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2015-09-01 01:50:57 AM  
That was pretty interesting.
Thanks, Mars Inc!

/ not to mention the scientists
 
2015-09-01 02:26:56 AM  
B-b-b-b-b-ut GMOs!!!!111 wharghaf;adflkadf;s
 
2015-09-01 02:30:42 AM  

baronbloodbath: B-b-b-b-b-ut GMOs!!!!111 wharghaf;adflkadf;s


Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"
 
2015-09-01 02:32:53 AM  
Thinking Machine super-computers and gene sequencers break down the strand in minutes. And virtual-reality displays show our geneticists the gaps in the D.N.A. sequence.
 We use the complete D.N.A. of a coffee bean to fill in the holes...and complete the....code!

And now, we're ready to make a baby chocolate bar.
 
2015-09-01 02:45:42 AM  
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2015-09-01 02:57:06 AM  
Delicious frankenchocolate
 
2015-09-01 02:58:41 AM  
Imagine how much death this has prevented about every 28 days.
 
2015-09-01 03:02:48 AM  
GM OHES NOES!!!11!eleventy!!111!!

Errybody PANIC!
 
2015-09-01 03:04:09 AM  

GloomCookie613: GM OHES NOES!!!11!eleventy!!111!!

Errybody PANIC!


GMO CHOCOLATE!!! EVERYBODY PICNIC!!!
 
2015-09-01 03:04:30 AM  

lewismarktwo: Imagine how much death this has prevented about every 28 days.


My husband came home from work and threw a Milky Way Dark into the room before entering. He's learning.
 
2015-09-01 03:05:22 AM  
Technology + chocolate = love at first byte.
 
2015-09-01 03:08:24 AM  

GloomCookie613: lewismarktwo: Imagine how much death this has prevented about every 28 days.

My husband came home from work and threw a Milky Way Dark into the room before entering. He's learning.


shiat, usually I just wear a condom
 
2015-09-01 03:16:25 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: [assets.dogtime.com image 460x253]

That looks a lot more like a Weimaraner.
 
2015-09-01 03:21:15 AM  
What if chocolate causes autism?
How many pregnant mothers consumed chocolate before giving birth?
 
2015-09-01 03:23:40 AM  

ImpendingCynic: Danger Avoid Death: [assets.dogtime.com image 460x253]
That looks a lot more like a Weimaraner.


It does.
 
2015-09-01 03:28:22 AM  
Did I miss something?  The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything.  Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified.  From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.
 
2015-09-01 03:29:14 AM  

Rezurok: Did I miss something?  The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything.  Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified.  From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.


Eat a snickers. You're not yourself when you're hungry.
 
2015-09-01 03:31:35 AM  

Rezurok: Did I miss something?  The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything.  Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified.  From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.


What he said, only in a more polite tone since I'm Canadian. I saw a lot of theory on how this could help, but no reference to it actually helping yet.
 
2015-09-01 03:35:09 AM  

BigJT: Rezurok: Did I miss something?  The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything.  Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified.  From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.

What he said, only in a more polite tone since I'm Canadian. I saw a lot of theory on how this could help, but no reference to it actually helping yet.


Eat some chocolate moose. You're not yourself when you're hungry.
 
2015-09-01 03:41:31 AM  
I just had a snickers and the article's premise still doesn't match the content.  I doubt the results will be different in Canada, but I'll refrain from making assumptions just yet.
 
2015-09-01 03:45:12 AM  
Chocolate moose are hard to catch, particularly in the city whete they're more rare. To confirm the hypothesis that I'm not myself when I'm hungry, we may have to just wait until I've had breakfast.
 
2015-09-01 03:49:46 AM  
Subby: "If you like the fact that you're not paying $35 for a bar of chocolate, you should read how scientists sequenced the genes of cacao plants to make them resistant to disease"

Pretty sure sequencing the genes didn't make them resistant to anything. The word you're looking for is "modified".
 
