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(Politico)   High-profile killings have made police officers' jobs harder   (politico.com ) divider line
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5 days ago  
the thin blue line is only effective because the population agrees with having it. like a redlight, everyone agrees to follow it. a redlight can't stop anyone from driving thru it.  Real Power is in the population, not the police and not the military. (and not the wealthy 1% either)
which is why i kinda prefer to live in a Democratic Republic.
 
5 days ago  
Something that happens every week is an isolated incident?

I guess it doesn't matter if they think they're getting a raw deal, or thing it makes it hard to do their job by not killing people, as long as they stop.
 
5 days ago  
Sucks having accountability.
 
5 days ago  
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Stop murdering unarmed people, you sorry f*cks.
 
5 days ago  
I too have a job that would be much easier if I could murder people without consequence, so I feel their pain.
 
5 days ago  
That's why'ya gotta stick with da low profile killings, I'm tellin'ya.
 
5 days ago  
Crime rates are still way down, how much harder can their job be??
 
5 days ago  
What is this snowflakery?
 
5 days ago  
I'm gonna stop you right in the 4th paragraph.

FTFA: Among those police officers surveyed, 86 percent told Pew that they believe the fatal incidents have made their jobs more difficult, while 93 percent say police are now more concerned about their safety as a result. Seventy-five percent said they believe that interactions between black residents and law enforcement have become more tense.

The risk is the job. That's the point. You take a risk - protect AND serve. That's where the whole problem started - cops became more concerned about their safety than doing their jobs.

Looks like it ain't changing anytime soon.
 
5 days ago  
"A Pew Research survey of almost 8,000 police officers released Wednesday found that men and women in uniform have changed their approach to their jobs in response to the string of fatal encounters between black people and law enforcement. "

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
 
5 days ago  
.001 of all arrests ends in a death, .0003 end in the death of a black person.

Not even enough to be considered statistically significant.

But hey, the criminals are getting what they want
"Seventy-six percent of those surveyed also say they are now more reluctant to use force when appropriate because of the attention to the incidents, while 72 percent said they are more reluctant to stop and question someone they believe seems suspicious."

Ooo, yeah, bring up Micheal Brown, the gentle giant who got shot while fighting with a cop. If you still buy that malarkey, you should dig up the witness reports, hands up don't shoot was bullshiat.
 
5 days ago  
So, basically, killer's remorse?

Lots of "our jobs are harder", very very little "maybe we shouldn't have done that".
 
5 days ago  
Huh. I can appreciate that this extra scrutiny would make it more difficult. Perhaps, I dunno, STOP murdering people? That might just help.

Not all cops are to blame. But the assholes who protect the ones that do aren't helping.
 
5 days ago  
wait until the blacks find out that they are more likely to be killed by other blacks...what will they do then ??
 
5 days ago  
The shame is this issue cannot be addressed nor correctly diagnosed without running afoul of perceived racism by moderators.

I pray for our police, EMTs, firefighters and all emergency personnel .. they are the front line targets in a war to upend America, and that war cannot be discussed honestly
 
5 days ago  

andthatsok: Poor cops, boo hoo


I rest my case
 
5 days ago  
Why no want oversight? WHY?
 
5 days ago  

HempHead: Crime rates are still way down, how much harder can their job be??


Harder to find someone for whom you can make up a plausible story for shooting.
 
5 days ago  
Aww! Poor little schnookums...

Ok, blatant murders aside (racist or not), you might consider that there could be other things making you and your LEO culture unpopular. Things like civil asset forfeiture, militarization of the police, 3am no knock raids for little/no reason (don't even mention wrong address), Us and Them mentality, LEOs with power trips/ego issues are some of them.

I've dealt with quite a few cops that were decent to me, more than were not, but those handful of assholes ruined it for everyone. Biggest problem is that good cops don't necessarily stop the farks, they usually protect them as brethren (see Us and Them).

So, the short of it is that yes, many people don't like you or your sheit. You started it, so don't start crying about how unfair things are. Live it from this side and you'd never stop crying.
Better yet; you broke it, you fix it...

/El WD nailed it with that gif
 
5 days ago  

mrsleep: .001 of all arrests ends in a death, .0003 end in the death of a black person.

Not even enough to be considered statistically significant.

But hey, the criminals are getting what they want
"Seventy-six percent of those surveyed also say they are now more reluctant to use force when appropriate because of the attention to the incidents, while 72 percent said they are more reluctant to stop and question someone they believe seems suspicious."


The issue is they don't really have a handle on when force is appropriate and they think everyone is suspicious. They should be reluctant to stop and question citizens. I get that you like a police state because you think it won't touch you though.
 
5 days ago  
Yeah, and the increase in cop deaths are just isolated incidents that innocent BLM protestors aren't responsible for either.  Not being sarcastic, just realistic.
 
5 days ago  
Then quit and find a new job that is easier to cope with when you have an inferiority complex.
 
