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(Detroit Free Press)   Michigan Gov. Snyder's brilliant plan to balance the budget: "Let's just not pay back any of that money we stole from unemployed people"   ( freep.com) divider line
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2017-01-10 09:09:53 PM  
Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.
 
2017-01-10 11:04:56 PM  

lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.


So...mission accomplished?
 
2017-01-10 11:05:26 PM  
The next four years are going to be a farking nightmare.
 
2017-01-10 11:05:59 PM  

lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.


Couldn't be worse than Graham Crackers.
 
2017-01-10 11:11:38 PM  

Mock26: The next four years are going to be a farking nightmare.


It'll be a cauterization of a wound.  Once and for all, *everyone* will see what these policies actually do instead of what they claim they do.  The nuts are glomming on, in thrall of their victory, and the anchor they're tying themselves to will sink them all.

Of course, I'm an optimist.
 
2017-01-10 11:12:23 PM  

Mock26: The next four years are going to be a farking nightmare.


I don't know where you've been, but the last eight weren't that great, either.  And no, I'm not gonna thank Obama.  My present understanding is that (horrifically), we have Bush Sr. to thank for most of the largesse of the Clinton administration, and Clinton to blame for Al Qaeda, 9/11, and the increasingly rapid decline that followed.

In other words, if things change for better or worse during a presidential administration, look to the previous guy to find out why.  God help us if that turns out to be both correct and consistent, 'cause that means we're gonna get another 3-year presidential election cycle full of Trump.
 
2017-01-10 11:14:16 PM  
Governor Snyder or Snidely? Does he have a dog named Muttly?
 
2017-01-10 11:15:10 PM  
Subby,  if you have a better way to pay for tax breaks for millionaires,  we're all ears.
 
2017-01-10 11:20:57 PM  
"Some people have not yet been reimbursed because the agency doesn't have accurate contact information,"

And the agency hasn't looked real hard for it.
 
2017-01-10 11:21:18 PM  
What a POS!
 
2017-01-10 11:24:52 PM  
This line was a hoot: "We continue to review cases to make sure people are treated fairly and are reimbursed if necessary."

Because if you stole someone's money, you need to make sure it's necessary to pay them back.
 
2017-01-10 11:30:36 PM  
Cool kids never have to pay the price, only the unpopular people must pay for their violence and murder, unless of course someone will hold them accountable, the state never will, popular kids..
 
2017-01-10 11:31:54 PM  

qorkfiend: lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.

So...mission accomplished?


It is GOP 101, as we know.
 
2017-01-10 11:37:04 PM  
"The state's Unemployment Insurance Agency has acknowledged that an error-prone computer system called the Michigan Integrated Data Automated System (MiDAS) had a 93% error rate between October 2013 and late 2015, during which time it made false fraud allegations against about 27,000 to 50,000 unemployment insurance claimants. "
 
2017-01-10 11:39:42 PM  
The golden parachutes will not land into a place they will want to be
 
2017-01-10 11:44:04 PM  

great_tigers: lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.

Couldn't be worse than Graham Crackers.


We had drinkable water coming out of our taps, and the movie industry was building in MI during her term.  All he did was pile up the garbage even deeper, and I don't mean the Canadian trash.

/fireworks, that is the only decent thing he did
 
2017-01-10 11:44:31 PM  

berylman: The golden parachutes will not land into a place they will want to be


Yes they will.

:/
 
2017-01-10 11:52:20 PM  
Why do people keep voting in republicans knowing damn well how bad they are for the most part? I mean holy fark how stupid are people to quite literally vote against their best interests.
 
2017-01-10 11:58:17 PM  

lordkabal26: Why do people keep voting in republicans knowing damn well how bad they are for the most part?


Because the gays! The atheists! The libruls! The coloreds! The foreigners! The Muslims! Socialismmmmm! THE BOGEYMAN SCARES THEM AND THEY MUST REACT!

Or to be blunt: Because conservatives are close-minded, selfish cowards.
 
2017-01-11 12:01:35 AM  

lordkabal26: Why do people keep voting in republicans knowing damn well how bad they are for the most part? I mean holy fark how stupid are people to quite literally vote against their best interests.


The people who voted for him happened to not have been hurt by his mess.  Those who didn't likely vote for him: Flint, Detroit, state and local government workers, and most people who make less than $50K a year.  You'd be surprised how many MI people aren't in those groups.
 
2017-01-11 12:03:05 AM  
Old Hotness GOP: Craven Greedy Authoritarians
New Hotness: Open Treason
 
2017-01-11 12:03:35 AM  
When are these farkers going to quit insulting the intelligence of the people? Never they don't even try to be convincing.
 
2017-01-11 12:03:51 AM  
They stole from the unemployed in Florida also when their website didn't work for several months during which thousands of people's eligibility expired. Nothing was done to compensate for their mis-management. Typical Republican shenanigans. They all suck and so does anyone who votes for them.
 
