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2015-08-31 04:22:31 PM  
Maybe he was really hurt he wasn't asked.
 
2015-08-31 04:50:27 PM  

Snarfangel: Maybe he was really hurt he wasn't asked.


I'm sure that's got a lot to do with it.  He wanted to be asked so he could pointedly refuse on religious grounds.

Also, is it the last vestige of denial Christian fundies hold on to when they refer to it as a "lifestyle?"  That's all I ever hear.  "Their lifestyle is against my Christian beliefs."  I've always wanted to ask one of them, "So, what's your position on choosing to live life as a black person?"
 
2015-08-31 04:53:21 PM  
"My right to infringe upon the rights of others is being infringed upon!"
 
2015-08-31 04:57:31 PM  
Well... it got better
 
2015-08-31 04:58:11 PM  

Psychopusher: Snarfangel: Maybe he was really hurt he wasn't asked.

I'm sure that's got a lot to do with it.  He wanted to be asked so he could pointedly refuse on religious grounds.

Also, is it the last vestige of denial Christian fundies hold on to when they refer to it as a "lifestyle?"  That's all I ever hear.  "Their lifestyle is against my Christian beliefs."  I've always wanted to ask one of them, "So, what's your position on choosing to live life as a black person?"


I find his lifestyle goes against my sincerely-held beliefs to not be a sanctimonious asshole.

And lets pretend for a second that being gay is a "lifestyle choice". Who gives a fark? Why does your lifestyle choice to be a bigoted Christian supersede their supposed choice in who they love?

/So f*cking sick of these people
 
2015-08-31 05:00:29 PM  
FTFA: "I'm a Christian so, as a Christian, there are things like homosexuality that I just can't condone. Unfortunately, we live in a culture where if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, the accusation is that you hate the person."

He may have a point. I disagree with the butthurt Christian lifestyle -- the constant misinterpretation of cultural references as attacks against Christianity, the addiction to poutrage, the blatant projection -- and some butthurt Christians could possibly accuse me of hating this particular butthurt Christian.
 
2015-08-31 05:49:39 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: "My right to infringe upon the rights of others is being infringed upon!"


"But just possibly.  We're really not clear on this."
 
2015-08-31 06:09:25 PM  
So he went to the media, proudly claiming that he refused to drive some gay pride group around.
That didn't happen, and the media rightly called him a tool.
And now he's oppressed.

I guess when all you have is a hammer persecution complex...
 
2015-08-31 07:01:10 PM  
So you disagree with something happening at your workplace (that you may or may not be affected by) and immediately run to the media. Well, I don't agree with your chosen lifestyle dickwad.
 
2015-08-31 07:20:00 PM  
Did I miss another appearance of the One Asshole In Canada? Damnit.
 
2015-08-31 07:28:15 PM  
He's hoping he is targeted for being a bigot. He's not going to nail himself to a cross, but he'll give you the hammer and nails.
 
2015-08-31 07:28:34 PM  
1. He is a f*cksack.
2. I agree with him. He was hired to do job x. Job x as described to him did not involve driving a pride van.
3. Why the hell didn't he discuss this with his company? He absolutely has a point.
4: He is a f*cksack.
 
2015-08-31 07:28:51 PM  
Well, sometimes in life, you have to put your foot down and stand up for something that never happened.
 
2015-08-31 07:28:56 PM  
Yeah but how much poof worship is needed, really?

At some point it is just straight people congratulating themselves on not hating gays. And a hefty bit of puerile interest in gay sex.
 
2015-08-31 07:29:24 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: "My right to infringe upon the rights of others is being infringed upon!"


...hypothetically speaking, that is.  It's a mark of true desperation when a person manages to get publicly outraged about something that hasn't happened and isn't likely to happen. What an asshole.
 
2015-08-31 07:30:43 PM  

koder: Did I miss another appearance of the One Asshole In Canada? Damnit.


No... We have a very large number of assholes in Canada.

The whole modest and humble routine just means we try to avoid broadcasting it on TV :P
 
2015-08-31 07:30:48 PM  
Maybe they should have found this driver for the parade:

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2015-08-31 07:31:39 PM  

koder: Did I miss another appearance of the One Asshole In Canada? Damnit.


The guy in the article isn't Prime Minister, so there are at least two.  I guess the show's name will have to change.
 
2015-08-31 07:32:12 PM  

Resident Muslim: Well, sometimes in life, you have to put your foot down and stand up for something that never happened.


I love you.
 
