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2015-08-31 09:55:12 AM  
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I guess there are no Underwear Gnomes working at Boeing, then?
 
2015-08-31 10:02:54 AM  
Wouldn't the same weapons that are used against manned aircraft work against UN-manned aircraft?
 
2015-08-31 10:11:49 AM  
Well, this is good news for KAAAAANEEEEEEDAAAAAAAA!!!!
 
2015-08-31 10:13:08 AM  

IgG4: Wouldn't the same weapons that are used against manned aircraft work against UN-manned aircraft?


Dude. Laser cannons.

LASER. CANNONS.
 
2015-08-31 10:15:27 AM  
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/oblig
 
2015-08-31 10:38:43 AM  
Enemy U.A.V. is online!  Enemy U.A.V is online!  Our U.A.V. is online!  Enemy U.A.V is online!  Our U.A.V. is online!  Enemy U.A.V is online!  Our U.A.V. is online!  Enemy U.A.V. is online!
 
2015-08-31 10:40:15 AM  
Shoot ... down ... EVERYTHING!
 
2015-08-31 10:42:53 AM  
Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?
 
2015-08-31 10:47:13 AM  

nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?


Does this happen to you a lot?
 
2015-08-31 10:55:29 AM  
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2015-08-31 11:22:32 AM  
"Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky."

I think so, but how do they get the sharks on land? Narf
 
2015-08-31 11:48:45 AM  
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2015-08-31 11:48:54 AM  

Boeing gets in on both sides of the UAV market, developing a laser cannon to blast drones out of the sky


Milo Minderbinder watches with interest.
 
2015-08-31 11:53:09 AM  
"We'll show those farkers down in the drone-making department."
  - Jealous Dude in Laser-Making Dept.
 
2015-08-31 11:54:23 AM  
Maybe they just want both sides to lose.
 
2015-08-31 11:54:37 AM  
Reminds me a little of Monsanto selling farmers Roundup-resident corn so they'll be able to buy and use more Roundup.

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I keep meaning to ask my father, a very conservative retired Marine colonel, what he thought of old Smedley.
 
2015-08-31 11:57:29 AM  
The drones they would actually want to use this on will generally operate outside of it's useful range. But nevermind that, send in the marketers to the pentagon!
 
2015-08-31 11:58:21 AM  

nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?


As these things have begun to proliferate, various government entities have seen a need for regulation. Laws are being created on the fly (pun intended). Check with your local jurisdictions and the FAA.
 
2015-08-31 11:58:38 AM  

nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?


A friend actually just posted this earlier this morning.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id= 20 1520160SB142

tl;dr - Gov't is pushing for a minimum height of 350 feet
 
2015-08-31 12:00:18 PM  

IgG4: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

Does this happen to you a lot?


I shoot buck shot every now and then, but then I have kidney stones in my prostate.
 
2015-08-31 12:01:52 PM  
This is a perfect use for laser-based weapons.
 
2015-08-31 12:01:59 PM  

IgG4: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

Does this happen to you a lot?


He's asking for 'a friend.'
 
2015-08-31 12:02:22 PM  

nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?


You could probably down one with an airsoft in the propellers.  Maybe even a tee-shirt cannon!  It's a legitimate concern, these could be a severe pestilence if you had a bad neighbor... oh snap now I want to watch Moving again

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I say this in every drone thread, I absolutely love the technology from a domestic standpoint but just like green laser pointers it'll only take a few "look what I can do" aholes to ruin it for everyone.
 
2015-08-31 12:02:27 PM  
Step 3: Mirrorize drones.
Step 4: Random reflective destruction!
 
2015-08-31 12:04:19 PM  
Can you strap it to a shark's head?
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2015-08-31 12:05:55 PM  

nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?


No, you can't shoot down drones.  I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property.  I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.
 
2015-08-31 12:10:10 PM  

TheGogmagog: No, you can't shoot down drones. I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property. I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.


And don't mind spending some time in jail
 
2015-08-31 12:12:36 PM  

TheGogmagog: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

No, you can't shoot down drones.  I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property.  I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.


I think first you should ask, "Is it legal to discharge a weapon here?" generally, unless your life is in danger, the answer is no. You can't just go shooting things in most neighborhoods.

