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6 days ago  
Gaslighting? Applesauce!

Better 86 that baloney to 23 skidoo!

Now you palookas dangle!
 
6 days ago  
So cute when the public collectively learns a new word, isn't it?
 
6 days ago  
this sort of thing only works on conservatives.  you just don't see things like rush limbaugh or sean hannity on the left wing....but they breed like fungus over there on the right wing.  all that constant hate and bile corrupts the mind and helps make trumpers too angry to think straight.  But they need the anger, without it they'll realize what they've done and all jump off the roof of the nearest building.
 
6 days ago  

Weaver95: But they need the anger, without it they'll realize what they've done and all jump off the roof of the nearest building.


And that would be a bad thing because...?
 
6 days ago  

Weaver95: you just don't see things like rush limbaugh or sean hannity on the left


I think Jane Goodall said it best.
 
6 days ago  
I wonder if Trump's press conference tomorrow will have a live stream.
 
6 days ago  

Hobodeluxe: I wonder if Trump's press conference tomorrow will have a live stream.


Only if PEEOTUS invites the yellow press.
 
6 days ago  

Hobodeluxe: I wonder if Trump's press conference tomorrow will have a live stream.


Live tweeted.  That's actually going to be the entire conference, and he'll answer other tweets he wants to answer.

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6 days ago  

Hobodeluxe: I wonder if Trump's press conference tomorrow will have a live stream.


Now even phrases like "live stream" are going to be double entendres.
 
6 days ago  

downstairs: Hobodeluxe: I wonder if Trump's press conference tomorrow will have a live stream.

Now even phrases like "live stream" are going to be double entendres.


Yeah, it's gonna be fun. The possibilities are endless.

Trump is #1
Trump promises golden parachute to departing staff
Trump praises American ingenuity: "Urination of great people, just the best people"
 
6 days ago  
Taking off on older opinion pieces is so exciting.
 
6 days ago  
It may be uncharitable, but the author appears to be someone who sees a parade and the rushes to march in front of it. Editorials based on Google Trends tend to reflect public opinion without enlightening the public.

This was the same author a little over two months ago.
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And we saw how prescient that was.
 
6 days ago  

Unobtanium: Taking off on older opinion pieces is so exciting.


Came in to say something similar.  CNN is only a month behind Teen Vogue.  Good jorb guys.
 
6 days ago  

Weaver95: But they need the anger, without it they'll realize what they've done and all jump off the roof of the nearest building.


One can hope....
 
6 days ago  
Well. . . .as of Nov. 9th I lost all sense of reality.
 
6 days ago  

Hobodeluxe: I wonder if Trump's press conference tomorrow will have a live stream.


Is that the one where he's finally supposed to say how he's doing away with his conflicts of interest?
Or has that one been postponed.  Again.
 
6 days ago  

HMS_Blinkin: Unobtanium: Taking off on older opinion pieces is so exciting.

Came in to say something similar.  CNN is only a month behind Teen Vogue.  Good jorb guys.


What is more concerning is the Teen Vogue (at least for the past year or so) is better at actual reporting than "news" outlets.

Perhaps there is hope for the young yet!
 
6 days ago  
More like "Death of a Salesman" no,no, "Glass Menagerie", no, no, "Trump is a Farking Narcissistic Racist Fascist Pig" yeah, there ya' go. No need to confuse his base, call it what he is.

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6 days ago  

Unobtanium: Taking off on older opinion pieces is so exciting.


So it's not happening, right? Propaganda and disinformation hasn't gotten more influential in the US and Trump isn't both benefiting from it and engaging it abetted by media? And all that had to happen was for someone to call it by an old cliche. Pretty neat-o.
 
6 days ago  
The trouble is - in the post-truth world, the sword cuts both ways. As Dolan and his fanbois are finding out.
 
6 days ago  

Weaver95: this sort of thing only works on conservatives.  you just don't see things like rush limbaugh or sean hannity on the left wing....but they breed like fungus over there on the right wing.  all that constant hate and bile corrupts the mind and helps make trumpers too angry to think straight.  But they need the anger, without it they'll realize what they've done and all jump off the roof of the nearest building.