2015-08-31 07:32:17 PM  

koder: Did I miss another appearance of the One Asshole In Canada? Damnit.


Its not like you get much from it, he's purposely denied all access to journalists and only fields pre-planted questions that cherry pick factoids about his 'strong leadership bringing prosperity to (a very limited sub section) of the canadian economy'.  I still can't believe he got away with the bait and switch of sending out taxable baby bonus bribes that amount to roughly half what the old child tax break its replacing had provided, his idiot fanbase just lapped it up like the financially illiterate useful idiots they are.  Oct can't come soon enough.
 
2015-08-31 07:36:02 PM  

Psychopusher: Also, is it the last vestige of denial Christian fundies hold on to when they refer to it as a "lifestyle?"  That's all I ever hear.  "Their lifestyle is against my Christian beliefs."  I've always wanted to ask one of them, "So, what's your position on choosing to live life as a black person?"


I was watching a documentary on Netflix recently, and there was a scene in a black church (I believe) where this woman got up and proudly proclaimed that it's discrimination when you treat a black person differently because they are black, but not when you treat a gay person differently because they chose to live that lifestyle.

I think my eyes are still a little wonky from all the rolling they did that day.
 
2015-08-31 07:36:20 PM  
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
The thing I don't get about the whole Christian coercion routine, is what they choose to focus on within the teachings of Christ.  They don't seem to have much interest in giving away their earthly possessions to go and wash lepers, or to go and feed hungry people.  Is there even anything about gay abortions in the Bible?
 
2015-08-31 07:37:32 PM  
"He says he feels like he's being harassed because of his stance over the Pride Bus"


Wait. I'm not quite clear on something.  Is he saying that he's against the gay, or is "his stance over the Pride bus" a euphemism and he got fired because he is the gay?  I can't keep up anymore.
 
2015-08-31 07:40:29 PM  

Billy Bathsalt: Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
The thing I don't get about the whole Christian coercion routine, is what they choose to focus on within the teachings of Christ.  They don't seem to have much interest in giving away their earthly possessions to go and wash lepers, or to go and feed hungry people.  Is there even anything about gay abortions in the Bible?


Omg gay abortions are my faaaaavorite!
 
2015-08-31 07:40:38 PM  

Raoul Eaton: Sin_City_Superhero: "My right to infringe upon the rights of others is being infringed upon!"

...hypothetically speaking, that is.  It's a mark of true desperation when a person manages to get publicly outraged about something that hasn't happened and isn't likely to happen. What an asshole.


Wait a minute.  He was assigned to drive the bus.  So that happened. His religious beliefs were infinfringed upon by that action of his employer.  The bus was painted in rainbow colors.  That happened.

/what an asshole
 
2015-08-31 07:41:21 PM  
Now we see the violations inherent in the system!
 
2015-08-31 07:42:42 PM  

ski9600: Raoul Eaton: Sin_City_Superhero: "My right to infringe upon the rights of others is being infringed upon!"

...hypothetically speaking, that is.  It's a mark of true desperation when a person manages to get publicly outraged about something that hasn't happened and isn't likely to happen. What an asshole.

Wait a minute.  He was assigned to drive the bus.  So that happened. His religious beliefs were infinfringed upon by that action of his employer.  The bus was painted in rainbow colors.  That happened.

/what an asshole


no he might have been asked, possibly, to drive the bus.  It's one bus, out of hundreds.  Pretty sure he could have asked for a different bus if he was given that one.
 
2015-08-31 07:44:46 PM  

ski9600: Raoul Eaton: Sin_City_Superhero: "My right to infringe upon the rights of others is being infringed upon!"

...hypothetically speaking, that is.  It's a mark of true desperation when a person manages to get publicly outraged about something that hasn't happened and isn't likely to happen. What an asshole.

Wait a minute.  He was assigned to drive the bus.  So that happened. His religious beliefs were infinfringed upon by that action of his employer.  The bus was painted in rainbow colors.  That happened.

/what an asshole


FTFA: Rau said that he would have to respectfully refuse to drive the bus, if he was given the assignment by dispatchers.

'Would have' and 'if' being the important words. Those words mean it's a hypothetical situation. He has not been assigned to drive that bus.
 
2015-08-31 07:45:10 PM  

megarian: 2. I agree with him. He was hired to do job x. Job x as described to him did not involve driving a pride van.


Where did you get that from the article?
 
2015-08-31 07:45:32 PM  
It's Calgary, is anyone surprised by this?
 
2015-08-31 07:46:51 PM  
This needs to be spelled out fundamentally.

