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(The New York Times)   Senator Jeff Sessions turns into a terrorist loving liberal, says waterboarding is illegal and opposes a blanket ban on Muslim visitors   (nytimes.com ) divider line
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2017-01-10 03:11:33 PM  
Well that's it... I'm approving him!
 
2017-01-10 03:12:30 PM  
Man he is good. Saying what he needs to say to make him seem reasonable. He came to this prepared. But we all know he plans on massive domestic terrorism the day he gets his new office.
 
2017-01-10 03:12:57 PM  
Not a blanket ban, just a lot of weasel words singling them out.
 
2017-01-10 03:15:17 PM  
Sounds like something a Russian hacker would say.
 
2017-01-10 03:15:29 PM  
Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.
 
2017-01-10 03:15:30 PM  
To the Tweet-poles!

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na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na...
 
2017-01-10 03:15:57 PM  
He meant to say he was against a ban on giving muslims blankets infected with smallpox.
 
2017-01-10 03:16:18 PM  

wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.


will you please leave hillary alone?
 
2017-01-10 03:16:23 PM  

king of vegas: But we all know he plans on massive domestic terrorism the day he gets his new office.


Yep, cattle cars and death camps, on day one.
 
2017-01-10 03:16:45 PM  
only the History/votes on bills of a politician will show you his future.
 
2017-01-10 03:17:34 PM  

Archidude: He meant to say he was against a ban on giving muslims blankets infected with smallpox.


Odds are that would still be a lie.
 
2017-01-10 03:17:49 PM  
So like his future boss, Sessions is just going to lie his way into office, telling people whatever it is they want to hear.  Awesome.
 
2017-01-10 03:18:31 PM  
This hearing is a joke. If I showed up at a job interview and said I couldn't possibly answer hypothetical questions about how I'd handle the role for which I was being considered, I'd be laughed out of the room.
 
2017-01-10 03:19:28 PM  
Sessions is a pro. He is giving the least most truthful answers he can.
 
2017-01-10 03:21:19 PM  

Popular Opinion: wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.

will you please leave hillary alone?


You are aware that the election is over, yes?
 
2017-01-10 03:22:04 PM  
This time, Republicans are leaving nothing to chance and have lined up African-American surrogates to speak on his behalf.See! He has black friends!!

FTFTA
 
2017-01-10 03:22:11 PM  

HempHead: Sessions is a pro. He is giving the least most truthful answers he can.


He can't very well tell them the truth!
 
2017-01-10 03:22:33 PM  
Lying before congress is a job skill.
 
2017-01-10 03:24:25 PM  
A few minutes ago:

Session says Congress has made marijuana illegal and "it's not so much the AG's job to decide what laws to enforce."

An AG really should know what prosecutorial discretion is. Duh.
 
2017-01-10 03:24:55 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Popular Opinion: wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.

will you please leave hillary alone?

You are aware that the election is over, yes?


The GOP has absolutely no idea how to govern. Psychologically they're still an opposition party dedicated to nothing but nihilistic, value-free opposition. Without anything to oppose, all they can think to do is to relive old fights from when they actually were the party in opposition.

They'd be perfectly happy to block Obamacare or insult Clinton. But they're at a total loss when asked what sort of plan they might want to implement instead, or when asked to defend their proposed appointees.
 
2017-01-10 03:26:37 PM  

pkjun: Marcus Aurelius: Popular Opinion: wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.

will you please leave hillary alone?

You are aware that the election is over, yes?

The GOP has absolutely no idea how to govern. Psychologically they're still an opposition party dedicated to nothing but nihilistic, value-free opposition. Without anything to oppose, all they can think to do is to relive old fights from when they actually were the party in opposition.

They'd be perfectly happy to block Obamacare or insult Clinton. But they're at a total loss when asked what sort of plan they might want to implement instead, or when asked to defend their proposed appointees.


It's worse than that.  They think every Congressional hearing from here on out somehow involves Hillary Clinton.

That is quite bizarre, you have to admit.
 
2017-01-10 03:31:52 PM  
Hey JEFF!

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2017-01-10 03:33:32 PM  
I'm glad this was on record but yes it was totally facetious.  I want to befriend him and get him really drunk at the albino Smurf tavern to see what comes out.
 
2017-01-10 03:35:11 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-01-10 03:42:12 PM  
Good. We shouldn't deny blankets to Muslims, that's just stupid.
 
2017-01-10 03:44:17 PM  

paygun: king of vegas: But we all know he plans on massive domestic terrorism the day he gets his new office.

Yep, cattle cars and death camps, on day one.


Jade Helm 16!
 
2017-01-10 03:44:55 PM  

Popular Opinion: wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.

will you please leave hillary alone?


Is Hillary Clinton being confirmed as AG? Do you have a fecking purpose or point other than to threadshiat and act like a petulant child?

