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(Mother Nature Network)   Aging Baby Boomers have the nerve to actually want to spend their final days living in a roomy home in a quiet cul-de-sac in a safe suburb when they really should all be crammed into a downtown apartment high-rise   ( mnn.com) divider line
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2017-01-10 04:04:38 AM  
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2017-01-10 06:16:46 AM  
Sunset Squad?

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2017-01-10 07:12:53 AM  
In before all the freaks who somehow believe they'll be the ones to decide where their parents spend their later years.

I see this weird, parent-hating, "I'll show them!" fantasy only on Fark.
 
2017-01-10 07:23:24 AM  
I can't wait to throw my mom in a nursing...

Oh god damn it
Curse you MadAzzayou have thwarted my grand plans with your superhuman skills of being in before me.
 
2017-01-10 07:27:40 AM  
Well, the article shows this as the ideal Boomer living situation:
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... which subby thinks is being crammed into a high-rise?
 
2017-01-10 07:30:55 AM  
This was my mother. She died in her home, a rambling 4000 square foot monstrosity, on a cul-de-sac. The monthly utilities were higher than her mortgage payment. But it was her choice, and she had the money to do it.
 
2017-01-10 07:34:52 AM  
Amazon.com should help this work nicely.
 
2017-01-10 07:37:16 AM  
We've been going through this with the in-laws. They are upper 60s and want to move out near us to be close to their grandchild.  The problem is that they recognize that they are growing older and need a place that has few stairs and minimal maintenance, but they are also fundamentally rural living people who want acreage and seclusion.  After 6 months they gave up on buying and are renting a nice place from a divorced couple who got in over their heads on an investment property.
 
2017-01-10 07:38:18 AM  
Self driving cars will soon solve the no driving problem. Especially if they have home- store- chirch- etc. easy buttons.
 
2017-01-10 07:38:36 AM  
Considering the Boomers have reaped so many of the rewards of raping the economy, I have no problem with that.

/My Boomer parents are already deceased
 
2017-01-10 07:40:14 AM  
Is that better or worse that what Ghost In The Shell:Stand Alone Complex promised?

Old people stuffed in a VR capsules (with life support built in) and forced to play World of Warcraft until they pass away.
 
2017-01-10 07:41:22 AM  

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Interesting, but I wonder about the taste.  How is it?
 
2017-01-10 07:41:25 AM  
WTF. That's just a troll-tastic, dumb as shiat trolly headline.

Oh, wait. This is Fark.
 
2017-01-10 07:42:28 AM  
fark em.

Seriously, the boomers can pretty much go down as the Worst Generation. So badly that they tarnish the reputation of their parents for raising such entitled gits.
 
2017-01-10 07:46:42 AM  

namegoeshere: Self driving cars will soon solve the no driving problem. Especially if they have home- store- chirch- etc. easy buttons.


They better have easy buttons.  Otherwise we can all expect to get those 3am "honey...the damn car just drove me to California!  How do I set it to take me back to Ohio?" phone calls ,
 
2017-01-10 07:46:50 AM  

Fallout Zone: We've been going through this with the in-laws. They are upper 60s and want to move out near us to be close to their grandchild.  The problem is that they recognize that they are growing older and need a place that has few stairs and minimal maintenance, but they are also fundamentally rural living people who want acreage and seclusion.  After 6 months they gave up on buying and are renting a nice place from a divorced couple who got in over their heads on an investment property.


Around the Mid Atlantic states (VA to NY corridor) we're seeing tons of 55+ ONLY communities popping up that give people large homes with single-floor master plans (guest bedrooms on second floor, but everything else at grade) with enough space for flower and vegetable gardens and a deck in their yards. They're single-family homes, not town-homes or duplexes, and tend to be built in more rural locations that are 10-15 minutes outside of larger cities so that people still have easy access to amenities, health care, and other things while still keeping a relatively independent lifestyle. The HOA takes care of shoveling snow and plowing streets and driveways as well as yard maintenance (in some cases, they even tend folks' flower beds) and have home warranty plans that take care of major maintenance issues.

All in all, its' a good compromise, albeit more expensive than traditional home ownership due to the HOA and buying relatively new construction.
 
2017-01-10 07:48:13 AM  
I moved from my aging 3 story house with 6 acres to a rancher on an acre and totally renovated it with an eye on retiring here. Replaced all the switches with the wide flat ones, moved the laundry room up from the basement, prepared the bathroom for grab bars, etc. Replaced the water heater and furnace with point of use ones. I have a kitchen remodal left on my list. I can walk the 1/4 mile to my doctor.  As far as food, I fully expect all groceries to be delivered from the store in the next 10 years.  Public transportation is half a mile away... then there is Uber.

