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(Mother Nature Network)   The next time you go to the dentist and intensely feel the cold steel bite of his drill spinning vigorously into your decaying, exposed, cavity-riddled tooth, you can now blame a genetic mutation for why the anesthesia didn't work   ( mnn.com) divider line
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2017-01-11 06:46:53 AM  
For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me.

As a kid, back around 1991 I had to have a filling in one tooth.  The anaesthetic numbed my mouth and I was talking funny. . .but I felt EVERYTHING when the dentist drilled me.  He wouldn't believe that I could feel everything and was shouting at me to stop screaming.  It was very, VERY unpleasant and rather mentally scarring to be forcibly held down by the hygenist while the dentist drills, feeling everything the whole way.

It left me with a life-long fear of dentists and dental work.

I finally went to a dentist last month.  The only other dental work I'd had in my whole life was having my wisdom teeth cut out (because the Army required it), and they knocked me out for that one.  I looked up a dentist that would do sedation dentistry, since I thought I was apparently immune to novocaine and would need to be knocked out to do anything to me.

They did a little test.  Nope, not immune.  They were able to do all the dental work I really, really needed with just a local, and I feel a helluva lot better afterwards.  It turns out that small-town dentist was just really incompetent and didn't numb the right part of my mouth, and refused to try again or believe me when I was basically telling him he missed with the first injection.
 
OOF
2017-01-11 09:32:56 AM  
Is it safe?
 
2017-01-11 09:36:07 AM  
A man goes to the doctor for a prostate exam, but is worried that it will hurt. The doctor says "want me to numb it up for you?" and the man says "yes, please."

Then the doctor sticks his face in the man's butt and goes "num num num"
 
2017-01-11 09:37:58 AM  

HailRobonia: A man goes to the doctor for a prostate exam, but is worried that it will hurt. The doctor says "want me to numb it up for you?" and the man says "yes, please."

Then the doctor sticks his face in the man's butt and goes "num num num"


Thread's over.
 
2017-01-11 09:37:59 AM  
You know what's fun?  Discovering you're immune to local at the beginning of a vasectomy.

/Uh, no we're not going to continue, thank you very much.
//Knock me the fark out.
///Didn't want to be awake for it anyway
////super glad I live where this covered by socialist health care.
 
2017-01-11 09:40:18 AM  
www.chud.com
 
2017-01-11 09:41:10 AM  
Articaine is an amazing anesthetic. Any patient that states they have trouble getting numb gets a cartridge of Articaine. No problem.
 
2017-01-11 09:42:28 AM  

OOF: Is it safe?


Is what safe?...

While I'm not immune to it, I have a very high tolerance for it. Drives my dentist nuts, the amount of novocaine he uses on me.
 
2017-01-11 09:42:32 AM  
Genetic mutation?  I like to think of it as a "Super Power"

The man who felt noall pain, as it were.
 
2017-01-11 09:43:19 AM  

Rihlsul: You know what's fun?  Discovering you're immune to local at the beginning of a vasectomy.

/Uh, no we're not going to continue, thank you very much.
//Knock me the fark out.
///Didn't want to be awake for it anyway
////super glad I live where this covered by socialist health care.


Same here. I was good up until he cut the first vas. I felt that. Completely.
 
2017-01-11 09:44:38 AM  

Silverstaff: For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me.

As a kid, back around 1991 I had to have a filling in one tooth.  The anaesthetic numbed my mouth and I was talking funny. . .but I felt EVERYTHING when the dentist drilled me.  He wouldn't believe that I could feel everything and was shouting at me to stop screaming.  It was very, VERY unpleasant and rather mentally scarring to be forcibly held down by the hygenist while the dentist drills, feeling everything the whole way.

It left me with a life-long fear of dentists and dental work.

I finally went to a dentist last month.  The only other dental work I'd had in my whole life was having my wisdom teeth cut out (because the Army required it), and they knocked me out for that one.  I looked up a dentist that would do sedation dentistry, since I thought I was apparently immune to novocaine and would need to be knocked out to do anything to me.

They did a little test.  Nope, not immune.  They were able to do all the dental work I really, really needed with just a local, and I feel a helluva lot better afterwards.  It turns out that small-town dentist was just really incompetent and didn't numb the right part of my mouth, and refused to try again or believe me when I was basically telling him he missed with the first injection.


I keep telling my dentists that it never works and that I can feel everything. They keep saying that I'm lying and to stop pretending that I can feel the pain..

One dentist even injected me 3 times in one go, didn't work. Bastard had the cheek to charge me for the 3 injections at £50 a pop. And that was 30 years ago..
 
2017-01-11 09:44:40 AM  
Old news. Redheads have this issue

/num num
 
2017-01-11 09:46:26 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-01-11 09:48:15 AM  
Cold?
 
2017-01-11 09:50:23 AM  

Silverstaff: For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me.

As a kid, back around 1991 I had to have a filling in one tooth.  The anaesthetic numbed my mouth and I was talking funny. . .but I felt EVERYTHING when the dentist drilled me.  He wouldn't believe that I could feel everything and was shouting at me to stop screaming.  It was very, VERY unpleasant and rather mentally scarring to be forcibly held down by the hygenist while the dentist drills, feeling everything the whole way.

It left me with a life-long fear of dentists and dental work.

I finally went to a dentist last month.  The only other dental work I'd had in my whole life was having my wisdom teeth cut out (because the Army required it), and they knocked me out for that one.  I looked up a dentist that would do sedation dentistry, since I thought I was apparently immune to novocaine and would need to be knocked out to do anything to me.

