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(SFGate)   Treasury Department tries to explain why only four agents investigate terrorist funding but over 20 investigate Cuban embargo violations. Say it has something to do with Cuban cigars   (sfgate.com) divider line 113
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2004-04-29 09:02:42 PM
Holy crap! Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that most of the prosecutions using the PATRIOT act have nothing to do with terrorism, or that the government is choosing now to focus on prosecuting pornographers.

This administration has a great record of addressing the most pressing problems.

Cuba is so last millenium.
 
2004-04-29 09:11:03 PM
Bad habits are hard to break in Washington...However I think they should drop all restrictions on Cuber and let the masses get a dose of what they've been missing (the last 40 years for example)...Castro wouldn't stand a chance...
 
2004-04-29 09:29:23 PM
4? is that a typo >\
 
2004-04-29 09:38:31 PM
Damn liberal media!!!!

Those 4 agents are.. uh.. BETTER than the other 20!

Smarter and faster, too.
 
2004-04-29 09:50:46 PM
"Politics is clearly diverting precious time, money and manpower away from the war on terrorism here."

should read:
"Politics is clearly diverting precious time, money and manpower away from politics here."
 
2004-04-29 10:00:22 PM
Biggest farce ever: Prior to 9/11, 400 FBI Agents investigating and arresting Doctors for discounting uninsured patients inorder to sue for "..unequal Medicare billing.." placing many doctors in jail and out of business. ($10,000 to $40,000 per discounted fee outside Medicare) When they had only a small anti-terror task force who apparently lost track of many potential killers amongst us.
 
2004-04-29 11:20:09 PM
I imagine this has something to do with how THE REAL INVESTIGATIONS OF THE FUNDING ARE NOT AT THE TREASURY. This might be something that, say, the CIA would be interested in. You know, instead of simply shutting down the accounts, watch them and see who uses them.
 
2004-04-29 11:38:04 PM
They should put some investigators on this issue to se why there were only 4 investigators on the previous issue.

Your tax dollars at work folks, lets hear it for the people in Washington!
 
2004-04-30 12:49:10 AM
Cuba has better drugs, everyone knows that.
 
2004-04-30 12:52:28 AM
Like marijuana enforcement... someone's got farkakte priorities.
 
2004-04-30 12:53:03 AM
Cigars! It's clearly Clinton's fault!

/sigh
 
2004-04-30 12:54:51 AM
I heard this on Stern this morning...
And it doesn't surprise me.
 
2004-04-30 12:55:45 AM
Why is it when there is a Republican in office and things go bad, it's something generic like, that's politics, but when it's a Democrat in charge, it's direct blame naming the person in office?

Must be that liberal media.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2004-04-30 12:59:15 AM
Which reminds me: I have to order another box of Ramone Allones Specially Selected. The Montecristo Robustos are nice, but not Habana nice...
 
2004-04-30 01:00:03 AM
Dancin_In_Anson

holy shiat we agree. The quickest way to end communism has always been this: expose communists to capitalism.

On the other hand I agree with you and now feel cold and lonely inside.

someone please hold me.
 
2004-04-30 01:01:52 AM
uh, maybe because there are 200,000 times more cuban crooks than al quada in u.s.?

just rtfa, 20 agents checking cubans found $8 mil, thats 4000,000 each. 5 guys checking al quadas got 9,000 dollars, whish is 800 each. do the math.

the al quada inspectors are going to be outsourced to india any day now with profit margins like that !
 
2004-04-30 01:03:09 AM
Phil McKraken:

While we are on meaningless discussions, the video from the Orb, "Little Fluffy Clouds", is next to crappy. You know, dungy. Or something.

They have a video for that? Since when?!
 
2004-04-30 01:03:16 AM
I still want to know why the only plane allowed to fly on September, 11th was a plane carrying Osama Bin Laden's relatives.

I STILL WANT TO FARKING KNOW!
 
2004-04-30 01:04:15 AM
D_I_A: Agree with you as well.
 
2004-04-30 01:04:43 AM
STEROIDS! The juice is like a nukular bomb. We must attack your rights to root out the steroids scourge!
 
2004-04-30 01:06:57 AM
Stutz: Zuh?
 
2004-04-30 01:06:58 AM
Could it be because whenever there's a terrorist act in the US, they get to enact whatever laws they want. Yet Castro is a little mouse that keeps telling them that they're not as all powerful as they keep telling themselves they are.

Its just a coincidence that on September 10, 2001 the Pentagon cancelled all domestic carrier air trips that senior Pentagon officials had scheduled for the next day and switched them to military transport.
 
2004-04-30 01:07:30 AM
They went on forever. They... When I... We lived in Arizona, and the skies always had these little fluffy clouds in them. And they were long, clear, and there were lots of stars at night. And when it would rain, they would all turn they were beautiful, the most beautiful skies, as a matter of fact. Um, the sunsets were purple and red and yellow and on fire, and the clouds would catch the colors everywhere. That's, uh, neat cause I used to look at them all the time when I was little. You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
 
2004-04-30 01:09:52 AM
"2004-04-29 09:11:03 PM Dancin_In_Anson

Bad habits are hard to break in Washington..."


-Um, like not protecting the country from terrorism? That ONE bad habit I think the Bush Administration should have kicked by now!
 
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2004-04-30 01:10:38 AM
Futoru

do you have proof? I'm not trying to bea dick I'm actually interested
 
2004-04-30 01:12:45 AM
Dancin_In_Anson

I concur.
During the 50s and 60s, there was there whole big scare that if we didn't fight communism, we would be in danger of becoming a communist country.

What they failed to mention, was that nobody in America wanted to be communist. Not even in the truest sense of the word.

