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(Great Falls Tribune)   If you invite your church group over to the house to watch religious DVDs, make sure you clear your laptop's browser of child porn before hitting Play   (greatfallstribune.com ) divider line
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2017-01-11 06:22:29 PM  
I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.

Luckily I've never found child porn. It's got to feel awful finding it, seeing it then turning over your now former friend or associate to the police.
 
2017-01-11 06:42:02 PM  
It's called 'knowing your audience' subtard.
 
2017-01-11 08:28:04 PM  
That's almost exactly what happened to me once. I invited some friends over to watch porn and when I hit play a video started talking about Jesus and god. I was mortified.

/Thankfully my friends have the decency to never mention it.
 
2017-01-11 09:11:35 PM  

Ron Vibbentrop: That's almost exactly what happened to me once. I invited some friends over to watch porn and when I hit play a video started talking about Jesus and god. I was mortified.

/Thankfully my friends have the decency to never mention it.


So. Jesus has these holes in has hands...
 
2017-01-11 09:20:12 PM  
Oops.
 
2017-01-11 09:21:11 PM  

Ron Vibbentrop: That's almost exactly what happened to me once. I invited some friends over to watch porn and when I hit play a video started talking about Jesus and god. I was mortified.

/Thankfully my friends have the decency to never mention it.


I bet the Russkies planted it.
 
2017-01-11 09:21:47 PM  

RJReves: Oops.


Shakes fist.

This was MY POST....
 
2017-01-11 09:22:41 PM  
"Here it is, sufferthechildren.mpg"
 
2017-01-11 09:25:56 PM  
I can't imagine anything more boring than sitting around with a bunch of gossipy, uptight, church folk, watching Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas.

Plus, there was almost definitely no booze at this event. So....all of us farkers are out, anyway.
 
2017-01-11 09:27:03 PM  

Cdr.Murdock: RJReves: Oops.

Shakes fist.

This was MY POST....


*shakes tiny cross*

:-D
 
2017-01-11 09:27:37 PM  

djkutch: Ron Vibbentrop: That's almost exactly what happened to me once. I invited some friends over to watch porn and when I hit play a video started talking about Jesus and god. I was mortified.

/Thankfully my friends have the decency to never mention it.

So. Jesus has these holes in has hands...



s23.postimg.org
 
2017-01-11 09:27:51 PM  

WillJM8528: I can't imagine anything more boring than sitting around with a bunch of gossipy, uptight, church folk, watching Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas.

Plus, there was almost definitely no booze at this event. So....all of us farkers are out, anyway.


That movie should be reclassified as a war crime.
Seriously, I show that to casual Christians to explain to them why they need to abandon the word "Christian".

/Seriously, Christmas trees are the cross? Really, Kirk?? Go make out with Ray Comfort some more.
 
2017-01-11 09:31:08 PM  
So the guy is not only a pervert, but he is a stupid pervert.  Why, if you had something illegal on your computer, would you let someone else use it.  I have nothing of interest on my computer, and I still don't like letting other people use it.  I feel like they're invading my personal space.
 
2017-01-11 09:34:31 PM  
img.fark.net

Why does a DVD need a browser?
 
2017-01-11 09:35:23 PM  

aperson: So the guy is not only a pervert, but he is a stupid pervert.  Why, if you had something illegal on your computer, would you let someone else use it.  I have nothing of interest on my computer, and I still don't like letting other people use it.  I feel like they're invading my personal space.


wife and i, same way. computers and phones are personal items and we respect that for each other. besides, she's known the kind of freak i am for a real long time anyway.
 
2017-01-11 09:36:16 PM  
I was on a business trip years ago, and brought a dvd with me.  The movie Barcelona.  My fiancee at the time and I did a trade show, and I said "hey honey, i got a movie, i am gonna jump in the shower, you start watching it"

I got out of the shower and the TV was off, and she said "you are always joking"

I turned on the DVD player and it was titled "big black butts getting big black cocks barebacked part 7".