2015-09-01 03:52:49 AM  

BigJT: Chocolate moose are hard to catch, particularly in the city whete they're more rare. To confirm the hypothesis that I'm not myself when I'm hungry, we may have to just wait until I've had breakfast.


You racist! Chocolate Mousse is a hero and I'll not have you speak of him as some sort of animal!
 
2015-09-01 04:00:01 AM  
Chocolate mousse was the first to die in Belgium and I will not stand for such flippant discussion.
 
2015-09-01 04:01:22 AM  

Begoggle: What if chocolate causes autism?
How many pregnant mothers consumed chocolate before giving birth?


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It's clear that organic food causes autism.
 
2015-09-01 04:11:37 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: ImpendingCynic: Danger Avoid Death: [assets.dogtime.com image 460x253]
That looks a lot more like a Weimaraner.

It does.


I've always considered weimaraners genetically modified versions of labs.  You can tell cause their personalities are just a little off.
 
2015-09-01 04:11:47 AM  
I do appreciate that. Next, change your food health and safety regulations because I have to live in America and I MISS MY KINDER EGGS.
 
2015-09-01 04:13:20 AM  

BigJT: Rezurok: Did I miss something?  The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything.  Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified.  From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.

What he said, only in a more polite tone since I'm Canadian. I saw a lot of theory on how this could help, but no reference to it actually helping yet.


This. Recent advancements in next-gen sequencing and high-thouroughput genomics are interesting enough by themselves without fabricating additional details.
 
2015-09-01 04:33:03 AM  
Well since everything has been covered I will say this. I like my Chocolate like I like my women...sweet.

My girlfriend was bitten by a chocolate moose. She bit it back and it was delicious.

So if you ever see a chocolate moose with a bite out of its ear that is my girlfriends work.
 
2015-09-01 04:48:50 AM  

wildcardjack: Begoggle: What if chocolate causes autism?
How many pregnant mothers consumed chocolate before giving birth?

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It's clear that organic food causes autism.


Maybe, but I'm surprised they are selling autistic children so successfully.
How much does one cost?
 
2015-09-01 05:18:04 AM  
I smell a market for $35 non-GMO chocolate bars.
 
2015-09-01 05:24:33 AM  

Likwit: baronbloodbath: B-b-b-b-b-ut GMOs!!!!111 wharghaf;adflkadf;s

Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"


Sure, but the problem is the rabid anti-GMO crowd who try like hell to kill anything GMO-related by claiming that it causes stuff ranging from cancer to wormdick (and you can guarantee there are those out there that'll believe it). Until you can basically kill the stupid it's kind of detrimental to label them. It'll happen sooner or later, but not i the near future I'd wager.
 
2015-09-01 05:45:42 AM  
From the article and the headline it seems that between 'late 80s' and sometime after 2008 the chocolate bars were $35, although I remember differently.
 
2015-09-01 05:50:47 AM  

Iczer: Likwit: baronbloodbath: B-b-b-b-b-ut GMOs!!!!111 wharghaf;adflkadf;s

Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"

Sure, but the problem is the rabid anti-GMO crowd who try like hell to kill anything GMO-related by claiming that it causes stuff ranging from cancer to wormdick (and you can guarantee there are those out there that'll believe it). Until you can basically kill the stupid it's kind of detrimental to label them. It'll happen sooner or later, but not i the near future I'd wager.


What we need is a timeline to set for GMO foods.  If we go back one hundred years than JUST ABOUT EVERY THING would have to be labeled GMO.

Everything modified the day after tomorrow has to be labeled GMO including human babies.
 
2015-09-01 06:38:58 AM  
They did the same thing to the wine plants in the Napa Valley a while back. A real bad strain of blight worked its way up the valley and essentially was taking over everything until researchers came up with a blight resistant root. Now all the plants have are spliced together with those roots.
 
2015-09-01 06:53:14 AM  

Clash City Farker: They did the same thing to the wine plants in the Napa Valley a while back.