I thought it was interesting when there was an interview with a fake news site creator and he said he tried creating fake news for liberals, but he'd always get shot down by fact checking in the comments before it could gain any traction.
 
6 days ago  
Facts, much like America, died on election night. Now both sides will be able to support their positions. Libs will have the unfair lamestream media until he loosens up the libel laws as he promised to prevent them from being critical of him. Trumpets will have Fox, Breitbart, etc. and Trump's Twitter feed to bolster their belief that Trump is the victim of a liberal political witch hunt and fake news.
 
5 days ago  
To the eternal blue flame.....
 
5 days ago  

Munden: So cute when the public collectively learns a new word, isn't it?


They should throw that word under the bus.
 
5 days ago  
Spent over 5 years in a relationship with a Narcissist.  Gaslighting -- really wouldn't wish it on anyone.  It seems almost impossible to understand if you haven't lived it...but having someone you 'trust', and who swears they have you're 'best interests' at heart...then have them slowly make you insane because what they tell you is the truth, and what you actually experience as the truth -- all the while they are telling you 'Know...I know better...you don't know...trust me.'  Kills you slowly, psychologically, and it's not a quick recovery by any means.  A lot of my friends and family don't understand my visceral fear of what Trump is likely going to do --  but they didn't live the nightmare I did...and the sad part is that you don't realize what's happening until you are so deep in your inability to trust your ability to discern fact from fiction until it's so far along you don't know how to get out of where you came from.

We are in for a very long...very mass-psychosis inducing near future.
 
5 days ago  
Make America great again #goldrush
 
5 days ago  

BeatrixK: It seems almost impossible to understand if you haven't lived it...but having someone you 'trust', and who swears they have you're 'best interests' at heart...then have them slowly make you insane because what they tell you is the truth, and what you actually experience as the truth -- all the while they are telling you 'Know...I know better...you don't know...trust me.' Kills you slowly, psychologically, and it's not a quick recovery by any means.


Sounds like the definition of a cult.
 
5 days ago  
How is this not a repeat? Seriously, Teen vogue had this story a month ago, and it was better written.
http://www.teenvogue.com/story/donald-trump-is-gaslighting-america/am​p

Is CNN trying to gaslight Teen Vogue?
 
5 days ago  
Gaslight!

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5 days ago  

Hobodeluxe: I wonder if Trump's press conference tomorrow will have a live stream.


Pretty sure that is confined to a private hotel room.
 
5 days ago  

boxbot2000: Facts, much like America, died on election night. Now both sides will be able to support their positions. Libs will have the unfair lamestream media until he loosens up the libel laws as he promised to prevent them from being critical of him. Trumpets will have Fox, Breitbart, etc. and Trump's Twitter feed to bolster their belief that Trump is the victim of a liberal political witch hunt and fake news.


Libel laws are not really a federal thing. That's almost exclusively state-level jurisdiction. So, Trump can't loosen them up. Buying into the idea that he can, however, just means that wherever you get your information are not particularly useful sources. So, you may want to update that. Then again, that might hurt the pretentiousness of being above "both sides."
 
5 days ago  

Mad_Radhu: Weaver95: this sort of thing only works on conservatives.  you just don't see things like rush limbaugh or sean hannity on the left wing....but they breed like fungus over there on the right wing.  all that constant hate and bile corrupts the mind and helps make trumpers too angry to think straight.  But they need the anger, without it they'll realize what they've done and all jump off the roof of the nearest building.

I thought it was interesting when there was an interview with a fake news site creator and he said he tried creating fake news for liberals, but he'd always get shot down by fact checking in the comments before it could gain any traction.


I think you could probably still do it and get a moderate amount of traction if you used the right topics/tone, but it is harder work, so until there are too many right wing fake news sites for new ones to get any traction then you are probably going to aim for right wing friendly topics for your site.
 
5 days ago  

Munden: So cute when the public collectively learns a new word, isn't it?


Yes, it's very cute.

And then there are those of use raised by a parent with Narcissistic Personality Disorder who experienced gaslighting on a daily basis. For us it's not cute, it's disconcerting, because we all saw it in Trump from the day he became the GOP nominee, and we just waited for everyone else to see it and say, "Oh, hell no."

