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(Sydney Morning Herald)   It's time to embrace hemp: It's been used as fibre, food and medicine for at least 6000 years, and now it may save the planet (with great pic)   (smh.com.au) divider line 174
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2004-03-06 11:51:43 AM
Wow, is everyone asleep? Isn't this a controversial topic? Shouldn't the flame war be in full swing already?
 
2004-03-06 11:52:21 AM
cant im baking hash brownies right now
 
2004-03-06 11:53:14 AM
Pot saves the day!
 
2004-03-06 11:55:13 AM
It is ridiculous that this would even be considered a controversial topic. If Hemp was grown in the US, we could end deforestation, and allow hundreds of thousands of farmers to prosper. One acre of Hemp produces 4 times as much paper as an acre of trees, and grows back quickly. It is the strongest natural fibre. Our founding fathers said it was the most important crop in the US. The Betsy Ross flag was made from Hemp.
Fuel made from it burns super clean, and would end our reliance on the middle East for oil.
I could go on and on, but it would be pointless. The timber and oil industries have a stranglehold on our Government, and it would take a revolution to change things.
 
2004-03-06 11:55:27 AM
For the record: no, hemp does not have any THC in it.

But it was banned in the united states because of some stupid rival industry lobbying like 80 years ago or something. I can't remember....too lazy to look it up.
 
2004-03-06 11:55:54 AM
Wow, is everyone asleep? Isn't this a controversial topic? Shouldn't the flame war be in full swing already?

The perverbial bowl of the marijuana argument is cashed and we'll all too relaxed to flame away.
 
2004-03-06 11:56:56 AM
oh, and I'm too lazy to RTA either.
 
2004-03-06 11:57:38 AM
Hemp is one of the mop crops being tested because it has so many commercial uses, needs no herbicides or pesticides and "grows like the clappers".

I had the clappers once. Thank God it didn't grow too quickly, a small dose was bad enough.
 
2004-03-06 11:58:14 AM
I was misguided once and bought some hemp shirts, and they were the worst lasting clothing items I owned.

They shrank worse than cotton, the colors ran worse than cotton, and in general they looked bad after a years' worth of ownership, as opposed to say 5 years for normal flannel / cotton shirts.

So maybe they were made by stoners I dunno, but hemp masquerading as normal clothes just doesn't cut it for me. Burlap would be more attractive.
 
2004-03-06 11:58:28 AM
I embrace hemp on a daily basis.
 
2004-03-06 11:58:49 AM
By: Russell Putnam, Investigative Reporter.
 
2004-03-06 11:59:44 AM
how can something be good if its related to something thats bad? Cmon people, as a society, we are losing our ability to make irrational snap judgements based on close minded assumptions.
 
2004-03-06 12:00:12 PM
It's jus that cops in the us are too supid to tell the difference between pot and hemp. The 33 countries that grow it legaly must just have smarter cops.
 
2004-03-06 12:00:33 PM
This isn't really a controversial subject because there is simply no reason whatsoever to ban industrial hemp. It was just roped in with the marijuana prohibition because the lawmakers were too lazy to differentiate.

Hemp is a phenominally useful plant, all pot-related arguments aside.
 
2004-03-06 12:01:28 PM
Ishkur: For te record hemp has THC in it, and poppy seeds contain opiates.
 
2004-03-06 12:01:34 PM
smoked to much to start flame war %)
 
2004-03-06 12:03:05 PM
growing hemp (or good pot even) makes too much sense for the government to understand.it would also reduce the size of government needed (no more interdiction,enforcement,prosecution,incarceration,or money/property from seizures).they could even tax it and increase revenue.does this call for a "boston pot party"?
 
2004-03-06 12:03:38 PM
 
2004-03-06 12:03:43 PM
"..."They are concerned that the pollen from my low THC crops will contaminate their high THC crops, reducing their virility," Dr Bolton said. .."

But the reverse is true too, it could boost the THC levels in his stock too.
 
OBB
2004-03-06 12:06:52 PM
A friend of a boss I had for one of my summer jobs opened a hemp farm outside of Barrie, Ontario. I got to hear all about the useful things Hemp can be used for, and it's totally true that you can't even get a buzz off it.
 
2004-03-06 12:07:20 PM
Once, people who claimed that their neighbors were witches to steal their land were called rational, upright citizens.

