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(Time)   Not content with just poking the Panda, Rex Tillerson decides to steal its food and poop in its cage; Says China should be blocked from accessing the very islands it's preparing to go to war over   ( time.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, ExxonMobil, South China Sea, Barack Obama, Pacific Ocean, People's Republic of China, United States Senate, President-elect Donald Trump, China Sea reefs  
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2017-01-12 01:25:11 AM  
Maybe this is all part of Comrade Trump's brilliant plan to reduce gun violence.

If all the guns are needed elsewhere because he's started half a dozen regional wars, there'll be fewer available to violent people at home and gun crime will go down.

Genius!
 
2017-01-12 01:34:04 AM  

Highroller48: Maybe this is all part of Comrade Trump's brilliant plan to reduce gun violence.

If all the guns are needed elsewhere because he's started half a dozen regional wars, there'll be fewer available to violent people at home and gun crime will go down.

Genius!


it's his jobs plan. now all the able bodied young men can be soldiers and fight the Chinese for Exxon.
 
2017-01-12 01:38:11 AM  
It's so very comforting to see that the incoming administration intends to run foreign policy like it's a lost Tom Clancy manuscript.

Orange Storm Rising, now available in paperback from Doubleday.
 
2017-01-12 03:28:06 AM  
I just hope that whatever comes out of this mess Trump and Co are getting ourselves into that we can finally get China to do whats right about NK

Who am I kidding? We don't do right about our biatch Israel, and we never will, so why expect China to do the same to their biatch?
 
2017-01-12 04:32:23 AM  
Oh yes, stopping them from getting to the islands they want is EXACTLY how you don't have a war.

Sun Tzu says

To provoke the enemy, entice him with something he is certain to take.
 
2017-01-12 04:32:37 AM  
well, one nice thing about WWIII is that i'm not far from a primary target site.  A flash of light, and next thing I know the woman and I are in Valhalla drinking mead with the gods and wondering WTF just happened.
 
2017-01-12 04:33:56 AM  
Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.
 
2017-01-12 04:34:40 AM  
Whatever comes of this, we can all rest easy knowing that Donald Trump and Rex Tillerson have America's best interests in mind. Granted, the next iPhone will cost about $9000 but that's a small sacrifice to teach those bastards who's boss.
 
2017-01-12 04:34:54 AM  
I wonder how white women feel about voting certain death for there husbands and Children right now?  Of course, they're not paying attention yet.

But they will.
 
2017-01-12 04:36:15 AM  
Never get involved in a sea war in Asia.
 
2017-01-12 04:37:11 AM  

randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.


"Stood up" to China? What are you, twelve?
This is serious international business, not a schoolyard shoving match.
 
2017-01-12 04:37:24 AM  
putting military assets on those islands was "akin to Russia's taking Crimea" from Ukraine.

But your Boss says that was ok.
 
2017-01-12 04:38:03 AM  

randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.


Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.
 
2017-01-12 04:38:19 AM  
FTFA: Asked whether he supported a more aggressive posture toward China, he said: "We're going to have to send China a clear signal that, first, the island-building stops and, second, your access to those islands also is not going to be allowed."

I'm curious about Rex Tillerson's use of the third person passive voice. He started out strong with a "we", and then suddenly drifted into language he wasn't owning.
Is he a middle manager at Verizon or the next Sec. State?
 
2017-01-12 04:41:05 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: I wonder how white women feel about voting certain death for there husbands and Children right now?  Of course, they're not paying attention yet.

But they will.


GREAT! More lucky angels for Heaven!
 
2017-01-12 04:44:48 AM  
China graduates 9,000,000 college students, most of them engineering disciplines a year and had a fully modernized infrastructure.

We go to war with China we lose.  To win would go against the grain of the history of combat.

However, if the aim of those instigating the war is to reduce the number of youth that might challenge their rule through casualty, and to get people to accept robots in labor roles previously held by humans, then war with China is a success provided you can avoid a large scale nuclear exchange.

This is why you never let a syndicate of billionaire's control your army.
 
2017-01-12 04:49:23 AM  

Gyrfalcon: randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.

Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.


As much as I hate to say I agree with anything coming out of the Trump administration, I do believe that without push-back, China's territorial aggression in the South China Sea will have negative consequences not only for the countries of that region, but also for the U.S. That being said, I'm not sure what "say" we have as long as the area they are moving into isn't being contested by the leadership of the countries that are actually being infringed upon. As long as people like Duarte say, "Well, they can do what they're doing, it doesn't bother me." then the U.S. doesn't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to saying otherwise.
 
2017-01-12 04:52:42 AM  

timujin: Gyrfalcon: randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.

Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.

As much as I hate to say I agree with anything coming out of the Trump administration, I do believe that without push-back, China's territorial aggression in the South China Sea will have negative consequences not only for the countries of that region, but also for the U.S. That being said, I'm not sure what "say" we have as long as the area they are moving into isn't being contested by the leadership of the countries that are actually being infringed upon. As long as people like Duarte say, "Well, they can do what they're doing, it doesn't bother me." then the U.S. doesn't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to saying otherwise.


We are still running a military base/loosely defined prison-thing on Cuban soil.
I wonder how we would react if China sailed into the Caribbean and ordered us to vacate Gitmo?
 
2017-01-12 04:57:01 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.


And liberals said the same thing about the Soviet Union for decades, better not stand up to them, better not anger them, better just accept their dominance.

Where's the Soviet Union now buddy? Oh, long gone while liberals played "selective memory" about what they had been saying for decades and acted like the collapse was 'inevitable'.

Oh by the way, standing up to them didn't require a full scale war, it just required a willingness to actually do it and as I say, if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe, they would welcome absolutely any chance to stick it in China's eye, but instead for political convenience they will ignore China and sit around whining about Trump.
 
2017-01-12 04:57:03 AM  
FTFA:

"Rex Tillerson told his confirmation hearing before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee that China's building of islands and putting military assets on those islands was "akin to Russia's taking Crimea" from Ukraine. "

///oh in that case it's ok then, because we support Russia in whatever it does," said Trump.

///probably
 
2017-01-12 05:08:58 AM  

randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.


tell me, hav you read this card? Hav you anything to declare?

No bubble gum no spangles no malteaser? nothing in the nature of a weapon...

Did you buy that in Britain? Hav you an export license? Hav you filled in form 3 stroke D stroke 907? Are you Mr Mrs or Miss? Do you possess a dog license?

Follow the blue lights to the place of execution.
 
2017-01-12 05:09:36 AM  

timujin: Gyrfalcon: randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.

Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.

As much as I hate to say I agree with anything coming out of the Trump administration, I do believe that without push-back, China's territorial aggression in the South China Sea will have negative consequences not only for the countries of that region, but also for the U.S. That being said, I'm not sure what "say" we have as long as the area they are moving into isn't being contested by the leadership of the countries that are actually being infringed upon. As long as people like Duarte say, "Well, they can do what they're doing, it doesn't bother me." then the U.S. doesn't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to saying otherwise.


I believe the sea area around the islands are considered open to all maritime traffic. As long as the US enforces the free flow of traffic, it should not matter what Duterte says.

Oddly, the Exxon guy is interested in keeping China out of an area considered to hold vast reserves of gas and minerals.

Does Tillerson want the TPP to get signed, as a way to counteract China?
 
2017-01-12 05:11:31 AM  
There are things we can tell the Chinese, and things we can't. We can't tell them not to build or access their stuoid islands.
We CAN tell them they can't use those islands as an excuse to start treating international waters like their own.
But even that will requires some pushback by our "allies" in the region - we can't lead the charge all by our lonesome. The Phillipines can no longer be counted on, and the Vietnamese never could - so it's going to be complicated, and require finesse and subtlety. So, in other words, under Trump, we're f**ked.
But, you already knew that.
 
2017-01-12 05:25:48 AM  

Sin'sHero: timujin: Gyrfalcon: randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.

Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.

