Meh. I prefer to watch animals drunk.

Fitting use of the hero tag.

good on her

I came up with this idea a year ago.

\Get out of my head!

"Hey, I think beer is cool and everyone will think I'm cool too if I use a HERO tag for any story relating to alcohol! Yeah, that's it!"

Oh for the love of...

Maybe the binge drinking and alcohol posionings wouldn't happen if, ya know, THE IDIOTS STOPPED BINGE DRINKING!?!

I'm anxiously awaiting the "American insists we stop using knives, scissors, so fewer people cut themselves"

Yeah, no one ever drinks before their legal, right...

I'd apply for a Bailey's learner's permit. Beer tastes like rancid piss.

Yeah, America's drinking age of 21 is a disgrace, and I say this as an 18 year old American living in Ireland, able to drink. I couldn't imagine being 20 and not being allowed to have a beer. Also, here there is a lot more social drinking which tends to be a bit more responsible than with 21 year old Americans. The novelty wears off before the kids are dangerous to others and I've noticed few people drink specifically to get drunk.

Anyway, it sucks, for a country that is supposed to be the land of the free, drinking age laws reek of repression.

ummmm....teens ALREADY booze....

/try this permit shiat on tweens , if your hell bent on it...

Their legal what?

A) They specifically list one use of this as allowing teens to drink alcohol during meals with their parents. As far as I know, this is already completely legal (at least in Texas). A parent or guardian can give their children alcohol, provided they don't provide it in excess (if the kid gets wasted, then the parents face child endangerment charges).

B) As far as most Farkers are thinking... While I'm not for prohibition, I think we need serious changes to the liquor laws in this country.

When is the last time you listened in on a police scanner? Ninety percent of the calls are involving drunks. Most of the people I've known who have been in automobile accidents were victims of drunk bastards. At least five times a night I hear calls for a drunk driver going the wrong way on the highways--very busy highways. Those calls usually end in a call for a medical examiner--and usually for the victims, as the sorry motherfarkers who are responsible manage to survive.

Most of the family violence calls involve a drunk.

Almost every single store robbery at night is a beer run.

Isn't anyone else fed up with this crap?

If someone tried to make the legal drinking age 21 in Australia, there would be a massive revolt.

redstormpopcorn-

Bailey's KICKS ASS.

/me wonders what the disgrace is?

that's nothing. In Kalifornia we have some crackpot senator trying to get a law passed that gives teenagers fractional votes (a 17 year old gets 1/2 a vote... a 16 year old 1/4th a vote).

Whatever happened to being the joys of being a "minor" with no responsibilities and a fake I.D.?

"When is the last time you listened in on a police scanner? Ninety percent of the calls are involving drunks."

Thank god for the war on drugs.

Eh, I'd apply for it (keep in mind, I'm 15).

There would have to be some sort of test, though... About half of my friends have learner permits, and at least three of them have managed to crash their parent's car into trees, parked cars, or mailboxes.

i htink its pretty crazy that in some states kids can buy weapons before they can buy a cold one.

draskuul pointed out having a drink with parents at meals. an excellent idea as it takes the mystery and taboo from alcohol before kids can go out and get blotto.

it wont solve the problems but it would help.

DJLunchBox
whatever happened to no taxation without representation?

Phil McKraken: Thank god for the war on drugs.

One drunk equals two dead innocents, one junkie/dealer equals ten dead innocents. There just happen to be ten drunks for every junkie/dealer.

I'm all for snuffing out the potheads/crackheads/etc once and for all, but I agree that, at the moment, drunks are a far bigger issue.

[Woman is crusading to allow teenagers to have "learners permit" for beer]

A Darwin Award application is included on the reverse side, as there will be a record number of recipients.

what happens if you fail the permit test? do you have to practice drinking till you pass?

This struck me as a very good idea. People who turn around and say teens drink anyway are completely missing the point. That's like saying teens screw each other anyway so why bother using sex education to reduce STDs/pregnancies. Education and experience working hand in hand are a great way to build responsibility in people, and I can't imagine any way that this 'permit' idea would increase problems.

I personally have my own reasons for hating drunks, and it's really hard not to let that affect my opinion, but be damned if I'm gonna let one asshole in my life tyrannize how I think.

As a college RA.... lowering the drinking age would certainly make my job easier... and certainly help destroy the building I'm in more quickly.... which, considering its age, might be a good thing.

Why did we decide that the drinking age in the U.S. should be 21, yet at 18 you can be drafted into the military and allowed to vote, and at 16 you can operate a motor vehicle without parental supervision? Why are you ready to fight and die for your country at 18, but you can't have a shot of whiskey before you get thrown headlong into battle? Why can you drive a car at 16, but you don't have a right to vote on the lawmakers who legislate the rules of the road?

These rules were implemented in much different times than we live in now. Which of these privileges accurately mark adulthood? No wonder kids are confused -- the rules are inconsistent and contradictory.

They already have one of these. It's called 'cool parents.'


/drunk since 14

Xaero

The government taxes us every which way they can (and to be specific, go travel to a city in any state that isn't your home state, they tack on all sorts of extra special taxes to rent a eeny-weeny car and stay in a crummy hotel). So the "taxation without representation" argument doesn't really hold.

I'm sure you know a couple very mature lookin' 18 year olds (mmmm, barely legal!), but for the most part 18 years olds are a big bundle of nerves that should only be given the alcohol that they have the big balls to carry a fake I.D. for.