Just as you can't shoot someone for looking in your window, or over your fence, you can't shoot a drone - the legality of their actions aside. Just doesn't justify it.
 
2015-08-31 12:17:18 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: TheGogmagog: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

No, you can't shoot down drones.  I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property.  I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.

I think first you should ask, "Is it legal to discharge a weapon here?" generally, unless your life is in danger, the answer is no. You can't just go shooting things in most neighborhoods.

Just as you can't shoot someone for looking in your window, or over your fence, you can't shoot a drone - the legality of their actions aside. Just doesn't justify it.


Indeed -- so a better solution might be to disassemble a cheap microwave and use the magnetron, coupled with a feed-horn, to just overwhelm the drone's receiver.  It probably wouldn't burst into flames (though that's not impossible if you had enough RF and directed it well-enough), but having a kilowatt of highly-directional radio waves aimed at it from nearby would likely destroy the radio's amplification circuitry.  It would be unable to receive any more controls.  From that point it would crash on its own with no tell-tale gunshot or physical damage.
 
2015-08-31 12:17:58 PM  
The sales strategy is called the Boeing BOGO or Schrödinger's Guess.
 
2015-08-31 12:18:25 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: TheGogmagog: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

No, you can't shoot down drones.  I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property.  I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.

I think first you should ask, "Is it legal to discharge a weapon here?" generally, unless your life is in danger, the answer is no. You can't just go shooting things in most neighborhoods.

Just as you can't shoot someone for looking in your window, or over your fence, you can't shoot a drone - the legality of their actions aside. Just doesn't justify it.


You don't necessarily have to shoot it. A garden hose would take out most drones if the were flying low enough.

The question is, want are the legal consequences of doing so.
 
2015-08-31 12:21:43 PM  
Still too slow for use in the field. Won't protect against loading up a Phantom with a couple pounds of C4, sets it to autopilot into a camp and self detonate
 
2015-08-31 12:22:19 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: TheGogmagog: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

No, you can't shoot down drones.  I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property.  I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.

I think first you should ask, "Is it legal to discharge a weapon here?" generally, unless your life is in danger, the answer is no. You can't just go shooting things in most neighborhoods.

Just as you can't shoot someone for looking in your window, or over your fence, you can't shoot a drone - the legality of their actions aside. Just doesn't justify it.


There are other ways to take down a small hobbyist type drone than a shot gun. In most cases a sling shot would do just fine and not get you hung with a firearms charge.
 
2015-08-31 12:22:31 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: TheGogmagog: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

No, you can't shoot down drones.  I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property.  I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.

I think first you should ask, "Is it legal to discharge a weapon here?" generally, unless your life is in danger, the answer is no. You can't just go shooting things in most neighborhoods.

Just as you can't shoot someone for looking in your window, or over your fence, you can't shoot a drone - the legality of their actions aside. Just doesn't justify it.


so we are about to enter an adult level of the old backseat sibling game of "I'm not touching you!"?

to be fair, if you are on the street looking into my window, then I need to buy some window blinds.  If you walk across my lawn to get a better look into my window, then depending on your castle laws, I can shoot you.

now a drone is technically not touching the ground, but if it is hovering over my property to look into my window, cannot the same logic be applied?
 
2015-08-31 12:23:48 PM  
You can just use a regular laser to blind the camera of any mythical neighborhood spying drone.
 
2015-08-31 12:24:34 PM  
Huh.  You'd think the prison system as a whole would be all about buying these laser cannons.  I've read about drones being used to drop contraband into the yard.
 
2015-08-31 12:24:42 PM  

Hyjamon: now a drone is technically not touching the ground, but if it is hovering over my property to look into my window, cannot the same logic be applied?


These things vary so widely from state to state and town to town, it's impossible to say what you could or could not do
 
2015-08-31 12:29:22 PM  

IgG4: Wouldn't the same weapons that are used against manned aircraft work against UN-manned aircraft?


An unmanned vehicle should be faster and more agile than a manned vehicle because the G-Force limits of the human sphincter can be eliminated on the drawing board instead of on the floorboard.
 
2015-08-31 12:30:08 PM  
seems like a good time to post THE RULES OF ACQUISITION
 
2015-08-31 12:30:37 PM  
This sure simplified things for people who want to bring down aircraft.
 