They're called "grapes".
 
2015-09-01 07:09:16 AM  
DON'T CARE GOT CHOCOLATE
 
2015-09-01 07:11:12 AM  

UsikFark: Chocolate mousse was the first to die in Belgium and I will not stand for such flippant discussion.


A chocolate mousse once bit my sister.
 
2015-09-01 07:55:24 AM  

baronbloodbath: B-b-b-b-b-ut GMOs!!!!111 wharghaf;adflkadf;s


Gene sequencing for desirable traits and GMOs are different things.
 
2015-09-01 07:56:30 AM  

Begoggle: What if chocolate causes autism?
How many pregnant mothers consumed chocolate before giving birth?


It's actually the mercury in chocolate that causes it duh. They've been covering it for years.
 
2015-09-01 08:39:07 AM  
fark chocolate. I wish they'd find a way to re-introduce the Gros Michels bananas from when I was a kid.
 
2015-09-01 08:40:50 AM  
I read a second article on this subject that says the major candy companies are still working on new plants.  The headline is inaccurate -- probably should have said "Can It Save?"
 
2015-09-01 08:51:21 AM  

Clash City Farker: They did the same thing to the wine plants in the Napa Valley a while back. A real bad strain of blight worked its way up the valley and essentially was taking over everything until researchers came up with a blight resistant root. Now all the plants have are spliced together with those roots.


You mean grafted?

Grafting and splicing are different things in botanical usage.
 
2015-09-01 08:58:03 AM  

Likwit: baronbloodbath: B-b-b-b-b-ut GMOs!!!!111 wharghaf;adflkadf;s

Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"


The story kind of tapers off after they sequenced the cacao plant's genome and doesn't say what they've done with the info if anything. But I got from the earlier part that the intent seemed to be to use the genome as an aid to crossbreeding. If so, then the result wouldn't qualify as a GMO.
 
2015-09-01 09:28:42 AM  

Rezurok: Did I miss something?  The headline says this machine saved chocolate, and goes on to explain how they sequenced the genome of chocolate plants without ever connecting the dots to say how it saved anything.  Sure, the data in theory would be useful to determine which plants are more disease resistant, but it never said when or if the disease resistant plants have been identified.  From what I read in the article the machine hasn't done jack shiat that's proven useful thus far and chocolate isn't $35 a bar simply because that's a fantasy scenario some guy made up for an article.


In addition to disease resistance, they'll also use this to remove bitterness. Remove bitterness.
 
2015-09-01 09:39:58 AM  
Will anti-GMO people please stop eating chocolate?  Thanks.

Sincerely,
Everyone else
 
2015-09-01 09:44:10 AM  
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2015-09-01 09:44:10 AM  

Gawdzila: I smell a market for $35 non-GMO chocolate bars.


Only if it is fair trade, artisinal and a portion of the profits is used to saved the endangered tropical banana shrew.
 
2015-09-01 09:54:17 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Clash City Farker: They did the same thing to the wine plants in the Napa Valley a while back.

They're called "grapes".


Sometimes they are called dirty lazy hippies.
 
2015-09-01 09:54:38 AM  

Likwit: baronbloodbath: B-b-b-b-b-ut GMOs!!!!111 wharghaf;adflkadf;s

Waiting for this exact thing. My favorite are the "label it" concern trolls. "I don't have anything against GMOs, and I eat them myself, but it just doesn't make sense that they won't label it guys. Don't we have a right to know?"


So about 12 years ago I took a class called "Sociopolitics of Science" and the other day I found a 50 page article I'd saved on GMOs. I guess I was planning on reading it in its entirety. Before I tossed it I skimmed it and what I found interesting was that it mostly focused on religious concerns. Quite a few major religions have restrictions on food or mixing of materials, which I could see being a major point for GMO labeling. Although, if you take a gene commonly found in a flax plant and insert it into a cotton plant, is it even a "flax" gene?
 
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