Raicilla - the Embargo, or more accurately boycott as they didn't have the naval capacity to prevent Oil being shipped to the US, was definitely muscle-flexing for the first time by the body but was very temporary and part of a growing up of the organization.

And your point about the Soviets is true, but is exactly why so few countries trust the US now that they are gone.

Let's make some things clear. Those bodyguards did not work for the U.S. Government, their contract was with Aristede, and they reported only to him. Should there be a conflict with Aristede and American forces, the bodyguards would be defending him against his "kidnappers". They aren't all even American, there are some former SAS people over there in the Steele Foundation. I know at least one was working the Hati gig when they started beefing up the security at the presidential mansion. Aristede is pissed because the state department negotiated a deal in which he would be dumped off in South Africa. On that long plane ride from Hati he started having second thoughts, and it only made it worse when somebody decided to leave him in Central Africa instead. He's pissed because somebody didn't come through with the deal, but nobody kidnapped him from his mansion at three in the morning. he wanted out of that situation, and I would too. now he can live in a cush mansion somewhere else.

(Jacksonville Daily News)Bodyguard: Aristide wasn't forced out by the U.S.

thornhill: Why is FARK being so one sided on this issue? All the articles/headlines (I've seen) posted have said that Aristide is lying.

I'm guessing that the headline says that the bodyguard said Aristide is lying because the link goes to a story about a bodyguard who says that Aristide is lying.

/* Just a theory

Again BOVINE FAECES......
Looks like the neocon gaslighting force is out in full.

Aristide is rich????

Jeebus please, somebody provide some links for all of these neocon assertions.

I'm open to reconsider my position however provide something better that he said she said type of arguements.


NOTE:

The WSJ opinion pages are not valid for proving your points...

Albo: "and by the way, if Iraq was all about oil, then why am I paying such high gasoline prices?"

cprice404: because you CAN, you WILL, and you DO.

Of course, this is same theory that predicted the Hunt brothers would dominate the world silver market, and that platinum would get more expensive as catalytic converters were used in more and more cars, and that . . .

"Bush didn't overthrow Haiti's democratically elected goverenment because of oil...

Bush just hates them for their freedom."

It's now official. You are a tool. And not a good tool , like a pnuematic airhammer. You are the 2" long, stubby straight slot screwdriver of Fark. The thing that takes up space in the toolbox, has the appearance of being worthwhile, and yet is completely useless. I suggest you put on your special hat, grab the three things you consider belongings, and run to your tarpaper shack posthaste. This way, the governmentally engineered bigfoots who wear black suits and go around assassinating people at the behest of Charles Nelson Reilly will not find you.

Good riddance to the man.
Oh, and the chimeres who fired on the anti-Aristide marchers the other day just handed Guy Phillipe an excuse to mobilize his men again, and did absolutely nothing to bring back Aristide from the CAR. Nice job; they're just ASKING for a purge of the slums once the internationals leave if the attacks continue.

2004-03-08 09:33:29 AM Hyernel
More realistic headline:::
Bodyguard, who didn't want one of Karl Rove's mercenary assassins to kill his entire family in the middle of the night: Aristide wasn't forced out by the US.

Aristide himself could say "ok, I lied, I wasn't really forced out" and Hyernel still wouldn't believe him.

"If it makes Bush look bad, it must be true!" -Hyernel

Balynar

Made my day. ;-)

VideoVader

Heh, as a general rule, liberals think anyone who disagrees with them is evil, while conservatives think anyone who disagrees with them is stupid. Hyernel is the best of both worlds!

Other way around, dumbass. ;)

Yeah, he wasn't directly forced out by the U.S...unless, of course, you consider fighting an opponent armed with a fresh supply of M-16's, funded by anti-Artistide groups in the U.S., with ties to rightist Duvalier freakjobs who themselves have ties with right-wing political groups in the U.S. as being "forced out by the U.S."..well, then, he was forced out. We let the only democratically elected president in that country get run out by right-wing thugs and we did nothing to help him.

Whatever the controversy about how Aristide was "escorted" out of the country, one simple fact remains:

Aristide didn't resign.

yes he did.

/so there