They did a little test.  Nope, not immune.  They were able to do all the dental work I really, really needed with just a local, and I feel a helluva lot better afterwards.  It turns out that small-town dentist was just really incompetent and didn't numb the right part of my mouth, and refused to try again or believe me when I was basically telling him he missed with the first injection.


I had the same happen as well. Incompetent family dentist that was also a family friend. Had multiple procedures where I wasn't numb enough, explained with "well, it doesn't work for some people".

Dumbfark also "fixed" two metal fillings by surrounding them with the resin, rather than drilling out the old filling and putting a new one in. Ended up needing root canals for those teeth. Following dentist said that he's never seen something like that.
 
2017-01-11 09:50:26 AM  
The first dentist that I liked listened to me when I said I usually feel pain when I have work done. She did a cold swab that tests if you have been numbed properly by pressing a small bit of cloth soaked in a chemical that feels cold when it's pressed against a tooth. She would use that and hit me with more novocain until I couldn't feel the swab. it took her a few tries, but it was the first time I felt at ease with a dentist.
 
2017-01-11 09:54:07 AM  
It's not just locals.  Imagine the joy of learning you're immune to Versed during a spinal procedure.
 
2017-01-11 09:54:55 AM  
My dentist is not the least bit stingy with the gas. Getting a single filling? Gas me. I rather dislike dental work, but the gas at least makes it bearable.
 
Ant
2017-01-11 09:59:38 AM  

OOF: Is it safe?


Is it secret?
 
2017-01-11 10:05:15 AM  

MythDragon: My dentist is not the least bit stingy with the gas. Getting a single filling? Gas me. I rather dislike dental work, but the gas at least makes it bearable.


Huh. The gas is the one thing that has yet to have an effect on me. I've asked them plenty of times to "turn up the juice" but, they say that they can't do it. It doesn't even take the edge off of me. I, too had a couple of bad experiences with dental work as a kid and I have an anxiety attack every time I have to go.
 
2017-01-11 10:05:32 AM  
Novocaine wears off super fast at the dentist and ive had problems with morphine being ineffective when ive gone to the ER but dilaudid seems to work great.

really great.

really really great.
 
2017-01-11 10:05:42 AM  

dragonchild: Cold?


For me, yes. It's like a pin point laser beam of cold right at my tooth.

My last filling, the doctor completely numbed the main nerve to my jaw in the back of my mouth. It did the trick and we were able to pull through it without issue.
 
2017-01-11 10:06:21 AM  

RJReves: [www.chud.com image 500x284]


You're singing my tune.
 
2017-01-11 10:07:13 AM  
I have been terrified of dentists my whole life.  Parents took me to a pediatric dentist.  While I'm sure he was a nice guy, I had paroxysms because they wouldn't let family members be nearby while he worked.  It wouldn't have been so bad except the dentist was so casual about it.  He made lighthearted quips and spoke in this lilting voice I can still remember today.  I'm sure he was only trying to be reassuring, but it just made me feel worse, like he thought the whole thing was a lark.  Hey, I was like eight years old.  What the Fark did I know.

It's probably the law somewhere, because I couldn't have a family member nearby either during wisdom teeth surgery.  Except that time I was asking the surgeon questions about the surgery, and he finally said real snotty tome, What's your bottom line here?  Get to the point.

I flipped my shiat and refused to let them touch me.  That's one benefit of being an adult.  If you decide you don't want a procedure done, they aren't going to goddamn force you.  Just farking try it.  I could use the lawsuit money.  >:/

Still haven't had the wisdom teeth pulled, but in the spirit of adulting, I accept that I could have done something a long time ago and didn't, should my teeth go awry because of it.

Yay adulting.
 
2017-01-11 10:10:12 AM  

Silverstaff: For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me.

As a kid, back around 1991 I had to have a filling in one tooth.  The anaesthetic numbed my mouth and I was talking funny. . .but I felt EVERYTHING when the dentist drilled me.  He wouldn't believe that I could feel everything and was shouting at me to stop screaming.  It was very, VERY unpleasant and rather mentally scarring to be forcibly held down by the hygenist while the dentist drills, feeling everything the whole way.

It left me with a life-long fear of dentists and dental work.

I finally went to a dentist last month.  The only other dental work I'd had in my whole life was having my wisdom teeth cut out (because the Army required it), and they knocked me out for that one.  I looked up a dentist that would do sedation dentistry, since I thought I was apparently immune to novocaine and would need to be knocked out to do anything to me.

They did a little test.  Nope, not immune.  They were able to do all the dental work I really, really needed with just a local, and I feel a helluva lot better afterwards.  It turns out that small-town dentist was just really incompetent and didn't numb the right part of my mouth, and refused to try again or believe me when I was basically telling him he missed with the first injection.


I think I am immune to novacaine.  My dad is as well and we both had different dentists (I have actually had a couple and I could never get numbed) so it is a genetic thing (thanks dad!).

It has left me with crippling anxiety for dentistry.  Even a normal checkup/cleaning I will get anxious.  I went to the dentist for the first time in about 2 years on Monday and I need some cavities drilled, crowns, and a gingivitis treatment.   Due to my insurance I can only get the treatment and the cavities taken care of this year and next year will have to get the crowns.  I will only get sedation treatment now.

I also had braces (and have a permanent bottom retainer) so that doubled the fun!  Before the braces I had a tooth coming down through the gums above another one and another hole in my gums where you could see an impacted tooth, a major overbite and crossed incisors.
 