No way I am moving to the city..with those smells and the crime.

When the above won't work. I am already on the waiting list for a masonic home.

I don't want my family to have to lift a finger for me.
 
2017-01-10 07:49:19 AM  
Younger Boomer here.

I'm already making my plans. I'm not so much downsizing than re configuring (everything needs do be on one level due to spouse's ortho issues). On one hand, I WOULD like to be out of traffic, but I also know I need to be fairly close to medical facilities.

Neither one of us is interested in the high rise life. We want less noise, not more.

Now get off my lawn.
 
2017-01-10 07:50:04 AM  
I used to live across the street from two old dudes. They were pretty cool old farts and they'd call the cops pretty quick if they saw anything. I called it "Old Man Security".

/ I've never lived in a safer area than a sketchy part of town across from two old dudes.
 
2017-01-10 07:51:38 AM  
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2017-01-10 07:51:41 AM  
I'm only living in a cul-de-sac because I have kids.  Once they're off to college, I'm selling this place and moving into a condo where I can walk to get loaded.  Driving sucks.
 
2017-01-10 07:53:33 AM  
Like it or not, there is going to be a lot of old poor people roaming about like zombies soon. We'll need cheap old people storage.
 
2017-01-10 07:55:18 AM  

CheatCommando: fark em.

Seriously, the boomers can pretty much go down as the Worst Generation. So badly that they tarnish the reputation of their parents for raising such entitled gits.


Of all the idiotic forms that human "imagining oneself to be better than others" takes, thinking yourself superior to others because of when you were born has to be the stupidest.
Bigotry for people with room temperature IQs.
 
2017-01-10 07:56:43 AM  
My mom and her husband were like that until last year. They moved in to a "community". It basically a super upscale old folks home. My mom is only 71 but her husband is a little older. He had a back issue that had my mom playing nurse for many months a few years back. That scared them both enough to know that one person alone cannot take care of the other.

It really is like a cruise ship that never goes anywhere. They have a pub, the food is excellent etc
 
2017-01-10 08:00:03 AM  
Dumb headline is dumb. There's a whole bunch of choices between cul de sac subdivision with half-acre lots and high-rise apartments. The ideal neighborhood for old people is the old streetcar suburb, with single-family homes on small lots in a grid street network, and shopping within walking distance. Tiny front yard, sidewalk out front, back yard big enough to entertain and garden. Frequent bus or streetcar service.

Real estate developers, meanwhile, are building cul de sac subdivisions out in the sticks with lots that size, but zero amenities in walking distance, because they make more money building on cheap land. Local governments let them do it because they don't know any better or are bought off. And the existing intown neighborhoods with amenities are priced out of reach for most people.
 
2017-01-10 08:00:25 AM  

CheatCommando: fark em.

Seriously, the boomers can pretty much go down as the Worst Generation. So badly that they tarnish the reputation of their parents for raising such entitled gits.


No. fark you.
 
2017-01-10 08:01:32 AM  
Making plans to have my dad move in with me. There'll be stairs though until he can't negotiate them, then a lift chair.  Expect that he has another 7-8 years max, the men in my family only make it to the mid 80s.

The in laws are probably going to sell their house in NY and the one in FL and move closer to us in SF in a few years to be closer to the grandkids. Selling both houses should net them enough to afford a decent condo in a nice part of the EB.  They've always been urban dwellers so I doubt they will miss the rural lifestyle.
 
2017-01-10 08:04:13 AM  

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Well it is Tuesday.
 
2017-01-10 08:05:51 AM  

CheatCommando: fark em.

Seriously, the boomers can pretty much go down as the Worst Generation. So badly that they tarnish the reputation of their parents for raising such entitled gits.


That generation's rep is mostly hooey, anyway. The "Greatest Generation" just had a bunch of bad shiat inflicted on them and made it through it; they didn't volunteer for that. Then they reaped the benefits of massive government spending programs on education and infrastructure, as well as having the only major economy that hadn't been bombed flat.
 
2017-01-10 08:05:55 AM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: CheatCommando: fark em.

Seriously, the boomers can pretty much go down as the Worst Generation. So badly that they tarnish the reputation of their parents for raising such entitled gits.

No. fark you.


Shiatty people need to feel like they are better than others. One way they do this is to organize them into arbitrary "races" or "generations" or other collectives, which they then ascribe special characteristics to, like "Boomers" all being evil and selfish, or Blacks all being criminal or hypersexual.
 
2017-01-10 08:06:40 AM  
The gray take over of out entire government is on the horizon....  you progressives seem to think it will be your turn next... it won't.

As the boomers retire... they have 2 advantages over you, experience and TIME.. to volunteer and get elected/appointed to local government.  And you will be addicted to your video games, TV and running your kids everywhere and won't time to bother fighting back.

