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2015-09-01 05:58:49 AM  
Healthy isn't important productive is.
 
2015-09-01 06:04:04 AM  
I "rediscovered" afternoon naps after I turned 35. I don't get to take them very often, but, yeah.
 
2015-09-01 06:08:43 AM  

EvilEgg: Healthy isn't important productive is.


That makes so much sense....
 
2015-09-01 07:27:44 AM  
I catch what sleep I can, when I can. Morning, noon, or night, if I'm both tired, and not needed anywhere? Sleep it is.

I don't know if it's healthy, but it's quite a bit less miserable than the insomnia I battled for the first twenty years. Quality of life over quantity, I suppose.
 
2015-09-01 07:31:24 AM  

EvilEgg: Healthy isn't important productive is.


Came to say this. Your boss only cares whether you are just healthy and happy enough to keep producing.
 
2015-09-01 07:37:20 AM  

Unobtanium: I "rediscovered" afternoon naps after I turned 35. I don't get to take them very often, but, yeah.


I work at a small (about 30 people) company and I try to take one in the afternoon.  The problems are that I should take a 20 min nap but I technically only have a 15 min break (but, nobody is really paying attention to my break schedule) and that there is no real quiet place to take a nap.  The couches in the break room are super comfortable, and I try to take a break about 20-25 mins after everybody else so I can have it to myself, but about 50% of the time you get some asshole coming in and talking on his cell phone (which there are other places to talk privately, and you see me taking a nap, so why do you continue to talk?!), or somebody getting something from the fridge and making too much noise.  I have started wearing headphones when taking a nap to negate that background noise.  If the weather is nice out I will go pass out in my car.

Afterwards I feel not only more productive I also seem to solve problems that have been hounding me all day, since it allows me to clear my head.
 
2015-09-01 07:52:13 AM  
That means the douchbag I used to work is a farking immortal.
 
2015-09-01 07:53:58 AM  

Burr: Unobtanium: I "rediscovered" afternoon naps after I turned 35. I don't get to take them very often, but, yeah.

I work at a small (about 30 people) company and I try to take one in the afternoon.  The problems are that I should take a 20 min nap but I technically only have a 15 min break (but, nobody is really paying attention to my break schedule) and that there is no real quiet place to take a nap.  The couches in the break room are super comfortable, and I try to take a break about 20-25 mins after everybody else so I can have it to myself, but about 50% of the time you get some asshole coming in and talking on his cell phone (which there are other places to talk privately, and you see me taking a nap, so why do you continue to talk?!), or somebody getting something from the fridge and making too much noise.  I have started wearing headphones when taking a nap to negate that background noise.  If the weather is nice out I will go pass out in my car.

Afterwards I feel not only more productive I also seem to solve problems that have been hounding me all day, since it allows me to clear my head.


Since I'd assume the breakroom is for all to use, it doesn't suddenly become your private bedroom just because you happen to be napping in it.
 
2015-09-01 07:54:11 AM  
I don't nap, but my boss does often. He also doesn't give a fark about my posting on Fark.

He's a giant douche in many ways, but actually fairly ok in others.
 
2015-09-01 08:02:57 AM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Your boss only cares whether you are just healthy and happy enough to keep producing.

Uh, no.  Your bosses not only don't care if you're not healthy or happy, they WANT you to be unhealthy, exhausted and miserable even at the blatant expense of productivity.  If the data is any indication, based purely on the decisions we make, productivity is not the goal; your misery is.  Yes, your bosses are really that stupid.

We have reams and reams and reams of studies on how to maximize worker productivity and every page of it is universally ignored in favor of making workers as miserable as possible in the delusion that control and exploitation lead to higher productivity.  That may apply for low-skill jobs that are or eventually will be cheaper to automate anyway, but we've known for decades that's not how white-collar labor works.  We are basically still managing our workforce like an incrementally civilized version of 19th century factories.  The stark contrast of our laughably primitive management techniques to every study done on the matter is as dumb as if we swapped all our computers with adding machines, yet while we've replaced our IT infrastructure several times over the whip-cracking ideology stubbornly lives on.