As much as I hate to say I agree with anything coming out of the Trump administration, I do believe that without push-back, China's territorial aggression in the South China Sea will have negative consequences not only for the countries of that region, but also for the U.S. That being said, I'm not sure what "say" we have as long as the area they are moving into isn't being contested by the leadership of the countries that are actually being infringed upon. As long as people like Duarte say, "Well, they can do what they're doing, it doesn't bother me." then the U.S. doesn't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to saying otherwise.

I believe the sea area around the islands are considered open to all maritime traffic. As long as the US enforces the free flow of traffic, it should not matter what Duterte says.

Oddly, the Exxon guy is interested in keeping China out of an area considered to hold vast reserves of gas and minerals.

Does Tillerson want the TPP to get signed, as a way to counteract China?


Thank you for being civil about my misspelling of Duterte's name. Autocorrect and all. This has literally been going on for centuries and a lot of the contested area is with Vietnam, a country we aren't exactly quick to back up in a conflict. Prior to Duterte, we had a greater influence in the area, and with someone else in charge we might still. But since we don't have any territory in that region, all we can do is maintain international shipping lanes. That has been going on, but doesn't really have a significant impact on China increasing their territory by claiming existing islands or by creating new ones. If one of the countries being impinged upon asked for our assistance, that would be something, but that doesn't currently seem likely.
 
2017-01-12 05:28:03 AM  

Weaver95: well, one nice thing about WWIII is that i'm not far from a primary target site.  A flash of light, and next thing I know the woman and I are in Valhalla drinking mead with the gods and wondering WTF just happened.


oh ye gods does that produce one helluva hangover...
I had 12 bottles of mead at a ren faire once in Florida (yes 12).  i regretted it.  this was the culprit:
img.fark.net
 
2017-01-12 05:30:13 AM  

cman: I just hope that whatever comes out of this mess Trump and Co are getting ourselves into that we can finally get China to do whats right about NK

Who am I kidding? We don't do right about our biatch Israel, and we never will, so why expect China to do the same to their biatch?


You're confused as to who's the top and who's the bottom in this relationship.
 
2017-01-12 05:33:17 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: However, if the aim of those instigating the war is to reduce the number of youth that might challenge their rule through casualty, and to get people to accept robots in labor roles previously held by humans, then war with China is a success provided you can avoid a large scale nuclear exchange.


And don't forget removing the competition for young women. Wars are great at getting rid of young men.
 
2017-01-12 05:34:20 AM  
timujin:
Thank you for being civil about my misspelling of Duterte's name. Autocorrect and all. This has literally been going on for centuries and a lot of the contested area is with Vietnam, a country we aren't exactly quick to back up in a conflict. Prior to Duterte, we had a greater influence in the area, and with someone else in charge we might still. But since we don't have any territory in that region, all we can do is maintain international shipping lanes. That has been going on, but doesn't really have a significant impact on China increasing their territory by ...

China is trying to claim they have sovereignty over the area from their mainland to the islands. So, the Intl maritime court considers that international waters. Technically, no request from Philippines or Viet Nam, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc are needed.
(going from memory of articles I have read over the matter, not that I am a lawyer or sea captain or other.)
 
2017-01-12 05:35:24 AM  

randomjsa: Where's the Soviet Union now buddy? Oh, long gone while liberals played "selective memory" about what they had been saying for decades and acted like the collapse was 'inevitable'.


Why is inevitable in air quotes?  We knew the USSR was going to crumble under its own policies within 20 years in the 70's, and lo and behold that's exactly what happened.  Hell their need to abandon their intended plan for a missile base during the Cuban Missile Crisis was itself a demonstration that the USSR didn't have the resources to sustain themselves as a global superpower for too much longer.
 
2017-01-12 05:39:32 AM  
fark it. After Duarte's tantrums, China can go ahead and make the whole place their biatch. 'Nam is too proud of its independence to ask for military assistance from the US, so helping them isn't going to happen. Sure, if Malaysia or Indonesia ask for help they'll probably get it, but I don't think China is gunning for any of their islands.
 
2017-01-12 05:40:33 AM  
So the new administration is all about flipping off China and lubing up our national butthole for Russia?
This makes perfect sense...I guess...to somebody.
 
