dang dirty pagans

Is he from Turkey?

Where's Cliff Yablonski when you need him?

Does this pub owner now have to keep a sawed off magic wand under his bar now?

Dorks...go play Harry Potter on your own property.

Does he kick out Christians for praying (like anyone would pray in a bar)?

BB

"According to Green, other drinkers accused the pagans of casting spells."

What is this, the friggin' dark ages?

Link title made me think of
"We haven't had that spirit here since 1969"

Emil Muzz surrenders

Syber30:
I've never been annoyed by anyone praying in a pub. However I suspect that a group of goths chanting to the dark lords of the abyss might annoy his regular clientelle, and therefore subject to sanction. In all fairness, it would be fair to selectively enforce the same terms if one were to loudly recite the lords prayer [meaning it, not in an ironic way] in a goth club somewhere.

people against good and niceness?

Andy Andy;

Good one! And DON'T FORGET YOUR GOAT PANTS!

But Suzanne Maxim, the pagans' organizer, said they weren't practicing any magic, black or otherwise, in the bar.

They probably wernt. I thought spellcasting had to be done under special conditions. I dont think "Drunk in a bar" is one of them.

Im not pagan, so Im not sure how this works.

Probably just more paranoid ignorant mofos. Yeesh.

diogenes - nice comment :)

Gah, first you can't smoke in bars, now you can't cast spells in bars.....what's next?

I use my Pagan Wardstaff
Dmg Bonus: 42
Effect: Knockback (Combat)

Sling another Wiccan on the barbie, Bruce!

He could have just hung bars of soap and job applications on the outside of the door to keep them out.

And Jews are good with money.

You know, I don't think this would be as fun for people to joke about if it were Christians holding prayer. Yeah, casting spells seems a little out of left field. Yeah, it seems pretty weird. But there are religions...real and legitimate religions...that have practiced the so-called "Arcane" and have done so for thousands of years. Okay, so some of them are rather fluffy and hard to take serious sometimes.

However, Spellcraft or prayer...does it really make a difference how that person happened to relate to their chosen deities and how they chose to believe they could affect their world?

I would certainly feel very upset if, for example, I was in a bar with my friends and raised my beer to hail my chosen gods (in my case, Odhinn and the like) and promptly was removed for it. It's my choice to honor whatever gods I please, and I think that it's also my choice as to whether I honor them publicly or not. I don't think i have any less right to do so than any other person.

/tired.
//asatruar

MorphOSX

Word.

I mean, everyone love Bacchus, right? :)

I would certainly feel very upset if, for example, I was in a bar with my friends and raised my beer to hail my chosen gods (in my case, Odhinn and the like) and promptly was removed for it. It's my choice to honor whatever gods I please, and I think that it's also my choice as to whether I honor them publicly or not. I don't think i have any less right to do so than any other person.


Oh please. It ain't your property, jack. It's the bartenders. He can do what he wants with it QED. Cope.

lightning bolt!
lightning bolt!
lightning bolt!

/puts on his cloak of dork protection +5

--we saw a girl at the mall last weekend wearing a cloak, she was with her family (dad,mom,brother). she was about 15-17yrs old, not terribly attractive. my wife, who normally holds her tongue about this sorta thing, say loud enough for them to hear "at some time a parent has to step in and fix their childs social problems, or maybe the girl thinks she is invisible"?

to each their own i guess, despite how stupid u look.

More like, People Advocating Good And Niceness.

Dr. Knockboots wrote:
my wife, who normally holds her tongue about this sorta thing, say loud enough for them to hear "at some time a parent has to step in and fix their childs social problems, or maybe the girl thinks she is invisible"?

Her clothes are not like your clothes! That's a feeble reason to make critical remarks about a young teenage girl in front of her parents.

Why not save the tooling for those who are actually doing something to you?

elndilmir,

Goddess forbid - Annoying people in a bar :)

Seriously though, if it was any issue of being obnoxious, that would be one thing. However, it sounds more like they made the other patrons feel uncomfortable
Would he kicked out a gay group because the other patrons complained that they were making 'eyes' at them?