Not that the truth will change anything; it's had plenty of time to do that already.  Problem is, the way we manage our workforce is SO outrageously dumb that economists and investors find it baffling to the point that they'll exhibit cult levels of denial.  We invest so much into making our workers miserable, it has to work.  It's tough for megalomaniacs and sociopaths to admit they're that stupendously wrong.
 
2015-09-01 08:03:30 AM  

Creoena: Since I'd assume the breakroom is for all to use, it doesn't suddenly become your private bedroom just because you happen to be napping in it


No, I understand that that I am not special and the break room is for all, but there are many other places to take a private phone call (plenty of empty conference rooms and office spaces, which is where I usually go when I want to if the weather is bad outside).  Some common courtesy would be nice however, I know that I wouldn't interrupt somebody taking a nap on their break in the only room that has a couch to take a  15 min personal phonecall about your kids soccer team.
 
2015-09-01 08:14:18 AM  
I take short naps on the toilet at work.  The trick is to find one that's not in a high traffic area, but has enough patronage so that you don't accidentally stay in there for half an hour.
 
2015-09-01 08:14:39 AM  

Creoena: Burr:
I work at a small (about 30 people) company and I try to take one in the afternoon.  The problems are that I should take a 20 min nap but I technically only have a 15 min break (but, nobody is really paying attention to my break schedule) and that there is no real quiet place to take a nap.  The couches in the break room are super comfortable, and I try to take a break about 20-25 mins after everybody else so I can have it to myself, but about 50% of the time you get some asshole coming in and talking on his cell phone (which there are other places to talk privately, and you see me taking a nap, so why do you continue to talk?!), or somebody getting something from the fridge and making too much noise.  I have started wearing headphones when taking a nap to negate that background noise.  If the weather is nice out I will go pass out in my car.

Afterwards I feel not only more productive I also seem to solve problems that have been hounding me all day, since it allows me to clear my head.

Since I'd assume the breakroom is for all to use, it doesn't suddenly become your private bedroom just because you happen to be napping in it.


This. I love a good nap. Hell, I'll be sixty next year, so I'm in the zone. But would I nap at work? Hell no! And would I expect my colleagues to respect my nap time? I would expect them to heap scorn on me, as I would on them. You can't do that shiat,  even if it is technically your break time. It reflects poorly on you.

/ Did I just fall for a troll? I kinda hope so.
 
2015-09-01 08:20:54 AM  

dragonchild: Uh, no.  Your bosses not only don't care if you're not healthy or happy, they WANT you to be unhealthy, exhausted and miserable even at the blatant expense of productivity.  If the data is any indication, based purely on the decisions we make, productivity is not the goal; your misery is.  Yes, your bosses are really that stupid.


I work for a pretty good company and have an absolutely stellar manager but based what I hear from peers at other companies, especially in the game industry, you're spot on.

Burr: No, I understand that that I am not special and the break room is for all, but there are many other places to take a private phone call (plenty of empty conference rooms and office spaces, which is where I usually go when I want to if the weather is bad outside).  Some common courtesy would be nice however, I know that I wouldn't interrupt somebody taking a nap on their break in the only room that has a couch to take a  15 min personal phonecall about your kids soccer team.


As a society we don't really support people sleeping outside of their homes to the point where we will wake them up on the assumption that they have fallen asleep by mistake.
 
2015-09-01 08:24:57 AM  

Jesus McSordid: Creoena: Burr:
I work at a small (about 30 people) company and I try to take one in the afternoon.  The problems are that I should take a 20 min nap but I technically only have a 15 min break (but, nobody is really paying attention to my break schedule) and that there is no real quiet place to take a nap.  The couches in the break room are super comfortable, and I try to take a break about 20-25 mins after everybody else so I can have it to myself, but about 50% of the time you get some asshole coming in and talking on his cell phone (which there are other places to talk privately, and you see me taking a nap, so why do you continue to talk?!), or somebody getting something from the fridge and making too much noise.  I have started wearing headphones when taking a nap to negate that background noise.  If the weather is nice out I will go pass out in my car.