If you went to even the poorest neighborhoods, and said, "ok, were gonna put all our assets in one big hat, and then divide them equally". I guarantee you there would be no (or very few) takers.
 
2004-04-30 01:13:22 AM
another political flamewar eh?

I wonder, how many times does the government officaly have to screw up or tick us off before we can get a new one?

I mean heck, we broke away from england for far less then what the US government has pulled.
 
2004-04-30 01:13:56 AM
Phil:

Ahh, just downloaded the video. How very bizarre. Appears to be 3 dolphins in the clouds in high-orbit around a planet? As if it's not enough of an assault on the senses to have dolphins in orbits, WTF are clouds doing there?

Might as well have a whale and some petunias.
 
2004-04-30 01:14:13 AM
I can 'splain for you, Lucy...

it's the TREASURY dept.

they handle money...

I would suspect the EPA or Bureau of ATF ould a lot more people on the task than the treasury...

maybe the FDA could get terrost warnings going out about Wendy's fast food...pure poison...
 
2004-04-30 01:14:41 AM
Well, that's an easy answer.

Look at anybody Arabic who has a charity or non-profit.

Ta-da! Terrorist funding organization!

You don't need to worry about evidence, 'cause they can be detained indefinately without any.

/wish I was joking
 
2004-04-30 01:14:57 AM
Just more proof that everything that comes out of D.C is a lie. Yea, they have our "best interests" at heart. Yea, they are doing their "best" to "protect us from terrorists."

It's a "laser."

Won't anyone, please, join me in a violent coup of our dictatorshiat?
 
2004-04-30 01:16:12 AM
Fnord,
"I wonder if it'll be friends with me?"

and

"Oh no, not again."
 
2004-04-30 01:17:53 AM
So can I trade a case of Macanudos for Osama?
 
2004-04-30 01:18:08 AM
That's right ...ould...and terrost...they're woreds...just google em...

damn...
 
2004-04-30 01:19:01 AM
Anyway, back to the article.

I sorta wonder if there's more to the story. Perhaps other agencies are handling the main thrust of intercepting terrorist funds?

Also, I can't help but wonder if it's an apples-to-oranges comparison. I can see people trying to do business with Cuba having US bank accounts, and one of the parties is almost certainly goign to be in the US. But with terrorist funds (eg OBL), wouldn't it be much harder? I would assume all the bank accounts are overseas, and tracing money movement would probably be rather hard.

Any banking people have a informed opinion if there's any meat to this story?
 
2004-04-30 01:21:41 AM
I voluteer for the violent coup of our dictatorship. If there is any stench of a fraudulent election on EITHER SIDE my ass is either going to go to Canada or join the revolutionaries. Hell, we are 25 years overdue for a coup anyway.
 
2004-04-30 01:24:54 AM
It's all about money. Duh. Fighting terrorism doesn't make more money.
 
2004-04-30 01:25:00 AM
Fnord
I thought that the FBI had its nasty tentacles on the terror funding coming from the US. The treasury dept's full of farktards anyhow.
 
2004-04-30 01:26:10 AM
I blame the Kennedys
 
2004-04-30 01:26:41 AM
I wonder when the libertarians and greens will wake up to the happy coffee and realize that revolution is the ONLY way we're going to stop the one party system of the Repocrats... Demoblicans... hey, both those work. The repo my income and de nothin but the mindless mob. Woohoo!
 
2004-04-30 01:26:53 AM
That Orb video came out around the time of the Ultraworld EP.
A friend bought it - quite boring and even back then the dolphins seemed rather cliche. Good music, though.
I don't think the US will start being nice to Cuba until after Castro's gone.
 
2004-04-30 01:27:26 AM
Phil McKraken,

considering that the voice samples were recorded from a woman while she was tripping, I think that the dolphin fits in nicely.

as far as the topic: Castro could, I don't know... throw nasty dirty tobacco at the poor defenseless citizens of the US.
 
2004-04-30 01:28:22 AM
Step away from the crack-pipe, McKraken. And HAIL SATAN!!!
 
2004-04-30 01:30:00 AM
"I sorta wonder if there's more to the story. Perhaps other agencies are handling the main thrust of intercepting terrorist funds?..."

If that were the case wouldn't somebody in the gov't be aware of it? From the article that doesn't seem to be the situation. If the answer was a simple allocation of resources thing why would the congress be demanding answers and whole dept's suddenly be reorganized when few simple answers might have killed the story altogether.

Face it: 1. The Bushies don't take terorism seriously
2. Following money trails might lead to uncomfortable places, the global covert economy is huge and deeply entrenched into 'legitimate' business. (rem. BCCI?)
The very people who are swelling Bush's re-election coffers as we speak.
 
2004-04-30 01:32:09 AM
zelet

Umm, ya know, it's funny, we're kinda full tonight. I could call around and try some other countries for you.

Sincerely,

Canada
 
2004-04-30 01:34:37 AM
What if Treasury is right?

What if.....Osama's in Havana RIGHT NOW, funding his terrorists with the profits from Cuban cigars sold to unsuspecting Canadian tourists???!?!?11!!?!?


That's right, when you light up a stogie, you're helping Ahmed make a car bomb.

As if.
 
2004-04-30 01:35:31 AM
Well, at least you guys have your priorities straight.
 
2004-04-30 01:35:40 AM
ummmm... you don't SMOKE and listen to the Orb... silly monkeys.
 
2004-04-30 01:36:56 AM
This whole story is appalling. And for those of you saying that they are onto Cuba because of the 8 mil... you're right, but that's the point. Their incentives and priorities are all wrong, they are acting like cops on quota.
 
2004-04-30 01:36:58 AM
chaoswolf
Amen.
 
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