Gonna be fun to watch.
 
2017-01-10 08:07:21 AM  

jso2897: Some Bass Playing Guy: CheatCommando: fark em.

Seriously, the boomers can pretty much go down as the Worst Generation. So badly that they tarnish the reputation of their parents for raising such entitled gits.

No. fark you.

Shiatty people need to feel like they are better than others. One way they do this is to organize them into arbitrary "races" or "generations" or other collectives, which they then ascribe special characteristics to, like "Boomers" all being evil and selfish, or Blacks all being criminal or hypersexual.


Vonnegut created a whole vocabulary for this kind of nonsense. "Generations" are a granfalloon; they don't actually mean anything.
 
2017-01-10 08:07:38 AM  

LazyMedia: CheatCommando: fark em.

Seriously, the boomers can pretty much go down as the Worst Generation. So badly that they tarnish the reputation of their parents for raising such entitled gits.

That generation's rep is mostly hooey, anyway. The "Greatest Generation" just had a bunch of bad shiat inflicted on them and made it through it; they didn't volunteer for that. Then they reaped the benefits of massive government spending programs on education and infrastructure, as well as having the only major economy that hadn't been bombed flat.


A "generation" is a perfect example of what Vonnegut called a "granfalloon".
 
2017-01-10 08:08:10 AM  
Curse you, Lazy Media!
 
2017-01-10 08:12:43 AM  

jso2897: LazyMedia: CheatCommando: fark em.

Seriously, the boomers can pretty much go down as the Worst Generation. So badly that they tarnish the reputation of their parents for raising such entitled gits.

That generation's rep is mostly hooey, anyway. The "Greatest Generation" just had a bunch of bad shiat inflicted on them and made it through it; they didn't volunteer for that. Then they reaped the benefits of massive government spending programs on education and infrastructure, as well as having the only major economy that hadn't been bombed flat.

A "generation" is a perfect example of what Vonnegut called a "granfalloon".


I'm a Hoosier, so I'm getting a kick out of this comment...

Generations function mostly as market segmentation and opportunities to sell books.  Humans love to navel gaze, and there's no better navel gazing opportunity than generalizing about people based on age.  It has a lot in common with the popularity of astrology.
 
2017-01-10 08:13:48 AM  
Well, maybe we'll have cheap electricity as a bonus.

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2017-01-10 08:14:05 AM  

dwrash: The gray take over of out entire government is on the horizon....  you progressives seem to think it will be your turn next... it won't.

As the boomers retire... they have 2 advantages over you, experience and TIME.. to volunteer and get elected/appointed to local government.  And you will be addicted to your video games, TV and running your kids everywhere and won't time to bother fighting back.

Gonna be fun to watch.


In other words, age and experience will always triumph over youth and enthusiasm.
 
2017-01-10 08:15:09 AM  

iheartscotch: I used to live across the street from two old dudes. They were pretty cool old farts and they'd call the cops pretty quick if they saw anything. I called it "Old Man Security".

/ I've never lived in a safer area than a sketchy part of town across from two old dudes.


Yeah, I've got that, only it's an old lady. I live in a 1950s ranch subdivision in an inner suburb with sketchiness on the borders, but I know all my immediate neighbors and we look out for each other's houses.
 
2017-01-10 08:24:43 AM  
Be rich. Don't be not rich.
 
2017-01-10 08:27:30 AM  

MadAzza: In before all the freaks who somehow believe they'll be the ones to decide where their parents spend their later years.

I see this weird, parent-hating, "I'll show them!" fantasy only on Fark.


And in the imaginations of the elderly themselves.

The son-in-law or daughter-in-law they never got along with and didn't approve of is always trying to put them in a nursing home where they'll spend the rest of their short lives in misery, just so son-in-law or daughter-in-law can fiddle the in-laws out of their house.
 
2017-01-10 08:29:49 AM  

namegoeshere: Self driving cars will soon solve the no driving problem. Especially if they have home- store- chirch- etc. easy buttons.


Uh-huh. I'd like to see you talk my mom or dad into that. 

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That's hilarious
 
2017-01-10 08:30:27 AM  
Pops can spend his money the way he wants. He's planned for it and it's his choice.
 
2017-01-10 08:33:02 AM  
How dare they. They should be stacked neatly, and compactly, for their imminent death.
 
2017-01-10 08:38:58 AM  

tallen702: Fallout Zone: We've been going through this with the in-laws. They are upper 60s and want to move out near us to be close to their grandchild.  The problem is that they recognize that they are growing older and need a place that has few stairs and minimal maintenance, but they are also fundamentally rural living people who want acreage and seclusion.  After 6 months they gave up on buying and are renting a nice place from a divorced couple who got in over their heads on an investment property.