2017-01-11 12:07:24 AM  

thorpe: "The state's Unemployment Insurance Agency has acknowledged that an error-prone computer system called the Michigan Integrated Data Automated System (MiDAS) had a 93% error rate between October 2013 and late 2015, during which time it made false fraud allegations against about 27,000 to 50,000 unemployment insurance claimants. "


Holy crap.  That's not an error-prone bug, that's an actual error feature.  If designers or subsequent tech support staff were asked to tweak until such "errors" were achieved, we desperately need those people to speak the fark up.
 
2017-01-11 12:10:12 AM  
Poor Michigan.
Democrats drive it into the gutter, then Republicans come along, kick the crap out of it and rifle through its pockets.
 
2017-01-11 12:16:08 AM  

Smackledorfer: qorkfiend: lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.

So...mission accomplished?

It is GOP 101, as we know.


Indeed, it's almost as if they don't know they're married to a population that gave them a job to represent them. It's almost as if all their time is spent generating money for the benefit of their corporate donors.
 
2017-01-11 12:19:59 AM  
Then you read the article and find that 10 million of 155 million is being diverted to other needs.
Great clickbait headline though.
 
2017-01-11 12:22:46 AM  

lack of warmth: great_tigers: lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.

Couldn't be worse than Graham Crackers.

We had drinkable water coming out of our taps, and the movie industry was building in MI during her term.  All he did was pile up the garbage even deeper, and I don't mean the Canadian trash.

/fireworks, that is the only decent thing he did


"A growing movie industry"? Are you kidding me? A movie industry?

We had a couple of very very low budget films with scenes shot in Michigan. Call me old school, but I'd take a thriving auto industry and medical community any day  over 2000 msu dip out film students working on indie films.

As far as the water. Yes. It was a shiat show. In no way is it excusable, however, many cities have higher lead in their water than Flint did.

"Thriving Movie industry", keep wearing a safety pin.
 
2017-01-11 12:27:56 AM  
Certainly won't have any negative impacts, I'm sure.

img.fark.net
 
2017-01-11 12:28:53 AM  

coffeeburns: Smackledorfer: qorkfiend: lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.

So...mission accomplished?

It is GOP 101, as we know.

Indeed, it's almost as if they don't know they're married to a population that gave them a job to represent them. It's almost as if all their time is spent generating money for the benefit of their corporate donors.


you'd almost think they have no fear of the voters at all. they  have half the country thinking that it's a sin to vote for a Democrat and no matter what we have to stop the gays and minorities. Even if it costs them the shirts off their back. As long as they're dumb enough to believe it when you tell them it's the poor minorities that are the problem and not that half of every dollar of profit made in this country goes into the bank accounts of about 400 people.
 
2017-01-11 12:33:39 AM  

great_tigers: lack of warmth: great_tigers: lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.

Couldn't be worse than Graham Crackers.

We had drinkable water coming out of our taps, and the movie industry was building in MI during her term.  All he did was pile up the garbage even deeper, and I don't mean the Canadian trash.

/fireworks, that is the only decent thing he did

"A growing movie industry"? Are you kidding me? A movie industry?

We had a couple of very very low budget films with scenes shot in Michigan. Call me old school, but I'd take a thriving auto industry and medical community any day  over 2000 msu dip out film students working on indie films.


transformers..batman vs. superman.. robocop reboot..red dawn.. that's your idea of low budget indie films??
 
2017-01-11 12:34:30 AM  

WilderKWight: lordkabal26: Why do people keep voting in republicans knowing damn well how bad they are for the most part?

Because the gays! The atheists! The libruls! The coloreds! The foreigners! The Muslims! Socialismmmmm! THE BOGEYMAN SCARES THEM AND THEY MUST REACT!

Or to be blunt: Because conservatives are close-minded, selfish cowards.


I think Tiger Woods is the only one scared of the Bogeyman.
 
2017-01-11 12:51:38 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2017-01-11 12:56:14 AM  

lordkabal26: Why do people keep voting in republicans knowing damn well how bad they are for the most part? I mean holy fark how stupid are people to quite literally vote against their best interests.


Because most of the people who know this don't vote. The GOP figured it out and they win.
 
2017-01-11 01:01:40 AM  
I would love to see this egotistical piece of shiat have to run for re-election just one more time.
 
2017-01-11 01:17:38 AM  
FTA: "Some people have not yet been reimbursed because the agency doesn't have accurate contact information," Murray said. "We continue our efforts to contact these people.

They might need to start looking in a few homeless shelters.
 
2017-01-11 01:29:01 AM  
The modern GOP:media.tumblr.com
 
2017-01-11 01:34:04 AM  

lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.


and therefore "government is bad" and we should elect republicans.