5 days ago  

WTP 2: wait until the blacks find out that they are more likely to be killed by other blacks...what will they do then ??


i.imgur.com
 
5 days ago  

Godscrack: What is this snowflakery?


Snowflake. Now in my vocabulary. Along with weaselheaded Fnugget.
 
5 days ago  

WTP 2: wait until the blacks find out that they are more likely to be killed by other blacks...what will they do then ??


Kill the other blacks first.
 
5 days ago  

Clemkadidlefark: The shame is this issue cannot be addressed nor correctly diagnosed without running afoul of perceived racism by moderators.

I pray for our police, EMTs, firefighters and all emergency personnel .. they are the front line targets in a war to upend America, and that war cannot be discussed honestly


Literally nobody is stopping you from discussing it. If you can't do it without being a racist, you're probably not discussing it honestly.
 
5 days ago  

starsrift: I'm gonna stop you right in the 4th paragraph.

FTFA: Among those police officers surveyed, 86 percent told Pew that they believe the fatal incidents have made their jobs more difficult, while 93 percent say police are now more concerned about their safety as a result. Seventy-five percent said they believe that interactions between black residents and law enforcement have become more tense.

The risk is the job. That's the point. You take a risk - protect AND serve. That's where the whole problem started - cops became more concerned about their safety than doing their jobs.

Looks like it ain't changing anytime soon.


Well yea, it's scary fighting crime.  Best to hide somewhere and leave the crime fighting to the peasants.

http://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-su​b​way-hero-who-subdued-killer/
 
5 days ago  
All I read was that the majority of cops are whiney bastards who don't like being accountable for their own actions, and therefore their deserved reputation.

Yeah...Having someone hold you accountable sucks.  Let me play this tiny violin for you.
 
5 days ago  
If you want to be a cop there is something wrong with you and you should be eliminated for consideration, based on the fact you wanted be a cop.  And cops are basically criminals hiding behind a badge....so yeah.  go f yourself, cop.
 
5 days ago  

WTP 2: wait until the blacks find out that they are more likely to be killed by other blacks...what will they do then ??


Blame guns?
 
5 days ago  
Decriminalize recreational drug use.  Put those dollars into hiring and training better law enforcement officers.  Problem solved.

/ a 0% failure rate is unrealistic.
 
5 days ago  

ChipNASA: WTP 2: wait until the blacks find out that they are more likely to be killed by other blacks...what will they do then ??

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That's nice, but those "other blacks" aren't paid by the government to uphold the law, so nice try.
 
5 days ago  
Translated:
"We hate how people are videotaping and exposing us on the job. Now people can see how we really treat people of color and the poor. It's ruining our plan."
 
5 days ago  

The more you eat the more you fart: All I read was that the majority of cops are whiney bastards who don't like being accountable for their own actions, and therefore their deserved reputation.

Yeah...Having someone hold you accountable sucks.  Let me play this tiny violin for you.


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5 days ago  

JerkyMeat: If you want to be a cop there is something wrong with you and you should be eliminated for consideration, based on the fact you wanted be a cop.  And cops are basically criminals hiding behind a badge....so yeah.  go f yourself, cop.


Wow. That is the dumbest thing I've read today. Seriously, please get professional help.
 
5 days ago  

Clemkadidlefark: The shame is this issue cannot be addressed nor correctly diagnosed without running afoul of perceived racism by moderators.

I pray for our police, EMTs, firefighters and all emergency personnel .. they are the front line targets in a war to upend America, and that war cannot be discussed honestly


Hunh?  Not even close.  There are plenty of ways this can be discussed without even bringing race into the question- you want to discuss better use of body cameras, changes to stop&frisk laws or checkpoints, militarization of SWAT teams, drug law changes, community-based policing, etc?  Go for it.  All of these could have major effects on safety of both police and citizens and wouldn't even begin to touch on race.

If you want to cast it entirely as racial, that's your call.
 
5 days ago  
The important thing to understand about cops is that all they want is for every citizen to gush over what a great service they are doing for the public and how they respect everything the police does.
 
5 days ago  

Bertuccio: Something that happens every week is an isolated incident?


If 52 people are killed each year (your 1 per week figure) in a country of 300,000,000+ people, then yes, those are still relatively isolated incidents.
 
5 days ago  

Percise1: Aww! Poor little schnookums...

Ok, blatant murders aside (racist or not), you might consider that there could be other things making you and your LEO culture unpopular. Things like civil asset forfeiture, militarization of the police, 3am no knock raids for little/no reason (don't even mention wrong address), Us and Them mentality, LEOs with power trips/ego issues are some of them.

I've dealt with quite a few cops that were decent to me, more than were not, but those handful of assholes ruined it for everyone. Biggest problem is that good cops don't necessarily stop the farks, they usually protect them as brethren (see Us and Them).

So, the short of it is that yes, many people don't like you or your sheit. You started it, so don't start crying about how unfair things are. Live it from this side and you'd never stop crying.
Better yet; you broke it, you fix it...