Follow the parallel to the dimwitted fascists who ban marijuana and the right to pursue happiness right along with it.

You don't get to decide what determines someone else's happiness unless you wish to be a master of slaves, in which case, you will master only an eternity of unworthiness.

Don't whip out that worthless 'it's the law' drivel. Once, it was the law that you could exterminate Gypsies, Jews, etc. Would you have upheld that law? If you're a fascist anti-drug collaborator, you might want to couch your answer in qualification.

Smoke it up. Only criminalization leads to drug cartels. Perhaps that's the point.
 
2004-03-06 12:07:31 PM
Don't forget, SuburbanCowboy, that you also used to be able to pay your taxes with it.
 
2004-03-06 12:07:58 PM
Revolution eh, subrbancowboy? Im in
 
2004-03-06 12:09:32 PM
They shrank worse than cotton, the colors ran worse than cotton, and in general they looked bad after a years' worth of ownership, as opposed to say 5 years for normal flannel / cotton shirts.

So maybe they were made by stoners I dunno, but hemp masquerading as normal clothes just doesn't cut it for me. Burlap would be more attractive.

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This drug war is sapping my strength. Must get stoned, to have the strength of ten men.

%*%*% Hemp is wonderful fiber for rope and heavy cordage for say, Ocean Tug Boats. Big 16" diameter shock lines for towing Drilling Rigs.

I would think you'd have to draw the thread pretty thin to make comfortable, lasting clothes out of it. Like about a 160-200 thread count.

50% cotton & 50% nylon is best for shirts. Breathes, keeps wrinkle-free, and lasts longer.
 
2004-03-06 12:10:55 PM
Uh, benjammin most weed plants that are to be smoked are female, only the male plants pollenate. If a drug dealer sees one of his plants from seed is male he pulls it up and gets rid of it. Unless of couse he has the express intention of growing it for seeds.
But most growers Clone a mother female plant so they cant cross pollenate with the hemp, only be effected.
 
2004-03-06 12:11:06 PM
MooseBayou: Burlap IS hemp.
 
2004-03-06 12:14:16 PM
BTW, Nimbin in a area with a lot of cannabis breeding. That's why the local stoners don't want a hemp farm nearby, and probably the reason the farm was put there in the first place.
 
2004-03-06 12:19:36 PM
2004-03-06 12:00:12 PM MikeWeath
It's jus that cops in the us are too supid to tell the difference between pot and hemp. The 33 countries that grow it legaly must just have smarter cops.


Or less authoritarian governments.
 
2004-03-06 12:20:22 PM
2004-03-06 12:11:06 PM MikeWeath


MooseBayou: Burlap IS hemp.

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That was a quote from "2004-03-06 11:58:14 AM Generation_D "


I'm growing 6 proud little plants of some BC Chronic in my laundry shed. Hope they turn out well for end of summer, when it gets real dry here in New Orleans.

I got pretty learned in High School about MJ, et al. Had friends in Austin TX.
 
2004-03-06 12:22:34 PM
Burlap is made from jute, ya smelly hippies.
 
2004-03-06 12:23:39 PM
So, does fark have the influence to start a revolution?
 
2004-03-06 12:25:05 PM
Also, pot makes you so stupid you leave your .45 behind in your hotel room when you check out.
 
2004-03-06 12:25:56 PM
Ah, is that Avril Lavigne on the Fark personals?
 
2004-03-06 12:26:54 PM
2004-03-06 12:03:05 PM Urbanfarmr
...does this call for a "boston pot party"?

Just give a time and place and I'll be there with my warpaint and tomahawk.
 
OBB
2004-03-06 12:29:42 PM
You know, openly admitting the fact that you are growing drugs on an easily accessible Internet forum that IS monitored by the Feds is probably not the best of ideas.
 
2004-03-06 12:31:48 PM
Show me one person who wears hemp clothing by choice that isn't a stoner, and I'll believe that economics is what they really care about.
 
HIV
2004-03-06 12:34:07 PM
They shrank worse than cotton, the colors ran worse than cotton, and in general they looked bad after a years' worth of ownership, as opposed to say 5 years for normal flannel / cotton shirts.

So maybe they were made by stoners I dunno, but hemp masquerading as normal clothes just doesn't cut it for me. Burlap would be more attractive.