I shudder to think what kinds of disasters cops (drunk driving) and parents (daughters knocked up, ooooh... where did that rash come from?) would have to deal with if alcohol was easier to obtain. 21 is the right age to truly be thrown into the big bad world with all rights and privledges.

Do you really want to be kickin' a pint back at the bar after failing an algebra quiz?

I learned to drink beer at high school parties in Montana held on the precipice of a cliff wall ... and I hate heights. Jeez those were crazy. Nothing like carrying kegs down a rope to the Outcropping. Yes, every year it was tradition for someone to fall to their death. One guy actually lived, he bounced and bounced and eventually bounced off of cement and into a swimming pool. He was paralyzed but he lived. Good guitarist too, still plays, went Christian though. Well, can't blame him, SOME god was watching that day. I wasn't there so it wasn't me.

And that's why I'm voting for Bill Brasky, you can too.

Bill Brasky '04, he'll make it happen!

There we go have drunks show up to high school.

Wait a minute, Severna Park girls are snotty and don't like beer, unless they get to drink it in your BMW parked on the bow of your yacht. I remember throwing a party where we had multiple kegs of decent beer and dozens of different types of mixable liquor (all for free), yet this one group of Severna Park Princesses got offended and left because nobody there would leave the party to buy some fruitcake winecooler crap for like 15 of them. It sucked 'cuz they were the best looking ones there. In fact, this happened at every party I've been to in central MD.

But to get back to the topic, what would they do to licenses if this proposal ever got the green light? I mean, minors get the profile shot and 21+ people get the full frontal shot; Does that mean these "learner's permit" people would get the 3/4 perspective, below-the-subject shot, like the runny nosed chick in Blair Witch? Would they get cool shirts to wear on nights out that say "Patience! Student Lush"?

Feh, in Canada it is already legal (for about 30 years) for parents to serve moderate amounts of alcohol in a domicile (legal definition includes interiors of tents or trailers in a campsite, motel rooms, as well as private homes)

And tallguywithglasseson is too right. In Quebec the age where you can buy alcohol is 18 whereas in Ontario it is 19. EVERY March break we have busloads of Ontario students who raise hell on city streets cause of the novelty of being able to drink when it is "taboo" where they live... if it was less taboo, they would soon get bored and settle into some more moderation ( ie getting pissed drunk and having fun but looking like less of an immature ass )

Ummmmmmm

Exactly how many cops would be sitting in your dining room just waiting to arrest that teen mofo with his beer ? Up here in good ole' Canaduh, the law generally turns a blind eye to underage drinkers (unless they way too underage, y'know). The law is really interpreted as a means to keep youngins out of bars where they could bump into an angry biker and have that beer bottle shoved up their ass out their nose. But they still get to party with their friends privately, hell yes!

/misses the tri-weekly binges of his college years

re: America's drinking age of 21 is a disgrace, and I say this as an 18 year old American living in Ireland, able to drink

haha. heard of a fake id einstein?

stay in ireland dumbass.

Chariset, it's called communion.

Commence Religious Right/Bush Asshattery flamewar now.

/Teen drinkin' is very bad, yo I got a fake ID though. . .

Yep, when I hit 21 I slowed way down. Hell, I dont even drink in the bars much anymore. And drinking an entire liter of vodka or whisky in one sitting? Not since I was 19. Am I getting old? Gradually, yes. I still drink now and then, a beer here, a whisky-water there, vodka-sevens once in a while, Captain Morgan and Dr. Pepper when I feel peckish. Buffalo Sweat to impress the locals, and Rocket Fuel to tempt fate.


"If you wanna see drunk and reckless, I will show you drunk and reckless!!"
/me warning several of my friends.

Do they still have 3.2% beer (near-beer) in some states for 18-year olds?

When I lived in Ohio - they had 3.2 beer - but it was still like kissing your sister...

In the Navy - in '83 - 18-year olds could partake at clubs on the base... but that may have changed after I became 21 and didn't care anymore...

Been drinking at meals with my family since I was 12. Yeah it takes away the mystery of alcohol, but you DO get a taste for it young...

The government taxes us every which way they can (and to be specific, go travel to a city in any state that isn't your home state, they tack on all sorts of extra special taxes to rent a eeny-weeny car and stay in a crummy hotel). So the "taxation without representation" argument doesn't really hold.

I'm sure you know a couple very mature lookin' 18 year olds (mmmm, barely legal!), but for the most part 18 years olds are a big bundle of nerves that should only be given the alcohol that they have the big balls to carry a fake I.D. for.

I shudder to think what kinds of disasters cops (drunk driving) and parents (daughters knocked up, ooooh... where did that rash come from?) would have to deal with if alcohol was easier to obtain. 21 is the right age to truly be thrown into the big bad world with all rights and privledges.

Do you really want to be kickin' a pint back at the bar after failing an algebra quiz?


Every other country in the WORLD has a drinking age of 18 or less. Every other country also has far less underage binge drinking.

Put two and two together.

PS: Binge drinking was also more prevalent among adults during prohibition.

PPS: If you still don't get the point, you are a moron.

I was about 7 or 8 when I first got drunk. I was drinking the empties at a beach party, so I'm told. I have no recollection. Still binge drinking 20 years later.

Drinking age is 18 in Singapore. It is however, heavily taxed (like tobacco). That said, having alcohol laws that are stricter than this country probably tells you something.

this is a very good idea and if you think otherwise, well, then you're wrong.