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(ABC)   Nader has nothing better to do while waiting to throw the race to President Bush. So in the meantime he's going to sue Oklahoma   (channeloklahoma.com) divider line 246
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2004-03-22 03:31:02 PM  
"Nader must have 37,027 signatures.."

I'd be shocked if he can find that many literate people in Oklahoma in the first place.

Q: Why doesn't Texas fall in the gulf of mexico?
A: Because Oklahoma sucks!
 
2004-03-22 04:35:56 PM  
Methinks he needs a hobby. Doesn't he have grandchildren he can bug? A garden to take care of? People to run down on the way to a farmers' market?
 
2004-03-22 04:36:12 PM  
Good for him. I'll all for 3rd party candidates, because this 2 party system we have now sucks big donkey balls.
 
2004-03-22 04:36:14 PM  
Won't Nader supporters be pissed when they find out that there is no Constitutional right to vote...
 
2004-03-22 04:36:17 PM  
Flattery will get him nowhere.
 
2004-03-22 04:36:20 PM  
Mizike, i bet you are glad there aren't any literate Oklahomans that would take offense to your post.
 
2004-03-22 04:36:29 PM  
Ahh, poster shouts the classic refrain. Somehow attempting to have a third party candidate = thwarting the Electoral College. I'm still confused by this assertion, but I will happily throw away my vote again this year!
 
rpl
2004-03-22 04:37:29 PM  
Seinfreak

Trust me, when you have 20 different parties most of whom cater to a single agenda, it's even worse.
 
2004-03-22 04:37:30 PM  
Nader is a poo-poo head. Third party candiates make me happy, though. I think OK is the least of his problems at this point.

/abb 2004
 
2004-03-22 04:37:45 PM  
Headline= funny
 
2004-03-22 04:38:23 PM  
Nader didn't "throw" the 2000 election to Bush. Many people who turned out to vote for him would have either stayed at home, or cheerfully voted "none of the above" if it were an option.
 
2004-03-22 04:39:17 PM  
Each State has it's on Rights. Just because every state but them counts Write in does not mean they have to.

Should be fun to watch.
 
2004-03-22 04:39:41 PM  
Pollexabator

Somehow attempting to have a third party candidate = thwarting the Electoral College. I'm still confused by this assertion, but I will happily throw away my vote again this year!

Still can't understand why voting for Nader equals voting for Bush? Think REAL HARD about it and perhaps it will make sense to you.
 
2004-03-22 04:39:45 PM  
Good. I hate that play.
 
2004-03-22 04:40:17 PM  
"Senate President Pro Tempore Cal Hobson, D-Lexington, said Oklahoma's voting systems are more modern than most states."

Oh come on, Oklahoma. Who do you really think you're fooling? More modern than what, Arkansas or Missouri?
 
2004-03-22 04:40:25 PM  
As much as Nader sucks, I wish there were more than 2 parties. Or at least, a different 2 parties.
 
2004-03-22 04:40:38 PM  
OK-LA-HOMA Oklahoma Oklahoma Oklahoma Oklahoma

 
2004-03-22 04:41:43 PM  
Don't rag too much on OK... I can think of a lot worse places to live...

http://www.asu.edu/educ/epsl/EPRU/documents/EPRU-0402-56-RW-press.pdf
 
2004-03-22 04:41:58 PM  
ZeldaX: Nader didn't "throw" the 2000 election to Bush. Many people who turned out to vote for him would have either stayed at home, or cheerfully voted "none of the above" if it were an option.


Nader received 97,488 votes in Florida on 2000.
Gore lost to Bush by 527 votes in Florida in 2000.

Are you suggesting that none of those 97,488 Nader voters would have voted for Gore if Nader had not been on the ballot? Gore only needed 0.5% of the Nader vote to win the Presidency...
 
2004-03-22 04:41:59 PM  
I seriously dislike Nader, but this seems reasonable. He should have tried to team up with a Constitution party candidate or something to bring this suit.
 
2004-03-22 04:42:40 PM  
It's funny because third parties should be outlawed.
 
2004-03-22 04:42:58 PM  
"Senate President Pro Tempore Cal Hobson, D-Lexington, said Oklahoma's voting systems are more modern than most states. Hobson also said that write-in candidates spoil ballots after the primary."

What an asshole!! God forbid someone spoils a ballot for voting for who they want.
 
2004-03-22 04:43:06 PM  
nader is the man....no one else represents the average american better. Kerry and Bush are only worried about keeping their billions and their other rich friends happy. At least Nader does something besides lie and complain all day.
 