Sessions couldn't get a judgeship during the Reagan 80's because of his racists proclivities but now we're suppose to just give him a pass because emailghazigate? If Trump and Sessions ride through the streets of D.C. tomorrow shooting random people with a pellet gun would you show up here shouting, "BUT CLINTON!!!1!" at the top of your cap locks?

Just stop already. You don't need to show up and whip out the Clinton Get Out Of Jail Free card in every thread where grownup's lament over the disasters of humanity getting ready to run this country into the ground. We know where you and your ilk stand. We know STIGGINIT!

You can sit in your trailer and sip another Keystone Light with your arm around your cousin and feel comfortable in the fact that everyone is about to be as miserable as you are, without the need for you to make a fool of yourself in here.
 
2017-01-10 03:49:04 PM  

neenerist: Jade Helm 16!


That's funny because I've said the same thing here and was told that's completely different because Obama would never do anything like that, but Trump *is* going to build concentration camps, etc.
 
2017-01-10 03:51:05 PM  
I heard some fantastic spin by a head (forgot whom) who declared Sessions 'a hero of the civil rights movement'.  I spewed beer.
 
2017-01-10 03:52:17 PM  

paygun: neenerist: Jade Helm 16!

That's funny because I've said the same thing here and was told that's completely different because Obama would never do anything like that, but Trump *is* going to build concentration camps, etc.


Considering that Trump has stated on the recent past that he wanted to require all members of a certain religion to register with the government, has consistently supported the use of torture, and supports targeting the families of those accused of terrorism, it's somewhat more plausible.
 
2017-01-10 03:52:40 PM  
He also said grabbing a woman by the genitals without consent does in fact qualify as sexual assault.
 
2017-01-10 03:53:42 PM  

paygun: completely different because Obama would never do anything like that


Which is doubly funny considering what he did to Habeas Corpus, whistle blowers and reporters. Or..

img.fark.net
 
2017-01-10 03:54:32 PM  

Terrible Party: Popular Opinion: wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.

will you please leave hillary alone?

Is Hillary Clinton being confirmed as AG? Do you have a fecking purpose or point other than to threadshiat and act like a petulant child?

Sessions couldn't get a judgeship during the Reagan 80's because of his racists proclivities but now we're suppose to just give him a pass because emailghazigate? If Trump and Sessions ride through the streets of D.C. tomorrow shooting random people with a pellet gun would you show up here shouting, "BUT CLINTON!!!1!" at the top of your cap locks?

Just stop already. You don't need to show up and whip out the Clinton Get Out Of Jail Free card in every thread where grownup's lament over the disasters of humanity getting ready to run this country into the ground. We know where you and your ilk stand. We know STIGGINIT!

You can sit in your trailer and sip another Keystone Light with your arm around your cousin and feel comfortable in the fact that everyone is about to be as miserable as you are, without the need for you to make a fool of yourself in here.


God damn, well said...
 
2017-01-10 03:56:48 PM  
All these 'I don't specifically recall's are giving me Iran Contra flashbacks.
 
2017-01-10 04:11:28 PM  

pkjun: Marcus Aurelius: Popular Opinion: wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.

will you please leave hillary alone?

You are aware that the election is over, yes?

The GOP has absolutely no idea how to govern. Psychologically they're still an opposition party dedicated to nothing but nihilistic, value-free opposition. Without anything to oppose, all they can think to do is to relive old fights from when they actually were the party in opposition.

They'd be perfectly happy to block Obamacare or insult Clinton. But they're at a total loss when asked what sort of plan they might want to implement instead, or when asked to defend their proposed appointees.


+1

Absolutely nailed it.

I think it would be hysterical if every single Democratic member of Congress simply stayed home for the next two years. Let the world see what happens when you give Republicans unbridled control of government.

No wonder Republicans hate government so much -- they're absolutely terrible at running it. They want to kill it the same way you'd shut down the Math Olympics or anything else you'd be guaranteed to finish in last place.
 
2017-01-10 04:42:55 PM  
a ban on Muslims is not constitutionally feasible.

a ban on people from Muslim countries, however, is.

See: Chinese Exclusion Act, immigration quotas, Japanese & German internment, the red Scare, etc.

He should have been asked if he favors banning citizens of Non-Israeli Middle Eastern nations instead.
 
2017-01-10 04:43:58 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Popular Opinion: wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.

will you please leave hillary alone?

You are aware that the election is over, yes?


Hating Clintons is the only thing these people have had in place of fresh ideas for the past 30 years. They literally have nowhere else to go cognitively.
 
2017-01-10 04:45:39 PM  
AG Sessions will have fewer Muslims to persecute if they're banned from US entry.
 
2017-01-10 04:55:30 PM  
Sessions also just said he'd enforce the laws on pot. So you can say goodbye to legalized weed.
 