Turns out it was a multi disc player and it wouldnt change, and that was stuck in it.
 
2017-01-11 09:37:09 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: djkutch: Ron Vibbentrop: That's almost exactly what happened to me once. I invited some friends over to watch porn and when I hit play a video started talking about Jesus and god. I was mortified.

/Thankfully my friends have the decency to never mention it.

So. Jesus has these holes in has hands...


[s23.postimg.org image 642x586]


I'm going to Hell for laughing at that, aren't I?

Wait, who am I kidding.  I'm halfway there.
 
2017-01-11 09:38:46 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-01-11 09:42:18 PM  
Sure, he was an old man, but how did they not give the old chap a beat down upon discovery?
 
2017-01-11 09:44:11 PM  

Gordon Bennett: I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.

Luckily I've never found child porn. It's got to feel awful finding it, seeing it then turning over your now former friend or associate to the police.


This is one of the bigger reason's why I don't go snooping on clients computers, I don't want to find something like that and then have to report it. Common decency and respecting ones privacy would be other big reasons why I don't go poking around.

Geek squad guys used the store servers to copy porn, music, and programs they would find on people's computers, I'm surprised they never stumbled on to anything they had to call the cops for, at least not that I remember reading about anyway.
 
2017-01-11 09:45:03 PM  

MFAWG: It's called 'knowing your audience' subtard.


I guess he thought he was having  a catholic church group over?

Low hanging (unripe) fruit, yah yah yah.
 
2017-01-11 09:45:45 PM  
I find it funny that the groups that are always saying that atheists have no morals and are deviants are the same ones that get popped for kiddie porn.

Moral Majority indeed
 
2017-01-11 09:48:56 PM  

macadamnut: [img.fark.net image 850x356]

Why does a DVD need a browser?


I didn't want to be "That Guy", so thanks.
 
2017-01-11 09:49:36 PM  

Gordon Bennett: I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.

Luckily I've never found child porn. It's got to feel awful finding it, seeing it then turning over your now former friend or associate to the police.


Mine is not hidden.  All of my porn goes in a folder on my desk top titled "Adult Entertainment."  The reason for this is that my friends have standing orders that if I die they are to open up a sealed envelope stashed within a certain book on one of my book cases, find the password inside, and then log onto my computer and delete that folder (and empty the trash). This way there are no hidden surprises if anyone were to go searching through my computer after I die.  Yeah, someone determined to do so could recover search for recently deleted folders on my hard drive but I doubt my family would think about doing that.
 
2017-01-11 09:50:37 PM  

macadamnut: [img.fark.net image 850x356]

Why does a DVD need a browser?


It does not, but you know those religious types, they are so damned eager to root out the sins in others that they cannot help but prying into the lives of their family, friends, and neighbors.
 
2017-01-11 09:51:56 PM  
I dunno, subby.

Maybe they were Catholic.
 
2017-01-11 09:52:09 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: macadamnut: [img.fark.net image 850x356]

Why does a DVD need a browser?

I didn't want to be "That Guy", so thanks.


Come on. Have you never seen old people try to operate a computer if they're not familiar with them? Hell, they were probably trying to go on AOL to watch the DVD.
 
2017-01-11 09:53:30 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-01-11 09:53:35 PM  
Mock26:

too risky. Just keep DBN on a jump drive taped to the machine in an envelope with directions on how to boot and nuke your machine.

69 overwrites seems appropriate to nix porn
 
2017-01-11 09:55:22 PM  

theflatline: I was on a business trip years ago, and brought a dvd with me.  The movie Barcelona.  My fiancee at the time and I did a trade show, and I said "hey honey, i got a movie, i am gonna jump in the shower, you start watching it"

I got out of the shower and the TV was off, and she said "you are always joking"

I turned on the DVD player and it was titled "big black butts getting big black cocks barebacked part 7".

Turns out it was a multi disc player and it wouldnt change, and that was stuck in it.


That's terrible.  How would you follow the plot without watching the other six?
 
