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(CBC)   Line ups at the pump cause "insanity." Surely you can't be creating a phoney gas shortage again? Why yes, yes we are. And don't call us Shirley   (cbc.ca) divider line
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2015-08-31 09:28:00 PM  
"When you get gas panics like this you always worry a little bit," he said. "But nobody was violent, just a lot of upset people."

I guess that's as close to insanity as you're going to get in Canada.
 
2015-08-31 09:39:34 PM  
"phoney"?

Sigh.
 
2015-08-31 09:50:44 PM  
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing gas.
 
2015-08-31 09:58:08 PM  
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2015-09-01 12:16:53 AM  
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2015-09-01 12:16:56 AM  
I like to try imagining what long lines at a Canadian gas pump would look like, no honking horns, no angry fistfights, just a bunch of mildly disgruntled people in blue jeans and checkered vests making desultory small talk about the weather and wondering when the gosh darn line is gonna move.

/American
//From Texas
///Cant even imagine how bad this would have been here
 
2015-09-01 12:17:00 AM  
There are horrible times when I stop to think that maybe people aren't insane because they're sick or injured, but they're called insane because they've thought about things and have come to terrible conclusions.
 
2015-09-01 12:17:07 AM  
"A late delivery of gasoline to the Imperial Oil terminal in Dartmouth has caused many filling stations across the province to run out of fuel."

Dammit, we were trying to avoid Imperial entanglements!
 
2015-09-01 12:19:49 AM  
Even worse, they ran out of choco tacos!!
 
2015-09-01 12:25:14 AM  
So I found this pic of the gas crisis in the 70's.

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And it struck me that there are probably Farkers out there who have never experienced this "Full Serve" thing this sign is advertising.
 
2015-09-01 12:26:49 AM  
Those pictures are comical.  While that line is a bit more than I face most days its far from insanity.  I am sure the line at my local gas station gets longer than that several times a week.
 
2015-09-01 12:32:59 AM  

Spankubb: I like to try imagining what long lines at a Canadian gas pump would look like, no honking horns, no angry fistfights, just a bunch of mildly disgruntled people in blue jeans and checkered vests making desultory small talk about the weather and wondering when the gosh darn line is gonna move.

/American
//From Texas
///Cant even imagine how bad this would have been here


you forgot the beer.

We'd crack a beer.
 
2015-09-01 12:37:25 AM  

gnosis301: There are horrible times when I stop to think that maybe people aren't insane because they're sick or injured, but they're called insane because they've thought about things and have come to terrible conclusions.


This...
 
2015-09-01 12:38:11 AM  
Csb: i remember waiting in one particular gas line which stretched around the block, 1978 or so. Odd one day even the next based on third number of license plate. Arsehole cut in front of me so we yelled at each other for an hour. Get to the gas station driveway after all that and my plate was an even number. On an odd day. So i got laughed at and got nothing.
/gas lines suck.
 
2015-09-01 12:43:12 AM  
Nova Scotia? They didn't even legalize insulin until the mid 1980s.
 
2015-09-01 12:44:31 AM  
It's adorable that the station owner projects that the 'big guys' are trying to drive up the prices in the lucrative market of Nova Scotia. It's a late delivery.
 
2015-09-01 12:48:05 AM  
$2.39 in supreme? Watching tpb the movie now.
 
2015-09-01 12:51:56 AM  

AbuHashish: Nova Scotia?


It's Spanish for "Scotia won't go".
 
2015-09-01 12:53:17 AM  
"Line ups" subby? Really?

Couldn't just use "lines" or possibly the far more informative "queues"?

/trying not to imagine how the good cop/bad cop routine manages multiple successive drivers...
 
2015-09-01 01:00:24 AM  
Fark queue = line in front of a ho'house...
 
2015-09-01 01:03:07 AM  

AbuHashish: Nova Scotia? They didn't even legalize insulin until the mid 1980s.


Too be honest, I don't know why it's there.  You could walk across the "province" in half a day.
 
2015-09-01 01:13:56 AM  
as an American I was taught that the R.C.M.P. Rode through the wilderness on horses, so why do they need gas?
 
2015-09-01 01:19:37 AM  

Salmon: Spankubb: I like to try imagining what long lines at a Canadian gas pump would look like, no honking horns, no angry fistfights, just a bunch of mildly disgruntled people in blue jeans and checkered vests making desultory small talk about the weather and wondering when the gosh darn line is gonna move.