2017-01-11 10:11:08 AM  
Geeze subs thanks for the imagery.
Danzig - I Don't Mind The Pain
Youtube aDjXglWTZ4k
 
2017-01-11 10:12:49 AM  
Ligajet.  Works for me.
 
2017-01-11 10:12:58 AM  

Silverstaff: For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me.

...since I thought I was apparently immune to novocaine and would need to be knocked out to do anything to me.


The anesthetic they are using now is different. Novocaine was used more in the past and it's probable that Novocaine is ineffective for you but Lidocaine does work. I think most dentists transitioned to lidocaine based injections a decade ago. I haven't seen Novocaine used for a long time and the newer injections seem to work better for me.

And if your parents let you have an aspirin and a soda that might have changed how the anesthetic worked for you. For many people (myself included) the combination of aspirin (possibly other NSAIDs) and caffeine can nearly completely block the effectiveness of local anesthetics. I learned that after having aspirin and coffee before going to the dentist as an adult.

Also I have some red hair genetics in my background which means a lot of anesthetics may lack punch. I kind of wonder what the heck my ancestors were eating to make that a useful gene.
 
2017-01-11 10:13:39 AM  
It works for me, but it takes an unusually long time to kick in.
They really ought to let me go and read a magazine or something for awhile after the injection.
 
2017-01-11 10:18:58 AM  

Burr: Silverstaff: For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me.

As a kid, back around 1991 I had to have a filling in one tooth.  The anaesthetic numbed my mouth and I was talking funny. . .but I felt EVERYTHING when the dentist drilled me.  He wouldn't believe that I could feel everything and was shouting at me to stop screaming.  It was very, VERY unpleasant and rather mentally scarring to be forcibly held down by the hygenist while the dentist drills, feeling everything the whole way.

It left me with a life-long fear of dentists and dental work.

I finally went to a dentist last month.  The only other dental work I'd had in my whole life was having my wisdom teeth cut out (because the Army required it), and they knocked me out for that one.  I looked up a dentist that would do sedation dentistry, since I thought I was apparently immune to novocaine and would need to be knocked out to do anything to me.

They did a little test.  Nope, not immune.  They were able to do all the dental work I really, really needed with just a local, and I feel a helluva lot better afterwards.  It turns out that small-town dentist was just really incompetent and didn't numb the right part of my mouth, and refused to try again or believe me when I was basically telling him he missed with the first injection.

I think I am immune to novacaine.  My dad is as well and we both had different dentists (I have actually had a couple and I could never get numbed) so it is a genetic thing (thanks dad!).

It has left me with crippling anxiety for dentistry.  Even a normal checkup/cleaning I will get anxious.  I went to the dentist for the first time in about 2 years on Monday and I need some cavities drilled, crowns, and a gingivitis treatment.   Due to my insurance I can only get the treatment and the cavities taken care of this year and next year will have to get the crowns.  I will only get sedation treatment now.

I also had braces (and have a permanent bottom retainer) so tha ...


ive woken up with the dentists knee being used for leverage on the armrest as they try yanking a wisdom tooth out which they had already split with a chisel.

and i was told i am at the maximum dose based on my weight and the tooth was halfway out so just gimme a couple more minutes....
 
2017-01-11 10:19:49 AM  

garandman1a: OOF: Is it safe?

Is what safe?...

While I'm not immune to it, I have a very high tolerance for it. Drives my dentist nuts, the amount of novocaine he uses on me.


I have an extremely high tolerance as well. I've had a handful of dentist's tell me that they couldn't by law give me anymore, and I just tell them to go ahead, and I go to my happy place while I feel EVERYTHING.
 
2017-01-11 10:24:21 AM  

The Lurker at Your Threshold: RJReves: [www.chud.com image 500x284]

You're singing my tune.


Enjoyed the original movie
Really loved the musical remake
Saw a stage production, way the Fark off Broadway. Quite enjoyable. Audrey 2 was rather cheesy..
 
2017-01-11 10:24:54 AM  
I'll take a filling any day rather than a clotted hemmorrhoid excision. Thankfully local anesthetics are functional for me but there's still like a shadow of the feeling for either procedure and the shadow of the feeling of jellied blood getting squeezed out of a venous balloon in the ass is somehow much worse than the pressure and buzz of a drill in the tooth.

Some days plants and fungi are lucky for their lack of a nervous system from an animals perspective.
 
2017-01-11 10:27:44 AM  

A Vain Tangent: I'll take a filling any day rather than a clotted hemmorrhoid excision. Thankfully local anesthetics are functional for me but there's still like a shadow of the feeling for either procedure and the shadow of the feeling of jellied blood getting squeezed out of a venous balloon in the ass is somehow much worse than the pressure and buzz of a drill in the tooth.

Some days plants and fungi are lucky for their lack of a nervous system from an animals perspective.


img.fark.net
 
2017-01-11 10:28:35 AM  
When I was a kid, I had 7 teeth pulled.  One tooth a week for 7 weeks.  By the last tooth, the novocaine had no effect, I guess I became tolerant.  They ended up giving me 4 shots, but nothing, so they said fark it and just yanked with the pliers and I felt everything.  It was a permanent molar, so that thing was in there good.  Took a whole lot of twisting and yanking to get it out.  Dentists are sadists.
 
2017-01-11 10:31:08 AM  
I have never had an anesthetic for a filling. Are your dentists incompetent or don't they deal with cavities until they hit the nerve or something?
 