2017-01-12 05:42:02 AM  

Weaver95: well, one nice thing about WWIII is that i'm not far from a primary target site.  A flash of light, and next thing I know the woman and I are in Valhalla drinking mead with the gods and wondering WTF just happened.


Just make sure that you are close enough so it's instant.  Don't want to miscalculate and end up walking around like a burning Emil from Robocop for any length of time.
 
2017-01-12 05:48:41 AM  

vrax: Weaver95: well, one nice thing about WWIII is that i'm not far from a primary target site.  A flash of light, and next thing I know the woman and I are in Valhalla drinking mead with the gods and wondering WTF just happened.

Just make sure that you are close enough so it's instant.  Don't want to miscalculate and end up walking around like a burning Emil from Robocop for any length of time.


Think how awesome "dead man walking" mode be while you had it though? You are already guaranteed death within a matter of days, so you could go full berserker.  Orgies in the street, blowing your entire life savings in a matter of hours...The important part is that the brothels and bars are all open still after the blast; you might have to travel a bit to make that part work.
 
2017-01-12 05:50:00 AM  

Dave The Slushy: fark it. After Duarte's tantrums, China can go ahead and make the whole place their biatch. 'Nam is too proud of its independence to ask for military assistance from the US, so helping them isn't going to happen. Sure, if Malaysia or Indonesia ask for help they'll probably get it, but I don't think China is gunning for any of their islands.


They're gunning for their waters, though.  Vietnam has been undergoing a pretty ambitious naval expansion.  Their sub fleet is one of the most modern in the area:
http://thediplomat.com/2016/02/how-will-new-subs-affect-vietnams-sout​h​-china-sea-strategy/
 
2017-01-12 05:50:17 AM  

randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.


The list of things you're wrong about grows daily.
 
2017-01-12 05:51:34 AM  

randomjsa: Gyrfalcon: Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.

And liberals said the same thing about the Soviet Union for decades, better not stand up to them, better not anger them, better just accept their dominance.

Where's the Soviet Union now buddy? Oh, long gone while liberals played "selective memory" about what they had been saying for decades and acted like the collapse was 'inevitable'.

Oh by the way, standing up to them didn't require a full scale war, it just required a willingness to actually do it and as I say, if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe, they would welcome absolutely any chance to stick it in China's eye, but instead for political convenience they will ignore China and sit around whining about Trump.


Besides the American Expeditionary Force Siberia that occupied Vladivostok post WWI, the Polar Bear Expedition that occupied Arkhangelsk post WWI, The Hatch Act, The Marshall Plan, The Truman Doctrine, The Korean War, NATO, The Kennedy Doctrine, the Bay of Pigs, The Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, The Cuban Missile Crisis, The Vietnam War, The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty,  and SALT II, those god damn liberals haven't done a farking thing.
 
2017-01-12 05:57:58 AM  
This is over the artificial islands. Honestly what is the issue with how they use their creation, unless they are attacking neighboring countries from them. I thought there were some natural islands that is a point of contention between them, Japan, and NK.
 
2017-01-12 05:58:52 AM  
tinderfitles:
Besides the American Expeditionary Force Siberia that occupied Vladivostok post WWI, the Polar Bear Expedition that occupied Arkhangelsk post WWI, The Hatch Act, The Marshall Plan, The Truman Doctrine, The Korean War, NATO, The Kennedy Doctrine, the Bay of Pigs, The Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, The Cuban Missile Crisis, The Vietnam War, The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty,  and SALT II, those god damn liberals haven't done a farking thing.

They seem to be missing from the Great Battle of Twitter.
 
2017-01-12 05:59:38 AM  

jimmyjackfunk: This is over the artificial islands. Honestly what is the issue with how they use their creation, unless they are attacking neighboring countries from them. I thought there were some natural islands that is a point of contention between them, Japan, and NK.


This is the issue:
www.sldinfo.com
 
2017-01-12 06:02:30 AM  

Gyrfalcon: randomjsa: Today in "if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe", they would be cheering anyone who stood up to China instead of sitting around looking for something to whine about.

Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.