Afterwards I feel not only more productive I also seem to solve problems that have been hounding me all day, since it allows me to clear my head.

Since I'd assume the breakroom is for all to use, it doesn't suddenly become your private bedroom just because you happen to be napping in it.

This. I love a good nap. Hell, I'll be sixty next year, so I'm in the zone. But would I nap at work? Hell no! And would I expect my colleagues to respect my nap time? I would expect them to heap scorn on me, as I would on them. You can't do that shiat,  even if it is technically your break time. It reflects poorly on you.

/ Did I just fall for a troll? I kinda hope so.


Too bad for you, nap at work results in improved everything
 
2015-09-01 08:35:27 AM  

Jesus McSordid: It reflects poorly on you.


Why does it reflect poorly?  I take a 15-20 min nap, gives me an extra boost of energy and helps clear my mind.  I do a lot of tech based problem solving at work and my mind will get on a certain track.  After a nap I usually notice that I get off that track and have a fresh perspective on the situation, lets me think of different solutions and I usually solve the issue afterwards.  Same with a walk (which I usually do in the mornings), give myself a chance to clear the clutter out.

It's my break time, why should you or anybody else care how I spend it, as long as it falls in the parameters that are given by my employer.  And like I said above, I have been wearing noise cancelling headphones now after getting woken up all the time.
 
2015-09-01 08:38:47 AM  
If I had an office, I would nap at lunch

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I've taken some cat naps in my car but it's not the most comfortable
 
2015-09-01 08:39:08 AM  
I work in a cube grid, and I've been kicking back and napping for the second half of my lunch hour pretty regularly for years. I'm good at it; people sometimes drop stuff off on my desk without me waking up.
 
2015-09-01 08:42:44 AM  
In my day we scheduled nap time for all in the form of afternoon seminars.
 
2015-09-01 08:43:45 AM  

FoxholeAtheist: I work in a cube grid, and I've been kicking back and napping for the second half of my lunch hour pretty regularly for years. I'm good at it; people sometimes drop stuff off on my desk without me waking up.


I would do that if I had a cube.  Damn open office environment here.
 
2015-09-01 08:49:40 AM  
I'll read it right after my nap.
 
2015-09-01 08:50:49 AM  
Never intended to take a nap in my cube, but its hard not to when youve had an all you can eat sushi lunch...
 
2015-09-01 09:23:52 AM  

dragonchild: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Your boss only cares whether you are just healthy and happy enough to keep producing.
Uh, no.  Your bosses not only don't care if you're not healthy or happy, they WANT you to be unhealthy, exhausted and miserable even at the blatant expense of productivity.  If the data is any indication, based purely on the decisions we make, productivity is not the goal; your misery is.  Yes, your bosses are really that stupid.

We have reams and reams and reams of studies on how to maximize worker productivity and every page of it is universally ignored in favor of making workers as miserable as possible in the delusion that control and exploitation lead to higher productivity.  That may apply for low-skill jobs that are or eventually will be cheaper to automate anyway, but we've known for decades that's not how white-collar labor works.  We are basically still managing our workforce like an incrementally civilized version of 19th century factories.  The stark contrast of our laughably primitive management techniques to every study done on the matter is as dumb as if we swapped all our computers with adding machines, yet while we've replaced our IT infrastructure several times over the whip-cracking ideology stubbornly lives on.

Not that the truth will change anything; it's had plenty of time to do that already.  Problem is, the way we manage our workforce is SO outrageously dumb that economists and investors find it baffling to the point that they'll exhibit cult levels of denial.  We invest so much into making our workers miserable, it has to work.  It's tough for megalomaniacs and sociopaths to admit they're that stupendously wrong.