2017-01-11 10:35:27 AM  
You Americans are big Pussies. In Soviet Russia we did not use no anesthetics on teeth drilling! And the drill was so large that when the comrade dentist drilled -- it sounded like a jackhammer. And painful. And when I (then a nine-year-old kid) raised hands in pain, the dental torturer was screaming, "PUT YOUR HANDS DOWN! OR ELSE I'LL DRILL THROUGH YOUR TONGE!" My parents made me visit dentist rather frequently, and in that big room there were many procedures going on at once. But I never seen them tie anyone hands down on anyone, even when they were pulling teeth. They scare you in submission.
 
2017-01-11 10:38:35 AM  

DerAppie: I have never had an anesthetic for a filling.

img.fark.net

 
2017-01-11 10:39:18 AM  
I'm fortunate my only major dental surgery was for my wisdom teeth. The general anesthetic they gave me knocked me out almost immediately. I vaguely remember the assistant counting down from ten and then waking up an hour or so later confused where I was.
 
2017-01-11 10:41:05 AM  

Bluemoons: garandman1a: OOF: Is it safe?

Is what safe?...

While I'm not immune to it, I have a very high tolerance for it. Drives my dentist nuts, the amount of novocaine he uses on me.

I have an extremely high tolerance as well. I've had a handful of dentist's tell me that they couldn't by law give me anymore, and I just tell them to go ahead, and I go to my happy place while I feel EVERYTHING.


I got in the habit of digging my fingernail into my thumb while getting drilled, just something to take my mind off of the pain.

/the smell of burning bone still haunts me.
 
2017-01-11 10:42:06 AM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: MythDragon: My dentist is not the least bit stingy with the gas. Getting a single filling? Gas me. I rather dislike dental work, but the gas at least makes it bearable.

Huh. The gas is the one thing that has yet to have an effect on me. I've asked them plenty of times to "turn up the juice" but, they say that they can't do it. It doesn't even take the edge off of me. I, too had a couple of bad experiences with dental work as a kid and I have an anxiety attack every time I have to go.


You have to breath it in through your nose or it won't work. Maybe they are just giving you only oxy? It should have a peculiar smell to it.

You want anxiety? Try going to a dentist just across from a Firestone when you're young and have them fire up the impact wrench just as you go in. *WRRRRRRRRR CHAKCHAKCHAKCHAK WRRRRRRRRR* "AAAAAAAGH what the hell is that?"
 
2017-01-11 10:42:50 AM  

Silverstaff: For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me....


Reminds me of my childhood dentist (now retired).  I had many cavities/fillings growing up.  I was never afraid of the dentist, but I definitely got used to it hurting quite a bit (even with anesthetic).  There were several times where I'd raise my hand to indicate pain and I was told "oh, I'm almost done" and had to suck it up for the rest.

Fast forward to recent years when I've had to get a root canal and other work.  I mentioned to the doc as he was about to inject me that I recall things being painful in the past.  He decided to test prior to starting the drilling.  It hurt, so we waited a couple extra minutes.  Surprise, no pain at all.  (Also found out I had 5 roots in the one tooth, so I'm a mutant.)
 
2017-01-11 10:48:29 AM  
How I feel about dentists
Little Shop of Horrors - Dentist Song
Youtube bOtMizMQ6oM
 
2017-01-11 10:48:43 AM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: [img.fark.net image 223x226]


For many years now whenever I have a dental procedure which requires anesthesia of any kind I ask them to give me the short duration stuff. I find the numbness far more annoying than the dull ache of the procedure. It usually wears off in about 1-2 hours at most. OTC meds take care of any pain.

You should be able to ask for it.
 
2017-01-11 10:53:44 AM  
I always thought that my dentist was just a cheap bastard that watered down the anesthetic. I bit the old SOB more then once.
 
2017-01-11 10:55:11 AM  
I hate dentists. Was way sick as a kid. All my teeth are crap from antibiotics damaging the enamel.

Really looking forward to this http://www.sciencealert.com/this-new-drug-can-regenerate-teeth-possibl​y-reducing-the-need-for-man-made-fillings
 
2017-01-11 10:56:56 AM  

MythDragon: Eli WhiskeyDik: MythDragon: My dentist is not the least bit stingy with the gas. Getting a single filling? Gas me. I rather dislike dental work, but the gas at least makes it bearable.

Huh. The gas is the one thing that has yet to have an effect on me. I've asked them plenty of times to "turn up the juice" but, they say that they can't do it. It doesn't even take the edge off of me. I, too had a couple of bad experiences with dental work as a kid and I have an anxiety attack every time I have to go.

You have to breath it in through your nose or it won't work. Maybe they are just giving you only oxy? It should have a peculiar smell to it.

You want anxiety? Try going to a dentist just across from a Firestone when you're young and have them fire up the impact wrench just as you go in. *WRRRRRRRRR CHAKCHAKCHAKCHAK WRRRRRRRRR* "AAAAAAAGH what the hell is that?"


Yes, it does come in through the nose. The apparatus that they put on my only goes over the nose.
I larfed at the Firestone story. That would have sent me running and screaming out of that dentist office.
 
2017-01-11 11:00:43 AM  
I'm about to get a tooth pulled in a week (was hoping for just a root canal, but the tooth has a crack running down the length of it on the inside), so I'm getting a kick out of this...

/Good thing I can't feel it
//Drinking coffee after dentalwork is weird
///I can only feel the slashies on one side of my face
 
2017-01-11 11:01:50 AM  

OdradekRex: It's not just locals.  Imagine the joy of learning you're immune to Versed during a spinal procedure.


I guess after getting a few more shots of it, you know how much it takes. You could say you're well-versed in it.
 
2017-01-11 11:02:56 AM  

Giltric: Burr: Silverstaff: For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me.