Arguably, blocking them from accessing those islands would require threats of force and may lead to actual shootings.
 
2017-01-12 06:02:40 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: jimmyjackfunk: This is over the artificial islands. Honestly what is the issue with how they use their creation, unless they are attacking neighboring countries from them. I thought there were some natural islands that is a point of contention between them, Japan, and NK.

This is the issue:
[www.sldinfo.com image 567x302]


Oh damn thanks for that I knew about the dispute never actually seen the pictures like that showing how close to other sovereign nations they are.
 
2017-01-12 06:06:26 AM  

jimmyjackfunk: Satanic_Hamster: jimmyjackfunk: This is over the artificial islands. Honestly what is the issue with how they use their creation, unless they are attacking neighboring countries from them. I thought there were some natural islands that is a point of contention between them, Japan, and NK.

This is the issue:
[www.sldinfo.com image 567x302]

Oh damn thanks for that I knew about the dispute never actually seen the pictures like that showing how close to other sovereign nations they are.


That's one of the reasons they're building the fake islands, to bolster their claim that they deserve to own all the sea there.
 
2017-01-12 06:07:44 AM  

jimmyjackfunk: Satanic_Hamster: jimmyjackfunk: This is over the artificial islands. Honestly what is the issue with how they use their creation, unless they are attacking neighboring countries from them. I thought there were some natural islands that is a point of contention between them, Japan, and NK.

This is the issue:
[www.sldinfo.com image 567x302]

Oh damn thanks for that I knew about the dispute never actually seen the pictures like that showing how close to other sovereign nations they are.


The Spratley's have been in contention since the 50's, but even before that (literally for centuries) China has been trying to claim sovereignty over the entire South China Sea. Now they're trying to expand what area has been granted to them by creating artificial islands within international waters, giving them "our land territory + so many miles of ocean". And they're putting facilities on those islands that will extend their military control over the same region.
 
2017-01-12 06:08:13 AM  

randomjsa: Gyrfalcon: Note: "Standing up to China" no longer means offering to have a shooting war with them. But you knew that, and know it as you sh*t your way off into whatever sewer you live in.

And liberals said the same thing about the Soviet Union for decades, better not stand up to them, better not anger them, better just accept their dominance.

Where's the Soviet Union now buddy? Oh, long gone while liberals played "selective memory" about what they had been saying for decades and acted like the collapse was 'inevitable'.

Oh by the way, standing up to them didn't require a full scale war, it just required a willingness to actually do it and as I say, if liberals really believed the things they claim to believe, they would welcome absolutely any chance to stick it in China's eye, but instead for political convenience they will ignore China and sit around whining about Trump.


I don't think you know what liberal means.
 
2017-01-12 06:08:56 AM  
Is it so impossible to understand that China has been emboldened by 8 years of a lax American policy? China is not our friend.
 
2017-01-12 06:13:34 AM  
I don't see why Duarte is so stoked about China carving out a giant chunk of their territory, including
islands/shoals/rocks that have been part of Philippines sovereign territory. It was awfully nice of the
U.S. and and allied troops to take all of that back during WW II, for this foul mouthed clown to just give it
away, for his own personal aggrandizement.
 
2017-01-12 06:15:46 AM  

mrinfoguy: Is it so impossible to understand that China has been emboldened by 8 years of a lax American policy? China is not our friend.


There's an old saying that nations don't have friends, they have interests.  It has always been in our best interest to keep China happy, or at least not to antagonize them.   But that's getting flushed down the toilet.

Also worth noting:  Russia isn't our friend either.
 
2017-01-12 06:18:36 AM  
Remember when the right wing told us we were being hyperbolic and paranoid when we said electing trump would bring on WWIII? Possibly with China?

Good times.
 
2017-01-12 06:21:51 AM  

Smoking GNU: Remember when the right wing told us we were being hyperbolic and paranoid when we said electing trump would bring on WWIII? Possibly with China?

Good times.


Impossible.  I was assured by Top Bros that it was HILLARY who was the warmonger.
 
2017-01-12 06:24:12 AM  
He was about to give out free golden showers. It's cool.
 
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