This asshole isn't being called out on his beliefs. He's welcome to whatever beliefs he wants. He doesn't want to be homosexual, he doesn't have to be. What he's being called out on is his  actions, in which he has actively tried to discriminate against others, to silence their message, to refuse them service, to employ bigotry destructively in his community. So fark him, and fark everyone like him, whining that somehow society is persecuting them for refusing to let them persecute others. This is not about belief, this is about behavior. If you are going to try to actively discriminate against others for bigoted reasons then to absolute hell with you. Your behavior is bad and you deserve to have society react to you like it should react to anyone behaving badly and destructively. And to whine that you're a victim for being told not to victimize others? That's the cherry on top of the idiot sundae that moves him from being just an asshole to genuine scum.
 
2015-08-31 07:47:02 PM  

Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: It's Calgary, is anyone surprised by this?


1.3 million people and we only have one jackass bus driver who doesn't want to drive the bus?

/meanwhile in Toronto Rob Ford is trying to score a rock to watch the Jays game.
 
2015-08-31 07:47:39 PM  
Maybe they should just give the guy a new bus:

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2015-08-31 07:48:16 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: "He says he feels like he's being harassed because of his stance over the Pride Bus"

Wait. I'm not quite clear on something.  Is he saying that he's against the gay, or is "his stance over the Pride bus" a euphemism and he got fired because he is the gay?  I can't keep up anymore.


He's not gay he just has a wide stance. Clear?
 
2015-08-31 07:48:41 PM  
"He was concerned because he feels the bus is against his beliefs."

The bible tells you not to lay with a man as you would a woman, it doesn't say jack shiat about driving a rainbow themed bus. (This also applies to making wedding cakes for gay couples, administering marriage licence applications for gays or anything else you do in the course of your job.)

"I'm a Christian so, as a Christian, there are things like homosexuality that I just can't condone."

Again, the bible says you can't be gay, it doesn't say you have to condemn those who are, in fact it forbids that kind of behavior. "There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?" James 4:11
 
2015-08-31 07:49:22 PM  
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2015-08-31 07:51:02 PM  

thorpe: megarian: 2. I agree with him. He was hired to do job x. Job x as described to him did not involve driving a pride van.

Where did you get that from the article?


Mods don't have time to read articles.
 
2015-08-31 07:51:10 PM  

twohotpumpsofmanlove: Psychopusher: Also, is it the last vestige of denial Christian fundies hold on to when they refer to it as a "lifestyle?"  That's all I ever hear.  "Their lifestyle is against my Christian beliefs."  I've always wanted to ask one of them, "So, what's your position on choosing to live life as a black person?"

I was watching a documentary on Netflix recently, and there was a scene in a black church (I believe) where this woman got up and proudly proclaimed that it's discrimination when you treat a black person differently because they are black, but not when you treat a gay person differently because they chose to live that lifestyle.

I think my eyes are still a little wonky from all the rolling they did that day.


That line of reasoning is good.  See we all know that being gay isn't a choice so it doesn't apply to that situation, but you what is a choice? Religion.
 
2015-08-31 07:51:42 PM  

Mitch Taylor's Bro: thorpe: megarian: 2. I agree with him. He was hired to do job x. Job x as described to him did not involve driving a pride van.

Where did you get that from the article?

Mods don't have time to read articles.


What about Rockers?
 
2015-08-31 07:54:51 PM  

thorpe: megarian: 2. I agree with him. He was hired to do job x. Job x as described to him did not involve driving a pride van.

Where did you get that from the article?


I'm just thinking if you were hired as a driver, driving a pride van wouldn't be in the description and that may be problematic for f*cksacks. Is doesn't seem within the realm of employment. It would be different if it was "hey I have a job for you tonight" and he took it and it was people from a pride fest. But to go out with the intention of promoting a pride fest is a bit different...even though I very much disagree.

I don't live in Canada though so I don't know the intricacies about the legality of that.
 
2015-08-31 07:55:53 PM  
For real though I wish he just could be fired for sucking as a human.
 
2015-08-31 08:00:24 PM  

megarian: For real though I wish he just could be fired for sucking as a human.


Maybe if he sucked a little more he'd know what it's like to be gay.
 
2015-08-31 08:01:04 PM  
I blame whoever agreed to give this idiot publicity.  It's not even a story about him refusing to drive a rainbow bus.  It's a story about a bus driver who works for a company that has a rainbow bus.  Who hasn't even been asked to drive it.  They need to fire his ass before the probation period ends.  People like this don't deserve to have a job.
 
