-08 01:55:30 AM  
I thought the classifieds went on the right?
2002-01-08 01:55:55 AM  
Best web comic is like best web cam. Just means its slightly less terrible than being anally violated with a cactus.
2002-01-08 01:56:19 AM  
Survival of the fittest...
2002-01-08 01:57:17 AM  
Besides, the person running it should do it cause they like it, not because a bunch of drones read it.
2002-01-08 01:59:02 AM  
I can't help but not care even a tiny little bit.
2002-01-08 02:01:07 AM  
One of the best goat liver substitutes is about to go off the market because no one will buy it.

2002-01-08 02:01:35 AM  
I read the first 5 and still didn't know the characters names, motives, personalities, or sexual orientation.

don't blame me...
2002-01-08 02:01:36 AM  
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Still not reason enough *sigh*

*pulls out array of various weaponry*
2002-01-08 02:02:20 AM  
"This is Muppetfarker #26"
2002-01-08 02:03:07 AM  
*Farley* Holy Snikeys! This is the wrong damn comment thread.
2002-01-08 02:03:37 AM  
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2002-01-08 02:04:58 AM  
I had to force myself to care enough to say how little I care. I just didn't find the alleged comic interesting.
2002-01-08 02:07:50 AM  
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Hooray for Isometric too
2002-01-08 02:16:03 AM  
Moody and depressed are not good characteristics of a comic (or its author for that matter)
2002-01-08 02:19:10 AM  
This comic was so farking great, then why does it have a lack of readers??? What I seen of this comic, the tens seconds I could stand to look at it, it was complete crap
2002-01-08 02:19:15 AM  
King TT,
2002-01-08 02:19:28 AM  
Radiofreewill is a very big fan of the '80's sitcom "Small Wonder". It's a fact!
2002-01-08 02:20:04 AM  
i demand that whoever submitted this link step forward so we may taunt you repeatedly
2002-01-08 02:22:26 AM  
I say we give forced psychiatric examinations to all teenagers. This is pathetic.
2002-01-08 02:27:52 AM  
let it die its been waiting for so long.
2002-01-08 02:28:25 AM  
Pfft. None can defeat the mighty!

Well, granted, Pokey does come close.. YES
2002-01-08 02:30:20 AM  
Who cares! To hell with it! Let it die..
2002-01-08 02:35:43 AM  
The first words of the comic are "Oh... Fudge..."

I'm just sayin'...
2002-01-08 02:42:08 AM  
who decided this was one of the best web comics ever?
gimme a break.
2002-01-08 02:53:52 AM  
Ratedfreewill's in laws!

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2002-01-08 03:01:07 AM  
Why is it the Small Wonder post brings me more joy than any comic...
2002-01-08 03:01:46 AM  
looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffin' glue.
2002-01-08 03:24:45 AM  
First of all, he's not shutting down the comic for lack of readers. He's shutting it down because he's lost his will to create it. He had to put it on hold for a while during the holidays, and later found out that he hadn't missed drawing his comic (something that used to be his driving force). It's all in his letter to his readers found here.

Secondly, just because an Internet comic has a lack of readers, doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad comic. It could just have a bad readership because the author doesn't know how to advertise his comic properly, or can't. It's not like a comic book shop where you can stroll down the isles looking for something different, you actually have to be told where to look on the Internet.

The majority of Internet comics that I read are from Plan Nine Comics, and hosted by KeenSpot. If you ever go to a comic hosted by KeenSpot, they usually have links to the other comics they host. Therefore, one comic can advertise for another comic, and you find new comics that way. From what I saw, this guy is all on his own and with a limited budget, so it's kind of hard for him to get his word out.

Plus, you can't really tell whether a comic is good or not by just reading the first chapter or so. It would be like watching the first 10 minutes of a movie, and determining that the ending sucks. So, no one's pointing a gun to your head, if you don't like it, don't read it, one man's garbage is another man's treasure, and all those other idioms.

Anyways, if this comic is about to disappear, it's too bad I didn't find it sooner. I really liked the art in that comic. It looks like a cross between Disney and anime which is kind of nice. And it just gets better over time.

So, my opinion? After only reading a few pages or so, the story looks simple, and somewhat dry, but it could just be one of those story lines that start out slow and eventually build up. Therefore, I can't really judge whether this is a good comic (story-wise) or not. Fortunately, there's always Sluggy Freelance or Bruno the Bandit if I find I don't like it. :)
2002-01-08 03:30:25 AM  
And after reading some more, I find that he's a she. So take everything I said about "him", and replace it with "her".
2002-01-08 03:32:36 AM  
actually, you can tell quite quickly that the guy can't draw for shiat.
2002-01-08 03:33:48 AM  
yeah, mine too -- SHE can't draw for shiat.
2002-01-08 03:37:23 AM  
no one reads it cuz it sucks.
2002-01-08 03:42:00 AM  
I reckon a lot of the kids of fark are talentless morons who just like saying they don't like other people's stuff, but can't do shiat themselves.