2004-03-22 04:43:12 PM  
Love the headline, submitter. I like third party candidates, but as Aaron stated above, Nader is a poo-poo head.

And with that, I'm outta here for the day...yippee
 
2004-03-22 04:43:37 PM  
ZeldaX-

According to polls, had Nader not run, many of the people who voted for him would have voted for Gore. So, in that case, the second part of your assertion is correct, but your former assertion is incorrect.

Ralph Nader is a self-aggrandizing lunatic, and I have lost all of the respect for him I ever might have had.

/bitter former Green
 
2004-03-22 04:44:14 PM  
rabbiwanna

Brand new state!
Brand new state, gonna treat you great!
Gonna give you barley, carrots and pertaters,
Pasture fer the cattle,
Spinach and termayters!
Flowers on the prarie where the June bugs zoom,
Plen'y of air and plen'y of room,
Plen'y of room to swing a rope!
Plen'y of heart and plen'y of hope.
Oklahoma, where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain
And the wavin' wheat can sure smell sweet
When the wind comes right behind the rain.
Oklahoma,
Ev'ry night my honey lamb and I
Sit alone and talk and watch a hawk
Makin' lazy circles in the sky.
We know we belong to the land
And the land we belong to is grand!
And when we say
Yeeow! Ayipioeeay!
We're only sayin'
You're doin' fine,
Oklahoma!
Oklahoma O.K.
Oklahoma, where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain
And the wavin' wheat can sure smell sweet
When the wind comes right behind the rain.
Oklahoma,
Ev'ry night my honey lamb and I
Sit alone and talk and watch a hawk
Makin' lazy circles in the sky.
We know we belong to the land
And the land we belong to is grand!
And when we say
Yeeow! Ayipioeeay!
We're only sayin'
You're doin' fine,
Oklahoma!
Oklahoma O.K.
 
2004-03-22 04:44:21 PM  
This time there is no room to vote who you think is the correct canidate to be president. Bush must go. Vote for Kerry the only guy who has a shot to uproot bush and his gaggle of weeds.
 
2004-03-22 04:44:50 PM  
If people want to vote for Nader, they shouldn't have to think "well, gee, is my vote REALLY going towards Nader?" Of course it is.

What needs to be changed is the voting and Electoral College process. We need to move to a graduated voting system, where people could essentially rank candidates. That way, people could vote for whoever they want without having to second guess. If their candidate loses, their vote goes to their 2nd choice.

It really is a no brainer. Which explains why our legislature hasn't moved towards it.
 
2004-03-22 04:45:02 PM  
The thing about write-in votes I don't understand is if you write in "Sarah Connor" how do they know which one you mean?
 
2004-03-22 04:45:34 PM  
Tough titty, jackass. We live in a federal republic and Oklahoma can make up whatever voting policy they want.
 
2004-03-22 04:46:49 PM  
2004-03-22 04:36:12 PM
Seinfreak

Good for him. I'll all for 3rd party candidates, because this 2 party system we have now sucks big donkey balls.

//

You are free to feel this way, but understand that the idea that having a political stage with only two main parties is ineffectual or stagnant is a complete and total illusion. It is not true at all. The people who propogate this falsehood are malcontents who want to shake up and attempt to destroy people's personal views. They do this because they themselves have nefarious plans and hidden agendas.

Bi-partisan politics really is the way to go. Having one large party would be even better, but people would never go for it. I can just imagine the outraged cries from people who do not understand the merits of such a system.
 
2004-03-22 04:46:54 PM  

You watch; first Nader will sue Oklahoma. Then he'll sue Ohio, then Indiana, THEN WYOMING, THEN ON TO CALIFORNIA, THEN OREGON, THEN FINALLY TO WASHINGTON D.C. !! YEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH !!!



Oh, sorry, wrong candidate.

 
2004-03-22 04:47:30 PM  
propagate*
 
2004-03-22 04:48:08 PM  
Beeferoni,

The socialist candidate received more than 5,000 votes. As did the communist party candidate. More than 10,000 eligible black voters were prohibited from voting, and speaking from a purely logical standpoint the fact that we all knew it was going to be close, and the fact that everyone who voted for Ralph Nader most definitely did NOT vote for Al Gore, I think I can safely say that Nader had nothing to do with it. Because even if it could be blamed on votes for Nader, the blame would go to Nader's supporters and people would hopefully attack their ideals. Because this is America, not some bass ackwards sh*thole where we try to discourage people from RUNNING because we're afraid tens of thousands of Americans may want to VOTE for them.
 