And now it's so cute to see someone with the same mental health issue as our farked-up parent stepping into the position to run the entire country. It's the farking cutest thing I can farking imagine.
 
5 days ago  
Once again, it's not gaslighting. It's negging to prepare you to get farked.
 
5 days ago  

OooShiny: BeatrixK: It seems almost impossible to understand if you haven't lived it...but having someone you 'trust', and who swears they have you're 'best interests' at heart...then have them slowly make you insane because what they tell you is the truth, and what you actually experience as the truth -- all the while they are telling you 'Know...I know better...you don't know...trust me.' Kills you slowly, psychologically, and it's not a quick recovery by any means.

Sounds like the definition of a cult.


In a weird way-- it kind of is.  My family and friends were continually asking me 'WTF are you still with him? ', given the litany of weird things he'd done -- again...in retrospect, I look back and think 'Serious, girl..WTF were you thinking.'  But a seasoned NARC knows how to manipulate to the point that the most bizarre shiat they pull is either 1.) your fault, 2.) didn't happen the way you understand it to happen, or 3.) flat out denies it happened.  For Example:  My XN had a weird habit of 'disappearing' -- and would leave notes as to why he left. (psychological stress from the custody battle he was in being the most frequent cause he used as an excuse -- which turned out to be covers for gambling trips.)  I would have the actual note he typed before he left, and when he returned...I would ask him about it...literally -- when it was in black and white -- 'You're interpreting it wrong' or 'You are using your filter to shade what I meant.'  Gaslighting seriously sucks hard because the more you try to fight it with the gaslighter...the more they do it!

And it's not an overnight process -- again...very difficult to describe -- and rather embarrassing when you get some distance and see what you put up with just to not anger/disappoint this person who you become 'Stockholm Syndromy' with.

But calling it a cult -- whether it be two people or an entire country...is NOT that far off.
 
5 days ago  

Kome: boxbot2000: Facts, much like America, died on election night. Now both sides will be able to support their positions. Libs will have the unfair lamestream media until he loosens up the libel laws as he promised to prevent them from being critical of him. Trumpets will have Fox, Breitbart, etc. and Trump's Twitter feed to bolster their belief that Trump is the victim of a liberal political witch hunt and fake news.

Libel laws are not really a federal thing. That's almost exclusively state-level jurisdiction. So, Trump can't loosen them up. Buying into the idea that he can, however, just means that wherever you get your information are not particularly useful sources. So, you may want to update that. Then again, that might hurt the pretentiousness of being above "both sides."


You certainly seem to know around being pretentious, I'll give you that. Unfortunately, you're also a terrible internet lawyer. A simple Google search would have taught you about New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964), which establishes an actual malice standard required to establish defamation as to public figures.
 
5 days ago  

BeatrixK: OooShiny: BeatrixK: It seems almost impossible to understand if you haven't lived it...but having someone you 'trust', and who swears they have you're 'best interests' at heart...then have them slowly make you insane because what they tell you is the truth, and what you actually experience as the truth -- all the while they are telling you 'Know...I know better...you don't know...trust me.' Kills you slowly, psychologically, and it's not a quick recovery by any means.

Sounds like the definition of a cult.

In a weird way-- it kind of is.  My family and friends were continually asking me 'WTF are you still with him? ', given the litany of weird things he'd done -- again...in retrospect, I look back and think 'Serious, girl..WTF were you thinking.'  But a seasoned NARC knows how to manipulate to the point that the most bizarre shiat they pull is either 1.) your fault, 2.) didn't happen the way you understand it to happen, or 3.) flat out denies it happened.  For Example:  My XN had a weird habit of 'disappearing' -- and would leave notes as to why he left. (psychological stress from the custody battle he was in being the most frequent cause he used as an excuse -- which turned out to be covers for gambling trips.)  I would have the actual note he typed before he left, and when he returned...I would ask him about it...literally -- when it was in black and white -- 'You're interpreting it wrong' or 'You are using your filter to shade what I meant.'  Gaslighting seriously sucks hard because the more you try to fight it with the gaslighter...the more they do it!

And it's not an overnight process -- again...very difficult to describe -- and rather embarrassing when you get some distance and see what you put up with just to not anger/disappoint this person who you become 'Stockholm Syndromy' with.