2017-01-11 09:55:33 PM  

Mock26: Gordon Bennett: I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.

Luckily I've never found child porn. It's got to feel awful finding it, seeing it then turning over your now former friend or associate to the police.

Mine is not hidden.  All of my porn goes in a folder on my desk top titled "Adult Entertainment."  The reason for this is that my friends have standing orders that if I die they are to open up a sealed envelope stashed within a certain book on one of my book cases, find the password inside, and then log onto my computer and delete that folder (and empty the trash). This way there are no hidden surprises if anyone were to go searching through my computer after I die.  Yeah, someone determined to do so could recover search for recently deleted folders on my hard drive but I doubt my family would think about doing that.


Use a live CD to browse, (or a linix distro that can be ran from RAM alone) and archive everything in an encrypted external drive.  They are small enuff now that you could get one that could be flushed down a decently powerful toilet.  Not that i spent any time thinking about that kind of shiat.  Some guy i know is a cop or something.
 
2017-01-11 09:59:01 PM  
If you find my porn stash after I'm dead...well, the legal problems are yours now.
 
2017-01-11 10:02:23 PM  

doglover: Mock26:

too risky. Just keep DBN on a jump drive taped to the machine in an envelope with directions on how to boot and nuke your machine.

69 overwrites seems appropriate to nix porn


Nah, not too risky.  There is nothing unusual or strange about anything in my porn collection, and the nearest family member is about 800 miles away.  My friends will show up long before my family does because of the need to check on my pets.
 
2017-01-11 10:05:55 PM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Mock26: Gordon Bennett: I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.

Luckily I've never found child porn. It's got to feel awful finding it, seeing it then turning over your now former friend or associate to the police.

Mine is not hidden.  All of my porn goes in a folder on my desk top titled "Adult Entertainment."  The reason for this is that my friends have standing orders that if I die they are to open up a sealed envelope stashed within a certain book on one of my book cases, find the password inside, and then log onto my computer and delete that folder (and empty the trash). This way there are no hidden surprises if anyone were to go searching through my computer after I die.  Yeah, someone determined to do so could recover search for recently deleted folders on my hard drive but I doubt my family would think about doing that.

Use a live CD to browse, (or a linix distro that can be ran from RAM alone) and archive everything in an encrypted external drive.  They are small enuff now that you could get one that could be flushed down a decently powerful toilet.  Not that i spent any time thinking about that kind of shiat.  Some guy i know is a cop or something.


Too much effort and really not worth it.  My mom is just old fashioned and is offended by the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue.  So I am not really worried about anyone else finding it.  There are no personal photos, nothing incriminating, nothing "bizarre"  (well, one picture of a Japanese woman with cat ears), so if someone else finds it or if my laptop is stolen I am not worried.  I can always download more if need be.  I simply do not want my parents to see it.
 
2017-01-11 10:06:25 PM  

DemonKing561: I find it funny that the groups that are always saying that atheists have no morals and are deviants are the same ones that get popped for kiddie porn.

Moral Majority indeed


The moral majority is neither
 
2017-01-11 10:10:52 PM  
So fundies need to use a search engine to figure out how to play a frickin DVD? No wonder they voted for the walking dumpster fire.
 
2017-01-11 10:11:33 PM  
"The witness reported that when he opened a search engine on the computer he saw as many as 25 images of naked children engaged in sexual acts. "

A search engine? I could see opening a file on his computer or his media player still having it on a recently played list, but what search engine shows child porn?
 
2017-01-11 10:15:27 PM  

Gordon Bennett: I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.



Eh, is this really such a big deal to people anymore?   Unless perhaps children have access to the computer, in which case some effort to conceal it might be in order.  Other than that, it's fairly well established most healthy adults look at porn sometimes.   No biggie.  It's like saying, "I looked in my friends dresser and saw their underwear!!!"     Yeah....so?
 
2017-01-11 10:17:33 PM  

Psylent1: "The witness reported that when he opened a search engine on the computer he saw as many as 25 images of naked children engaged in sexual acts. "

A search engine? I could see opening a file on his computer or his media player still having it on a recently played list, but what search engine shows child porn?