Around the Mid Atlantic states (VA to NY corridor) we're seeing tons of 55+ ONLY communities popping up that give people large homes with single-floor master plans (guest bedrooms on second floor, but everything else at grade) with enough space for flower and vegetable gardens and a deck in their yards. They're single-family homes, not town-homes or duplexes, and tend to be built in more rural locations that are 10-15 minutes outside of larger cities so that people still have easy access to amenities, health care, and other things while still keeping a relatively independent lifestyle. The HOA takes care of shoveling snow and plowing streets and driveways as well as yard maintenance (in some cases, they even tend folks' flower beds) and have home warranty plans that take care of major maintenance issues.

All in all, its' a good compromise, albeit more expensive than traditional home ownership due to the HOA and buying relatively new construction.


My mom's uncle lives in a place like that in south jersey. Every time we wemt there we would have to meet him at the gate so we wouldn't get lost finding his place. It is a big series of concentric circles and everything looks the same. It was easier than just getting directions since there were no real landmarks. Even the street names were all similar...
 
2017-01-10 08:42:25 AM  

dwrash: The gray take over of out entire government is on the horizon....  you progressives seem to think it will be your turn next... it won't.

As the boomers retire... they have 2 advantages over you, experience and TIME.. to volunteer and get elected/appointed to local government.  And you will be addicted to your video games, TV and running your kids everywhere and won't time to bother fighting back.

Gonna be fun to watch.


Not around here(Indiana). The boomers in politics already tend to stay in too long. The retired boomers I know, and I know a lot, want to play euchre on Wednesday night, fiddle with their too-big house and yard, gossip about their acquaintances at the diner or euchre club, and lament their friends slowly dwindling away. Granted, my parents and friends were mostly hard-working blue collar type folks for 50 years, but they have no interest in getting involved with anything resembling a job.

/mom does volunteer at the local elementary as a 3rd grade teacher's assistant 2 days a week
//gives her a break from her full-time job of railing against Trump on facebook and pissing the old guys off
 
2017-01-10 08:45:13 AM  
Later 60s here. I'm trying to sell the house and downsize. Move closer in. My own mother around 30 years ago moved into a 3 room apartment and thrived. I hate the extra space and costly maintenance.
 
2017-01-10 08:53:04 AM  
Maybe I'm a bit naïve in my "youth," but I still view the ideal as retiring a bit on the early side, living it up a bit (mostly travelling to places I don't have time to visit now), and when my body and/or mind start failing, being taken to the vet, put to sleep, and disposed of in an environmentally friendly manner.

Even with the money I p*ss away on travel and/or boozing it up with old floozies, I figure it would be cheaper and more enjoyable than slowly deteriorating over a couple decades while friends and family slowly die off around me, awaiting the inevitable.
 
2017-01-10 08:54:20 AM  

dugitman: dwrash: The gray take over of out entire government is on the horizon....  you progressives seem to think it will be your turn next... it won't.

As the boomers retire... they have 2 advantages over you, experience and TIME.. to volunteer and get elected/appointed to local government.  And you will be addicted to your video games, TV and running your kids everywhere and won't time to bother fighting back.

Gonna be fun to watch.

Not around here(Indiana). The boomers in politics already tend to stay in too long. The retired boomers I know, and I know a lot, want to play euchre on Wednesday night, fiddle with their too-big house and yard, gossip about their acquaintances at the diner or euchre club, and lament their friends slowly dwindling away. Granted, my parents and friends were mostly hard-working blue collar type folks for 50 years, but they have no interest in getting involved with anything resembling a job.

/mom does volunteer at the local elementary as a 3rd grade teacher's assistant 2 days a week
//gives her a break from her full-time job of railing against Trump on facebook and pissing the old guys off


They vote in sufficient, consistent, numbers to control what happens.
 
2017-01-10 09:04:58 AM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Is that better or worse that what Ghost In The Shell:Stand Alone Complex promised?

Old people stuffed in a VR capsules (with life support built in) and forced to play World of Warcraft until they pass away.


The fark. Ghost Shell must of copied the matrix...
 
2017-01-10 09:05:32 AM  

LazyMedia: That generation's rep is mostly hooey, anyway. The "Greatest Generation" just had a bunch of bad shiat inflicted on them and made it through it; they didn't volunteer for that. Then they reaped the benefits of massive government spending programs on education and infrastructure, as well as having the only major economy that hadn't been bombed flat.

They voted for those massive government spending programs.  The reason why the Boomers are so despised is that they reaped the benefits of FDR programs, then when it was their turn to take over they pulled up the ladder.
 
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