But calling it a cult -- whether it be two people or an entire country...is NOT that far off.


I relate to this all too much. You never realize what's happening while it's happening, only after the fact. I think the only reason I managed to get out is that we were in a long-distance relationship. Near 10 years on now, and I'm still putting things back together. The damage done runs so deep and is so insidious.
 
5 days ago  

Arachnophobe: BeatrixK: OooShiny: BeatrixK: It seems almost impossible to understand if you haven't lived it...but having someone you 'trust', and who swears they have you're 'best interests' at heart...then

I relate to this all too much. You never realize what's happening while it's happening, only after the fact. I think the only reason I managed to get out is that we were in a long-distance relationship. Near 10 years on now, and I'm still putting things back together. The damage done runs so deep and is so insidious

.

Yeah -- just because the NARC goes away...their footprint stays around a long damned time.....

/I'm sorry that happened to you.
//Admire you for fighting back -- it's an exceptionally tough row to hoe.
 
5 days ago  

BeatrixK: 'You're interpreting it wrong' or 'You are using your filter to shade what I meant.'


Exactly how Trump tweet-bleated during the campaign in his response to the tsunami of blowback against his heinous, egregious and patently unconstitutional "suggestions."  His suggestions included "the Second Amendment people" fixing the problem of a Hillary win.  He also promised to pay the legal fees of anyone who pummeled a protester at his rallies.

Trump's instinctive response is to first degrade the messenger as unworthy, then dismiss the messenger as "twisting his words" or jealous and finally, if blowback continues, claim it was all just sarcasm.
 
5 days ago  

BeatrixK: Arachnophobe: BeatrixK: OooShiny: BeatrixK: It seems almost impossible to understand if you haven't lived it...but having someone you 'trust', and who swears they have you're 'best interests' at heart...then

I relate to this all too much. You never realize what's happening while it's happening, only after the fact. I think the only reason I managed to get out is that we were in a long-distance relationship. Near 10 years on now, and I'm still putting things back together. The damage done runs so deep and is so insidious.

Yeah -- just because the NARC goes away...their footprint stays around a long damned time.....

/I'm sorry that happened to you.
//Admire you for fighting back -- it's an exceptionally tough row to hoe.


You and I have similar stories.  Took 5 years for me to realize what he'd done to me.  12 years later, it's still a barely healed scar.
 
5 days ago  
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5 days ago  

OooShiny: BeatrixK: 'You're interpreting it wrong' or 'You are using your filter to shade what I meant.'

Exactly how Trump tweet-bleated during the campaign in his response to the tsunami of blowback against his heinous, egregious and patently unconstitutional "suggestions."  His suggestions included "the Second Amendment people" fixing the problem of a Hillary win.  He also promised to pay the legal fees of anyone who pummeled a protester at his rallies.

Trump's instinctive response is to first degrade the messenger as unworthy, then dismiss the messenger as "twisting his words" or jealous and finally, if blowback continues, claim it was all just sarcasm.


You forgot the mafioso-wannabe blowhard stage.
 
5 days ago  

Munden: So cute when the public collectively learns a new word, isn't it?


It's almost as cute as when hipsters remark they were doing something before it was cool.
 
5 days ago  

Munden: So cute when the public collectively learns a new word, isn't it?


It's so Kafkaesque. All it takes is someone with gravitas to state it or enough collective cognitive dissonance.
 
5 days ago  
No Gaslighter.  No Gaslighter.  You're the Gaslighter.
 
5 days ago  
Just stumbled upon this: The Cotton Gaslight

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5 days ago  

lostcat: Munden: So cute when the public collectively learns a new word, isn't it?

Yes, it's very cute.

And then there are those of use raised by a parent with Narcissistic Personality Disorder who experienced gaslighting on a daily basis. For us it's not cute, it's disconcerting, because we all saw it in Trump from the day he became the GOP nominee, and we just waited for everyone else to see it and say, "Oh, hell no."

And now it's so cute to see someone with the same mental health issue as our farked-up parent stepping into the position to run the entire country. It's the farking cutest thing I can farking imagine.


^This.  A thousand times this.
 