If it was 100% hemp, that is understandable. The best shirts are like 45%-55% hemp or something like that I believe. And these are the shirts that are just as good as cotton, but much much cheaper to produce and have just as good long lasting ability as cotton.
 
2004-03-06 12:37:10 PM
...monitored by the Feds is probably not the best of ideas

It is?

Er.

Um.

So. I've changed some of my former opinions... invading Iraq was a necessary step. There were stockpiles of WMD ready to go and they were being freely distributed to terrorists. Bin Laden is not entitled to a trial and should be summarily executed if caught. Dubya... I mean Mr. Bush... is a genius. Wesley Clark would have made a lousy president. I am not now, nor have ever been, in possession of any pornography. The Patriot Act should be used in non-terrorist situations.

All hail Mr. Ashcroft, and I hope his gall-stone problem will be cleared up soon.
 
2004-03-06 12:37:31 PM
OBB is a tool. If the Feds raided every house who had some idiot claiming they were commiting a crime 90% of net users would be arrested.

Oh and there's about 20 million americans illegally downloading copyrighted music right now on Kazaa, DON'T TELL THE FEDS!
 
2004-03-06 12:37:49 PM
I wear hemp by choice, and Im not a stoner. I like the pants, they breath well, are soft, and hang well, not to mention strong.
 
2004-03-06 12:38:10 PM
All hemp arguments aside, doesn't the guy in the weed field look like Conlin Mockery with a ridiculous red wig? I keep expecting to see Ryan Styles rolling a spliff in the foreground (and maybe Clive Anderson beating the snot out of Drew Carey off to one side.)

OH, and the reason Hemp is illegal is because it makes better rope than Nylon, which inconvenienced DuPont enough that he went to his buddy Hearst and they cooked up the story of Mary Juana, the evil Mexican Devil Weed, to discredit all varieties of the plant. Took a couple of years to work, but it did in 1937 (though the federal government continued to use hemp rope through WWII. Poppie Bush's parachute cords were hempen.) To top it off, part of it was a backlash against immigrants and blacks (who preferred more affordable cannibus to cocaine, which was much in vogue at the time), part of it was a backlash against the women who had recently gained the vote and were responsible for the recently repealed Alcohol Prohibition (cannibus is one of the single most effective medications for menstrual cramps), and Cannibus Prohibition put back to work those who lost out when Alcohol Prohibition was repealed.

It's a ridiculous thing, but, in order to repeal this prohibition, we'll need to find an equally prevalent thing to direct those who maintain it against. My suggestion would be fundamentalists of all religions, but there's that whole pesky first ammendment thing. Perhaps campaign finance?
 
2004-03-06 12:40:07 PM
It's not going to save the world.
 
2004-03-06 12:40:27 PM
Hemp was banned in the '30s, coincidentally, at the exact same time that DuPont introduced Nylon. DuPont was, and may still be, an extremely politically active company with lots of cash to throw around in Washington.
 
2004-03-06 12:44:55 PM
Hemp - it's whats for dinner.

And what a shame it'd be if hemp brought about legal pot ...
 
2004-03-06 12:47:53 PM
Fuel to the flame war fire, baby! OW! It's so hot!


Straight Dope's report on hemp as an industrial solution. Slightly better researched than second-generation information from someone who read something in High Times magazine while baked.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_131.html
 
2004-03-06 12:48:36 PM
I love the tinfoil hatters that drag out the old "hemp was banned because of nylon" claptrap.

I'm sure Du Pont was worried they would never crack the ladies hemp stocking market (they used to be called "hemps" instead of "nylons", in case you didn't know) or the military hemp parachute market.

"Burlap is hemp" is a good one, too.

Proof positive that pot makes you stupid.
 
2004-03-06 12:49:22 PM
FREEDOM 35
 
2004-03-06 12:49:24 PM
Not_Todd

I've got hemp shoes and I haven't so much as touched pot.
 
2004-03-06 12:49:54 PM
I'm all for the use of industrial hemp. It's you stupid hippies who smoke pot extoling the virtues of hemp that really cloud the issue. Because when you talk about it it is obvious that you are just about smoking high THC varieties so people automatically couple hemp with pot. If you are so convinced it is a miricle crop that could save th world and all of it's starving children stop smokinf pot and maybe just maybe realy people will take you seriously.

Fark a Duckk
 
2004-03-06 12:50:13 PM
If hemp and pot are such different things, how come the threads are always flooded with stoners?
 
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