2004-03-22 04:49:23 PM  
If you are a true progressive, and are against hypocrasy, then you HAVE to vote for Nader.

I love it.

/Rove loves it, too.
 
2004-03-22 04:49:37 PM  
*wonders how MyrnaMinkoff would weigh in on this one*...:)
 
2004-03-22 04:49:55 PM  
What?

No "attention whore" photo's for Nader?????
 
2004-03-22 04:50:42 PM  
That is the worst written AP story I have ever read.

Nadar isn't a real presidential candidate. He is a platform candidate. I was once Green and then I woke the fark up. I think Nadar needs to get a life. His ENTIRE point last year was that the Democratic party needed to take him more seriously and look what it did for us. Nadar does not care about this country or its state. All he wants is 15% of the popular vote so that the Green Party gets Federal Funding. Nothing else.
 
2004-03-22 04:51:49 PM  
beeferoni - Are you suggesting that none of those 97,488 Nader voters would have voted for Gore if Nader had not been on the ballot? Gore only needed 0.5% of the Nader vote to win the Presidency...

Pretty much undisputable, I'd say. As is the fact that had the Democrats run a better ticket, maybe they would've won and not biatch about the Naderites at every opportunity.

BushCo may have stolen the election, and Nader may have taken votes away from Gore in some way, but neither would be an issue had the party given the people some better choices. This is what leaning toward the middle gets ya!

Democrats: Stop blaming the Naderites and the Greens and put up a real challenger, or deal with the consequences.

As for Nader - you go, boy. You may be an asshat, but it's nice to have more choices. Vive la difference.
 
2004-03-22 04:51:51 PM  
Dems WISH they'd picked Dean, what with all the wishy washy ness that's accompanying Kerry....

how many songs did the Kerry campaign inspire?
( http://www.deangoesnuts.com )
 
2004-03-22 04:52:19 PM  
Nader is a self-serving ass.

That is all
 
2004-03-22 04:53:27 PM  
Nadar does not care about this country or its state. All he wants is 15% of the popular vote so that the Green Party gets Federal Funding. Nothing else.

SuperSquirrel: For a 3rd party to be taken seriously and actually heard, it NEEDS federal funding. How else can it compete with the powerhouses that are the Republicats?
 
2004-03-22 04:53:46 PM  
he wants is 15% of the popular vote so that the Green Party gets Federal Funding.

and so what's wrong with that? I'm only voting to vote Bush out this time around...I'd like to see a viable Green Party next election time...

No one thinks he's gonna win...they never did. He's just a gadfly for change...
 
2004-03-22 04:54:27 PM  
Poor Nader.
Doesn't he know that America is the greatest country in the world and we have a system in place to prevent people from voting for a third party candidate?
 
2004-03-22 04:54:36 PM  
In the 2000 election, Harry Browne and Pat Buchanan each got thousands of votes in Florida, too. Did Harry Browne hand the election to Bush?
 
2004-03-22 04:55:58 PM  
No one thinks he's gonna win...they never did. He's just a gadfly for change....

That's all well and good, and ordinarily I'd be all for it. However, my overwhelming feeling is that it's far more important to vote Bush out right now than it is to promote a viable Green party.
 
2004-03-22 04:57:00 PM  
To put a bit of truth into ZeldaX's statement. I am going to vote for Nader and if he weren't running then I wouldn't vote at all.
 
2004-03-22 04:57:05 PM  
Sarcasmo

I realize that the Socialists and Communists all got votes in Florida in 2000. But they were never perceived as serious candidates that had a legitimate shot of winning or affecting anything.

I see your point that if only the Communists had voted for Gore, then Bush wouldn't have won. But that wasn't going to happen. Gore isn't a communist, no matter how hard the right might joke that he is.

But what was the Nader campaign? It was the Greens, but it was also openly appealing to disaffected Democrats who were angry over the party's movement to the political center under Clinton/Gore and who wanted to move the party back to the left. They were effectively shut out in the primaries when Bradley soundly lost to Gore, and flocked to Nader as a protest.

Gore needed to win just 528 of these people's votes in Florida. Do you realize how ridiculously small that number is?
 
2004-03-22 04:57:09 PM  
Supersquirrel- nope. Nader is not running as a Green this year. Try again.
 
2004-03-22 04:57:44 PM  
SuperSquirrel - All he wants is 15% of the popular vote so that the Green Party gets Federal Funding. Nothing else.

That might possibly true if he were running w/ the Green Party this year, which he isn't. Even the Greens don't want him anymore.

But what exactly would be wrong with federal funding for the Greens anyway? Why is everyone so afraid of a more level playing field?
 
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