5 days ago  

GreatGlavinsGhost: OooShiny: BeatrixK: 'You're interpreting it wrong' or 'You are using your filter to shade what I meant.'

Exactly how Trump tweet-bleated during the campaign in his response to the tsunami of blowback against his heinous, egregious and patently unconstitutional "suggestions."  His suggestions included "the Second Amendment people" fixing the problem of a Hillary win.  He also promised to pay the legal fees of anyone who pummeled a protester at his rallies.

Trump's instinctive response is to first degrade the messenger as unworthy, then dismiss the messenger as "twisting his words" or jealous and finally, if blowback continues, claim it was all just sarcasm.

You forgot the mafioso-wannabe blowhard stage.


And it is all followed up with the "I'm the real victim here" bullshiat.  If you can't play the hero, be the victim.  Either way you get narcissistic supply.
 
5 days ago  

Iggie: lostcat: Munden: So cute when the public collectively learns a new word, isn't it?

Yes, it's very cute.

And then there are those of use raised by a parent with Narcissistic Personality Disorder who experienced gaslighting on a daily basis. For us it's not cute, it's disconcerting, because we all saw it in Trump from the day he became the GOP nominee, and we just waited for everyone else to see it and say, "Oh, hell no."

And now it's so cute to see someone with the same mental health issue as our farked-up parent stepping into the position to run the entire country. It's the farking cutest thing I can farking imagine.

^This.  A thousand times this.

THIS -- cosigned.

I spent 16 years, on and off, being gaslighted by a man I was supposed to marry -- you seriously have no idea what it's like to escape that kind of hell...only to see someone uttering the same phrases, exhibiting the same behaviors, of someone who got off on turning your head inside out.

It's NOT funny -- and I guarantee you -- the aftereffects don't go away when that person is gone.
 
5 days ago  

BeatrixK: I spent 16 years, on and off, being gaslighted by a man I was supposed to marry -- you seriously have no idea what it's like to escape that kind of hell...only to see someone uttering the same phrases, exhibiting the same behaviors, of someone who got off on turning your head inside out.

It's NOT funny -- and I guarantee you -- the aftereffects don't go away when that person is gone.


I have two older half-brothers who are NPD, and they made my family's lives hell.  The older one is overt, in your face and either the most amazing person to have ever lived or the most abused figure since Jesus.The younger one is covert.  He's just a poor, downtrodden, misunderstood soul who only wants people to care about him the way he cares about them.  They both give so much, but never ever get anything in return.  Throughout my life, every toy, every hug, every cent was tallied, and if our mother gave one smidgen more to me or my other full-brother, there was hell to pay.

But the real scapegoat for them was my father, their step-father.  Nothing he did was ever good enough.  No amount of bikes, motorcycles, cars, houses, nothing.  No amount of praise or affection.  I admit that my Dad is a tough cookie, he was raised on a farm in poverty that I can't even imagine.  But he *tried* to be a father to them, and they were having none of it because he, my full-brother and I were forcing them to share my Mom's attention.

The real kick in the nuts came for my father when those two found out that he had a retirement account set up to take care of himself and Mom so they wouldn't be a burden on us kids.  Dad refused to cash it in so that Mom could have direct access, so they decided the only way to get to it was to have Dad declared insane.  That's when the real gaslighting started.  The oldest would tell him awful things about Mom, so that Dad would be forced to confront her.  She would, of course, deny them and ask where he heard them.  He'd tell her, she'd ask the brother, and he would say "I don't know what you are talking about.  I didn't say any such thing.  See?  I told you that Pops was nuts!"  Dad finally had to go to a doctor to get a legal diagnosis that he *wasn't* crazy to keep them from trying to put him away.  He had to do it a second time when Mom died, because they started up the gaslighting again when Dad found out that they had been financially abusing him through her for the last few years of her life.  "We haven't taken a cent from you!  You're just nuts and don't want to accept that you spent it yourself and forgot about it!"

Mom died seven years ago and I'm still spinning from it.  All those years of feeling like I was bad for wanting Mom's affection.  Denying myself things because all of the family's finances were going to bail them out of jail, time and again, or just bail them out of the never-ending crisis they found themselves in.  Bad for wanting an education because they refused to finish high school.

Yeah, it's real funny, isn't it?
 
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