/newsletter, please

// preach it

/// so farking much this
 
2015-09-01 09:36:10 AM  
Ha, I love mid-day naps. Being a teacher, I can either lock my room during prep period and curl up on the floor, or go home since I'm only 10 minutes away. Plus my prep time and lunch are back-to-back, so I get a 2 hour block of time.
 
2015-09-01 09:49:05 AM  
for my 1 hour lunch break, I eat my lunch in my car and take a 30 min nap too. it's nice :)


/so bored with this new job....
 
2015-09-01 10:14:04 AM  
I love naps and used to work close enough to home that during my hour lunch, I could drive home, make a quick lunch, eat and lay down on my couch for a 22 minute nap every day.  I set the stove timer for my alarm.  I felt so much better for it and would go back to work refreshed.  I worked for Satan, though, so didn't stay at the job more than a year.

Not so CSS:

Another company I worked for several years ago had a lactation room that was never used.  I know this because my cube was right next to it.  I asked if I could use it for naps.  Nope.  Lactation only, so unless I was lactating, I was SOL.  Another friend/co-worker noticed that the lactation room was never used (actually, I'm the one who told her when I was complaining about being denied the use of it one day) she then decided to take up her own campaign of putting to use a completely unused space and petitioned her supervisor and then HR to let her use it for daily prayers (she was Muslim).  Well, that fight went back and forth for about 2 months, and unlike me, she didn't back down and they eventually let her use it.  Guess I should have stuck to my guns (pillows?) and persisted.  So many companies have lactation rooms that are either never or seldom used and IMHO, they should just be reclassified as "quiet" rooms and booked in 15-30 minute intervals through Outlook just like any other conference room with the stipulation that they can only be used during breaks/lunches.

But, as has been pointed out already, in the US, employers do not care about the health or well-being of their employees and in many scenarios really seem hell-bent on grinding their workforce into a fine powder all in the name of productivity.  It is such BS as naps (and probably the prayer time my friend had) really can help to re-calibrate a person and sharpen their focus for the remainder of the workday.

/currently unemployed so I nap when I want
//have napped on the toilet at work before 5-10 minute cat naps and then back to work, but they're not as good as a 20-25 minute nap, plus, sitting on the toilet is not an ideal place for a snooze
 
2015-09-01 10:14:26 AM  

Burr: Jesus McSordid: It reflects poorly on you.

Why does it reflect poorly?  I take a 15-20 min nap, gives me an extra boost of energy and helps clear my mind.  I do a lot of tech based problem solving at work and my mind will get on a certain track.  After a nap I usually notice that I get off that track and have a fresh perspective on the situation, lets me think of different solutions and I usually solve the issue afterwards.  Same with a walk (which I usually do in the mornings), give myself a chance to clear the clutter out.

It's my break time, why should you or anybody else care how I spend it, as long as it falls in the parameters that are given by my employer.  And like I said above, I have been wearing noise cancelling headphones now after getting woken up all the time.


It shouldn't, but in our work to the grave culture, it does.

Lets say it's promotion time.  Are they going to give it to the guy that stays at his desk and looks productive during all his breaks (lunch and otherwise) and maybe stays late and comes in early (while accomplishing little) or the guy everyone sees napping in the lunch room all the time (but who, is actually, more productive).

Productivity can be hard to measure.  The path of least resistance is to give the promotion to the guy putting in the hours.  Many studies/books have come out showing that people who nap during breaks and stick to 40 hours tend to accomplish more then the "work my life away" types.  Hopefully you have good enough management that they can identify this.

It's not right, but it is what it is.
 
2015-09-01 10:23:19 AM  
It sure would be nice to be able to take an afternoon nap without it becoming evening.
 
2015-09-01 10:45:49 AM  

akya: Lets say it's promotion time.  Are they going to give it to the guy that stays at his desk and looks productive during all his breaks (lunch and otherwise) and maybe stays late and comes in early (while accomplishing little) or the guy everyone sees napping in the lunch room all the time (but who, is actually, more productive).