Don't get me started on Goths

Tards, the lot of them.

If this group came in and stayed in the back and actually did order drinks and food, then I don't see a problem with them. However the owner has the right to kick them out anyway. If it was a crowd of people that came in and didn't order anything and chased off existing clientele then it's time for them to go.
Either way the owner can kick them out, and it sounds like he/she would have plenty of backing from the clientele.

Sure Dr. Knockboots,

What terrible parents to let their children dress how they want.

Personally I think people who like to do that lame "talking out loud without the balls/legitimacy to directly address the person they're talking about" have far more annoying social problems then people who wear wierd clothes.

Kick them out? Dammit, why don't they have them burned at the stake like they're supposed to? What's wrong with some people?

elendilmir:

Plenty of Goths are Christian, especially here in Florida. I doubt the Lord's Prayer would get much of a reaction.

Dr. Knockboots - really agreed. If I was the girl's parent I would have referred to your wife immediately and loudly in harsh and likely accurate terms.

Just because you own something does not give you a right to discriminate.

The bartender cannot refuse entrance to group of black people (African-Australians) Public accommodations laws exist and need to be followed

Yup, I see far more goths with crosses than I do with pentagrams.

Kids, you're supposed to play D&D in your dad's basement, not in a bar. Kids these days...

You don't want my money? I'll go elsewhere.

Cyberdependent
Personally I think people who like to do that lame "talking out loud without the balls/legitimacy to directly address the person they're talking about" have far more annoying social problems then people who wear wierd clothes.

not to mention the people who sound like they have a complete biatch for a wife.

Dr. Knockboots

we saw a girl at the mall last weekend wearing a cloak, she was with her family (dad,mom,brother). she was about 15-17yrs old, not terribly attractive. my wife, who normally holds her tongue about this sorta thing, say loud enough for them to hear "at some time a parent has to step in and fix their childs social problems, or maybe the girl thinks she is invisible"?

I'd say your lovely wife has a few social problems of her own to work on. Like her inability to mind her own farking business.

FlightDeck:

Yeah, it is the bartender's property. But at least in the US, I have the right to free speach and freedom of religion. Also, a bar is a public place.

Now, i wouldn't go around yelling "Hail the Gods" or "Hail Odhinn" in a bar...that's reserved for proper blots. (Well, I might, depending on the topic under discussion...)

I think it's kinda stupid in general to go around passing judgement on others because of their chosen religion...no matter how fruity it is...

MorphOSX - or in the words of the great Sam the Eagle (Muppet show), 'I have the utmost respect for other people's crackpot beliefs...'

Pagans? I think they have them confused with Mc. Wiccans.

MorphOSX

Yeah, it is the bartender's property. But at least in the US, I have the right to free speach and freedom of religion. Also, a bar is a public place.

Freedom of speech doesn't extend to shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater, right? Besides, this happened in Australia. They never ratified the Bill of Rights.

herne - yep. I don't discriminate against religions...even if I Feel they're kinda..well...fluffy. My religion, Asatru, is one based on ancestral traditions and beliefs, and we take it very seriously. However to a Jewish person or to a Christian, we might be seen as...crackpot as well. So, i would rather leave everyone to their own.

ProgrammerCat:

Freedom of speech doesn't extend to shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater, right? Besides, this happened in Australia. They never ratified the Bill of Rights.

Well, this is true, and I can't speak for Aus. I can only state my opinion on the inanity of it.

The cauldron is must likely for donations (very common practice at small gatherings)
They might have done a small opening prayer (yes we pray). I highly doubt any work was done there. More likely just getting together for a few beers to talk, socialize and network.

I bet this was a event done by Pagan meet up. It's a event where Pagans get together with like minded people once a month.
http://pagan.meetup.com/

Poorly written article, to few questions asked or answered.

Wytchone