/American
//From Texas
///Cant even imagine how bad this would have been here

you forgot the beer.

We'd crack a beer.


A Molsen's, eh?
My mental image of Canada is basically just America circa 1987, but more polite. Feathered mullets and all...
 
2015-09-01 01:19:43 AM  
Why would I cause a shortage if I won't raise prices?
 
2015-09-01 01:22:37 AM  

gnosis301: There are horrible times when I stop to think that maybe people aren't insane because they're sick or injured, but they're called insane because they've thought about things and have come to terrible conclusions.


This is why when you come to those conclusions you keep that shiat to yourself.
 
2015-09-01 01:22:54 AM  

Salmon: Spankubb: I like to try imagining what long lines at a Canadian gas pump would look like, no honking horns, no angry fistfights, just a bunch of mildly disgruntled people in blue jeans and checkered vests making desultory small talk about the weather and wondering when the gosh darn line is gonna move.

/American
//From Texas
///Cant even imagine how bad this would have been here

you forgot the beer.

We'd crack a beer.


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2015-09-01 01:30:01 AM  
Spankupand Danger:

Yes and yes.

My wife won't let me grow one, and that trap would be full.

/ not being sarcastic.
 
2015-09-01 01:36:40 AM  

Spankubb: ///Cant even imagine how bad this would have been here

My dad told me a great story from the '70s gas crisis. There was a long line of cars waiting at a station, and some woman drove up and cut near the front of the line. Everyone was honking and yelling at her, but she just sat there looking straight ahead and ignoring everyone. Then one guy walks up to her car, puts his locking gas cap on her tank, dangles the key in her face, and throws it in the sewer.

I'm amazed we survived that era.
 
2015-09-01 01:37:20 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: So I found this pic of the gas crisis in the 70's.

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And it struck me that there are probably Farkers out there who have never experienced this "Full Serve" thing this sign is advertising.


Oregon and New Jersey do not allow self-service gas.
I'm old enough to remember full service, but it was pointless back then. I accidentally pulled into the full serve section a couple of times, but not on purpose.
 
2015-09-01 01:38:59 AM  
The price decrease last week hit him hard because he bought his supply just before the price drop. - But he passes along the savings to customers when he buys before the price increases. Riiiiight.
 
2015-09-01 01:41:52 AM  
Ironically enough, one of my favorite memories growing up was my mom picking me up from kindergarten and then sitting in the gas lines in the mid-70's (odd-even days)...  Sounds strange, but I was the youngest and sitting in those lines meant I had my mother's undivided attention for an hour or two... it was great for me.... Maybe not so much for her, but thankfully my mom and I were always very close...  The gas lines surely didn't hurt the cause...
 
2015-09-01 02:43:42 AM  
gnosis301

There are horrible times when I stop to think that maybe people aren't insane because they're sick or injured, but they're called insane because they've thought about things and have come to terrible conclusions.

Ya think?

I have a dim view of people in general, but toss in the rapidly advancing computer technology, the ability to easily communicate from nearly anywhere, the now very rapid fire exchange of ideas and the difficulty in keeping secrets and after to slam the obvious in their faces enough times, people get wise.

In one of my posts many moons ago, I pointed out the advantage of oil companies to create major and minor fuel shortages to keep profits high. I also pointed out the advantage of them doing everything they could to stall the creation of alternative energy sources until they managed to buy heavily into them. I don't suppose you've noticed how the 'free fuel from used cooking oil' guys have vanished, the grease and all is no longer free and companies now squabble to buy up the drums of the gunk and whisk it off to commercial processing plants. The bio-diesel now costs nearly as much as diesel from crude.

Major oil companies responsible for major spills have still not finished their billion dollar clean-ups nor have they made full reparations to the hundreds of thousands of people they affected.

Read about how oil companies have targeted the Amish, drilling on their lands and quietly offering wildly different payments to each land owner, and going back on their word on some. They also have used slant drilling to tap into oil reserves on Amish lands while drilling on nearly land. Since the Amish do not believe in suing, the oil companies are screwing them blind and getting away with it.

Decades ago, they put up refineries all over the place until the Ecology People made a huge fuss because even back then, such plants polluted the areas around them and oil companies did not want to spend the money fixing them. So, Congress slapped them with heavy restrictions, and they closed plants and farmed out the refining to other nations -- which came back to bite us when OPEC created the Great Gas Crunch.

It was more profitable for Big Oil to pollute lands in other nations than to clean up their act here.