/El WD nailed it with that gif


Even police referring to people as civilians makes me shake my head.
 
5 days ago  

Russ1642: Percise1: Aww! Poor little schnookums...

Ok, blatant murders aside (racist or not), you might consider that there could be other things making you and your LEO culture unpopular. Things like civil asset forfeiture, militarization of the police, 3am no knock raids for little/no reason (don't even mention wrong address), Us and Them mentality, LEOs with power trips/ego issues are some of them.

I've dealt with quite a few cops that were decent to me, more than were not, but those handful of assholes ruined it for everyone. Biggest problem is that good cops don't necessarily stop the farks, they usually protect them as brethren (see Us and Them).

So, the short of it is that yes, many people don't like you or your sheit. You started it, so don't start crying about how unfair things are. Live it from this side and you'd never stop crying.
Better yet; you broke it, you fix it...

/El WD nailed it with that gif

Even police referring to people as civilians makes me shake my head.


Because the police are civilians too correct?
 
5 days ago  

JerkyMeat: If you want to be a cop there is something wrong with you and you should be eliminated for consideration, based on the fact you wanted be a cop.  And cops are basically criminals hiding behind a badge....so yeah.  go f yourself, cop.


So you'd prefer a country with no law enforcement of any kind?  I'm not sure you've thought your cunning plan all the way through...

/ because if you exclude all applicants from consideration for the job, then that's exactly where you'd end up
 
5 days ago  
Interesting how the small government conservatives are perfectly OK with agents of the state summarily killing citizens for minor offenses with no repercussions.

And by interesting I mean what the fark is wrong with them that they support those actions?
 
5 days ago  

The more you eat the more you fart: Because the police are civilians too correct?


Police are civilians, much as they may like to pretend otherwise by dressing up as Navy SEALS.
 
5 days ago  

Bertuccio: Something that happens every week is an isolated incident?

I guess it doesn't matter if they think they're getting a raw deal, or thing it makes it hard to do their job by not killing people, as long as they stop.


Islamic terrorists attacks happen every day. Is it fair to paint all muslims as violent extremists?
Same with cops.
 Yet when we learn more info of these high profile killings we find out that it's never as simple as "guy got shot because he's black."
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: Interesting how the small government conservatives are perfectly OK with agents of the state summarily killing citizens for minor offenses with no repercussions.

And by interesting I mean what the fark is wrong with them that they support those actions?


Who here has argued that summary execution is acceptable?
 
5 days ago  

jshine: The more you eat the more you fart: Because the police are civilians too correct?

Police are civilians, much as they may like to pretend otherwise by dressing up as Navy SEALS.


I agree.  They need to stop giving cops military equipment so they can play GI Joes with people's lives.
 
5 days ago  

AdmirableSnackbar: Interesting how the small government conservatives are perfectly OK with agents of the state summarily killing citizens for minor offenses with no repercussions.

And by interesting I mean what the fark is wrong with them that they support those actions?


Who says they're citizens?
 
5 days ago  

JerkyMeat: If you want to be a cop there is something wrong with you and you should be eliminated for consideration, based on the fact you wanted be a cop.  And cops are basically criminals hiding behind a badge....so yeah.  go f yourself, cop.


This applies more to politicians than LEOs, in my opinion, but I'm no LEO apologist.

Someone who wants to be President is likely to do the job poorly. (See Clarke's Imperial Earth.)
 
5 days ago  

mrsleep: Ooo, yeah, bring up Micheal Brown, the gentle giant who got shot while fighting with a cop. If you still buy that malarkey, you should dig up the witness reports, hands up don't shoot was bullshiat.


Oh yeah, cops are blameless.  Black people should be face down on the ground with their hands out in front of them and pissing their pants whenever they see a cop.  That assumption is what the bullshiat is.
 
5 days ago  

The more you eat the more you fart: Russ1642: Percise1: Aww! Poor little schnookums...

Ok, blatant murders aside (racist or not), you might consider that there could be other things making you and your LEO culture unpopular. Things like civil asset forfeiture, militarization of the police, 3am no knock raids for little/no reason (don't even mention wrong address), Us and Them mentality, LEOs with power trips/ego issues are some of them.

I've dealt with quite a few cops that were decent to me, more than were not, but those handful of assholes ruined it for everyone. Biggest problem is that good cops don't necessarily stop the farks, they usually protect them as brethren (see Us and Them).

So, the short of it is that yes, many people don't like you or your sheit. You started it, so don't start crying about how unfair things are. Live it from this side and you'd never stop crying.
Better yet; you broke it, you fix it...

/El WD nailed it with that gif

Even police referring to people as civilians makes me shake my head.

Because the police are civilians too correct?


Perhaps we should start referring to them as "Civil Servants".  It is accurate, and would put things on a more civil basis when you are pulled over.

"Hello Civil Servant Thompson. I believe I was following all traffic laws. so how will you be helping me today?"
 
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