As a kid, back around 1991 I had to have a filling in one tooth.  The anaesthetic numbed my mouth and I was talking funny. . .but I felt EVERYTHING when the dentist drilled me.  He wouldn't believe that I could feel everything and was shouting at me to stop screaming.  It was very, VERY unpleasant and rather mentally scarring to be forcibly held down by the hygenist while the dentist drills, feeling everything the whole way.

It left me with a life-long fear of dentists and dental work.

I finally went to a dentist last month.  The only other dental work I'd had in my whole life was having my wisdom teeth cut out (because the Army required it), and they knocked me out for that one.  I looked up a dentist that would do sedation dentistry, since I thought I was apparently immune to novocaine and would need to be knocked out to do anything to me.

They did a little test.  Nope, not immune.  They were able to do all the dental work I really, really needed with just a local, and I feel a helluva lot better afterwards.  It turns out that small-town dentist was just really incompetent and didn't numb the right part of my mouth, and refused to try again or believe me when I was basically telling him he missed with the first injection.

I think I am immune to novacaine.  My dad is as well and we both had different dentists (I have actually had a couple and I could never get numbed) so it is a genetic thing (thanks dad!).

It has left me with crippling anxiety for dentistry.  Even a normal checkup/cleaning I will get anxious.  I went to the dentist for the first time in about 2 years on Monday and I need some cavities drilled, crowns, and a gingivitis treatment.   Due to my insurance I can only get the treatment and the cavities taken care of this year and next year will have to get the crowns.  I will only get sedation treatment now.

I also had braces (and have a permanent bottom retainer) so tha ...

ive woken up with the dentists knee being used for leverage on the armrest as they try yanking a wisdom tooth out which they had already split with a chisel.

and i was told i am at the maximum dose based on my weight and the tooth was halfway out so just gimme a couple more minutes....


When I was 20 I had a wisdom tooth chiseled out with only shots in the gum.  It didnt hurt much but the pressure of the dentist banging on my tooth was unreal.  That experience put me off dentists for 20 years unfortunately.

I finally went back after cracking a tooth on a chicken bone.  I ended up getting 4 crowns over the span of a month and one filling.  Local shots only for anesthetic.  Five hours awake in the chair while they prepped the teeth for the crowns.  Im lucky after all those years that was all they had to do.

The new dentist is a really nice woman with good bedside manner.  Everyone in that office is pretty awesome.  Will not be neglecting oral health ever again.

/Ill take the shots over gas as I fortunately respond well to them.
//dental tech has really come a long way. I think the crowns were 3D printed at the lab.
 
2017-01-11 11:05:51 AM  
Dental phobic here too. Except it's not just phobia, it's actually pain. Wish I could remember this one pill I was given once. It was great. Literally felt nothing.
 
2017-01-11 11:13:01 AM  
Anesthetics work on me, but it wears off pretty quickly.  A second or third shot is not unusual, and four is my personal best.  Dentist said the reason was I have a very healthy liver, which I'm sure puts me in the minority around here.
 
2017-01-11 11:14:48 AM  

Silverstaff: For ~25 years I thought dental anaesthetics had no effect on me.

As a kid, back around 1991 I had to have a filling in one tooth.  The anaesthetic numbed my mouth and I was talking funny. . .but I felt EVERYTHING when the dentist drilled me.  He wouldn't believe that I could feel everything and was shouting at me to stop screaming.  It was very, VERY unpleasant and rather mentally scarring to be forcibly held down by the hygenist while the dentist drills, feeling everything the whole way.

It left me with a life-long fear of dentists and dental work.

I finally went to a dentist last month.  The only other dental work I'd had in my whole life was having my wisdom teeth cut out (because the Army required it), and they knocked me out for that one.  I looked up a dentist that would do sedation dentistry, since I thought I was apparently immune to novocaine and would need to be knocked out to do anything to me.

They did a little test.  Nope, not immune.  They were able to do all the dental work I really, really needed with just a local, and I feel a helluva lot better afterwards.  It turns out that small-town dentist was just really incompetent and didn't numb the right part of my mouth, and refused to try again or believe me when I was basically telling him he missed with the first injection.


Same exact thing happened to me.  With the caveat that I actually needed quite a bit more freezing than the average person (which new dentist was happy to oblige).  I am in the process of getting all of my teeth fixed up because of this, and what a relief it is to be able to chew without worry.

I want to go back and kick that monster in the shins.  I was a kid!  It was brutal.
 
2017-01-11 11:15:25 AM  
I have always had trouble and so has my Mom.  I always felt everything at the dentist, even after 4 or 5 shots of Novocaine.  I once woke up during deviated septum surgery and felt the guy chiseling down the cartilage in my nose.  Couldn't move or talk...but you would think tears running down my face would have been a clue.  Doctor didn't believe me afterwards until I told him about his golf conversation with the anesthesiologist.  Boy did he look scared then!  I am also awake on the way to surgery even though they always give you something ahead of time.  Was scared shiatless when I had to have a hysterectomy!  Thankfully I was out!

On a side note...I had my wisdom teeth removed and got a letter three months later that the oral surgeon had died of AIDS.  He was living a double life.
 
2017-01-11 11:19:55 AM  
OR you can realize that not all dentists really know what they are doing when it comes to Anesthesia.
Most just jam the needle in and flood the area but most will just affect the nerves to your face.
(Someone had to graduate in the lower 50% of the class)

I had a dentist that would get mad because he would inject me 4 or 5 times and the drill still hurt.