We used to have price wars among gas companies because there were so many little ones. Great for us, but irritating for the major consortiums. Solution: nearly bottom out the price of gas until the little companies started going belly up, buy them out and absorb them.

Back in the 70's, the majority of our interstate transportation ran of the cheapest of all fuels: diesel. So many independent truckers hauled goods that the major trucking companies had to struggle to keep going. Gas crunch hit and suddenly, the cost of the cheapest fuel somehow quadrupled nearly overnight, faster than gas and wiped out 60% of the independent truckers.

That translated into higher hauling costs for companies which provided us with foods and goods. The major trucking companies thrived.

Russia discovered the biggest known oil reserves ever, which once they started them producing, would shake the greed of OPEC to the core. Suddenly crude prices dropped, preventing Russia from getting the major financing needed to develop this oil boom. The the US resumed it's oil production from pre-crash levels and basically had an oil glut, but the pump prices did not fall as much in the US, however, our exports increased.

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the big push for electric cars wobbled. Alcohol fuel -- the savior of the US according to various groups, did nothing but raise food prices because they grabbed up the majority of the corn crop, a primary staple, and car makers claimed their engines could only use a weak mix. (The original diesel engine could run on anything flammable.) They claimed the Teflon coating on the injectors eroded due to exposure to alcohol -- but I remember when fuel injectors were just polished brass.

Clever advertising pointed out the loss in mpg via alcohol fuel -- but neglected to tell you that you might loose 2 mpg but what did it matter if fuel prices went down 50%. When gas was $0.25 a gallon, cars got 8 mpg. They even used carburetors and not fuel injection and no electronic ignition.

Some folks also noticed that during the worst of the Great Gas Crunch, gas guzzling SUVs came out and the push for econo-cars faltered. Then the Hummer appeared.

People aren't as dumb as they used to be, but it's incredibly frustrating when you realize you're being screwed on a global scale and can do absolutely nothing about it. None of your government representatives will lift a finger to stop this garbage. The majority of them are well bought off and like it that way.

Some also noticed that as unemployment soared to levels beyond the Great Depression, thousands of people started loosing their homes due to the major corruption in mortgage companies and the ranks of the homeless swelled to nearly unbelievable levels while those still working lost their health care benefits, had overtime reduced, retirement funds slashed and faced major insurance hikes across all forms of insurance -- that were were developing new billionaires so fast that being a millionaire was equated with the working poor.

Yeah. Such realizations can cause a form of insanity. Especially when you spot predatory businesses popping up by the score and no one seems able to stop them.
 
2015-09-01 02:53:42 AM  
Is this an even-numbered day, or an odd-numbered day?
 
2015-09-01 02:54:26 AM  
I just want to say that I paid $1.72 per gallon today without a coupon/ discount. I'm pretty much telling everyone.
 
2015-09-01 02:54:30 AM  
Nova Scotia?  Dartmouth?  I think I know who's behind it.

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Put out an APB for a guy in a black t-shirt holding a mustard glass.
 
2015-09-01 02:55:25 AM  

buckler: Is this an even-numbered day, or an odd-numbered day?


Depends, is this a "leap year?"
 
2015-09-01 03:04:15 AM  
"It really seems strange we run out of product when there's not even a crisis anywhere, not even a storm. It makes you wonder who's controlling the gas," he said. "It just makes you wonder if the big guys are controlling it."

Nah, don't worry, guy. Everything's totes on the level.
 
2015-09-01 03:18:07 AM  
Ricky's got it covered.

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2015-09-01 04:15:01 AM  
70's fuel crises?  What's that?

/Yes, yes, I remember, I had the lasagna.
 
2015-09-01 05:16:58 AM  
Years ago when the last massive power outage struck northern US and southern MI, was the only time I seen massive hysteria for gas.  I worked in Grand Blanc, which happened to be the more southern point of electricity, and everyone swarmed the town for mostly gas and water.  There were many altercations, and two vehicles were used in one of them.  In a packed gas line, they managed to flip one of the cars in a game of bumper cars.  Crazy thing, if some of them drove further north, there were no lines.  It was one of the few times I was glad to live in Flint.  Took the back roads into and out of work during that.
 
2015-09-01 05:18:12 AM  
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2015-09-01 05:34:20 AM  
It kinda of sucked, but we got around. Everyone knows the excuses we're being fed are horseshiat, but that didn't stop people from filling their giant truck and twenty gas jugs to boot. Also, there were quite a few fist fights Saturday and Sunday, but nothing too major.

