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(LA Times)   Obama's final speech transcript. tl;dr: STFU & GBTW   (latimes.com ) divider line
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6 days ago  
is it just me or was there a real 'this is the end of freedom' vibe to that speech....
 
6 days ago  
I'm really going to miss having an adult in the White House.
 
6 days ago  

Weaver95: is it just me or was there a real 'this is the end of freedom' vibe to that speech....


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6 days ago  
Did he end the speech with his annual promise to close Gitmo?
 
6 days ago  
"...and in closing, good luck with your Siberian Candidate as President."

I wonder if the document released yesterday was correct, that Trump went to Russia to sleep with under age prostitutes.
 
6 days ago  
he had every opportunity to dismantle the Bush era abuses and not only didnt do that but expanded and normalized all of it.

he is as much to blame for whats about to happen as anyone.

that whole admin of laws and transparency he quickly forgot about as soon as he was at the helm
 
6 days ago  
So long.  Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 
6 days ago  
That was pretty good. I'm going to miss hearing presidential speeches for a while Im sure of that.
 
6 days ago  

philotech: Did he end the speech with his annual promise to close Gitmo?


Trump would just reopen it.

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6 days ago  

philotech: Did he end the speech with his annual promise to close Gitmo?


You do realize that he ordered Gitmo to be closed pretty damn early on, but Congress blocked it by refusing to fund it? Without that funding, the best he could've done was release the prisoners into Cuba, which would've been an enormous mess in several ways.
 
6 days ago  
What I wanted was the following:

Welp, Goodbye. You've elected a game show host for your president. You are all farked.
/Drops mic, walks offstage
 
6 days ago  
I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?
 
6 days ago  

edmo: That was pretty good. I'm going to miss hearing presidential speeches for a while Im sure of that.


Things will definitely be different. I'm kinda looking forward to Trump's first state of the union speech. It's sure to be a gem.

/and by gem I mean steaming pile of bullshiat
 
6 days ago  

abhorrent1: philotech: Did he end the speech with his annual promise to close Gitmo?

Trump would just reopen it.

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"Battlefield"???

Christ, what an asshole.
 
6 days ago  
I'm torn...
The only things that have changed for me is my tax rate and health ins premiums & deductibles have all become much more unfavorable.

At least gay rights have improved. Several of my friends have benefitted from that...

Gitmo - no need to close it but just give these guys a trial. What's the harm.
 
6 days ago  

Shryke: I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?


What a brilliant and scathing remark!
Truly a deep thinker. An American Thinker.
 
6 days ago  

tjfly: I'm torn...
The only things that have changed for me is my tax rate and health ins premiums & deductibles have all become much more unfavorable.

At least gay rights have improved. Several of my friends have benefitted from that...

Gitmo - no need to close it but just give these guys a trial. What's the harm.


Wasn't that the courts that made gay marriage a reality?

And, if I remember Obama was against gay marriage during his first Presidential run, as was Hillary.
 
6 days ago  

Shryke: I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?


If he's making a speech, I would assume so.

the only person currently in politics that doesn't use a prompter is Trump and his speeches are a relentless word salad that sound like the guy in your seminar class who skipped the reading but like, totally saw In the Heart of the Sea, so he's all set on Moby Dick, thanks.

teleprompters are used in public speaking to make the speaker look prepared and polished. you know, the complete opposite of our POTUS-elect
 
6 days ago  
After he leaves office, I guess he'll have to pay people to tell him how wonderful he is.  No more taxpayer-funded ego stroking.
 
6 days ago  

SpectroBoy: Shryke: I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?

What a brilliant and scathing remark!
Truly a deep thinker. An American Thinker.


In all fairness, he's horrible without it, and he knows it, so the question is reasonable.
 
6 days ago  

Marshmallow Jones: After he leaves office, I guess he'll have to pay people to tell him how wonderful he is.  No more taxpayer-funded ego stroking.


We're talking about Obama, not Trump.
 