I had good dentists back in the 90's and just found one that knows how to administer Anesthesia.  He just uses one, maybe two, injections and the only thing that gets numb is my teeth and guns.  My cheeks still have feeling.
 
2017-01-11 11:21:22 AM  

darthaegis: OR you can realize that not all dentists really know what they are doing when it comes to Anesthesia.
Most just jam the needle in and flood the area but most will just affect the nerves to your face.
(Someone had to graduate in the lower 50% of the class)

I had a dentist that would get mad because he would inject me 4 or 5 times and the drill still hurt.

I had good dentists back in the 90's and just found one that knows how to administer Anesthesia.  He just uses one, maybe two, injections and the only thing that gets numb is my teeth and guns.  My cheeks still have feeling.


~sigh~....  GUMS... the only things that get numb are my teeth and my GUMS...
 
2017-01-11 11:22:05 AM  
As a redhead, with at least five [5] horror stories about local anesthetic and general anesthesia not working at all, I'm glad this is being researched more. No medical professional believed my agony (despite breaking an ER PA's rib while he attempted to stitch my face). Had no idea being resistant was a possibility until I was 16 having my wisdom teeth removed, did not go under after two doses of general anesthesia,  the dentist advised there was research on redhead resistance to anesthetic/anesthesia/pain killers which he had just read about but had yet to witness in office... "Pain is what the patient says it is," I followed that religiously as an EMT due to my experiences.
 
2017-01-11 11:28:46 AM  
CSB: I had a small filling done without. It ended up a little bigger than the dentist thought it would be but I was going to lunch afterward so I toughed it out. I'm really on the fence about doing that again.
 
2017-01-11 11:36:50 AM  

amindtat: Rihlsul: You know what's fun?  Discovering you're immune to local at the beginning of a vasectomy.

/Uh, no we're not going to continue, thank you very much.
//Knock me the fark out.
///Didn't want to be awake for it anyway
////super glad I live where this covered by socialist health care.

Same here. I was good up until he cut the first vas. I felt that. Completely.


Try bilateral orchiectomy.  Luckily, I'm not completely immune; just highly resistant, so I was partially numbed, but still...yeah.  Thank goodness for the power of pre-procedure Xanax.
 
2017-01-11 11:37:05 AM  

OOF: Is it safe?


I understood that reference.
img.fark.net
 
2017-01-11 11:45:59 AM  

Silverstaff: They did a little test.  Nope, not immune.  They were able to do all the dental work I really, really needed with just a local, and I feel a helluva lot better afterwards.  It turns out that small-town dentist was just really incompetent and didn't numb the right part of my mouth, and refused to try again or believe me when I was basically telling him he missed with the first injection.


My dentist is genius at hitting the right spot. Apparently there's a single nerve root that will flat-out kill the lower half of your head.
 
2017-01-11 12:02:32 PM  
A few years ago I heard somewhere that those who are of a Ginger disposition, generally needs 1.5 times the amount of anaesthetic as other, normal, less-blessed humans.

Not long after this I underwent a relatively routine operation where I would be conscious. I remarked about this possibility to the doctor who would be carrying out the procedure, and he replied that he'd never heard of that before. He administered the usual amount of anaestheitic and left it a while to take effect, when he check to see if I was numb, I wasn't, and I really didn't want him to put his scalpel anywhere near my... area if there was a possibility of me feeling it, so he topped me up with another half dose and hey presto, numb plums. If I hadn't told him about what I'd heard, I'd probably still be limping now.

Hail Gingers.
 
2017-01-11 12:03:44 PM  
Whenever a local anesthetic doesn't work I assume it's because I did something wrong while administering it. Now I can just blame it on the patient's crummy genes;).

I received "Novocain" as a kid then learned as a resident that Novocain was a brand name for procaine, the first artificial local anesthetic, which had a duration of 20-30 minutes.  I went back to see my childhood dentist and asked him and he confessed that he, like most dentists, used the term Novocain as kind of a generic name for any local anesthetic.  The drug he usually gave me was bupivacaine, which explains the 2-3 hour duration of numbness and talking like Kramer at the Able Mentally Challenged Adults banquet.

I don't have any strange resistances to anesthetics of any kind but I do fear that I am wired up funny.  If I get a single alveolar block from a dentist the numbness extends across the midline and to both upper and lower teeth.  This explains some of the pain I've had during dental procedures.
 
2017-01-11 12:13:08 PM  
My dentists have always had to blast me with what-everocain to numb me up, and if it took a bit they had to re-blast me (my shattered teeth from an accident were REALLY fun).  Have had minor surgery and in the middle said "you know that local is wearing off real fast now, could you please stop cutting my flesh?".

That mutation SUCKS!
 
2017-01-11 12:15:11 PM  

Burr: Bluemoons: garandman1a: OOF: Is it safe?

Is what safe?...

While I'm not immune to it, I have a very high tolerance for it. Drives my dentist nuts, the amount of novocaine he uses on me.

I have an extremely high tolerance as well. I've had a handful of dentist's tell me that they couldn't by law give me anymore, and I just tell them to go ahead, and I go to my happy place while I feel EVERYTHING.

I got in the habit of digging my fingernail into my thumb while getting drilled, just something to take my mind off of the pain.

/the smell of burning bone still haunts me.


God I hate that smell. I'm familiar with the finger nail thing too. Anything is better than feeling that drill boring through your nerves.  *shudder*
 
2017-01-11 12:32:26 PM  

Bluemoons: Burr: Bluemoons: garandman1a: OOF: Is it safe?

Is what safe?...