She can draw, Snarf-snarf, that's obvious.

But some practical advice: Take notice of BASIC image sizing and navigational tenants of the www:
1. If the images must be halved in weight
2. Don't make people use a back button to navigate (heard of next >>? better still, a flat DBase, of even farking FRAMES, jeez!)

It's got that whole print-designer-turned-to-web-for-profit, i-have-a-scanner-and-i-know-how-to-use-it thing going, and that really dont' make for frequent repeat visits.
2002-01-08 03:44:20 AM  
Snarf-snarf: Just because she doesn't have a Disney producer cracking a whip behind her, doesn't mean that she can't draw.

I find that her art is actually very good. The proportions of the body are all correct, and the shading is done very well. Even the hands look like hands, which are one of the hardest things to draw on the human body.
2002-01-08 03:45:44 AM  
CleverBlonde -- I was thinking I was the only one annoyed by having to use the back button (or alt-left arrow) to read each page. I read three pages and quit.
2002-01-08 03:52:34 AM  
Anything is better than mine.
2002-01-08 04:03:53 AM  
It's always sad to see a webcomic go under. I do one myself, and it requires a lot of time and effort. (Unless you do a sprite comic :P)

This 'toonist obviously has artistic ability, but sometimes it takes more than that. In the end you just have to be doing it for your own enjoyment anyway, and when it stops being fun then you shut it down.
2002-01-08 04:08:41 AM  
Fazzle is right 100%. If he really liked it, he could continue on a free server.
2002-01-08 04:14:09 AM  
Yiddles: Care to provide a link? I'm always looking for new things to like :)
2002-01-08 04:14:32 AM  
I like it. I've read the first part, and I'll finish it tomorrow.

I disagree with the statement that reading the first few pages of a comic are like watching the first few minutes of a movie. Comic artists don't put out a finished product all at once, they build it gradually. "Cerebus" started out as a somewhat crudely-drawn Conan spoof, but it evolved into the idiosyncratic, sprawling epic it is now.

Whenever I pick up an Issue #1 put out by an artist who's just starting out, I take the hesitant penstrokes and awkward dialogue with a grain of salt, and try to see the idea behind it all. Usually after about a year the comic has grown into something more worthwhile, once the artist gains more experience and confidence. The same goes for this webcomic.

Hey, the transition from print comics to web comics is weird for some artists. I agree with CleverBlonde, the artist should read up on Scott McCloud and fix up her layout. The back-buttoning was a pain.

As for all you people who cared enough to write how much you don't care, I find your insights intriguing. Your knowledge of the comics world and intelligent critiques were thought-provoking and fascinating.
2002-01-08 04:21:09 AM  

The tag line says it all:

"An online comic about high school and other forces of evil"

I HAD to read it and I'm impressed, I think it's wonderful. I am going to read the whole thing tomorrow. High school is truly evil (it just about killed me, or forced me to kill, it had to come to one of the two; thank god I decided to leave).

I don't get why most of the people here say it sucks, oh, wait, I just realized that you are a bunch of jackasses who think that by making other people feel bad, the over-all world happieness pines index will go down and you will feel better because your happienes index remained the same. The only legitimate biatch here was from CleverBlonde with whom I agree.

2002-01-08 04:34:20 AM  
JessicaDV8: You misread. I didn't state that reading the first few pages of a comic are like watching the first few minutes of a movie. I stated that determining a comic's worth after only a few pages is like doing the same thing after the first 10 minutes of a movie. It's a fine line, but there is a difference.
2002-01-08 05:00:38 AM  
never heard of it... let it die
2002-01-08 05:05:00 AM  
At least they were spending their time on a comic strip and not trying to learn hoew to fly.
2002-01-08 05:23:16 AM  

Scoop is better than this well drawn filth.

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Read Scoop! Wendy

2002-01-08 05:26:14 AM  
ill try to sum it up for everyone..... the art was good, the layout of the site needs work and having to use the backbutton to read every page left me with no other choice but to read only 3 pages, and never return. but other then that i wish then luck....
2002-01-08 06:09:26 AM  
I learnt that I love scoop.
2002-01-08 06:30:49 AM  
Hm. Whoever she is, she's biting Yoshiatoshi Abe big time with the frontpage graphics. (He's best known for "Serial Experiments Lain." Maybe you've heard of it?) Dig it.

He's got an entire comic project featuring big-eared angels with teeny tiny wings. Although, really, the wings -she's- drawn are cribbed from Card Captor Sakura. UGH.

This is why I hate so much "anime" styled art. It's incredibly derivative by nature. Yawn. Let this comic die. Maybe she'll come up with something original to replace it.
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