6 days ago  

Cdr.Murdock: tjfly: I'm torn...
The only things that have changed for me is my tax rate and health ins premiums & deductibles have all become much more unfavorable.

At least gay rights have improved. Several of my friends have benefitted from that...

Gitmo - no need to close it but just give these guys a trial. What's the harm.

Wasn't that the courts that made gay marriage a reality?

And, if I remember Obama was against gay marriage during his first Presidential run, as was Hillary.


and then (GASP!) their opinions changed! arguments were made that convinced them otherwise! their viewpoints matured and they were brought in the sparkling new world of the 21st century!

changing your mind and admitting you were wrong isn't a fault.
 
6 days ago  

Shryke: SpectroBoy: Shryke: I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?

What a brilliant and scathing remark!
Truly a deep thinker. An American Thinker.

In all fairness, he's horrible without it, and he knows it, so the question is reasonable.


He's actually a pretty amazing and thoughtful person in those situations, which is what got him elected in the first place.
When anyone shows up to speak words someone else prepared and the teleprompter doesn't work... yeah anyone's screwed.  If teleprompters are your big takeaway from the last 8 years and the single issue you voted on last November, then that's just awesome.
 
6 days ago  

Shryke: SpectroBoy: Shryke: I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?

What a brilliant and scathing remark!
Truly a deep thinker. An American Thinker.

In all fairness, he's horrible without it, and he knows it, so the question is reasonable.


Except for, you know, what you said is entirely false.
 
6 days ago  
Man, the people complaining about Obama really believe that Trump is going to solve their problems.

This is what they actually believe.
 
6 days ago  
The Shiat People don't seem to realize that the harder they try to tarnish Obama's legacy, the more they polish it and make it shine.
Criticism from known, obvious assholes acts like Turtle Wax.
 
6 days ago  

hawks9nkh: Man, the people complaining about Obama really believe that Trump is going to solve their problems.

This is what they actually believe.


Well, since many of the poorer ones will wind up dead or homeless once Herbert Hoover the Second works his economic magic, that's actually true.
 
6 days ago  

Shryke: SpectroBoy: Shryke: I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?

What a brilliant and scathing remark!
Truly a deep thinker. An American Thinker.

In all fairness, he's horrible without it, and he knows it, so the question is reasonable.


Obama is a horrible orator without a TelePrompTer? You seem to know something that no one else does.
I saw him speak without a TelePrompTer in a kind of theatre-in-the-round setting. You might hate the man's politics, but saying he's a "horrible" speaker is ridiculous and makes you look ridiculous.
 
6 days ago  

tjfly: I'm torn...
The only things that have changed for me is my tax rate and health ins premiums & deductibles have all become much more unfavorable.

At least gay rights have improved. Several of my friends have benefitted from that...

Gitmo - no need to close it but just give these guys a trial. What's the harm.


Yeah, nothing's improved in the economy or anything.  You're in luck, because things are going to get much better, I predict.
 
6 days ago  

jso2897: hawks9nkh: Man, the people complaining about Obama really believe that Trump is going to solve their problems.

This is what they actually believe.

Well, since many of the poorer ones will wind up dead or homeless once Herbert Hoover the Second works his economic magic, that's actually true.


Man, the uneducated masses are sure in for a reality check.

Nah, who am I kidding, they'll blame someone else that's poorer.
 
6 days ago  

Marshmallow Jones: After he leaves office, I guess he'll have to pay people to tell him how wonderful he is.  No more taxpayer-funded ego stroking.


Now the ego-stroking of the President will be by order of law upon threats of violence.  Thanks, Trump.
 
6 days ago  
 
6 days ago  

Shryke: SpectroBoy: Shryke: I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?

What a brilliant and scathing remark!
Truly a deep thinker. An American Thinker.

In all fairness, he's horrible without it, and he knows it, so the question is reasonable.


HEY EVERYONE, LOOK AT THIS SMART AND FUNNY GUY RIGHT HERE.
 
6 days ago  
Sure, if you channel energy into thinking about all the promises he made and came up short on you might get angry.  It's not about cherrypicking. 