While I'm not immune to it, I have a very high tolerance for it. Drives my dentist nuts, the amount of novocaine he uses on me.

I have an extremely high tolerance as well. I've had a handful of dentist's tell me that they couldn't by law give me anymore, and I just tell them to go ahead, and I go to my happy place while I feel EVERYTHING.

I got in the habit of digging my fingernail into my thumb while getting drilled, just something to take my mind off of the pain.

/the smell of burning bone still haunts me.

God I hate that smell. I'm familiar with the finger nail thing too. Anything is better than feeling that drill boring through your nerves.  *shudder*


The smell and tooth dust getting on your face.
 
2017-01-11 12:34:51 PM  

hoyt clagwell: ...  I went back to see my childhood dentist and asked him and he confessed that he, like most dentists, used the term Novocain as kind of a generic name for any local anesthetic.  The drug he usually gave me was bupivacaine, which explains the 2-3 hour duration of numbness ...


bupivacaine/marcaine is common and also very cardiotoxic. you miss a couple shots and you can cause death.

Lidocaine is pretty much foolproof, lasts just as long and you can pump a gallon into someone without hurting them.
 
2017-01-11 12:40:15 PM  
I...I I, have become, comfortably numb......
 
2017-01-11 12:45:57 PM  

HailRobonia: A man goes to the doctor for a prostate exam, but is worried that it will hurt. The doctor says "want me to numb it up for you?" and the man says "yes, please."

Then the doctor sticks his face in the man's butt and goes "num num num"


The one I heard was told to me by a female and it was a gynecologist...
 
2017-01-11 12:54:30 PM  

Bluemoons: God I hate that smell. I'm familiar with the finger nail thing too. Anything is better than feeling that drill boring through your nerves.  *shudder*



I've always had the pleasure of being able to watch my root canals on a tv screen. Interesting stuff. Up thread someone mentioned 5 roots, ditto for me on a back molar. Doc was really worried about losing the file because of the angle. I asked him what does he do if that happens? Answer: Jaw surgery. Whoops...

The last RC I had my doc was burnishing my temp crown to shape it. I involuntarily coughed or whatever and the tool bounced off the tooth, under my tongue and wrapped that skin the tongue is attached to around it. Ow. Real OW. He felt bad for not catching that but he's a great guy and at the time my neighbor. I told if there were any problems I'd unleash a hell storm of termites on his home :) He gave me a discount and sent me on my way.
 
2017-01-11 12:57:58 PM  

Feel_the_velvet: Genetic mutation?  I like to think of it as a "Super Power"

The man who felt noall pain, as it were.


I think they need to stop calling genetic differences "defects"
fta "The analysis revealed a genetic defect..."
 
2017-01-11 01:13:18 PM  
Honestly, the root canal I had about a decade ago was probably one of the least traumatic dental experiences I've had.  I was always told it was going to be awful.  Nope.  Numbed up and away he went.  No pain, though that device they put on your face to keep your mouth open is uncomfortable.

The worst part of the whole thing was going to get the tooth measured and sanded down for the crown.  Had to be injected for that, and the whirly sanding machine made a noise so similar to the drill that it may as well have been a dental filling procedure.  Ugh.

I'm overdue to get a cleaning and afraid of what I'll find.  Pls hurry up with that stuff that regrows teeth, pls pls pls.  For all our technological advances we still use that horrid drill.  Why are dental lasers not a thing?  Make this happen, science people!
 
2017-01-11 01:47:09 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Honestly, the root canal I had about a decade ago was probably one of the least traumatic dental experiences I've had.  I was always told it was going to be awful.  Nope.  Numbed up and away he went.  No pain, though that device they put on your face to keep your mouth open is uncomfortable.

The worst part of the whole thing was going to get the tooth measured and sanded down for the crown.  Had to be injected for that, and the whirly sanding machine made a noise so similar to the drill that it may as well have been a dental filling procedure.  Ugh.

I'm overdue to get a cleaning and afraid of what I'll find.  Pls hurry up with that stuff that regrows teeth, pls pls pls.  For all our technological advances we still use that horrid drill.  Why are dental lasers not a thing?  Make this happen, science people!


The root canal, itself, was not bad. It's the got dam bleach they squirt up in there that got to me.
 
2017-01-11 02:38:23 PM  
I actually have facial nerves in odd places. When I needed my wisdom teeth removed, they took xrays that actually were able to show me what had caused ongoing problems with any work I'd ever had done. Apparently, dentists have "normal" places they give shots for locals. If they use those, they actually tag that nerve and a vein that's not in the usual spot either (just barely off), and long story short, I go numb around my eye and temple, not in my mouth.

This has caused ongoing annoyance needless to say as a previous dentist loaded me up on so much local painkillers I'd look like I had a stroke, just to get a freaking filling. I changed dentists to get my wisdom teeth pulled (only the tops), and they started a file that noted alternative needle size, depth and a different poke scheme that significantly narrowed the issue down.

/I was still able to feel my eyeballs in spite of having two wisdom teeth yanked
//it was a whole new world
 
2017-01-11 02:50:46 PM  
FTA: Getting to the root of the problem

OK, which one of you Farkers wrote this?
 
2017-01-11 02:53:57 PM  
Never knew I had so much company in the dental pain department. I had a lot of work done as a kid and developed an immunity to novocain (glad the new stuff is different, it actually works). Had 14 shots when the dentist took out my wisdom teeth on the right side. Only 12 on the left. EVERY trip to the dentist, no mater what for, entails pain. Worst is when they don't believe you. I think I'm wired strangely or something because there's always a live nerve in there somewhere, and I know the dentist is going to hit it. One time that happened, I jerked and the drill bit into my lip instead. The dentist was mortified, but I almost cried with relief because the drill ripping up my lip hurt so much less than hitting the nerve.