See how that works when you also have people like Betsy Devos destroying education and making a state (and soon a country) full of morons?
 
2017-01-11 01:37:59 AM  
This headline seems to be a sensationalist view of what happened.
$10 mill out of $160 mill is not absconding with money. Money gets moved regularly when budgets are balanced. Nor are they saying they won't pay back people. I also don't see how this was Snyder's plan.

What really ought to be looked at instead of this ignorant clamour is to find out who failed the people so badly by choosing this error prone data system. Where were the tests? Who did them? Who approved it? Was due diligence done? Was there corruption, incompetence, or neglect?

But see, that's hard work. Much easier to blame the governor.
 
2017-01-11 01:46:42 AM  
People who claim benefits while working a real job.   haha.
 
2017-01-11 02:14:42 AM  

spesimen: great_tigers: lack of warmth: great_tigers: lack of warmth: Their thinking is it would be nothing to replace the $10mil when it comes time to repay those who shouldn't have been penalized to begin with.  Um, what if the court decides those people deserve more than what was taken from them?  Do they not realize that it will put that fund in the red by more than the $10mil?

By the time Snyder leaves office, the state government will likely be worse off than Detroit.

Couldn't be worse than Graham Crackers.

We had drinkable water coming out of our taps, and the movie industry was building in MI during her term.  All he did was pile up the garbage even deeper, and I don't mean the Canadian trash.

/fireworks, that is the only decent thing he did

"A growing movie industry"? Are you kidding me? A movie industry?

We had a couple of very very low budget films with scenes shot in Michigan. Call me old school, but I'd take a thriving auto industry and medical community any day  over 2000 msu dip out film students working on indie films.

transformers..batman vs. superman.. robocop reboot..red dawn.. that's your idea of low budget indie films??


man of steel was made there too. Lots of money for the locals. Hotels ,restaurants,hundreds of crew and extras. they hired construction people to build sets. Off duty cops for security etc..
 
2017-01-11 02:24:39 AM  

duenor: This headline seems to be a sensationalist view of what happened.
$10 mill out of $160 mill is not absconding with money. Money gets moved regularly when budgets are balanced. Nor are they saying they won't pay back people. I also don't see how this was Snyder's plan.

What really ought to be looked at instead of this ignorant clamour is to find out who failed the people so badly by choosing this error prone data system. Where were the tests? Who did them? Who approved it? Was due diligence done? Was there corruption, incompetence, or neglect?

But see, that's hard work. Much easier to blame the governor.


This. In 25 years of working for a city government (and comparing notes with people from other agencies) I have never seen any mass specialty electronics or database purchase that wasn't a fiasco.
 
2017-01-11 02:28:11 AM  
The good news: Unemployed folk can't afford to sue.
The bad news: They have time to vote.
 
2017-01-11 02:34:14 AM  

Cpl.D: Mock26: The next four years are going to be a farking nightmare.

It'll be a cauterization of a wound.  Once and for all, *everyone* will see what these policies actually do instead of what they claim they do.  The nuts are glomming on, in thrall of their victory, and the anchor they're tying themselves to will sink them all.

Of course, I'm an optimist.


That's definitely optimistic.  More likely, this will just accelerate our plunge into final destruction.
 
2017-01-11 02:46:04 AM  
Another treasonous Republican that uses Russian cooked propaganda to convince the American people to vote against their own interests.
 
2017-01-11 02:52:49 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: The modern GOP:[media.tumblr.com image 250x323]


Thanks, Canada.
 
2017-01-11 02:58:14 AM  
img.fark.net

What a Michigan might look like from space on a night when the auroras were active further north.
 
2017-01-11 02:59:35 AM  

jsmilky: People who claim benefits while working a real job.   haha.


Yeah, the fact that a shiatload of jobs in America don't pay their employees enough to live on is pretty laughable, in a "bitter, angry laughter" sort of way.
 
2017-01-11 04:44:40 AM  

70Ford: This line was a hoot: "We continue to review cases to make sure people are treated fairly and are reimbursed if necessary."

Because if you stole someone's money, you need to make sure it's necessary to pay them back.


It's necessary to review the cases and see if you got away it to see who you can steal from again.
 
2017-01-11 05:15:06 AM  

duenor: This headline seems to be a sensationalist view of what happened.
$10 mill out of $160 mill is not absconding with money. Money gets moved regularly when budgets are balanced. Nor are they saying they won't pay back people. I also don't see how this was Snyder's plan.

What really ought to be looked at instead of this ignorant clamour is to find out who failed the people so badly by choosing this error prone data system. Where were the tests? Who did them? Who approved it? Was due diligence done? Was there corruption, incompetence, or neglect?

But see, that's hard work. Much easier to blame the governor.


Do you think that investigating the problem and reimbursing those victimized by it are somehow mutual exclusives? It's an either-or deal, to you?
Why?
 
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