/South Shore resident, I can imagine it was worse in other areas.
 
2015-09-01 05:53:14 AM  

Rik01: gnosis301

There are horrible times when I stop to think that maybe people aren't insane because they're sick or injured, but they're called insane because they've thought about things and have come to terrible conclusions.

Ya think?

I have a dim view of people in general, but toss in the rapidly advancing computer technology, the ability to easily communicate from nearly anywhere, the now very rapid fire exchange of ideas and the difficulty in keeping secrets and after to slam the obvious in their faces enough times, people get wise.

In one of my posts many moons ago, I pointed out the advantage of oil companies to create major and minor fuel shortages to keep profits high. I also pointed out the advantage of them doing everything they could to stall the creation of alternative energy sources until they managed to buy heavily into them. I don't suppose you've noticed how the 'free fuel from used cooking oil' guys have vanished, the grease and all is no longer free and companies now squabble to buy up the drums of the gunk and whisk it off to commercial processing plants. The bio-diesel now costs nearly as much as diesel from crude.

Major oil companies responsible for major spills have still not finished their billion dollar clean-ups nor have they made full reparations to the hundreds of thousands of people they affected.

Read about how oil companies have targeted the Amish, drilling on their lands and quietly offering wildly different payments to each land owner, and going back on their word on some. They also have used slant drilling to tap into oil reserves on Amish lands while drilling on nearly land. Since the Amish do not believe in suing, the oil companies are screwing them blind and getting away with it.

Decades ago, they put up refineries all over the place until the Ecology People made a huge fuss because even back then, such plants polluted the areas around them and oil companies did not want to spend the money fixing them. So, Congress slapped the ...


what the hell is an encyclopedia doing in a fark discussion?

sheesh.. go somewhere else eh?
 
2015-09-01 06:19:04 AM  
"The manager of the Irving station in Pictou"
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2015-09-01 06:28:17 AM  

Rik01: gnosis301

There are horrible times when I stop to think that maybe people aren't insane because they're sick or injured, but they're called insane because they've thought about things and have come to terrible conclusions.

Ya think?

I have a dim view of people in general, but toss in the rapidly advancing computer technology, the ability to easily communicate from nearly anywhere, the now very rapid fire exchange of ideas and the difficulty in keeping secrets and after to slam the obvious in their faces enough times, people get wise.

In one of my posts many moons ago, I pointed out the advantage of oil companies to create major and minor fuel shortages to keep profits high. I also pointed out the advantage of them doing everything they could to stall the creation of alternative energy sources until they managed to buy heavily into them. I don't suppose you've noticed how the 'free fuel from used cooking oil' guys have vanished, the grease and all is no longer free and companies now squabble to buy up the drums of the gunk and whisk it off to commercial processing plants. The bio-diesel now costs nearly as much as diesel from crude.

Major oil companies responsible for major spills have still not finished their billion dollar clean-ups nor have they made full reparations to the hundreds of thousands of people they affected.

Read about how oil companies have targeted the Amish, drilling on their lands and quietly offering wildly different payments to each land owner, and going back on their word on some. They also have used slant drilling to tap into oil reserves on Amish lands while drilling on nearly land. Since the Amish do not believe in suing, the oil companies are screwing them blind and getting away with it.

Decades ago, they put up refineries all over the place until the Ecology People made a huge fuss because even back then, such plants polluted the areas around them and oil companies did not want to spend the money fixing them. So, Congress slapped the ...


"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the  inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents."  Lovecraft said that a century ago.  It's was true then, and it's true now.

You can apply what you just did above to pretty much anything and everything.  Immigration, the military-industrial complex, the prison-industrial complex, and the War on Drugs to name four things that are all intimately connected and can all lead you to similar conclusions.

Our entire world is founded on lies.  These lies are propounded by and serve the needs of those in power.  Some of them are much larger than others. The problem lies in having your entire control of the world rests on a highly nested series of tiered lies, or, more specifically on them not being found out by the vast majority of the population who, in bygone times, would drag you into the streets and shoot you in the back of the head, make you dance, swinging from a tree, or any other number of horrible things for inflicting such misery on the world in the name of your own greed.  You have to do whatever you can to stop people from noticing the lies, or, when they have noticed them, from registering that they are lies and merely not 'misrememberings' or 'mistakes', and then you need to make sure that the people who do catch on and try to spread the truth are derided, ridiculed, mocked and laughed at.  Because your entire control is based on, more or less, people letting you control them.