When you look at the whole picture, who he was as a person and what he brought to the office of president, a mature, calm, intelligent voice, and how he battled with opponents in Washington to push an agenda of normal and safe living for the average person...

If you're still livid after that, I wish you the best with your new president, and hope he brings you safety and security for your family.
 
6 days ago  

tjfly: I'm torn...
The only things that have changed for me is my tax rate and health ins premiums & deductibles have all become much more unfavorable.

At least gay rights have improved. Several of my friends have benefitted from that...

Gitmo - no need to close it but just give these guys a trial. What's the harm.


Gays were granted rights based on the supreme court. Though Obama nominated two justices, there really wasn't much of a liberal shift in his replacements. Souter was conservative but was leaning far more left on gay rights and abortion. Justices often don't vote the way presidents expect them anyway, since they don't have to answer to anyone. It's kinda hard to credit a president on any Justice decision unless he was able to greatly stack the courts in his favor, and justices don't like to retire all at once.
 
6 days ago  

bainsguy: Cdr.Murdock: tjfly: I'm torn...
The only things that have changed for me is my tax rate and health ins premiums & deductibles have all become much more unfavorable.

At least gay rights have improved. Several of my friends have benefitted from that...

Gitmo - no need to close it but just give these guys a trial. What's the harm.

Wasn't that the courts that made gay marriage a reality?

And, if I remember Obama was against gay marriage during his first Presidential run, as was Hillary.

and then (GASP!) their opinions changed! arguments were made that convinced them otherwise! their viewpoints matured and they were brought in the sparkling new world of the 21st century!

changing your mind and admitting you were wrong isn't a fault.


Too bad he changed his mind AFTER his court appointments. Gays dodged a bullet when his nominees voted against Obama's 2008 opinion.
 
6 days ago  

hawks9nkh: Man, the people complaining about Obama really believe that Trump is going to solve their problems.

This is what they actually believe.


Well, like Mom said, reality will have a way of catching up with them.
 
6 days ago  

ChuckRoddy: tjfly: I'm torn...
The only things that have changed for me is my tax rate and health ins premiums & deductibles have all become much more unfavorable.

At least gay rights have improved. Several of my friends have benefitted from that...

Gitmo - no need to close it but just give these guys a trial. What's the harm.

Gays were granted rights based on the supreme court. Though Obama nominated two justices, there really wasn't much of a liberal shift in his replacements. Souter was conservative but was leaning far more left on gay rights and abortion. Justices often don't vote the way presidents expect them anyway, since they don't have to answer to anyone. It's kinda hard to credit a president on any Justice decision unless he was able to greatly stack the courts in his favor, and justices don't like to retire all at once.


Hmmm.. thanks. Very insightful.
 
6 days ago  

ChuckRoddy: bainsguy: Cdr.Murdock: tjfly: I'm torn...
The only things that have changed for me is my tax rate and health ins premiums & deductibles have all become much more unfavorable.

At least gay rights have improved. Several of my friends have benefitted from that...

Gitmo - no need to close it but just give these guys a trial. What's the harm.

Wasn't that the courts that made gay marriage a reality?

And, if I remember Obama was against gay marriage during his first Presidential run, as was Hillary.

and then (GASP!) their opinions changed! arguments were made that convinced them otherwise! their viewpoints matured and they were brought in the sparkling new world of the 21st century!

changing your mind and admitting you were wrong isn't a fault.

Too bad he changed his mind AFTER his court appointments. Gays dodged a bullet when his nominees voted against Obama's 2008 opinion.


ChuckRoddy: Justices often don't vote the way presidents expect them anyway, since they don't have to answer to anyone.


O...k?
 
6 days ago  

Weaver95: is it just me or was there a real 'this is the end of freedom' vibe to that speech....