I guess I am spoiled by working for a small tech company.  When there is only about 20-30 people in the office things get noticed.  Also, I am not usually at my desk because I am kind of a "bridge" between the production room and IT so I am usually running back and forth.
 
2015-09-01 10:49:47 AM  
And a wank as well.

That's one of the best things about freelancing that I'll miss: the mid-day wank. And being able to go grocery shopping mid-morning.
 
2015-09-01 11:08:32 AM  

gaslight: And a wank as well.

That's one of the best things about freelancing that I'll miss: the mid-day wank. And being able to go grocery shopping mid-morning.


Helpful hints, you can probably get a wank in during lunch (I don't know, I'm not a guy, but if you have an hour and a quiet bathroom stall...and 20 minutes your timing may vary)
Grocery shopping can be done online and then just pick up on your way home.

/suggestions only, I also miss working from home.  Not for that reason, but it can be a valid one.
//I'm thinking about going in that direction again, even though it doesn't pay shiat and it may be worth purchasing an upgraded PC.  Call center work sucks, though.
///I'd still take a nap over pleasuring myself, but that's me.
 
2015-09-01 12:58:02 PM  
I really need to show this article to my wife.  Between chronic pain caused by back problems, pain from a surgery 3 months ago to correct said back problems, the physical therapy I have to do, aches from mild withdrawal due to a slow taper off Oxy I'm currently working on with my doctor (reducing my pain meds to see if I have opiod induced hyperalgesia), and severe depression, I really don't sleep well.  Averaging 4-5 hours of sleep per night spread out over about 10 hours or so in bed.  I also have hypertension from a mix of weight gain since my injury (which, to my annoyance, doesn't seem interested in going down even though I've dropped about 30 lbs in the last few months), genetic predisposition, and the aforementioned chronic pain. Just about every time I do my afternoon/early evening exercises, I need to recline on and ice pack to take the pressure off my spine for a while and help with inflammation.  I almost always start falling asleep at this time from the exhaustion caused by the PT.  Left to my own devices I could probably fall asleep every time.  My wife always wakes me up though.  She's trying to help, thinking that if I sleep in the late afternoon I'll have a harder time sleeping at night.  It did make sense at first, but since I haven't been able to sleep well for months regardless of whether I nap or not, I'm thinking at this point I should just take any sleep I can get. Maybe if I have her read this, the correlation between napping and reduced BP will change her thoughts on it.  She doesn't handle disagreement well, so this could help.  Either way I plan to begin napping though.
 
2015-09-01 07:12:18 PM  

Burr: Jesus McSordid: It reflects poorly on you.

Why does it reflect poorly?  I take a 15-20 min nap, gives me an extra boost of energy and helps clear my mind.  I do a lot of tech based problem solving at work and my mind will get on a certain track.  After a nap I usually notice that I get off that track and have a fresh perspective on the situation, lets me think of different solutions and I usually solve the issue afterwards.  Same with a walk (which I usually do in the mornings), give myself a chance to clear the clutter out.

It's my break time, why should you or anybody else care how I spend it, as long as it falls in the parameters that are given by my employer.  And like I said above, I have been wearing noise cancelling headphones now after getting woken up all the time.


It reflects poorly because it makes you look weird and weak. It could also be taken to indicate that you're not getting enough sleep at night, and people will wonder if your work might suffer thereby. And, yeah, people shouldn't have to tiptoe around the break room because you're occupying it like Goldilocks. And yes, I'm in a technical role (developer), and I can usually get my mind out of a rut by taking a quick walk or chatting with a colleague.

I'm absolutely certain that my contract would not be renewed if I indulged in this type of behaviour. And not just because I snore like an adenoidal pig.
 
2015-09-02 05:29:03 AM  
man i have  never been able to nap. i therefore resent all of you who can and do enjoy this activity.
 
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