I am kind of wondering if it was barely legal girls, and they decided that some of those 19 year old girls looked too young.

Google will probably cut Drew's add revenue for a week as a result of this thread.
 
2017-01-11 10:40:13 PM  

winedrinkingman: Psylent1: "The witness reported that when he opened a search engine on the computer he saw as many as 25 images of naked children engaged in sexual acts. "

A search engine? I could see opening a file on his computer or his media player still having it on a recently played list, but what search engine shows child porn?

I am kind of wondering if it was barely legal girls, and they decided that some of those 19 year old girls looked too young.

Google will probably cut Drew's add revenue for a week as a result of this thread.


Either its 1) bad police reporting 2)accurate police reporting of an old boomers statement on computers or 3) the reporter doesn't know shiat.

I'm not saying there's NOT surface porn on the web or that it's not on a google search but unless he's opened up an onion browser or 'the computer browser' aka. Windows Explorer (I know some old geezers that really screwed with their head figuring out the difference between the two.)

Without a specific application name like "Firefox on google.com" or "Windows Explorer on C:\users\idotgeezer\kiddyporn" then we'll likely never know just because of the sheer level if computer ignorance in the 1) LE 2) elderly 3) media.

Also as someone else stated, what idiot lets someone use their computer while they have something as inflammatory as a kiddy porn?  Sure you're coding viruses, you're average nimrod isn't going to know it from a java script for a website. A naked 10 year old? Yeah even the dumbest of nimrods is going to know what that is.
 
2017-01-11 10:51:05 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Gordon Bennett: I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.


Eh, is this really such a big deal to people anymore?   Unless perhaps children have access to the computer, in which case some effort to conceal it might be in order.  Other than that, it's fairly well established most healthy adults look at porn sometimes.   No biggie.  It's like saying, "I looked in my friends dresser and saw their underwear!!!"     Yeah....so?


Why are you looking through your friends drawers? That's rather creepy.
 
2017-01-11 10:52:16 PM  

Boo_Guy: Geek squad guys used the store servers to copy porn, music, and programs they would find on people's computers, I'm surprised they never stumbled on to anything they had to call the cops for, at least not that I remember reading about anyway.


Um...the FBI pays Geek Squad to snoop on customers computers  for cash rewards

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/if-a-best-buy-tech​n​ician-is-a-paid-fbi-informant-are-his-computer-searches-legal/2017/01/​09/f56028b4-d442-11e6-9cb0-54ab630851e8_story.html
 
2017-01-11 10:58:52 PM  

Mock26: Too much effort and really not worth it. My mom is just old fashioned and is offended by the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. So I am not really worried about anyone else finding it. There are no personal photos, nothing incriminating, nothing "bizarre" (well, one picture of a Japanese woman with cat ears), so if someone else finds it or if my laptop is stolen I am not worried. I can always download more if need be. I simply do not want my parents to see it.


Most SSDs sold now support and are configured for hardware full disk encryption. Just set an ATA password in the security section of your BIOS, and from then on the contents of your drive are private to you and the NSA. It's not just a password to "log in" to the drive, either. Without your key as an intermediary, the data on the drive is 100% incomprehensible to any means of scanning; even if someone pulls the drive out and tries to mount it to another PC.

/when you die, your porn stash dies with you. much safer than hoping the right person gets to it first.
 
2017-01-11 11:05:36 PM  
I think it's possible a 72 year old computer user might believe everything on the computer is compartmentalized. That if you hand your computer over to someone else to play a dvd, there is no way for them to just stumble over your stash. They'd need to know where to look, what to look for, etc. Then that same guy might put a shortcut on his desktop to his stash, because convenience.

So some church/dinner companion fires up the computer, doesn't know exactly how to just play the dvd, and clicks on the shortcut. Presto! Everyone sees what's there. "Search engine" could mean anything. You can search from the address bar so it's not like they have to say "Google" to differentiate from just a browser window. The article says the cops did find the real thing on the computer, so I doubt it was just barely legal type porn.
 