I thought it was (mostly) honest and heartfelt (it fell on cliches and stereotypes a little more than I would have liked) and it generally hit the right notes, but it never soared the way we all know his speeches can.  If one was expecting him to be Consoler in Chief or to point a concrete way out of the mess we're about to fall headlong into, it was a disappointment.  Then again, it wasn't as dire as it actually could have been, considering the situation, and I don't know whether that's a good or a bad thing.  I think he tried to thread a needle between speaking to the entire country regardless of party or belief system, and laying out a call to action for the center-to-left on the other, and it kind of flattened out or watered down the whole speech.   I wish he'd hammered home the "most important office in a democracy is citizen" point a lot harder; that was important, and it didn't resonate the way he could have made it resonate.  It's a tiny detail in the big picture, but it meant something to me: I liked that in the "For Blacks and other minority groups, that means tying our own very real struggles for justice..." piece, he singled out "transgender American" rather than lumping it in as "LGBTQ person."  Yes, it was still really just using a label as an example among examples in a list, but having him say the full word "transgender" was meaningful.  The speech didn't hinge on it, and I don't mean to suggest at all that it did, but, well, I don't know.
 
6 days ago  

Farking Clown Shoes: I'm really going to miss having an adult in the White House.


Gonna miss the hell out of him.  I hope Trump leaves him alone when this is over, but I get the feeling a man who orders hookers to pee on Obma's bed is not going to be satisfied with just pissing on his legacy, Trump is probably going to want blood.  Maybe just one daughter, not the whole family.   Guess we will find out.

Either way, gonna miss him.
 
5 days ago  

LordJiro: philotech: Did he end the speech with his annual promise to close Gitmo?

You do realize that he ordered Gitmo to be closed pretty damn early on, but Congress blocked it by refusing to fund it? Without that funding, the best he could've done was release the prisoners into Cuba, which would've been an enormous mess in several ways.


I think the real reason it was never closed has to do with what to do with the remaining prisoners; no one wants them on US soil... I wasn't attacking Obama on it, I just got a kick out of hearing him say "this is it, this will be the year" ever year =).
 
5 days ago  

randomarrangement: edmo: That was pretty good. I'm going to miss hearing presidential speeches for a while Im sure of that.

Things will definitely be different. I'm kinda looking forward to Trump's first state of the union speech. It's sure to be a gem.

/and by gem I mean steaming pile of bullshiat


What makes you think he'll give one?

He'll probably hand it off to Pence or Tweet the entire damn thing.
 
5 days ago  
The derp is strong in this thread.
 
5 days ago  
On the bright side..

Um, I got nothing.
 
5 days ago  
For those who can't be bothered to watch the whole thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi0uX2sZuFg
 
5 days ago  

Marshmallow Jones: After he leaves office, I guess he'll have to pay people to tell him how wonderful he is.  No more taxpayer-funded ego stroking.


Given that for the next 4 years at least, he will be compared to his successor and possibly still his predecessor, he won't have to worry much about the public thinking he's wonderful.
 
5 days ago  

Marshmallow Jones: After he leaves office, I guess he'll have to pay people to tell him how wonderful he is.  No more taxpayer-funded ego stroking.


With thousands of other people I waited in line 3 1/2 hours last night to see Obama speak.

With thousands of other people I waited in line 3 1/2 hours in 0 degrees F to get a ticket for this speech.

I met volunteers from the 2008 campaign who took two days off from work to fly in and see the speech.
 
5 days ago  

Shryke: SpectroBoy: Shryke: I wonder if he'll use a TelePrompTer as a civilian?

What a brilliant and scathing remark!
Truly a deep thinker. An American Thinker.

In all fairness, he's horrible without it, and he knows it, so the question is reasonable.


That guy Lincoln was an idiot too, having to read off of a piece of paper to address the crowd at Gettysburg.

/you're a farking idiot
 
5 days ago  

philotech: with the remaining prisoners; no one wants them on US soil


And by "no one" you mean Republcans who blocked administration attempts to bring criminals to trial.

Seven were convicted for the 1993 WTC bombing. Instead of the kind of finality, Republican left Gitmo as an open, endless stain, and a recruiting poster for al Qaeda and ISIS.
 
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