2015-08-31 12:33:32 PM  

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/oblig


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/it's coherent light
//oh, so it talks?

///Oh and Kent, stop playing with yourself
 
2015-08-31 12:34:15 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Hyjamon: now a drone is technically not touching the ground, but if it is hovering over my property to look into my window, cannot the same logic be applied?

These things vary so widely from state to state and town to town, it's impossible to say what you could are allowed or could not allowed do


I assume most farkers could do a lot, we are wondering which things will land us in jail.
 
2015-08-31 12:34:58 PM  
My drone is made from mirrors.
 
2015-08-31 12:35:03 PM  
Took a page outta the Goldman-Sachs playbook....

1. Sell garbage securities somehow rated AAAA+++
2. Buy insurance to profit when they tank
3. Profit !!
 
2015-08-31 12:39:05 PM  

BigNumber12: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

A friend actually just posted this earlier this morning.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id= 20 1520160SB142

tl;dr - Gov't is pushing for a minimum height of 350 feet


Um, the FAA allows non-commercial radio-controlled-airplane operation from zero to 400' above ground level, and they will not take kindly to any state seeking to control aerial operations.
 
2015-08-31 12:41:50 PM  

jshine: rikkitikkitavi: TheGogmagog: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

No, you can't shoot down drones.  I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property.  I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.

I think first you should ask, "Is it legal to discharge a weapon here?" generally, unless your life is in danger, the answer is no. You can't just go shooting things in most neighborhoods.

Just as you can't shoot someone for looking in your window, or over your fence, you can't shoot a drone - the legality of their actions aside. Just doesn't justify it.

Indeed -- so a better solution might be to disassemble a cheap microwave and use the magnetron, coupled with a feed-horn, to just overwhelm the drone's receiver.  It probably wouldn't burst into flames (though that's not impossible if you had enough RF and directed it well-enough), but having a kilowatt of highly-directional radio waves aimed at it from nearby would likely destroy the radio's amplification circuitry.  It would be unable to receive any more controls.  From that point it would crash on its own with no tell-tale gunshot or physical damage.


Skeet shooting is a lot more fun with shotguns.
 
2015-08-31 12:44:34 PM  

Stone Meadow: BigNumber12: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

A friend actually just posted this earlier this morning.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id= 20 1520160SB142

tl;dr - Gov't is pushing for a minimum height of 350 feet

Um, the FAA allows non-commercial radio-controlled-airplane operation from zero to 400' above ground level, and they will not take kindly to any state seeking to control aerial operations.


Should be an interesting fight to watch, then.
 
2015-08-31 12:49:34 PM  

TheGogmagog: nekom: Not that this is ever going to come up around here (at least I don't think) but what's the legality or lack thereof on destroying a drone trespassing on your property?  Is there a height limit at which it is no longer trespassing but instead legally using the airspace?  I mean I know I can't shoot down a 747 over my land (can't legally, can't physically either), but what about a drone with a camera hovering at 30 feet looking in my window?  Am I ok blasting it with buckshot?

No, you can't shoot down drones.  I've only seen 3 news articles, about "shot drone", two were just outside the shooters propery, one was on his own property.  I think all three had to pay to replace the drone.

So, I guess the answer would be yes, if you are able to pay for the damages.


Drone defense falconry.

/I'm making it a thing. Right here. Right now.
 
2015-08-31 12:50:59 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: I think first you should ask, "Is it legal to discharge a weapon here?" generally, unless your life is in danger, the answer is no. You can't just go shooting things in most neighborhoods.

Just as you can't shoot someone for looking in your window, or over your fence, you can't shoot a drone - the legality of their actions aside. Just doesn't justify it.


A more comparable question would be "can you shoot someone who is looking through your window while spinning multiple high-speed blades?"

UAVs pose more of a danger if they bump into someone than the usual person. There's a reason the FAA says not to fly over crowds.
 
2015-08-31 12:52:18 PM  

itsaidwhat: IgG4: Wouldn't the same weapons that are used against manned aircraft work against UN-manned aircraft?

An unmanned vehicle should be faster and more agile than a manned vehicle because the G-Force limits of the human sphincter can be eliminated on the drawing board instead of on the floorboard.


Should be. Turns out most airframes have comparable limits, though.
 
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