And the thing is, you'll find that the very people who have the most to gain from accepting the truth and discarding those lies are the very people who are least likely to do it.  Because no one likes to accept that they've been played for a fool for their entire life.  No one wants to believe that such a horrible world is possible.  Not that there is a world where children are thrown to wild animals, or where families are butchered in the name of someone's God, or that countless people will die in misery because they couldn't afford the 1000% markup on a drug they need, not even that there is such a world and it exists because of the greed of evil men, but because such a world exists because they themselves are complicit in perpetuating it.

They prefer the comforting lies which in the long term will destroy them, their families, their countries, their races, their peoples, their worlds, to the short term of accepting that they have been played for fools.

Some people suffer from chemical imbalances.  Some people are 'stark raving mad'.  Some people think that self-mutilation is the answer to all of their problems.  And some people, sometimes for just a brief moment, did manage to correlate, if not all, enough of their mind's contents to break them.
 
2015-09-01 06:42:55 AM  

Spankubb: I like to try imagining what long lines at a Canadian gas pump would look like, no honking horns, no angry fistfights, just a bunch of mildly disgruntled people in blue jeans and checkered vests making desultory small talk about the weather and wondering when the gosh darn line is gonna move.

/American
//From Texas
///Cant even imagine how bad this would have been here


This pretty much nails it,  minus the checkered vests.

/they talk about the weather a lot

howdoibegin: It's adorable that the station owner projects that the 'big guys' are trying to drive up the prices in the lucrative market of Nova Scotia. It's a late delivery.


Might be a bit of a run on it since the price fell to under a dollar a liter last week.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/gas-prices-in-nova-scotia- fa ll-below-1-for-1st-time-in-months-1.3206802

And that imperial diverted NS gas shipments elsewhere
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/gasoline-shortage-in-nova- sc otia-blamed-on-loss-of-imperial-refinery-1.3210657

ihateallofyou: I just want to say that I paid $1.72 per gallon today without a coupon/ discount. I'm pretty much telling everyone.


It's 96.6 a liter where I am, 3.66 a gallon.  Converting gas into metric has a lot extra cost involved.

lack of warmth: Years ago when the last massive power outage struck northern US and southern MI, was the only time I seen massive hysteria for gas.  I worked in Grand Blanc, which happened to be the more southern point of electricity, and everyone swarmed the town for mostly gas and water.  There were many altercations, and two vehicles were used in one of them.  In a packed gas line, they managed to flip one of the cars in a game of bumper cars.  Crazy thing, if some of them drove further north, there were no lines.  It was one of the few times I was glad to live in Flint.  Took the back roads into and out of work during that.


One nut stopped ahead of me to turn left into one of my towns only functioning gas stations during that blackout. The problem being that there was already a 20 car line up on the other side of the street to get gas, then moran looks at me when I go by like I'm the retard for honking at him to stop holding up traffic.

/had a full tank of gas from a fill-up the day before
//cruising around town because what else was there to do
 
2015-09-01 07:48:33 AM  
I filled my truck just before 8:00 Saturday morning because I was completely out of gas.  I didn't even know that the issue was going to be province wide because up to that point I had only heard about issues in Halifax.  After getting gas I went for a coffee and the 8:00 news came on CBC and I was pleased I had already filled up.  After I got my coffee and stopped to chat with a friend I headed back home and drove by the gas station on the way, it was slammed busy and I had to take a detour around the lineups.  By noon it was closed.  Panic is a hell of a thing.
 
2015-09-01 08:11:29 AM  

Strongbeerrules: Too be honest, I don't know why it's there.  You could walk across the "province" in half a day.


You could walk across Japan in half a day if you went the right direction, so who needs it right?

I'm guessing you're from Ontario or the west coast.

/lived on both sides of the country and down in the states and still always come home to NS.
 
2015-09-01 08:16:54 AM  
Whatever little insanity happened, it's back to 'normal' around here now. i.e. About $4 a U.S. gallon. Mind you that's Canadian $ so about $3 in 'Murican.
 
2015-09-01 08:19:18 AM  

ihateallofyou: I just want to say that I paid $1.72 per gallon today without a coupon/ discount. I'm pretty much telling everyone.


Where the fark do you buy gas that offers coupons for it? Or was it really a bottle of ranch dressing?
 
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