2015-08-31 08:01:39 PM  

megarian: thorpe: megarian: 2. I agree with him. He was hired to do job x. Job x as described to him did not involve driving a pride van.

Where did you get that from the article?

I'm just thinking if you were hired as a driver, driving a pride van wouldn't be in the description and that may be problematic for f*cksacks. Is doesn't seem within the realm of employment. It would be different if it was "hey I have a job for you tonight" and he took it and it was people from a pride fest. But to go out with the intention of promoting a pride fest is a bit different...even though I very much disagree.

I don't live in Canada though so I don't know the intricacies about the legality of that.


I disagree, he was hired to drive the bus, not to drive the bus only if the decor of the bus meets his approval.  Even if he were asked to drive the bus and declined he would still be in the wrong.  Just like if say a design conscious driver refused to drive the bus because it was plaid colored.  Driving a bus with decor that you personally find distasteful is not grounds for refusal to work.  

If the bus had religious billboards an atheist could not refuse to drive it without repercussions either.

Either way he wasn't assigned to drive it anyway so it's a moot point.
 
2015-08-31 08:03:37 PM  

Egoy3k: If the bus had religious billboards an atheist could not refuse to drive it without repercussions either.

Either way he wasn't assigned to drive it anyway so it's a moot point.


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2015-08-31 08:04:07 PM  
I may disagree with him, but I firmly support this bus driver's God-given right to refuse to drive any bus he hasn't been told to drive.
 
2015-08-31 08:04:30 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: megarian: For real though I wish he just could be fired for sucking as a human.

Maybe if he sucked a little more he'd know what it's like to be gay.


Or awesome.
 
2015-08-31 08:04:35 PM  

Egoy3k: twohotpumpsofmanlove: Psychopusher: Also, is it the last vestige of denial Christian fundies hold on to when they refer to it as a "lifestyle?"  That's all I ever hear.  "Their lifestyle is against my Christian beliefs."  I've always wanted to ask one of them, "So, what's your position on choosing to live life as a black person?"

I was watching a documentary on Netflix recently, and there was a scene in a black church (I believe) where this woman got up and proudly proclaimed that it's discrimination when you treat a black person differently because they are black, but not when you treat a gay person differently because they chose to live that lifestyle.

I think my eyes are still a little wonky from all the rolling they did that day.

That line of reasoning is good.  See we all know that being gay isn't a choice so it doesn't apply to that situation, but you what is a choice? Religion.


I dunno, there's some quaintness to the idea of letting these people refuse to do their jobs or parts of their jobs due to their religious beliefs. Wait until people start converting to Lazitarianism, though. We can't have a government or much of an economy if everybody gets a job and then refuses to work at all due to religious beliefs. You can't fire them because of their religious beliefs, so you just have to pay them. It's hard to fire someone who is, from a legal standpoint, doing absolutely nothing wrong.
 
2015-08-31 08:05:42 PM  

Egoy3k: megarian: thorpe: megarian: 2. I agree with him. He was hired to do job x. Job x as described to him did not involve driving a pride van.

Where did you get that from the article?

I'm just thinking if you were hired as a driver, driving a pride van wouldn't be in the description and that may be problematic for f*cksacks. Is doesn't seem within the realm of employment. It would be different if it was "hey I have a job for you tonight" and he took it and it was people from a pride fest. But to go out with the intention of promoting a pride fest is a bit different...even though I very much disagree.

I don't live in Canada though so I don't know the intricacies about the legality of that.

I disagree, he was hired to drive the bus, not to drive the bus only if the decor of the bus meets his approval.  Even if he were asked to drive the bus and declined he would still be in the wrong.  Just like if say a design conscious driver refused to drive the bus because it was plaid colored.  Driving a bus with decor that you personally find distasteful is not grounds for refusal to work.  

If the bus had religious billboards an atheist could not refuse to drive it without repercussions either.

Either way he wasn't assigned to drive it anyway so it's a moot point.


You know, that's a good point. I'm just saying he has some wiggle room for a) penis and b) saying "hey this is not what I was hired for.

I do think you're right. I didn't look at it that way.
 
2015-08-31 08:08:24 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Mitch Taylor's Bro: thorpe: megarian: 2. I agree with him. He was hired to do job x. Job x as described to him did not involve driving a pride van.

Where did you get that from the article?

Mods don't have time to read articles.

What about Rockers?


1. Well, motorcycles are much faster than scooters, so maybe that would give them a little more time.
2. You magnificent bastard!
 
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