2017-01-10 05:22:33 PM  
Sessions says that "current law makes [waterboarding] 'absolutely improper and illegal.'" That's not the same as calling it immoral or counter to American values. That's an appeal to the status quo ("current law") and a cop-out. US law (specifically the NDAA for 2016) only states that detainees/prisoners "shall not be subjected to any interrogation technique or approach, or any treatment related to interrogation, that is not authorized by and listed in the Army Field Manual." That's the extent of "current law." If waterboarding were to somehow make its way into the Army Field Manual during the Trump administration, I doubt Sessions would lose an ounce of sleep.

/UN bans on torture were also ratified by the US, but hey, it's 2017. Stiggnit International.
 
2017-01-10 05:35:58 PM  

PackofJokers: Sessions says that "current law makes [waterboarding] 'absolutely improper and illegal.'" That's not the same as calling it immoral or counter to American values. That's an appeal to the status quo ("current law") and a cop-out. ...


Yeah, I understand the purpose of staying away from normal phrasing as I try to say exactly what I mean.

Even though a listener might hear me differently based on what they expect to hear in my phrasing.

I don't do this on purpose, I just communicate with words instead of common phrasing.

The part I'm noticing is the "current law" reference, realizing that he means to note that it is not legal under CURRENT law. Emphasis being on the problematic part of it only being illegal, currently.

He's not saying he wouldn't do it if it was legal and that is only a hump that the Republican controlled congress can pass new law to get over. Leaving it up to that rubber stamp at the top to allow it.

Mark my words, waterboarding (and other) is coming back under the Legal Republican coup d'état.

Let's see how the U.S.A. reacts when he goes after state marijuana laws.
 
2017-01-10 05:41:05 PM  

wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.


Apparently it is if they're under oath.
 
2017-01-10 05:47:58 PM  

wood0366: wood0366: Is lying at a confirmation hearing considered perjury? I mean, it is lying to Congress during an investigation.

Apparently it is if they're under oath.


Time Magazine - There are two statutes of U.S. Code that govern perjury before Congress. Section 1621 of Title 18, often called the "general perjury" statute, prohibits individuals from lying to Congress while under oath, while Section 1001, also known as the "false statement" statute, covers testimony given while not under oath. A person convicted of perjury could face fines up to $100,000 or up to five years in jail.

But in practice, unless they can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt there's not really anything that they can do about it.
 
2017-01-10 06:57:07 PM  

dumbobruni: a ban on Muslims is not constitutionally feasible.

a ban on people from Muslim countries, however, is.

See: Chinese Exclusion Act, immigration quotas, Japanese & German internment, the red Scare, etc.

He should have been asked if he favors banning citizens of Non-Israeli Middle Eastern nations instead.


It's feasible.

Too bad it's not practical.
 
2017-01-10 06:59:13 PM  

JonBuck: Sessions also just said he'd enforce the laws on pot. So you can say goodbye to legalized weed.


Good luck with that, Jeff. Posse comitatus is still a thing, and smallening the government means the DEA won't be big enough to fight legal pot in all the state's where LOCAL cops don't have to enforce it.
 
2017-01-10 07:13:49 PM  
I noticed earlier that every time someone asked him about a SCOTUS decision that he didn't agree with, Sen. Sessions was quick to undercut those decisions by pointing out that only five Justices agreed with the final verdict.  Yet when it comes to Citizens United and Section Five of the Voting Rights Act (also 5-4 decisions), it's all "the Supreme Court has already decided."

Also, Blumenthal absolutely embarrassed himself and our state with his stupid trophy questions.

/Your kid once pushed a boy off the swings.  Are you going to give back that "World's Greatest Dad" mug?
 
2017-01-11 01:46:07 AM  

JonBuck: Sessions also just said he'd enforce the laws on pot. So you can say goodbye to legalized weed.


I actually support that, mainly because the majority of hardcore weed fanatics I know either didn't vote, voted Republican, or voted third party.

neenerist: paygun: completely different because Obama would never do anything like that

Which is doubly funny considering what he did to Habeas Corpus, whistle blowers and reporters. Or..

[img.fark.net image 165x115]


Please explain what he did to Habeas Corpus and how targeting whistle blowers for breaking the law isn't legal.
 
2017-01-11 01:59:28 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: JonBuck: Sessions also just said he'd enforce the laws on pot. So you can say goodbye to legalized weed.

I actually support that, mainly because the majority of hardcore weed fanatics I know either didn't vote, voted Republican, or voted third party.

neenerist: paygun: completely different because Obama would never do anything like that

Which is doubly funny considering what he did to Habeas Corpus, whistle blowers and reporters. Or..

[img.fark.net image 165x115]

Please explain what he did to Habeas Corpus and how targeting whistle blowers for breaking the law isn't legal.


Apparently Obama got into his time machine and went back to 2001 and helped pass the Patriot Act, which suspended Habeas Corpus.
 
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