2017-01-11 11:08:34 PM  

RJReves: Why are you looking through your friends drawers? That's rather creepy.


That's where the baggie and pipe is.  Relax, and don't pass out from excitement or whatever "creepy" thoughts you are having.
 
2017-01-11 11:16:33 PM  

RJReves: ThrobblefootSpectre: Gordon Bennett: I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.


Eh, is this really such a big deal to people anymore?   Unless perhaps children have access to the computer, in which case some effort to conceal it might be in order.  Other than that, it's fairly well established most healthy adults look at porn sometimes.   No biggie.  It's like saying, "I looked in my friends dresser and saw their underwear!!!"     Yeah....so?

Why are you looking through your friends drawers? That's rather creepy.


Mine's really easy.  Bookmarks>Adult>Movies   ...>sites ...>toys ...>hookups. Then personal stuff under Documents\wife\sexy\pics ..\movies ...\clothes

but hey I've been running some kind of adult oriented website since I was 19.  Almost 20 years of porn sites built, dismantled, rebuilt, forums, PHP, Javascript all stored under \documents\businesses\pornsites\movie ...\forums ...\imageshare \java etc....

I don't even care if anyone finds THAT stuff, all my sexual content is legal and in several cases I'm still retaining the model records for vids that are still in some degree of web circulation. 

My PERSONAL stuff?   Yeah... that's ... somewhere .... safe...
 
2017-01-11 11:20:37 PM  
i.imgflip.com
 
2017-01-11 11:29:24 PM  

Mock26: Gordon Bennett: I find people's hidden porn stash every time I use their computers. I don't know why. I'm not looking for it, I don't want to find it. I respect privacy. I don't like the awkward moment when they see me find it, because they are always peering over my shoulder at the time. Probably worrying that I'll stumble across the porn. Which I do. ALWAYS.

Luckily I've never found child porn. It's got to feel awful finding it, seeing it then turning over your now former friend or associate to the police.

Mine is not hidden.  All of my porn goes in a folder on my desk top titled "Adult Entertainment."  The reason for this is that my friends have standing orders that if I die they are to open up a sealed envelope stashed within a certain book on one of my book cases, find the password inside, and then log onto my computer and delete that folder (and empty the trash). This way there are no hidden surprises if anyone were to go searching through my computer after I die.  Yeah, someone determined to do so could recover search for recently deleted folders on my hard drive but I doubt my family would think about doing that.


There is an easier, and more foolproof, way. My second and third hard drives are encrypted with Bitlocker. When you use your usual password or PIN to log onto your PC it automatically decrypts the drives, it is invisible. But take the drives out and try to read them on another PC? You'd get nothing. And without the password for the PC you can't open them.
It might technically be possible to get into without my password, but not something my family would do if I stepped in front of a bus.

/Nothing illegal. Just stuff I wouldn't really want my family to see.
//No furry or MLP porn.
///Well, hardly any.

I also use Bitlocker on my micro SD card in my tablet, since when I'm on vacation etc I have copies of all my documents, passport, credit cards etc on it. If it's stolen, it's unreadable.
ProTip: If your main PC has W10 Pro, and therefore has Bitlocker, but your tablet is W10 Home, and therefore doesn't, you can still create a Bitlocker encrypted SD card on your PC and then put it into your tablet and it will open it when you enter the password and encrypt anything you put on it. It just can't encrypt the drive in the first place.
 
2017-01-11 11:31:25 PM  

DemonKing561: I find it funny that the groups that are always saying that atheists have no morals and are deviants are the same ones that get popped for kiddie porn.

Moral Majority indeed


The majority in the room did take the moral high ground and not go Joe Pa.
 
2017-01-11 11:49:11 PM  
Thankfully, Katee Owen is safely over the legal age, so I'm in the clear!
img.fark.net
Still confused about how porn shows up when you pop a DVD into a computer, but whatever.
 
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