The raise your hand if you feel pain is BS. First, severe pain doesn't work that way, your body responds without consulting your brain. Second, the dentist inevitably puts a tray above your hands.

/brown hair
//Father was a red head, so was mom's dad.
///Have the no-tan redhead skin too
 
2017-01-11 03:23:49 PM  
When I was a kid, I had a few baby teeth pulled. Getting the anesthetic shot was sometimes worse than the pulling, especially one in the roof of my mouth for an incisor - my mother heard me yell from the waiting room. I didn't know how numb it was supposed to make the area; the dentist at least once told me, "try not to mistake pressure for pain," or something like that. In the end, the dull pain I felt (especially at the instance the tooth was yanked) was tolerable. Part of my mouth would still be numb for hours after the appointment, though. As an adult, I've had to get a few fillings. On one or two occasions, I started feeling the drill, and a second injection solved the problem.

Apparently the redhead thing has been known for a while. A quick Google search brings up this research paper from 2005:
Increased Sensitivity to Thermal Pain and Reduced Subcutaneous Lidocaine Efficacy in Redheads
 
2017-01-11 04:20:59 PM  
Dentists are usually in a hurry and don't give the local anesthetic enough time to work. They need to wait like 10-15 min after the injection to start drilling.
 
2017-01-11 07:18:53 PM  

bearcats1983: I'm fortunate my only major dental surgery was for my wisdom teeth. The general anesthetic they gave me knocked me out almost immediately. I vaguely remember the assistant counting down from ten and then waking up an hour or so later confused where I was.


My oral surgeon was my aunt's son-in-law. They dosed me with so much liquid valium I was groggy till late in the evening. His assistants were pretty cute & laughing at me when I came around. No telling what the hell I said.
 
2017-01-11 07:31:14 PM  

Mad Mark: bearcats1983: I'm fortunate my only major dental surgery was for my wisdom teeth. The general anesthetic they gave me knocked me out almost immediately. I vaguely remember the assistant counting down from ten and then waking up an hour or so later confused where I was.

My oral surgeon was my aunt's son-in-law. They dosed me with so much liquid valium I was groggy till late in the evening. His assistants were pretty cute & laughing at me when I came around. No telling what the hell I said.


My wife told me I woke up and told her the dental assistants were trying to have sex with me when she left the room. They were cute so maybe it was a drug induced Freudian slip.
 
2017-01-11 07:49:09 PM  

jigger: Dentists are usually in a hurry and don't give the local anesthetic enough time to work. They need to wait like 10-15 min after the injection to start drilling.


When I was a kid, my dentist would give me the shot, then leave me sitting in the chair for so long before he started that it would be wearing off by the time he got to the drilling stage. I developed the bad habits of not breathing and digging my fingernails into my palms out of fear of the pain. The last time I saw him I nearly fainted, and had to hold onto the wall as I was walking out of the exam room. He looked at me as I was leaving and said, "You really ought to see someone about that." I was 11 years old!

For years after, I didn't go to a dentist. Finally got coaxed into seeing a guy at the dental office where a friend worked. He was really marvelous - very patient, willing to take a break whenever the anxiety felt overwhelming. I still don't like the dentist, but I have learned to keep focusing on breathing and consciously unclenching my fists. Believe it or not, it helps that my current dentist has beautiful landscape photos on the ceiling to look at while she works - I can fantasize about being somewhere else.

VogonPoet: OOF: Is it safe?

I understood that reference.
[img.fark.net image 551x308]


I see at least one other person here got it.
/nothing obscure on Fark
 
2017-01-11 08:15:26 PM  
For many years I had the same problem with locals. Then suddenly something changes in my body and the dentist only had to give me about 50% more than usual. I have the same issue with opioid pain medication. Even well before I was on it regularly for my back so I had no built up tolerance. It would take me about twice as much for it to have any effect. That was really fun when I went in for pancreatitis. They loaded me up with as much iv morphine as they were allowed to with no effect. I then had to wait about 4-6 hours in some of the worst pain ever before they tried dilaudid. 4mg of that did the trick pretty well. And no, I have never been an illegal opiate drug user...
 
2017-01-11 09:56:22 PM  

Rihlsul: You know what's fun?  Discovering you're immune to local at the beginning of a vasectomy.

/Uh, no we're not going to continue, thank you very much.
//Knock me the fark out.
///Didn't want to be awake for it anyway
////super glad I live where this covered by socialist health care.


Been there - Done that. Dentists & MDs usually don't believe me until they see it for themselves.

One Doc freaked out when I flinched as she started cutting and called the nurse over for more local. I said, "Just finish already."

Quickest snip procedure she's probably ever done.
 
2017-01-11 10:59:14 PM  
I'm not redheaded but I apparently have a mutation that causes rapid metabolism of all local anesthetics. I've had them use the Articaine and it still metabolizes quickly. I've also had issues with not being able to be affected by Valium. It took them six carpuject syringes of Valium to put me under when they were setting my broken arm in high school, which I'm told is still a record by my friend who now works in that ER.

As a result of this and having a dentist who refused to believe that my mouth wasn't numb... Why would I lie??? I actually hit my dentist to get him to stop drilling into my front incisor during a root canal. I still feel bad about that to this day.

My current dentist, however is awesome, she has me come in for the first appointment of the day, and numbs the hell out of my mouth and then keeps reapplying through the procedure.
 
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